Did Anne Boleyn Have Six Fingers?

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Reading the Past

Reading the Past

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@90sHONEY
@90sHONEY 3 жыл бұрын
Anything Anne Boleyn is always welcome
@unknownlyn750
@unknownlyn750 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@susanneduffy8157
@susanneduffy8157 3 жыл бұрын
try the book Anne Boleyn:500 years of lives. EXCELLENT!
@aspenbentley
@aspenbentley 3 жыл бұрын
Girl, I would've been fine with the "nope" ending. You just had a baby!!! Thank you for gracing us with this video/your presence! I hope the baby, you, and the rest of your family are doing well!!
@Gaylafay
@Gaylafay 3 жыл бұрын
There is no way Eustace Chapuys would have passed up the opportunity to blast Ann on this, so...NOPE. LOL
@TeroTheShortOne
@TeroTheShortOne 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely this! Chapuys would not have allowed any imperfection or oddity to pass him by if it meant blackening Anne's name. If she actually had a sixth finger or a 'wen' on her neck, he would basically have plastered everything from London to Antwerp with news of it.
@yvonnekozlowski5848
@yvonnekozlowski5848 3 жыл бұрын
I find Anne Boleyn most fascinating. How she managed to achieve so much in such a short time. I feel everyone always wants to talk about her looks and physical appearance, but she must have been extremely intelligent. She matched wits with the most powerful men in England. Her downfall was Henry was not able to produce a male heir. Most fitting her daughter became one of the most powerful Queen's ever.
@candyclews4047
@candyclews4047 Жыл бұрын
She was flirty, beautiful and savvy but she also had a very powerful family behind her, particularly her father. Without men to propel you, in those days, you wouldn't get past first base.
@jujubees5855
@jujubees5855 7 ай бұрын
Simply by telling a spoiled brat no. That's it. That's why she was discarded. She had nothing but "no" and the 😻 he was denied. The charm died when she became a wife and was pathetic for her shocked Pikachu face that her old position was filled.
@BeantownMrs
@BeantownMrs 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who hears "six fingers" and thinks of the six-fingered man from "The Princess Bride?
@AliceOfSherwood
@AliceOfSherwood 3 жыл бұрын
Well, technically Mary had that mindset towards Anne and would have chased her down with a sword (or flaming torch) if given the chance
@WyattRyeSway
@WyattRyeSway 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that too.
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 3 жыл бұрын
Nope!
@pamelaoliver8442
@pamelaoliver8442 3 жыл бұрын
Not at all alone 😂
@juliaalexander5788
@juliaalexander5788 3 жыл бұрын
..... 😄
@florindalucero3236
@florindalucero3236 3 жыл бұрын
Between your considerations, and those of Lucy Worsely, I appreciate a far more nuanced understanding of this doomed woman. It particularly stood out to me, in a film Dr Worsely did, that choice wasn't really an option for Anne. She was 18 when Henry focused his attentions. He was 40, and the King. I think she was highly intelligent, but young, and survived the best way she could. And that without bearing a son, she simply stood no chance, no matter how beautiful or homely, vivacious or subdued. The man was a sociopath.
@Terri_MacKay
@Terri_MacKay 3 жыл бұрын
I loved Lucy Worsley's series about Henry's wives...but then, I love everything Lucy Worsley does. I hope that a producer sees Dr Kat and gives her a chance to make a history series for television. She should absolutely be on TV!!
@doesthisfacemakemelooklike535
@doesthisfacemakemelooklike535 2 жыл бұрын
sociopath is an understatement! .... his father murdered his wifes brother if you ask me..the stories of what happened to catherine gordon and richard the prince in the tower....just sad! henry 7th was a murderer ...thats where henry learned it! that and human traffickers of their own kin too looks like! Catherine Howard (5th wife of King Henry VIII) is Mary Boleyn's first cousin. Mary Boleyn → Elizabeth Boleyn, Countess of Wiltshire her mother → Edmund Howard her brother → Catherine Howard (5th wife of King Henry VIII) his daughter crazy huh?!!
@LaSirenaSaggia
@LaSirenaSaggia Жыл бұрын
Well said! I’m going to go find the Dr. Worsley film, it sounds wonderful!
@jujubees5855
@jujubees5855 7 ай бұрын
Did she really have to shove a rightful wife and queen off the throne? Nothing excuses that. Could she not have just negotiated a good parting deal an advantageous marriage and wedding present?
@Kamila_Koziol
@Kamila_Koziol 3 жыл бұрын
Could you discuss more about maid of honour or women being in service of queen? You talk about it a lot, but what did that entail? Were they in charge of dressing the queen or entertaining the queen? How were they selected?
@--enyo--
@--enyo-- 3 жыл бұрын
Kamila kozioł I might be getting things mixed up with another channel, but I feel like we’ve had a video on this. 🤔 I tried to see if I could find it, but I can’t remember what the title was. Sorry. I’m probably misremembering.
@alysencameron361
@alysencameron361 3 жыл бұрын
This would be interesting, especially from Anne's perspective in the French court as a Lady in service, then as the Queen in England with Ladies. The comparison of the two courts' duties is intriguing. Was there much of a difference?
@alohaanderson53
@alohaanderson53 3 жыл бұрын
Alysen Cameron - yes-yes! Great ideas . Always intrigued by Anne Boleyn.
@lucyosborne9239
@lucyosborne9239 3 жыл бұрын
All of a Queen's Ladies were expected to be chaste and virtuous, of high noble and royal birth, able to converse in several languages and to dress so as never to outshine or upstage the Queen. Generally they were either recommended to or chosen by the Queen. They were the only people to touch the Queen, except the King, and paid her service like bathing, clothing procuring delicacies when the Queen was not dining "In Estate" and other charges that aren't so agreeable. They were expert in "the womanly arts": embroidery, making undergarments (Catherine of Aragon made all of King Henry's shirts well into his relationship with Anne Boleyn). They were also there to entertain the Queen with music, singing, poetry and games.
@alysencameron361
@alysencameron361 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucyosborne9239 Yes, I have read those aspects. Dr Kat has a knack for exploring the nuances. This is why I am asking her to do a comparison talk.
@pat412pear
@pat412pear 3 жыл бұрын
I had this question on a high school, true/false quiz: Did Anne have six fingers? I answered "true", arguing that in order to have 10 fingers, she must first have six. God, what an a**hole I was/am sometimes.
@sisuguillam5109
@sisuguillam5109 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@saphirus1able
@saphirus1able 3 жыл бұрын
Au contraire - I thought that was a clever answer.
@Karen-pk3uv
@Karen-pk3uv 3 жыл бұрын
If you have another opportunity (or when a kid or younger sibling has the chance), make the argument around 8 fingers. There is nothing like the look on a teacher's face, especially one that is self-righteous and can never be wrong, when they learn that TECHNICALLY we only have 8 fingers because TECHNICALLY thumbs aren't fingers 😜 My parents accidentally raised two petty and smart ass kids who will do research just to prove a point. School wasn't able to hammer this out since my mom ran the special education department for the district and teachers didn't believe her when they were told over and over to treat us normally 😂😂)
@ericbedenbaugh7085
@ericbedenbaugh7085 3 жыл бұрын
I thought there was a great answer. I went to college with a guy who received an A on an essay by answering the question: Explain the significance of the sea in Moby Dick? With the answer: "Where the hell else would you find a whale."
@marykelly1723
@marykelly1723 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! 🤭
@michellemcferrin7759
@michellemcferrin7759 3 жыл бұрын
There were a lot that wanted to believe she bewitched Henry, so rumors of her having a sixth finger would make her a witch in the minds of those that were superstitious.
@mangot589
@mangot589 3 жыл бұрын
I know, right? Well, it didn’t seem to bother HENRY for the seven years he desperately pursued her. And the first couple years they were married. So....
@Saucyakld
@Saucyakld 3 жыл бұрын
I wish, would've been rich now hahaha!
@nobodysbaby5048
@nobodysbaby5048 Жыл бұрын
I've known a kid that actually did have 6 fingers. He had a little thumb on his thumb. His parents had it removed when he was still small. I can see how people back then drew those erroneous conclusions.I believe it is a mutation in the DNA.
@maryellencook9528
@maryellencook9528 3 жыл бұрын
I think that even if Anne Boylen had been a Saint, Henry would have found a way to be rid of her.
@Kaylee8000
@Kaylee8000 3 жыл бұрын
The beginning had me dying 🤣🤣... she said NOPE
@fabulouschild2005
@fabulouschild2005 Жыл бұрын
Video over! 😂
@alysencameron361
@alysencameron361 3 жыл бұрын
I have a nagging thought that Henry would have executed Anne, regardless of her inappropriate comments abouthis death and her subsequent re-marriage. Anne is reported to be far less compliant than Jane Seymour or Catherine of Aragon, and this is what Henry expected. Anne rubbed Henry the wrong way and his ego was way too big for that.
@EH23831
@EH23831 3 жыл бұрын
I agree - he was an immature, spoilt narcissist who got tired of her once he finally got her... also, he did seem to be obsessed with getting a male heir and so it was easier to go elsewhere when he thought Anne wasn’t up to the job.
@mangot589
@mangot589 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, but MAN, what an absolutely idiotic thing to say! 🤦‍♀️
@prince6a
@prince6a 3 жыл бұрын
Catherine of Aragon was compliant? Ah, no. She was more accepting of Henry’s errant ways but she was no doormat thank you
@leonieromanes7265
@leonieromanes7265 3 жыл бұрын
@@prince6a you're correct, Catherine was a strong woman. I'm convinced Henry would of had her killed if she wasn't a royal princess.
@noahnl8790
@noahnl8790 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early Anne Boleyn still had a head.
@Brinta3
@Brinta3 3 жыл бұрын
NOAH NL Too soon.
@justinekessner2645
@justinekessner2645 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Anne had 2 heads????? LOL!!!!!!
@ladyliberty417
@ladyliberty417 3 жыл бұрын
Anne is eternally interesting, to me her courage ( or folly) to take on Henry at this time in history when women had influence but not much power of their own is staggering. The sixth finger story seems an echo of witchcraft, something to negatively explain her allure - the only power women really had then. Just my feeling! Thank you so much Dr. Kat for teaching us as you do. Greatly appreciated ❣️
@ferociousgumby
@ferociousgumby 3 жыл бұрын
4:01 Wyatt's love poem to Anne is often compared to Petrarch's sonnet: A pure white hind appeared to me with two gold horns, on green grass, between two streams, in a laurel’s shade, at sunrise, in the unripe season. Her aspect was so sweet and proud I left all my labour to follow her: as a miser, in search of treasure, makes his toil lose its bitterness in delight. ‘Touch me not,’ in diamonds and topaz, was written round about her lovely neck: ‘it pleased my Lord to set me free.’ The sun had already mounted to mid-day, my eyes were tired with gazing, but not sated, when I fell into water, and she vanished.
@christiancamp6796
@christiancamp6796 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! Thanks for dispelling unjustified rumors about Anne Bolyn. I enjoyed it immensely! I was thinking, what fear there must have been in Henry's court when, even a small slip of the tongue could mean someone's death! One thing that I am absolutely sure of, I feel so very blessed that we no longer live during such times.
@teredalton6188
@teredalton6188 3 жыл бұрын
I love the beginning, That was funny Dr. Kat , I would like to know more about her siblings their ages and where they are buried, I love how u explain history!!!!! You do a great job!
@ShiningFriendship87
@ShiningFriendship87 3 жыл бұрын
Can you discuss Jane Seymour a bit more? Was she really Henry’s favorite queen? Did she really support Catherine of Aragon and love Mary like a daughter?
@cynthiahowe8697
@cynthiahowe8697 3 жыл бұрын
It's been said that the large sleeves of the time were made popular by Ann to hide the 6th finger and that she wore special gloves to hide such. I attend a local renaissance fair and the large sleeves only make the hands more visible in how dainty they can be. As for the gloves, I have no clue.
@dianewalker9154
@dianewalker9154 3 жыл бұрын
Anne went to the chopping block innocent of those charges. Anne was a favorite in the French court and successfully navigated the English court and Henry. I don’t think she would have made a rookie mistake like what is supposed to have occurred with Norris.
@EmoBearRights
@EmoBearRights 3 жыл бұрын
Idk - Anne was smart but she had a temper and it must have been horribly stressful time for her. I also think she had feelings for Norris.
@midnight_rose2337
@midnight_rose2337 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Henry thought Anne cheated on him. She had failed to give birth to a living son, which was one of the most important factors he sought out from her. He felt ‘betrayed’ because of it, so he wanted her gone.
@sharonsmith583
@sharonsmith583 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't get a chance to say before, loved the recent live stream. Also. Love anything about Ann Boleyn
@toddgarrison4229
@toddgarrison4229 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in agreement. The sixth finger thing was probably a fabrication to damage her reputation. There’s still so much controversy and conjecture around Anne’s life, as well as basic truths about her that remain tantalizingly out of reach. For instance, even the year of her birth is unknown, with some thinking it around the turn of the 16th century, and some placing it nearly a decade later. I’d love to see you tackle that particular question in a future segment, Dr. Kat! Hope you, the hubs and baby Gabriel are doing well. Thanks for posting this. As always, it was a thoughtful, interesting piece.
@catherinebuttrick5678
@catherinebuttrick5678 3 жыл бұрын
So very interesting. I am always fascinated by Anne Boleyn.
@ninjagoggles
@ninjagoggles 3 жыл бұрын
That opening 46 seconds made me laugh really hard. Thank you. :)
@andrewogus8049
@andrewogus8049 3 жыл бұрын
As usual Dr. Kat your arguments make excellent sense. The sixth finger is probably a calumny. As for as the treasonous remark goes, we should remember that Anne was only human. It perhaps a slip of the tongue - but an extraordinarily dangerous one.
@rachelwhitaker9900
@rachelwhitaker9900 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, congratulations on that beautiful bundle of joy you recently welcomed into this world! I found your channel just three weeks ago and I worked through all your videos very quickly so I am very happy to see a new video today. 😃 Thank you for teaching me so much British/English history! As an American with a degree in Classics, this is a big hole in my history knowledge.
@judihughes3736
@judihughes3736 3 жыл бұрын
I love your opening to today's video! Thank you for sharing these wonderful videos. I work overnights taking calls, and am able to enjoy these when call volume is low, and my reading list keeps growing!
@mrsapplez2007
@mrsapplez2007 3 жыл бұрын
I work nights in health care and it's the same for me. I can store them up and listen in low. Today it's a rainy day and I can listen on my days off.
@staceyeskelin6859
@staceyeskelin6859 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said here, including Anne having told Norreys he looked "for dead men's shoes." Anne was many things--beautiful, bewitching, witty and graceful, but she was also inordinately vain. At a time when Henry was paying his addresses elsewhere, she, in her mortified vanity, could have easily said this foolish thing. But it wouldn't have mattered. Henry was going to dispose of her regardless for having failed and disappointed him. Here's another supposition. I think he was just TERRIBLE in bed.
@Jaded_Jester
@Jaded_Jester 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Well, thanks for coming out folks! Great vid, Dr. Kat. You look well rested Mama!
@chrisalpha9989
@chrisalpha9989 3 жыл бұрын
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR BOLEYN CONTENT! Keep thriving, queen ❤️
@crystalhastings4455
@crystalhastings4455 3 жыл бұрын
It is always a treat to watch your videos Dr. Kat! Sometimes I wish there was a contemporary, forensic busy done of Anne. I understand there are several wax statues made of her, many a portrait and art, but I really do wish we can take the factual accounts of her looks and have a true representation. Regardless, keep up the awesome work!
@kimberlyelizabeth6052
@kimberlyelizabeth6052 3 жыл бұрын
I am so overjoyed to have found your channel. I am a forever fan. 😘
@MazMedazzaland
@MazMedazzaland 3 жыл бұрын
It is entirely plausible she had such a conversation with Norris but that it was blown out of proportion and context - and yes, if she had been in favour it would have been fine. But guilty verdicts have been woven from less.
@kezzoliver
@kezzoliver 3 жыл бұрын
I feel Anne was innocent of all charges. Henry was getting on by the standards of the day, he'd already gone through around 7 years of waiting to have her, he was desperate for an heir, she was having problem pregnancies like Catherine had and he must have thought, oh no, not again. I believe that all of these stresses plus her behaviour not being to his liking combined with the reports of her suggested wrongdoings came at a time which suited him to remove her so he could move on and try again with his new fancy Jane Seymour.
@janegardener1662
@janegardener1662 3 жыл бұрын
He also didn't want to repeat the gruesome experience he had had with Catherine of Aragon. Having a living, divorced wife who some think is the real queen caused division in the realm. Anne had to be disposed of in a more complete and final manner. Master Cromwell therefore had her accused of quite a few charges, any one of which were sure to get her head cut off.
@jassybanuelos326
@jassybanuelos326 3 жыл бұрын
Media: Anne Boleyn is a home wrecker! Actually History: A smart woman, and loving mother of Elizabeth of England. Henry VIII was nothing, but a bad husband
@EmoBearRights
@EmoBearRights 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm....actuality - Anne was a bright, vivacious woman with a strong will who was discarded and switched up like a kipper when it became convenient to get rid of her and Henry's roving eye moved on but she was also hot headed, ruthless and sometimes cruel - she was horrible to Mary.
@Shane-Flanagan
@Shane-Flanagan 3 жыл бұрын
Love your content Dr Kat!!!!. Keep it coming. You shed light on some little known or underrated historical events/figures as well as giving a fresh take on events/figures that would be considered by some to be 'old hats' such as this six finger story. The way you view events is so interesting. Would love for you to discuss women like Empress Matilda, Eleanor of Aquitaine and Isabella of France, three extraordinary women painted by male figures as she-wolves in history. Also a look at the women of the Wars of the Roses would be great too like Margaret of Anjou, Jacquetta, Elizabeth Woodville, Margaret Beaufort etc. While the men did the physical fighting, it was those women whose scheming altered the course of English history.
@kateh2007
@kateh2007 3 жыл бұрын
The Percy family still live at Alnwick Castle in Northumberland, (the setting for some of Harry Potter.) To get back to 6 fingers, it's not uncommon, one in 500 births involve an extra finger, which these days is easily removed surgically at a few days old. This obviously would not be an option at the time of Ann Boleyn's birth so it would have been visible and obvious. Imho I'm sure that it's propaganda used to blacken her name further. I'm sure that Henry actually wanted to believe that Ann was guilty and I agree absolutely that the conversation most likely did take place with Henry Norris and she behaved recklessly as she became desperate as her marriage failed before her eyes as she could produce no live male heir and Henry's eye was wandering elsewhere. So Yes technically that counts as treason under the said Act. You look really happy and well Dr Kat, hope that Jaime and the scrumptious Gabriel are also in fine form. Love to you all ❤. PS. You are hilarious as the therapist on The Monarchs Anonymous Channel xx. You're a brilliant, witty actor and imho that channel also deserves to grow, it's very dròle and amusing ❤
@heatheralice89
@heatheralice89 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to check it all out😀
@christopherseton-smith7404
@christopherseton-smith7404 3 жыл бұрын
One in 500 births involves an extra finger? Where is the source for this bizarre assertion?
@kateh2007
@kateh2007 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherseton-smith7404 Any Obstetric paper or book. If you don't have access to such research then I'm sure a quick Google search will broaden your knowledge. It's called polydactyly, as you're obviously unaware of the condition. Specifically ulnar polydactyly, as already stated we remove most of the extra digits, preferably at under 3 months of age as then a local anaesthetic can be used with sedation. It's the most common of all congenital limb malformations.
@kyndramb7050
@kyndramb7050 3 жыл бұрын
Growing up in a household that values facts, raised by a nurse, I never understood why having 6 fingers would be a bad thing... if anything, its awesome.
@joycekellner9957
@joycekellner9957 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't live in the 1500s --a superstitious tiem in which little was know of science.
@nobodysbaby5048
@nobodysbaby5048 Жыл бұрын
Well, unsure about the witchcraft thing, but giants had 6 fingers & toes.
@gothmamasylvia462
@gothmamasylvia462 3 жыл бұрын
The lack of any contemporary accounts of a sixth finger, to me says there wasn't a six finger on her hand. It is easy for me to believe in her total innocence. Henry had tired of her, and in his usual way, he had to make her guilty of something to be able to get rid of her. Otherwise the Pope and Catholics might think Henry had regretted his decision to split with the Catholic church. Another thing-- even if he divorced Anne, there would be those who would dispute that any offspring of Jane Seymour were illegitimate, just as Elizabeth was looked on as illegitimate by some. To Henry, Anne had to die. So that Henry could appear right in his own eyes to himself, she had to be guilty, thus the trumped-up charges, and the execution. Poor Anne-- may the earth lie gently on her bones.
@dkalbryte6774
@dkalbryte6774 3 жыл бұрын
I'm binge watching since I have just discovered you! You're awesome since I'm a history freak, especially the Tudor period! I'm an American who is an anglophile at heart- I'm not sure I'd want to live back then no doubt having succumbed to the various illnesses i.e. sweating sickness, smallpox but definitely not syphilis! Most people think that during the 16th century they were prudish but the sexual licention and promiscuity was astounding. I think just because they were covered from the head to toes gives a subliminal idea of purity but that is far from the case. Unfortunately women, for the upper classes and royalty, were pawns for state matters of nations to make pacts; treaties to protect themselves against foreign powers in case of wars etc. It's astonishing how quickly princess were betrothed from one to another to another. I have finished a biography of the Winter Queen and her daughters. I've also just finished a book on Margaret Tudor and her relationship with her sister Mary Brandon and Katharine of Aragon by an author, who shall be unnamed because of her overly fictionalisation of her characters lol. I thoroughly enjoyed your Earl of Rochester video. I've been reading his works even before seeing that video. The very first time I read his works I was floored by the obscene nature of his works. I did see the Johnny Depp movie. I agree with you that Mary, Queen of Scots deserves her own movie. She is my absolute favourite historical personage! Her beauty, her romantic nature, her imprisonment by Elizabeth. Yes, Bess of Hardwick also deserves her own movie. It irks me when I see movies that show Mary and Elizabeth meeting as they never did. I believe Elizabeth was jealous of her beauty. Nothing worse for me than inaccurate historical portrayals as I am sure for you too. I can tell you I've watched an episode of Reign and thought "omg no" lol ...Dr. Kat thanks for your non pareiled knowledge of history! Congratulations on Gabriel too.
@atrinka1
@atrinka1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this super interesting video! You talked about Anne embroidered in public, can you film a video about the ladies of the court crafts? are there any examples of embroidery from that era? I will look for more information, but I would love to hear your comments about it. Thanks again!
@tilseptember
@tilseptember 2 жыл бұрын
I always find it fascinating that Anne was angry because Katherine was still making Henry’s shirts. The queen was making shirts? I’m sure that probably means embroidering them but still… so then I wondered was it her ladies in waiting who embroidered her dresses? Was it just undershirts these women made or are the clothes we see in Kings portraits made by their Queens?
@mcbrineart
@mcbrineart 3 жыл бұрын
Anne was only guilty of imprudence due to a fiery and outspoken nature.
@robinbradach928
@robinbradach928 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Dr Kat - you certainly don't have "post pregnancy brain" like some of us get because you are as sharp and entertaining as ever. I had to laugh out loud when you said "nope" and went to sign off. That was hilarious! I am wondering if high treason worked in reverse - if the Queen was the blood heir to the throne and her husband cheated - would he be condemned to death ? I am inclined to say yes but the reason I am asking is because I have heard that Elizabeth I was afraid to marry because she didn't want her husband to have power over her, which confounds me. I would assume like Princes Albert and Philip, that he would be a consort. I have never understood why Elizabeth I would be concerned over a husband taking power from a reigning Queen or if a female blood heir to the throne actually had less rights and privileges than a male blood heir to the throne? Thank you. Loving your thought provoking videos and I hope you are all doing well!
@tracymeyers616
@tracymeyers616 3 жыл бұрын
Robin Bradach, the problem with your thoughts is that you are thinking with a 21st century mindset and sense of “equal”ness of sexes. In the time and era of Queen Elizabeth I this was not the case. Men “ruled.” Had she married, the Queen would have been, as would have all of her kingdom, been subordinate to and subjects of her husband.
@robinbradach928
@robinbradach928 3 жыл бұрын
@@tracymeyers616 even though she was the blood heir? Wow.... thank you for your reply!
@suemount6042
@suemount6042 3 жыл бұрын
In the words of my mother sod that lol.
@roxiepoe9586
@roxiepoe9586 3 жыл бұрын
A cheating king could not produce a pregnancy that could be mistaken for a legitimate heir. That has always been the main preoccupation of males who seek to control women. "Is it my baby?" is the fear that haunts them in the nightmare of their insecurity.
@helenafarkas4534
@helenafarkas4534 3 жыл бұрын
@@robinbradach928 Elizabeth had first hand knowledge of this in action. first, when her sister Mary I married, her husband Phillip immediately tried to muscle in on English politics despite a concerted effort from the privy council to stop him. as the presumptive heir (until Mary produced a child) Elizabeth had a front row seat, especially when she was summoned to court to witness what was believed to be the delivery of the royal heir (it was a phantom pregnancy, possibly cancer, and phillip washed his hands of his wife afterwards). it also happened to Mary Queen of Scots during her second marriage - with disastrous consequences. two assassinations and one remarriage (possibly by force) later, Mary queen of scots lost her throne and eventually her life as direct consequences of her second marriage.
@dewrock2622
@dewrock2622 3 жыл бұрын
I think the only thing anne was guilty of is being vain and intolerant to Henry's other liaisons. In that time it was very acceptable that the king would have mistresses. In the French court it was even more prominent. And we mustn't forget that during her entire pregnancy Henry couldn't make love to her, so it was accepted that he would look elsewhere to fulfill his needs. Anne couldn't tolerate it and through jealous fits that were very vocal. I think that this behavior , in combination with her first born being a daughter, caused Henry's eyes to open to her nature, and things that once were attractive to him now repulsed him. To make 8t short he fell out of love with her
@missgreeneyes2650
@missgreeneyes2650 2 жыл бұрын
Heny VIII was a complete megolomaniac and he had courtiers around him that fuelled his vanity. I think he completely lost his mind with the fall from the horse but his self centredness proceeded this. How he treated Katharine of Aragon was beyond contempt. Whether Anne Boleyn was overheard to say anything is not admissible without proof. He had to have his way. He died an unhappy man. He had banished his daughters and only had Cramner left of all his friends on his deathbed. So much for this great king.
@janicecain9191
@janicecain9191 3 жыл бұрын
Have you dot any more details on Bessie Blount? How did her relationship develop and last? Thanks
@charmainejay7515
@charmainejay7515 3 жыл бұрын
Kat could you do an item about the 2 prince's in Ludlow Castle Tower. We recently visited and was intrigued by the story ❤️🌸🌼
@Ericah81
@Ericah81 3 жыл бұрын
I could listen to you all day long.. Great entertainment for quarantine so thanks!
@ladyalustriel1431
@ladyalustriel1431 3 жыл бұрын
"Nope!" I laughed out loud at that, priceless!
@THOMistheshit
@THOMistheshit 3 жыл бұрын
This is just what i needed during this rain
@mrsapplez2007
@mrsapplez2007 3 жыл бұрын
Get out my head. Was just thinking the same thing. It's not stopped all day and I can't see it stopping anytime soon so yt history binge with the cat.
@THOMistheshit
@THOMistheshit 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrsapplez2007 good excuse to not go outside though, am i right?
@mrsapplez2007
@mrsapplez2007 3 жыл бұрын
@@THOMistheshit yep..you're right✔ even the cat turned his nose up at outside and used his litter tray😂😂😂 Storm Alex in full flow.
@rdgcmg
@rdgcmg 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, South Florida
@samanthacrawford4451
@samanthacrawford4451 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think that the comment she made about looking for dead men's shoes could be construed as treasonous or murderous, even under the law at its broadest scope. But then again, telling the truth kills more souls than a pretty lie that placates them.
@Erinn1984priscilla
@Erinn1984priscilla 3 жыл бұрын
I love hearing about anything tudor and boleyn related. Thank you for making these videos. Urs are especially informative.
@Chipoo88
@Chipoo88 3 жыл бұрын
I too believe that conversation with Norris might have taken place as various contemporary sources speak of our confidence and assertive attitude
@sunshinewaters5335
@sunshinewaters5335 3 жыл бұрын
I do think that Anne Boleyn is an interesting & tragic figure, but I would like to see you do some videos on Catherine of Aragon. She was treated badly by Henry VII and VIII. Her parents were powerful monarchs themselves, her sister spent most of her life locked away in a convent from what I can remember. Catherine was highly intelligent, very well educated and in some ways, without meaning to I believe, she upstaged her husband. In my opinion, she most certainly didn’t deserve the shafting she got from from Henry VIII. She valiantly did her part in trying to produce an heir and was condemned for not accomplishing it. History most of the time, is not kind to such women. If you have done videos already on her, I apologize, I must have missed her name in the queue.
@kirstena4001
@kirstena4001 3 жыл бұрын
So glad you are back, and what a great topic!!!
@lynnbarnes1184
@lynnbarnes1184 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't care much for Henry VIII he seemed like a petulant little boy to me who threw temper tantrums when it fit him
@bunnylane9085
@bunnylane9085 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Dr. Kat! Always welcome the history lesson
@rach5516
@rach5516 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this channel Kat 💗
@ladonnaadam5014
@ladonnaadam5014 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always fascinated by all things Tudor...it's weird! Thank you so much for this and all of your videos they make my days brighter.
@williethomas5116
@williethomas5116 Жыл бұрын
Dr Kat, I just love it "Nope so thank you for watching our video". Great and epic response from a true lady.
@xbjrrtc
@xbjrrtc 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you, your husband, and your sweet little baby are doing well! 🤗
@JadeAndersonactor
@JadeAndersonactor 3 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video! So well researched as always- thank you!!! But, Dr. Kat, are you planning on making videos about all of Henry VIII's wives? I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on Catherine of Aragon and Jane Seymour as well! What do you think about the speculation that Henry believed he loved Jane more than all the rest? Since she was the only one to give him a son, the only one who died of natural causes (while in the prime of her life and at the peak of Henry's love for her, I'm sure) AND he married three Katherines, two Annes but there was only one Jane. The fact couldn't have been lost on Henry. She must've stood out, right? Would love to hear your thoughts!
@rachelwhitaker9900
@rachelwhitaker9900 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Kat has videos on each wife. Search her video catalogue.
@PomegranateStaindGrn
@PomegranateStaindGrn 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that he chose to be buried next to Jane Seymour.
@JadeAndersonactor
@JadeAndersonactor 3 жыл бұрын
@@rachelwhitaker9900 I have but I don't see any on Catherine of Aragon or Jane Seymour as of now
@johndavies6769
@johndavies6769 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant giving the answer straight away rather than making you sit through a long history lesson before you find out. Watched the rest of the video and found it fascinating Thankyou
@Vonn_Loren
@Vonn_Loren 3 жыл бұрын
I giggled at that fakeout at the start. :)
@annafarmer9334
@annafarmer9334 3 жыл бұрын
I laughed out loud when she said "nope" and then just let it sit there 😂🤣😂
@aagold76
@aagold76 3 жыл бұрын
the difference in feelings/in his reaction to deaths of Anne and Catherine....he was still in love with Catherine, where as he was totally over Anne by the end.
@elizabethraitanen5057
@elizabethraitanen5057 3 жыл бұрын
I have always been curious about this issue! Thanks Dr. Kat! It all makes sense now!
@juliekemp419
@juliekemp419 3 жыл бұрын
A very good and well reasoned 'report'. The rumour mill went into overdrive upon a minor 'malformation'; so redolent in every age. Thank you.
@pamelaoliver8442
@pamelaoliver8442 3 жыл бұрын
Completely off topic but you look amazing ❤ I've never believed she had six fingers and am amazed such a rumor has even gained ground.
@jamiemohan2049
@jamiemohan2049 3 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt she actually had any deformities giving that in superstitious England at the time she would have been seen as an automatic witch.
@wandasimons3305
@wandasimons3305 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love all your videos. Why?? Informative, thought-provoking, entertaining, insightful, concise,....
@pantoponrosegoatoe4129
@pantoponrosegoatoe4129 3 жыл бұрын
Probably my most favorite subject!! Thank you. I always doubted the extra finger. From my readings and understanding this would be a tale to support the rumor of witchcraft or being “bewitching”?
@gailgrace1922
@gailgrace1922 3 жыл бұрын
“Nope, . . . well thank you . . .” I laughed so hard, great into!
@OurBucketListHasHoles
@OurBucketListHasHoles 3 жыл бұрын
Hi DK 🤗 It's so good to see you are doing good. Motherhood can be trying at times lol but always joyous 💜 Great video! I agree, I doubt she had a 6th finger. Thank you and take care 💜
@sharibigay4712
@sharibigay4712 3 жыл бұрын
I always heard that, and in fact was told that's why the long triangler sleeve came into fashion.
@Teresia12
@Teresia12 3 жыл бұрын
Anne Boleyn is always a curiosity. I am related to her Aunt she was named after through my Grandmother's line.
@justanoldcowboy8326
@justanoldcowboy8326 3 жыл бұрын
Mary was my 13th great-grandmother. It's been surprising so far.
@sandrasmith9617
@sandrasmith9617 3 жыл бұрын
My husband's family are Boleyns by name until a few generations ago. We're thinking about doing DNA. He also has Liptons in his family.
@justanoldcowboy8326
@justanoldcowboy8326 3 жыл бұрын
@@sandrasmith9617 I've found Mary's son in my grandmother's tree and her daughter in my grandmother's and my grandfather's tree. My mother was Stuart on one side and Tudor on the other. If she knew, she never told. A princess that sold Avon. :)
@Mck236
@Mck236 3 жыл бұрын
My father had 12 fingers, I was born with 11, and my daughter had 11 at birth. Just a quirky trait I am personally proud of.
@rachelc3744
@rachelc3744 3 жыл бұрын
Can I just say, your content is such high quality and you are so wonderfully well spoken. I hope that your subscriber count soon matches your content. Now to continue shamelessly binging your content!
@stefanwild326
@stefanwild326 3 жыл бұрын
should'nt the question be "did she have 11 fingers?" ... I mean, 6 fingers implies, that she was missing 4 ;)
@gracesiberry1822
@gracesiberry1822 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr Kat. I feel both Boleyn girls were always given a raw deal. Either sinner or saint no in-between. Every political family were trying to get their daughter into Henrys bed. Little was known at this time about fertility and it was always the lady’s fault. If Henry had been impotent, or lacklustre in bed, I could well see Anne would be desperate to get pregnant with a son. That was the reason Katherine was abandoned after all. But not to the point of doing it with her own brother. I agree if she had been so indelicate to try enticing other men to bed, there would be more evidence from her ladies in waiting. Notes and gossip. Yes she was truly naive to say and “playing at love and intrigue” with Henry Norris. Was it a mis-spoke or am I “to important to be accused”. Anne in my mind was clever and knew she had haters at court. I think she overstepped and doomed herself. She did not have a card to play, that is I carry your child. I think Henry was bored as Anne had not delivered a boy in the 2 years since he had divorced Katherine.
@NJ-Cathie
@NJ-Cathie 3 жыл бұрын
“Nope.....” Best line ever!
@melaniesomes4235
@melaniesomes4235 3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome one!!♥️
@leighsmith5930
@leighsmith5930 3 жыл бұрын
Again you are such a terrific history teacher and speaker. I learn so much. What a sad time to be a woman. All his Queens are so interesting.
@bushwickbaby
@bushwickbaby 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA!!! Dr. Kat, what a hysterical opening. Love you history lessons. ❤️
@andreagriffiths3512
@andreagriffiths3512 3 жыл бұрын
You get a thumbs up right from the end...I mean start! Very amusing!
@Amc933
@Amc933 3 жыл бұрын
This was excellent and very informative. I like how you inform us all of the (mostly) false claims made against powerful women in those days; ego issues for sure. Sadly, such nonsense continues to today. Thank you for all of this.
@aimeeinkling
@aimeeinkling 2 жыл бұрын
The reason I think we have never actually found a painting of Anne is that not one of the candidates has a "swarthy complexion" or "wide mouth." Yes, I know that artists painted their subjects in a flattering way, but you can kind of tell when they have. All the potential Anne paintings look pale and have tiny mouths.
@anne-marie2972
@anne-marie2972 Жыл бұрын
Thinking exactly same 🤔
@junedeck1599
@junedeck1599 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that she suffered miscarriages after the successful live birth of Elizabeth is kind of exonerating if you consider that Kell's may have been the reason for so many miscarriages...both with Catherine of Aragon and of course Anne. Loved your take...and some things I never heard before!! Thanks.
@nobodysbaby5048
@nobodysbaby5048 Жыл бұрын
Almost certainly an RH factor issue. My mom couldn't birth live boys.
@pikachuisshook5535
@pikachuisshook5535 Жыл бұрын
I love how your videos are always both informative and entertaining
@mackss9468
@mackss9468 3 жыл бұрын
Well done! Could you discuss Anne’s treatment of Catherine of Aragon and princess Mary? Is it true that she tried to poison them? Is it true that she told Mary’s caregivers to beat her?
@od1452
@od1452 2 жыл бұрын
yes I have heard/read that. But you're correct that few people remarked on what would be such an obvious item. I wondered if the rumor could have come from the French court wearing gloves? I don't know if it was a custom then, but I know some royalty required retainers to do that in their presence although the examples I know were later in history.
@nothing2seehere34
@nothing2seehere34 3 жыл бұрын
Nope.. okay, thanks for popping by HA HA! I have wanted to tell you that I love your channel song it make me smile every time I hear it. Keep up the good work.
@marissawhite8140
@marissawhite8140 2 жыл бұрын
As far as the possible flirtatious insinuation of the Kings death I agree that this is the only possible treason Anne could have engaged in. In my opinion the imagining of the kings death should not be considered treason as it is a reasonable concern and thought for any human, but alas that was the law of the day. Great video!
@vjgonschior8534
@vjgonschior8534 3 жыл бұрын
Actually laughed out loud! Great start to this video.
@Marley-Kabin
@Marley-Kabin 3 жыл бұрын
YES ANNE BOLEYN CONTENT
@mangot589
@mangot589 3 жыл бұрын
“Nope”. Thanks for watching”😂👍
@MeghanBelhumeur
@MeghanBelhumeur 3 жыл бұрын
“NOPE. Well, I hope you enjoyed this video” lol! 🤣Gave me a good giggle!
@cococreates26
@cococreates26 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but the start of your video was epic 😂 I can imagine you doing videos like this for those really silly questions (like 'Was Queen Victoria a werewolf?') Hope the three of you are well, big hugs from Zoe xx
@qiuwbr091
@qiuwbr091 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas Wyat (sp) was obviously no knave. But, I wonder if the sixth finger might have meant that she was always “reaching out” with more than what she was born with? I don’t know. A sort of allegory that wouldn’t offend her nature. (Or really would.). There’s a saying in the United States; That people come by things with a “five finger discount” meaning that the object was stolen. In fact there is a book called “Five Fingers” or something to that effect. I don’t think that “five fingered discount is just an American saying as we came to New York from England, and Holland via England mostly.
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