Straight People DON'T Understand I SAW THE TV GLOW | READUS 101

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La'Ron Readus

La'Ron Readus

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@Readus101
@Readus101 2 ай бұрын
There is still time. ❤
@armouros
@armouros 2 ай бұрын
nothing against you la'ron grate vedeo btw. but "There is still time". to do what ? jump in a hole ? in the movie that is how you sove the problem. for us the people watching the movie that is definitely NOT how you solve the problem. please if you are thinking about it....... please don't!.. you can be trans in this world please.!
@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou
@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou 2 ай бұрын
@@armouros I really don't mean this in a rude way but if you are being serious right now you really need to work on your media literacy. Transition. It's a metaphor for transition from the perspective of someone terrified by it.
@armouros
@armouros 2 ай бұрын
​@@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou i know im not very good at spelling i get told by people my hole life. have gone to special teachers the way my brain remembers words does not match up to how they are spelled. fernetick spelling its something i have to work on every day. i do spell check as good as i can to make the words like they are supposed to be. and also ask the computer to read it back to me to double check it sound as close to right as i can get it because when people find out im not good at spelling people treat me differently and its not a fun feeling. thanks for saying media literacy and not just your spelling sucks.
@zizzalot
@zizzalot Ай бұрын
@@armouros I think the whole thing of burying themselves alive was more of a metaphor for the fear and isolation that comes before finally accepting your queerness (at least that’s what I thought). Owen knew it would be terrifying so he backed off and hid himself away whereas Maddy was willing to go through the scary process in order to truly find herself. A lot of the film is very metaphorical…it’s not just telling you to bury yourself😭😭
@armouros
@armouros Ай бұрын
​@@zizzalot hello. its telling you if you do bury yourself😭😭 you get to go to a world where you are not trans. and thats so sad. people should accept their trans-nes. trans is beautiful.
@innegativeion
@innegativeion 2 ай бұрын
Hi trans woman here. When I watched this film I was a good 2+ years into transition, and found myself enraptured but shocked by how i had no tears during its events. It made me anxious, it made me horrified, it sent chills up my spine, it even made me very sad at times - like looking into a broken mirror, the film reflected parts of myself and my past I had hoped would stay buried. I felt so seen and captured by the film to the point of sheer transfixed terror. Like it wasn't safe to cry. When at last the credits rolled, and I started to reckon with what I had seen, I was overwhelmed with a surging sense of relief and gratitude. I had watched the film with my friends, and I couldn't stop sobbing to them how much I valued their support and influence on my life - that's when I found the tears wouldn't stop. They were the tears of someone who had survived the legitimate fear of encroaching literal death. I didn't need this film to tell me I was transgender, I already knew, but I do think I Saw The TV Glow has permanently made me a more grateful person.
@personperson5521
@personperson5521 2 ай бұрын
I had a very similar experience. My partner and I, 1 year and 2 years past transition respectively, was very focused and personal i was incredibly uncomfortable. As you said, i was looking into a mirror, watching myself do everything i can to dodge who i was. By the end i was devastated. My partner and i just cried into eachothers arms for awhile, and to this day i cant describe this film without being pulled back and watching totally spies at my friends house so my dad wouldn't see me. I dont think ill ever watch this masterpiece again, but it has a place in my very soul
@Xanderj89
@Xanderj89 Ай бұрын
@@personperson5521idk if I’ll be able to get myself to watch this, but I just had a flood of memories come back reading this of sneaking mary kate and ashely movies and I need a moment
@Caparo479
@Caparo479 Ай бұрын
Same I was about 4 years in when i saw it, and although it made me just sort of disassociate for a good couple hours, i didnt cry I feel like if i had seen it either just before or just after my egg cracked, I would have bawled my eyes out
@XeansIcemane
@XeansIcemane Ай бұрын
Nonbinary person six months into transition myself - and, yeah, that. I felt so much gratitude for the people who told me there was still time and that I owed it to myself to do the scary thing and take the leap.
@dianaaa2524
@dianaaa2524 Ай бұрын
@@XeansIcemane God loves you
@ThePonderer
@ThePonderer 2 ай бұрын
The real dread of watching this movie was the understanding of how deeply it reflected a closeted person’s experience. As an outsider looking it, it gave me soul pains like movies rarely do.
@C0mfyest
@C0mfyest Ай бұрын
This. This exactly. I'm still on my way to being fully out and I had to pause the movie a few times because of the sheer power of the emotions welling up in my throat... I've recommended it to everyone I know, queer or otherwise, in large part because of how it reflects those emotions in such a clear way! Especially the wheezing at the end... it got me wheezing and feeling my throat closing up (doesn't help I use the same kind of inhaler for my allergic asthma)... and when I heard them appologize at the end I felt actually choked...
@SailorSlay
@SailorSlay 26 күн бұрын
That final scene where he screamed I’m dying and no one cared will live forever in my soul.
@macrograms
@macrograms 3 күн бұрын
same. in a world where too many find emoting fear and hate easier, more like this. just another one, wishing for more egalitarianism and equality -- is live worth living without?
@AngeltheAnswer
@AngeltheAnswer 2 ай бұрын
As a queer person who also probably has undiagnosed Autism, the main characters struggles hit so hard. I’m glad I’m living in my truth when it comes to identity but I’m still struggling to find constant motivation to make moves I’d like to in my life; along with using media to cope with that feeling. The ending terifies me but it’s morbidly motivating.
@sagebrown7590
@sagebrown7590 2 ай бұрын
I'm queer and autistic too. For most of my life heard the advice to "be myself", so much that it lost all meaning. Sure, it's easy for those people to say. They were born interesting and charismatic. Whenever I tried to act naturally, I would be ridiculed. After a while I learned that "myself" was bad, the advice didn't apply to me, so my only option was to assimilate. I hated and loved this movie. It made me deeply uncomfortable. It reminded me of what's actually at stake when I deny myself myself. I thought unmasking was terrible, would ruin me socially, essentially destroying my life. But I was wrong. The mask IS horror in its own right. Deep down I knew it because I lived it everyday. I was haunted by the idea that I might look back in a few decades, full of regret trying to pretend I was what other people wanted me to be. It made me recognized I'd rather be hated by everyone around me doing something I loved rather than loved by everyone doing things I hated. Sorry this is so long, it's been rattling around in my brain TLDR. Be yourself
@cedaremberr
@cedaremberr Ай бұрын
I definitely saw Owen/Tara as autistic. Not just the way the character was acted, but the ways that they were teased by their co-workers felt so familiar
@Burittosyumyum
@Burittosyumyum 2 ай бұрын
Hardest hitting scene for me was when Owen walked into his co-worker getting a BJ and later on his co-workers was asking Owen if she wants to hook up with the woman. The way Owen clearly didn't want to have the conversation but his co-workers insist on having it made me think of all the times I had to deal with 'locker room' talk and pretend to be hyper sexual and homophobic. Seriously wish I had the strength back them to tell them all to STFU.
@averyeml
@averyeml Ай бұрын
That moment and the “I think I like TV shows” one were two that are moments I’ve had in real life as an asexual. I went in knowing this movie would be very trans but I didn’t expect to catch some relatability strays 😅
@SailorSlay
@SailorSlay 26 күн бұрын
That made me so uncomfortable. I wanted to jump through the screen and slap them.
@gunweizard6125
@gunweizard6125 14 күн бұрын
@@averyeml “catch some relatability strays” thats actually so damn funny 😭
@dallydaydream
@dallydaydream 2 ай бұрын
I'd been meaning to watch I Saw the TV Glow for ages and this video prompted me to finally do it. I wholly bought into the idea not that Owen and Maddy were being taken over by Isabel and Tara, but that they *were* Isabel and Tara, trapped in the Midnight Realm. The idea that Owen was living an entire life over the course of however many minutes it would take Isabel to suffocate really turned the fact that Owen had asthma into some absolutely brutal foreshadowing. I realise it's all allegory but it still really got to me. Fear and the denial of self, presented as slow but inexorable suffocation. I took solace in the message that "there is still time".
@merandasomnolentgamer8323
@merandasomnolentgamer8323 2 ай бұрын
Same.
@nicolesi2201
@nicolesi2201 2 ай бұрын
Trans woman here, I didn't come out until the age of 42. I deeply relate to Owen's scream at the end of the movie.
@JToddles
@JToddles 2 ай бұрын
Saw the movie with my straight friend and we were both left so unsettled and sad. I was obsessed with it for weeks after. The vibe just weighs so heavy but in such a successful way
@syonnelaw9264
@syonnelaw9264 2 ай бұрын
thank you so much for this video!! as a trans lesbian, this movie has meant so much to me. it's so disheartening to see cishets completely misunderstand the allegory :( your videos mean so much to me and ive been waiting for you to talk abt this movie!!! thank you so much again
@isaacsuero9945
@isaacsuero9945 2 ай бұрын
So happy for this review. As a straight guy i could immediately tell the story was about queerness in some way but my girlfriend insisted I was reading too much into it lol.
@KURFMEGA
@KURFMEGA 2 ай бұрын
Watched this movie last night with my mom and stepdad. Once it was done my stepdad just said "Well that was weird" then he got up and when me and my mom spoke like two sentences analyzing it he just said "It's not that deep" and walked out of the room. I pray he learns to read subtext one day
@elizabethmanalo571
@elizabethmanalo571 Ай бұрын
Omg what an annoying response he needs to do better I'm sorry jfc 😢
@Mrsierramist1
@Mrsierramist1 2 ай бұрын
As a straight, the trans allegory was obvious to me. I think people who miss it are either doing so on purpose or are just really that ignorant.
@BillyBoPretty
@BillyBoPretty 2 ай бұрын
As a trans man, this movie shook me to my core. I saw it in the theatre and the entire last 30-40 min, my arms were locked around my body (think the self hug you do when you're in the midst of a panic attack iykyk 🫠) holding back sobs that could have only originated from the depths of a person's body. I've NEVER seen a movie that immediately spoke to me so clearly, everything about it seemed to be specifically for me. I couldn't help but wonder on multiple occasions , "Is this how cishet people feel watching movies about them?" But no, I believe they take it for granted. What I was experiencing was validity. We exist. We have always existed. We will continue to exist. Much love to my trans and queer siblings. There is still time.
@gunweizard6125
@gunweizard6125 14 күн бұрын
Oh no this hits so damn hard. As a trans guy as well, i seriously neglect how important it is to have representations of my experience because i never ever see it. I will never take representation for granted because those who get it in everything they watch are so used to it they dont care anymore
@Byryles
@Byryles Ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR USING SHE/HER PRONOUNS FOR OWEN everyone I’ve seen talk about this movie always either just says he or they and that’s irked me to no end Edit: As for what I thought of the movie. It left me gutted and hollow and empty. As Owen said, “It feels like someone took a shovel and dug out all my insides.” In every way, I’m Owen at this point in time. No one in my family knows I’m trans, they’re all catholic, and if I were to come out it would ruin relationships. Parts of my family would never talk to me again, or they’d keep me from talking to my little cousins whom I hold so close. They’re like my siblings. I’m keeping myself in the closet for other people’s peace of mind. Avoiding conflict. This movie made me feel seen in a way I’ve never once felt in my 21 years of living. It left me disturbed, but comforted. It was like I was shaken violently and told to live as myself. I’m scared, I’m hopeful, I want to pull out my hair and cry, I want to be myself. The time may not be right, but there is still time.
@merandasomnolentgamer8323
@merandasomnolentgamer8323 2 ай бұрын
I'm a bi cis woman and I watched I Saw the TV Glow with my straight mother. It was an interesting experience because the entire time, I was thinking about what the film looked like through her eyes. We didn't have a deep discussion about it, I'm sure she missed a lot of the nuance, but she did ask me if Owen was a trans woman so she clearly understood the broad strokes. I enjoyed it a lot and I'm glad my mom watched it, I feel like she walked away from it with more empathy for trans people.
@MissXHiem
@MissXHiem 2 ай бұрын
i'm a transman who's out to most of my friends and family but i struggle with being bisexual and how my relation to other queer people manifests itself into me, this movie, while terrifying was kind of the kick in the seat to realize how much i related to both the characters, feeling simultaneously trapped inside and outside the closet the back and forth between a loving family environment and then a suddenly hostile one, the isolation turned into intentional isolation, and the final scream of i'm literally dying there must always be time bc there is still time
@berryNtoast32
@berryNtoast32 2 ай бұрын
Did I misunderstand then ending? It felt like such a heartbreaking depiction of a trans person essentially dying in the closet. I'm definitely watching it again! The ending felt very mournful and I wanted Owen to experience freedom. 😔
@innegativeion
@innegativeion 2 ай бұрын
Here's my interpretation of the ending as a trans woman myself. The film leaves You (the audience) without closure to Owen's story. What did she decide to do after sheepishly crawling out of that bathroom? It's ambiguous. Without that closure within the bounds of the screen itself, with nowhere to look for closure and meaning but a black screen and your reflection staring back at you, the film forces You to look within yourself for closure and meaning. To ask how You relate to what you've just witnessed, and the film has primed You to do this by showing how Owen and Maddie struggle continuously with their identity as it relates to characters on a screen, and You are invited to do the same. If You want Owen to experience freedom, the only thing to be done is to experience freedom yourself (whatever that means to You.)
@Progressunlikely
@Progressunlikely 2 ай бұрын
I saw the ending as being that horrific and frustrating so as to make the audience ACT. Don't become Owen. Its a date worse than death. Often we mistake a compromised closeted life for safety. But really you are still dying. And for what? For the sake of people who do not care about you beyond your compliance. It's terrible. So don't be like Owen. There is still time. ACT.
@SoICanComment163
@SoICanComment163 2 ай бұрын
I also interpreted it as a somewhat ambiguous ending, but definitely left me feeling not very optimistic for Owen/Maddy’s future.
@RusPitman
@RusPitman 2 ай бұрын
I saw in an interview that they filmed a more obviously hopeful version of the ending but went with this one instead as they essentially felt it was more effective.
@lostmonkey
@lostmonkey 2 ай бұрын
That was my understanding. Owen finally looks inside, to the part of themselves they've been terrified to confront since high school.... And then stuffs it back down, goes back out to perform their role as expected and apologize for even expressing the need to be seen earlier.
@ianmoore7246
@ianmoore7246 2 ай бұрын
Hello. Queer non binary person here, and how anyone could be blind to the actual story here is beyond me. While I was disappointed by the marketing of this film as a horror story, I definitely enjoyed the film, and found myself crying through most of it because of how much of my youth it brought back up for me. Hell, I'm crying right now just writing this. Thank you LaRon for your excellent video essay.
@chicotski342
@chicotski342 2 ай бұрын
I mean, trans colors flying over a boy while the most feminine song ever plays, its really crazy how people refuse to get it
@RandomOldPerson
@RandomOldPerson Ай бұрын
It’s because the vast majority of people don’t see stories outside the outermost layer unless they’re beaten over the head with it or it directly relates to their personal experiences. As an autistic I’ve noticed hundreds of autistic characters from old shows and movies that almost all average people dismiss as “that’s not autistic, they’re just quirky/immature/nerds” or “that’s just how doctors/accountants/professors/cops act.” And there’s nothing wrong with that. Almost no one recognizes tropes outside their own experiences. It’s a skill that has to be taught.
@chicotski342
@chicotski342 Ай бұрын
@@RandomOldPerson I get what youre saying. Still, in the tv glow owen literally wears a dress and feels guilty about it, its still hard for me to belive that can go over peoples head
@RandomOldPerson
@RandomOldPerson Ай бұрын
@@chicotski342 Oh I agree. That’s not even subtext, but remember most straight people had no idea Richard Simmons or Liberace were gay for decades until someone flat out told them. People rarely notice things that are outside their experiences without a spotlight because most people assume everyone else is like themselves when in reality we are far more different than most can accept. Same reason you can’t understand them missing it comes from the same mental place as why they don’t make the connection.
@chicotski342
@chicotski342 Ай бұрын
@@RandomOldPerson Yeah. I guess I can understand people can have little to no clue about identities/cultures they dont belong to, but also no habit of trying to interpret the content or art they consume. Its surprising some times but I get it
@eleanorapril5
@eleanorapril5 2 ай бұрын
The fact that anyone couldn't pick up on transness when the opening scene features the protagonist WITH TRANS PRIDE COLOURS BILLOWING BEHIND THEM baffles me beyond belief
@RandomOldPerson
@RandomOldPerson Ай бұрын
Vast majority of people don’t know what the different colors mean because there are far too many to keep track of and because they don’t have any bearing on their lives. And I don’t just mean straight people. Most LGBT+ people also don’t keep up with the colors of groups they aren’t a part of. And there’s nothing wrong with that.
@sweetlevi4061
@sweetlevi4061 Ай бұрын
@@RandomOldPerson thats the thing, pink and blue are gendered colors flag or no flag. Like i wasnt even thinking about the flag colours but the fact that the character is drifting through blue and pink. COlours that are so heavily gendered if you put a baby in one colour and not the other it pisses people off.
@drewberriesandcream
@drewberriesandcream 2 ай бұрын
this movie reminded me of the matrix, which was ALSO an allegory of the trans experience
@mx.magestyk
@mx.magestyk 2 ай бұрын
When I first watched the movie, it sort of flew over my head. Yeah, I understood the queer and trans aspects, but I was left feeling confused and lost because I didn’t have the same intense emotional reaction I had been seeing everyone else like me (trans/transmasculine and queer) have. Granted, I’m autistic, so a lot of stuff that is purposely left hidden in subtext rather than blatantly stated flies over my head (which is why I enjoy video essays-they explain the beauty of the things I missed and allow me to gain a deeper appreciation for the things I enjoy). Even outside of that, though, I still ended the movie thinking it was a truly beautiful creation, whether I understood the themes or not.
@ElectricheadPt1
@ElectricheadPt1 2 ай бұрын
I’m over here just innocently trying to eat toothpaste and I’m taking strays here…
@hartthorn
@hartthorn 2 ай бұрын
One aspect of Owen's dad that I thought was perfect was THAT is was rather understated, but entirely unambiguous. We get that ONE line from him, which clearly bad is a very "mild" kind of bad. But having him basically silent for all other appearances leaves the oppression without ever 100% confirming it, which is a special hell for many Queer people. The knowledge that it's not gonna be GREAT if you come out, but not knowing how bad it is. If it had more lines from him about "manning up" and "stop being a little b*#&$", there it very DIRECTLY villainizes the dad in a way cishet people would be COMFORTED by. "Oh, well, *I'm* not like that asshole, I love all my gay friends! All one of them!" Believe you've even spoken on similar aspects to how racism is often portrayed in media as the actions of an ignorant segment of people. Also, a master stroke in casting Fred Durst in the role as well. 90s icon of macho bravado, but who has his own personal story figuring out where he fit into the world. How he actually HATED a large portion of the culture and fandom around Limp Bizkit because HE always felt like an outsider nerd and was making his music in rebellion to that, only to become pure Dudebro Jock fodder. He is 100% in on the joke of his casting for this role. For the second question, it wasn't a Queer story that came to mind, but a very special run of Deadpool comics. The Daniel Way era of the title will always have a special place in my heart for showing depression in such a bizarre, visceral, and oddly FUN form while never mocking it. And it was reading these comics (and developing that parasocial bond with the character! Aaah!) that helped me through my own depression. And part of what I love about it is that it's so STUPID, but by god Wade would love it.
@nopestopnow3596
@nopestopnow3596 2 ай бұрын
I didn’t even recognize Durst it was wild! He gave a very good performance
@AceBobcat
@AceBobcat Ай бұрын
Wait, is Fred Durst actually kinda based?
@hartthorn
@hartthorn Ай бұрын
@@AceBobcat he is an often imperfect ally, but he is an ally.
@egg_bun_
@egg_bun_ 29 күн бұрын
Omg, yes, yes, yes!!
@JayGatz4
@JayGatz4 2 ай бұрын
Gods bless SOMEBODY made this fuckin video thank. There was a couple I saw walking out, one of them literally called this a 'bad shitty suck movie' and the other was like 'well, I mean, no, it wasn't bad' (straight couple wow whoda guessed) and that was how I knew I had to see it. Sitting in the theatre, it wasn't even the halfway point before I started thinking 'she' and 'her' pronouns. That ending was a gut punch, but people forget that art is not just here to make us happy. It's here to make us feel. Sometimes, that feeling is unpleasant, hurtful, agony. I have the theatrical poster on my wall for a reason. For me, when I saw the tv glow as a child? It glowed blue for me. I'm glad I was able to break out of the static before I had myself hollowed.
@Above_Average_Joe315
@Above_Average_Joe315 2 ай бұрын
A recent example of non-queer people ignoring queer coding is Spider Gwen from the second spider verse movie. Her arc is coming to terms with her father about her true self and him initially rejecting it due to his position in society as a cop. There's the fact that captain Stacey hates spider woman because she "killed his son" in Peter, something trans women are accused of doing to their pre-transition identity. Hell, when Gwen confronts her father at the end of the movie about being Spider woman, the colors of her universe turn pink, blue, and white. But she's definitely not trans because cis people said so.
@abstracttechnician2750
@abstracttechnician2750 2 ай бұрын
I will point out that that exact same thing is used in every medium that exists as a metaphor for growing up and developing agency. Nothing about it is inherently Trans. Even the colors blue and pink have been used though out the decades for lots of different things. There is nothing in the spidergwen story that is Trans. I'm not saying it isn't representative of Trans stories, I AM saying it is such a basic part of human development that it is impossible to see as exclusively Trans. The Spidergwen story plays out more like a daughter maturing into her own person and her father confronting that fact with a color pallette chosen to give the sequence a bittersweet feel to it. Nothing special to Trans about it, everyone goes through it to one degree or another.
@tyghe_bright
@tyghe_bright 2 ай бұрын
@@abstracttechnician2750 Well, there is the trans flag in Gwen's bedroom saying “Protect Trans Kids”.
@CiCodiCadno
@CiCodiCadno 2 ай бұрын
​@@abstracttechnician2750 op: gives a detailed explanation of what counts as queer _coding_ for Gwen. You: they've used similar themes for lots of things, it isn't trans! Almost like... Like it was just coding and not explicit! Or something! Bruh.
@RandomOldPerson
@RandomOldPerson Ай бұрын
@@CiCodiCadno A coded character is written in such a way that they are intended to represent a specific demographic through metaphor so people who may be bigoted against or indifferent against those people normally can be tricked into relating to them, and/or for people in that group can see themselves in a character that can’t explicitly be in the story because of social taboos. There’s nothing wrong with seeing Gwen as a trans female allegory and that may have been how the writers intended it, but outside of the color shifting background her arc is also a very standard bordering on cliche father-daughter coming of age story. It also works just as well as a lesbian or bisexual coming of age moment or a neurodivergent coming of age allegory. It’s not entirely or even mostly belonging to any one group which is what the vast majority are objecting to. Neither of you are wrong, but the more people needlessly argue this point the more deeply the lines between trans and everyone else, especially other LGB+ people, are dug. Gatekeeping this by mocking others is harming far more than helping.
@CiCodiCadno
@CiCodiCadno Ай бұрын
@@RandomOldPerson with respect, a bigot isn't going to take too kindly to anyone refering to Gwen's coming of age/father-daughter/trans allegory as bisexual, gay, or neurodivergent either. The very mention of "this is queer coding" turning into, to paraphrase you, 'entirely claiming her/her coding for one group, aka queer people', is the real problem. If queer or neurodiverse or mixed race or black people or women see themselves in a character that is not explicitly "theirs", cishet white male capital G gamers lose their tiny minds. We (queer people) and they (cishet white male gamers) treat the argument in different ways. We say coding is coding and we enjoy seeing it. They see coding as "a stake of claim on the character" and go off on one.
@Orange-tf3bf
@Orange-tf3bf 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, I loved this movie so much and it drives me crazy when people don't get it. Really appreciate you using she/her for the main character.
@zerotohero14
@zerotohero14 2 ай бұрын
Hi non-binary person here. I immediately got the Buffy or Charmed inferences and felt I would have loved The Pink Opaque. I always felt at home with these characters and seen.
@skywardlii
@skywardlii 2 ай бұрын
“Pretty and problematic people that persistently need permission to exist” is a truly incredible turn of phrase. Like I have to shout out what incredible writing that is, La’Ron, wow. Amazing work, loved the video!
@laurenjulia1877
@laurenjulia1877 Ай бұрын
I was half asleep when my husband turned this movie on, so I fell asleep for the dress scene and without that one thing, I took it to mean ignoring your real self and how that ruins your mental health. Being queer adds a whole new level to mental health for a lot of people. So for me those themes just naturally go together, but maybe I’m making it too simple. Also the soundtrack woke my ass up real quick, several times lol
@hartthorn
@hartthorn 2 ай бұрын
Side Note: so would the people, the PROFESSIONALS, who looked straight (heh) past the allegory to try and dissect the supernatural plot line as if it was the core element be a case of "And they were ROOMMATES!" happening in real time?
@tempesttossed6029
@tempesttossed6029 2 ай бұрын
yep
@magnusfalls
@magnusfalls 2 ай бұрын
I watched this a few days ago and it affected me far more than I ever expected. Watching someone wrestle with their identity, being terrified of the potential effects on their life, and running from it was something I still haven't shaken.
@SebastianSeanCrow
@SebastianSeanCrow 2 ай бұрын
2:43 on writing on the wall: the high school boards say things like carpe diem (seize the day) and the high school is Void High and their mascot is the vulture. Like I noticed that first off the bat and I hadn’t seen anybody mention it. Like there’s so much to this movie. Like people don’t even mention the puke in the bath 😭
@MaiLolita
@MaiLolita 2 ай бұрын
I'm a bi woman who figured out my sexuality in my late-20s due to trauma, and I went to this movie in theatres with three other people. We all came out with very different opinions on the movie-for me, it was one of the most visceral and impactful movies I've seen in my life. Of course, I can only imagine how much harder it would hit for a trans person, but the admission that coming out is terrifying and can come at great personal risk, paired with the sinking dread of knowing that failing to live as your authentic self will slowly drain the life from you... It's a type of extensial horror that has sat with me long after I left that theatre and the fact that my friends and I all came out with different feelings on the film (heck, the person who liked it the least wasn't even het-) just tells me that it's ideas are worth thinking about-that it has meat on its bones-and the message that there is still time to embrace who you are was so quietly affirming. I can't fully express how glad I am that this movie exists.
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 2 ай бұрын
While I don’t know my sexuality, I definitely see a message about still having time and needing to take agency for anything!
@AREA-jp8vb
@AREA-jp8vb Ай бұрын
I’m a straight person and I really connected to this movie. The scene at the end where he’s screaming in the birthday room and everybody’s just silent really hit home for me. I have never seen a feeling portrayed more accurately on screen ever. I suffer from OCD and I quietly suffer in my head constantly feeling like I can’t escape or quiet down my thoughts. It feels like I want to escape my mind all the time. And I could only imagine how a person must feel dealing with being in the wrong body or not being their true selves. And I know this movie wasn’t about mental health or mental disorders, but I think the silent struggle and agony depicted in this movie could also resonate with anybody who’s dealt with mental health problems, mental disorders, or trauma. And hopefully bring them closer to a better understanding of what some of the LGBTQ community goes through when they’re not supported in being themselves.
@AngDevigne
@AngDevigne 2 ай бұрын
"jellybeans and toothpaste" is officially going in my repertoire. Thank you.
@ymn9738
@ymn9738 2 ай бұрын
Shrek is a queer movie about one gay showing another gay that its ok to be gay. Im not changing my mind on this.
@seyspectra
@seyspectra Ай бұрын
Donkey showing Shrek or Shrek showing Fiona?
@dakai-kun2248
@dakai-kun2248 Ай бұрын
I thought it was about connecting with others and not letting people's judgement of you stop you from being your own hero and finding your true love, no matter what you or they look like. In a way your right.
@ymn9738
@ymn9738 Ай бұрын
@@seyspectra yes
@ymn9738
@ymn9738 Ай бұрын
@@dakai-kun2248 yes
@CatHasOpinions734
@CatHasOpinions734 2 ай бұрын
Idk if people are IGNORING it exactly, because this is one of those shows that more people have opinions about it than have actually seen it, but I'm a fierce fan of Sailor Moon, and I have had people try to explain to me that "Isn't it ridiculous how people these days think that, like, every single character in that show is queer? Like, obviously there's that one couple that aren't cousins, but seriously." No, no it really isn't ridiculous, yes, seriously. Lots of queerness in the original anime is just blatant and impossible to ignore, but even beyond that, there is SO MUCH that's not explicitly stated but that makes a whole lot more sense through a queer lens. Like, there are a ton of interactions Usagi has with women that, if you squint real hard, could maybe just be admiration, but that make a whole lot more sense as crushes. Hell, I think the straightest person among the inner senshi is Minako, and even she would 100% date Haruka if Haruka wasn't already with Michiru. For a while I thought Mamoru was probably also straight-ish, but then a friend pointed out that A LOT of absolutely GORGEOUS people throw themselves at him over the course of the show, and his reactions range from "politely disinterested" to "oh god how do I make this stop", which I couldn't relate with but made my ace friend feel very seen so... yeah.
@JayGatz4
@JayGatz4 2 ай бұрын
I'll be real I'm reading the Sailor Moon manga rn, and you do not have to squint at all. There are heart eyes drawn into the girls eyes when they talk about women, actively wistful sighs, sometimes even making statements like 'I wish I could date her'. Like, idk if it's the translation I'm reading (it's the Naoko Takeuchi collection specifically) but you pretty much have to deliberately ignore the queerness. And that's not even getting into Haruka's gender stuff and his relationship with Michiru!
@mostlyAGI
@mostlyAGI 2 ай бұрын
I loved the movie and cried at the ending. After I watched it I immediately knew that the story conveyed would be divisive in the critiques. Imo, best horror movie yet for 2024.
@clarapilier
@clarapilier 2 ай бұрын
I like this movie and even though I am straight and cyst, I could relate to the characters on several levels, using art (in this case a TV show) as a form of escapism from one own life when your emotional needs are not fulfilled and you see yourself and an Other. The difficulty of finding people you could relate to. The underlying self-hate is because you don't fit. To suppress your true self to accommodate others, especially people you love. How time and conformity chip away your sanity bit by bit. However I felt while growing or right now, I know is 100 times harder for queer folks. This movie left me with a sense of dread because sometimes I think I will do that, I will scream bloody murder in front of people because I was not able to build the life I want for myself.
@NortherlyK
@NortherlyK Ай бұрын
"... because they think Context Clues is a show on Nick Jr." 🤣🤣🤣
@KatieAngelWitch
@KatieAngelWitch 2 ай бұрын
I said this elsewhere and will say it in my own video on the movie once I finally get around to it, but as someone who has written specifically trans stories with the intention of having the readers experience the egg crack alongside the character, I Saw The TV Glow is the harsh, brutal version of what I wrote. While my first and most known work, Deviled Egg, was lighthearted cheese, I recognize that I could have made A Transformative Spark as harsh as I Saw the TV Glow. Where I picked up the reader and dusted them off, Jane yells in their faces, weeping There is still time. Honestly I feel robbed that people project on mainstream works and ignore the self published works of queer people. It also saddens me that the meat mallet level of bluntness this movie was was still not enough to get the Straights to see the queerness, but I'm not sure how to write a Monster Hunter Hammer level of bluntness for them to not notice it until they're smacked with it.
@haroldoftherock8973
@haroldoftherock8973 2 ай бұрын
Who skips the collard greens? I prefer mustard greens, but still.
@Readus101
@Readus101 2 ай бұрын
You'd be surprised...
@teesh871
@teesh871 2 ай бұрын
Im straight but neurodivergent so...i enjoyed it much but needed a little help with it. Thankyou for your support and patience friendly community.
@uncalivable
@uncalivable Ай бұрын
I (a cis mostly-straight woman) went to see this with my friend (trans nonbinary). At the end of the movie, we turn to each other, and at the same moment they said "that was one of the greatest movies I've ever seen" and I said "I didn't really get it." It wasn't that I was incapable of empathizing, the allegory had simply gone directly over my head. They explained it to me in the car on the way home and there was so much that I had completely missed.
@nopestopnow3596
@nopestopnow3596 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I was expecting a liminal space horror vibe. Which the movie did do, but as a queer person I did quite quickly identify the core of the film and what is was about. It fucked me up, I was going in for a horror film and exited sobbing at seeing what I and many other queer/trans people have had to go through before and after making the realization that we are in fact queer. I think what made me most emotional about this was the fact that Owen was so deep in masking who she really is it was coming to the point it was slowly but blatantly killing her. Even the way they chose to display this fact by the way Owen was becoming more dependent on an inhaler (I.e. denial or huffing copium), and heavily wheezing was spot on in my own feelings of trying to hide a part of myself. And what was heart breaking and all to familiar to me was the way that Maddie made their discovery and chose to come out and live their life, while Owen made her discovery but stayed closeted and how it will eventually take her life sooner or later if she doesn’t make her escape.
@Progressunlikely
@Progressunlikely 2 ай бұрын
I had an interesting discussion with my trans friends leaving the theatre and questioning how to discuss Owen, the casting and what pronouns to use. I argue that Owen would absolutely insist on he/him pronouns at his current state in the movie.
@cfor8129
@cfor8129 2 ай бұрын
The movie is about the egg crack moment - using she/her is kind of an expression of hope that she goes forward to do something with what she learned.
@Progressunlikely
@Progressunlikely 2 ай бұрын
@@cfor8129 but then do you think Owen should have been played by Helena Howard? I think this movie really resonated with me because I have been Maddy in my life and been pushed down in fields and run away from when I see things in people they are not ready for. Since then I realize you have to meet people where they are at.
@simplerick_ssb3043
@simplerick_ssb3043 10 күн бұрын
One of my favorite parts of this film was the people completely freezing when Owen freaks out. It simultaneously represented so many things to go along with the theme of discovering and dealing with being trans, as you put it, while also making me say "Woah...is everything Maddy said true?" in terms of the surface plot. I hadn't even really considered her story being true until that moment, and then it became almost undeniable. Highly compelling stuff.
@beautifulmidnight
@beautifulmidnight 2 ай бұрын
Bless. The straight guy in my film group just posted a meh review of this. Gonna go roast him and post this video. (Also, how did I not know Justice Smith was gay? Fantastic.)
@givemeliberty700
@givemeliberty700 2 ай бұрын
Roasting someone for thier opinion ,no Bueno.
@beautifulmidnight
@beautifulmidnight 2 ай бұрын
@@givemeliberty700 It’s playful roasting from the only queer in the group. It’s done with affection, I promise.
@givemeliberty700
@givemeliberty700 2 ай бұрын
@@beautifulmidnight that's good , are you in college for film group?
@givemeliberty700
@givemeliberty700 2 ай бұрын
@@beautifulmidnight sounds like fun
@beautifulmidnight
@beautifulmidnight 2 ай бұрын
@@givemeliberty700 I wish. No, it’s just a group on Facebook. We post reviews and talk shit about movies and it’s a good time.
@macrograms
@macrograms 3 күн бұрын
i'm so straight i can't sit up but i loved this film. disturbed, touched, challenged, but loved it. so much.
@leahspyder8156
@leahspyder8156 2 ай бұрын
This was 10000000% based on Buffy and it was amazing. Whedon not withstanding. One of the best shows ever made. I will die on this hill.
@sliccthedestroyer1881
@sliccthedestroyer1881 2 ай бұрын
I hate the fact the algorithm decided to show me this video now instead of day 1. I haven’t watched the movie but now i’m going to. I’ve been having trans thoughts since middle school. But i only truly understood them during the pandemic and that really killed my ability to be productive.
@thepineyapple
@thepineyapple Ай бұрын
I love that they got both actors from Pete and Pete to be in the movie. This movie was the exact time period I grew up in and it was perfect!
@ramseymansford2246
@ramseymansford2246 2 ай бұрын
I was completely lost with this film, and I'm a gay man in my early 40's who came out at 19. I studied liberal arts in college and studied film. I knew absolutely nothing about this film or its creators going into it. I watched it because it had a high rating on Rotten Tomatoes. But it wasn't until the end that I even got a hint it was queer coded. The film kept me awake, but as a queer person, there was no resonance. I empathize with straight folk if they didn't get it.
@Dietghostscp2107
@Dietghostscp2107 2 ай бұрын
My moment of discovery was undoubtedly the fault of Inuyasha's brother. Lord Fluffy, Sesshomaru himself.
@Sirene1134
@Sirene1134 2 ай бұрын
It's also tantamount to people being incurious about the creators of the media they consume, because a simple google of Jane Schoenbrun and watching Any interview abiut the movie would have explained things 🤣
@tempesttossed6029
@tempesttossed6029 2 ай бұрын
Everyone turns out to be problematic. May as well never look into the creators to preserve the original experience and leave the work unsullied.
@tyghe_bright
@tyghe_bright 2 ай бұрын
I mean, I can't relate to all the cis straight people in most movies. Those people are always doing things that make no sense and having drama over the most meaningless things. What are they even on about?
@dmcginnis1000
@dmcginnis1000 2 ай бұрын
I didn’t realize the connection at first to Nickelodeon shows but it makes perfect sense…every show you mentioned I adored. I feel pretty lucky growing up on those shows. This was a great movie…I “like” at the end of the movie the sense of re-evaluation the main character has of the show…it is definitely sad in the context of the movie, but I know I have experienced that too revisiting old shows. But for me, I have often felt a different feeling in re-evaluating things. As a white, queer cis-man, I was drawn to pro-wrestling when I was younger (for reasons that probably has no precedent..:)). The humor aside, they embodied heroes I should aim for in my mind…so I bought the bait. I don’t think I stopped watching wrestling because I learned it was “fake” exactly, but when I realized that I needed better heroes, heroes that I could actually become, heroes who seemed at peace with themselves, heroes not walking around in circles. Maybe that is the inverse of this great movie…
@MrMayfly101
@MrMayfly101 11 күн бұрын
As a straight person, I think this was the only film that really helped me to understand that experience. I’ll never truly know how it feels, but I think this film does do wonders in helping straight people empathise.
@Arphenya
@Arphenya 2 ай бұрын
Ahh very satisfying video to watch as a queer person, you explained well the blindspots of straight media critique. I kinda knew some things to expect about this film, but when I finally watched it it still hit me hard and it's stuck in my head since. I'm well into my transition but it conjured this existential void and outsider-looking-in feeling that filled my younger years I've got to learn about my queerness and acknowledged it in myself thanks to, among others, BBC Sherlock. That's another case of a prominently queer story where the gay aspects where dismissed by many as speculation. I don't care about that debate now, but what I care about is that it was an important entry point to understanding that I can, in fact, have a place in this world. Especially since I come from somewhere where that kind of discussion is really lagging behind in mainstream pop culture.
@themystery424
@themystery424 5 күн бұрын
I've been out for a little less than a year (ftm), and when I saw this movie for the first time, I was terrified. I saw myself, the path I had initially wanted to make myself walk. I'm grateful for the Maddy's in my life, who pulled me underground 💜
@arnoldkevinson
@arnoldkevinson 2 ай бұрын
Banshees of Ineshiran! I feel like a crazy person because i know so many people who saw that movie and not a single one of them thought it was about queerness.
@sweetandsavoury
@sweetandsavoury Ай бұрын
As a gay person this movie hit so hard and made me feel emotions and feelings I had growing up as a teenager
@nestorarranz3179
@nestorarranz3179 Ай бұрын
Im a cis het man and 23 so safe to say ther is a bunch of stuff i definetively missed, queer and trans allegories i defintley saw im not blind like someone else said the trans flag is in the first scene of the movie and bisexual lighting as well. But i was left with a lot of stuff that i just didnt know what to do with and a lot of it was cleared up by this video. I will see the movie again and hopefully i connect more with it. I think my expectations were very high and the odd pace and form of storytelling just made me feel lime i was missing things all the time. I liked it in the "a the second time will clear up how much i liked it" kind of way
@raylynne5280
@raylynne5280 2 ай бұрын
Never seen this channel before but after watching 7 minutes of this video and looking through some of the other videos you've posted, you've gained yourself a new subscriber! The amount of thought and care that went into making this is amazing, this channel needs more attention 💜
@Yesnomu
@Yesnomu 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful movie, and the portrayal of a quiet spiraling desperation was powerful! More people should see it.
@Radak1985
@Radak1985 Ай бұрын
I related to l Saw the TV Glow due to the fact l relate to the demon Crowley so much in Good Omens. I'm a gay trans man so both of them helped push me into moving 1500 miles away just to get my healthcare
@ree4353
@ree4353 Ай бұрын
On first watch I cried so much like ugly sobbing most of the way through, but I didn't know why and I didn't really understand what I had just watched. It just hit me. I haven't stopped thinking about it since. As a queer person I like to think I know who i am, but I also think there's a part of me that has gone undiscovered and untouched, and I don't know how to even begin approaching it. To me, this film perfectly captures that feeling of being in limbo with your identity, and clinging to anything I even slightly see myself in because it feels more real than whatever is actually floating around inside me, waiting to become something solid and tangible.
@Jessi_vasqueegee
@Jessi_vasqueegee 2 ай бұрын
I completely get not interacting with anything associated with Joss Whedon now, but watching Buffy when it first aired was such a Gay Experience. It's different from the other WB shows you mentioned in the sense that courting a queer audience was very intentional, especially in later seasons. But even early on, being a slayer is used as a deliberate allegory for being queer. There was just nothing really like it on television at the time, particularly for queer youth. Watching I Saw The T.V. Glow felt like a love letter to Buffy the Vampire Slayer from queer kids in the 90s/early 2000s
@nerdtubewtf
@nerdtubewtf 2 ай бұрын
16:49 I guessed the source before you told me due to the shot of Tara (as an aparant cameo in this film) who what this bi chica's first seeing herself as a 20 something gen xer. Yeah, I and many of my friends (this show appealed to so many of us divergent peeps) lived for Tara & Willow and after the death of Tara into dark willow(I and other soooo identified with this pain of loss of someone who SEES you, ALL of you). Then you go later a decade of so (recall that in this era you were either gay or hetero, if inbetween you were just lying about one of them sort of pressures). Then you add in Xena and decade later with True Blood and Anna Paquins character and the actress herself where mething for many of us the parasocial aspect allowed us to see ourselves in ways we didn't know we could see ourselves as. These gave us a sort of self permission to allow us to see ourselves fully and lovingly without the societal (and familial) distrust/hatred. Didn't want to talk over other peeps just a tangent of emotions that you bring up (also thank you too, for showing me how to give myself permission to see & feel all of my with love, cuz dear person, your words in tangent help this intersectional disabled chica exist in a world that hates peeps like me, oh very ND too, but shows up differently in latino/indegenous adjecent peeps like me)
@morganleanderblake678
@morganleanderblake678 2 ай бұрын
I feel like people who grew up straight don't get that parasocial relationships to fandoms form when the only queers you get to relate to are in fiction. Don't get me wrong, I'm super glad that my successors in the high schools have lots of queer classmates. But for a lot of older queers, you got a book character, and it was a weird fringe book if you were lucky. Not something anyone would have read unless they sought it out. Something weird. Something like both the fictional world and the movie itself.
@morganleanderblake678
@morganleanderblake678 2 ай бұрын
Also weirdly perfect for queer and trans friendships. This movie really captures the essence of how much a person can feel like a lifeline to another world.
@tempesttossed6029
@tempesttossed6029 2 ай бұрын
My biggest issue with the film was and still is how hopeless it feels. I haven't seen anyone mirror my feelings on it either. Without the blink and you'll miss it "there is still time," message at the very end, this film is just a depressing example of never being true to yourself. The nightmare of realising far too late that yes, you did make the worst mistake of your life and you probably cannot fix it mentally and emotionally ruined me. The scene of the main character SCREAMING during a panic attack and no one able to listen is viscerally relatable and unnerving. When I first watched it, this was the only ending to the film for me. I was so disturbed that I never registered there was supposed to be a flimsy message of hope buried in there. I still don't like the film for the very reason it was a truly horrific experience to endure; it is an example of realistic hopelessness and regret wrapped up in a disturbing existential horror film.
@DunceTree93
@DunceTree93 Ай бұрын
As a lesbian, I did myself a disservice by throwing this on while doing chores and not paying attention to it, being told "yeah its a new horror movie"...only to see the ending and think "huh, I sure did miss a f*cking lot". Then my friend told me to rewatch it and boy howdy, respectfully, with love, F this movie ❤ I will never need to rewatch it again, cause I remember every scene vividly. It tore me apart. Limb from limb.
@yasielromero8236
@yasielromero8236 Ай бұрын
I liked the movie when I watched it but I was very confused by it and all this definitively flew over my head. Now I need to watch it again for sure.
@powersofdestruction5694
@powersofdestruction5694 Ай бұрын
I finally got to see this movie last night, and one of the first things I said to my friends afterwards was that I was sure when I went to look for online discussions nobody would understand it but other trans people. Glad to see that I wasn’t entirely right.
@chicotski342
@chicotski342 2 ай бұрын
I love it that they could have made the movie in a way most cis people would understand, but it was made FOR queer people instead
@NatalieLovesxo
@NatalieLovesxo 2 ай бұрын
I was locked in to the movie. I was really hoping Isabel was going to find her way back at the end but we didn't see it happen, which is probably what the writer wanted but it was NOT what I wanted! 😭 I enjoyed the movie and I understand why it was released in spring because seasonal depression is about to hit and I need happy ending movies.
@manfromwuhan5876
@manfromwuhan5876 2 ай бұрын
Have a great day brother
@LettaLeeJoy
@LettaLeeJoy Ай бұрын
So to answer the homework question. When I first watched "I Saw the TV Golw" it shook me to my core. I didn't know it was going to be trans going in. I knew it had some amount of transness in it, but there was no preparing me for how explicitly trans the whole movie was. To the point that I needed to check around and make sure I wasn't just entirely projecting. It was a relief to realize so many other people saw what I saw. I've never seen anything else that so viscerally captures what my own trans experience has felt like. In "I Saw the TV Glow", I saw a trans story where the trans person in question doesn't realize they're trans. Where she doesn't even realize that being trans is an option. But she realizes this TV show makes her feel a certain way. When she's confronted with the reality that those feelings actually mean something, (Maddi/Tara confronting her in the bar and telling her the Pink Opaque is real) her instinct is to deny it. To dismiss it as ridiculous, not even possible. Despite how much she may wish it were true. That's how I first reacted to the concept of being trans when I first heard about it in my early 20's. Yet the thought ultimately lingers for Owen, like it did for me, growing more and more overwhelming as time goes on. Even as she rejects the idea and subsequently lives with the consequences of that. The ending is what would have become of me ha d i continued to reject the possibility. It is the horror of living your whole life slowly dying, and the reassurance that there is still time. That's especially potent for us late bloomers I think. I see in "I Saw the TV Glow" a story about being a late bloomer queer who struggles to believe their own feelings and hesitates to accept themselves. Because accepting yourself, daring to believe you're something others say you shouldn't be, or they say is beyond the realm of possibility all together, that's scary. It's a risk. It means acknowledging there's something you want, and what if you can never truly have it? Never find a way to live the life you actually desire? I struggle a lot with imposter syndrome as a late bloomer queer. I have nights believing myself is hard, even as I take hormones for the 22nd consecutive month. And one of the things that can at times contribute to that is seeing the same exact trans narrative over and over again about how I was supposed to of known when I was in Kindergarten. I didn't. I knew I wanted to be a girl. But I didn't know wanting to be a girl meant anything. I know a lot about my read of this movie is subjective and specific to me. But all the same, I don't think I've ever seen myself in a piece of media quite like this. And that... that makes me feel real. (Oof, ended up typing this up in tears. 😅)
@jorgebenavente9872
@jorgebenavente9872 2 ай бұрын
I'm straight, for the most part haha. I have no idea how anyone doesn't see the queer symbolism throughout the film, it's not even implicit it's fully explicit. Good film though, a lifetime of being eaten inside because of the profound stigma imposed by society is something I wish no one ever would face
@Athene14cvpid
@Athene14cvpid Ай бұрын
The thing is the movie was much more than just an lgbtq film. If you aren’t trans or part of the lgbtq you should still be able to relate to this movie a lot. Like you mentioned, it’s nostalgic and is a great representation of what it’s like to feel as if you can’t reach your full potential and drowning for it. This movie is for sure for those who think abstractly and like receiving a message when watching a film. Those who didn’t get it might just have watched it for aesthetic or something because the message is kind of hard to miss if you’re paying attention.
@rutherfrogp.wilmington4907
@rutherfrogp.wilmington4907 25 күн бұрын
Absolutely loved this film. Saw it 4 times within the first month it came out. It really does hit hard. Loved your review and analysis, you’ve earned a subscriber and I will recommend your channel to my friends
@oneradlad
@oneradlad 2 ай бұрын
As a trans woman that has that spent the majority of my life ignorant to the fact, this movie absolutely leveled me.
@enotj
@enotj 27 күн бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS!! i have been trying to find a queer central review/explanation because I had so many feelings watching this as a non-binary person, but couldn't find a video that helped me articulate what I was feeling.
@astieyu
@astieyu 23 күн бұрын
I just watched this movie last night and I saw it for what it was immediately. I think being a closeted trans person can be very horrific for a lot of cis people to really think about. The scene of Owen looking at her chest, seeing the hairs, seeing her body age and change and escape from her while her mind stayed the same... the horror of that is something nearly every trans person experiences during puberty & onwards. The fact that she's so afraid of making others uncomfortable and being an inconvenience that she chooses to take a backseat to her own life just to keep some semblance of normalcy... that's very relatable to me personally and i'm sure a lot of others. The true terror for me was in how much I saw myself in her- time moves way too quickly sometimes haha. And the more time passes the more afraid I feel of finally taking a step forward. I sometimes feel like it's too late to do anything about it now. But i'm not old yet. There is still time in this world for all of us to make a change for the better. I think that's the true message of this film. Don't let your life pass you by while you watch from the sidelines, or you'll find yourself trapped just like owen. That's what I feel anyways. I don't think I'll ever forget this film. It's truly a masterpiece in so many ways ❤ many thanks for this great & thoughtful video about it!
@raylynne5280
@raylynne5280 2 ай бұрын
I'm bisexual as well and I agree, to not see the message (especially if you're queer yourself) it's willful ignorance, it's BLATANTLY obvious what this movie is about. I could see heterosexual cisgender people not understanding to an extent but even still, if you know what a trans person is, you really should "get it"...
@emilyrowl9421
@emilyrowl9421 2 ай бұрын
I hope this movie gets nominated for the Oscars, do you think it will? Will you make a video on the Diddy scandal that’s unfolding right now or no?
@averyeml
@averyeml Ай бұрын
I just watched this the other night, finally. I’m a queer (non-trans) person who went into it with the knowledge of its allegory without any actual single plot detail and was FLOORED. At first it took a while for me to sink into it- the vibes were flawless from beginning to end but I kept waiting for the horror element of this horror movie to kick in. But as soon as Maddy turned back up it all clicked and I ended the movie with my brain forever altered😅 I spent the next hour chatting with my trans friend who caught it right when it came out and was the reason it was on my list at all. An absolute revelation of a movie 🩵🤍🩷
@egancurry
@egancurry 22 күн бұрын
Maybe it’s not for the Cissies, but as a trans woman this movie made me feel seen in some of the most isolating emotions I’ve ever experienced. Every plot point I could trace to an event in my own life. Every strange piece of symbolism I could understand perfectly. I’ve never quite watched something like it.
@elsamarks8477
@elsamarks8477 2 ай бұрын
I am a trans woman, I think I got more out of the using media to cope than I got out of the trans/queer plot. I remember when I was a 18 and I saw Scott Pilgrim vs The World in theaters 21 times (I worked in a theater lol it was free) I was OBSESSED But I wasn’t just obsessed cuz it was good, but because I needed that to be my life. They were cool, dating cool people, they liked video games and were in a band. It made me get really into music, be more open about nerd things I liked, and get my shit together with fashion. I spent the better part of a decade (18-26) trying to force my life to look like these fictional 18-26 year olds… and it also kinda led me to justify some of my worst impulses in relationships!! I Saw The TV Glow is the first media to explain that back to me. Like media as escapism or a roadmap to follow is fuckin dog shit. BUT ALSO I think it really plays into my trans experience! I had to let go of my weird fandom childish ways before I could embrace being trans. But when I finally made that transition it was actually pretty easy! I’m not saying I don’t get called the F-slur on the bus, or that my parents love me - but they already didn’t when I decided I was to the left of Bill Clinton lol. I’m sorry, bad gay alert, I just didn’t get much out of the queer story here. Even though I’m glad everyone else did
@tesreso5448
@tesreso5448 Ай бұрын
"gayass collards" omg just that... Bruh ... My southern and Midwest experiences are screaming... I need to see this movie clearly. Get my greens~
@stallone4634
@stallone4634 2 ай бұрын
Comparing Buffy to either Charmed or Gilmore Girls is a crime to good television. Joss Whedon is a piece of shit and he may have been the creator, but that show is an ensemble piece. It works thanks to the TEAM of writers and frankly the stellar acting. Buffy isn’t Buffy without Sarah. And to entirely credit Joss for the shows existence is the erasure of what makes the show good and sustain. I promise you’re not going to find Charmed or the Gilmore Girls on critic’s best of TV lists. Buffy is on every one. For a reason.
@d3bbiecakes
@d3bbiecakes 27 күн бұрын
I really like some of the subtle symbols happening in the movie too... the ones I saw after the fact of it being explained to me..., like the fact that the show was way less scary when they were older - just like once you are out of high school and can explore your sexuality with more freedom you almost look back at it like "why was I ever scared to do this in the first place" Or the dad hosing him down after catching him going into the tv... like so many parents do when their kids try to come out
@d3bbiecakes
@d3bbiecakes 27 күн бұрын
I also see that how the rewatch when the show is streaming could be he remembers it as super scary but other people tell him it wasnt as bad as he remembers- gaslighting his struggles
@katc3234
@katc3234 22 күн бұрын
As an ace person who grew up in the 90s and early 00s, latching onto super problematic faves like Lois and Clark (featuring Dean Cain) and Angel (written by Joss Whedon), I find a lot of comfort in the fact that these shows are so much more than just one person. There's a lot of power I find in celebrating all the other folk involved - the women absolutely owning these roles, the gone-too-soon talent of actors like Andy Hallet featured on the show, the hard work of make-up artists and costumers and all the other writers and directors that poured their heart and soul into these janky little shows. Obviously it is your choice whether or not to look into these properties knowing their problematic creators, but if any of these problematic properties interest you in the least, please remember that a show is more than a single person.
@SailorSlay
@SailorSlay 26 күн бұрын
I like to think the pink opaque was the real world. They had super cool super powers and Isabelle defeats Mr. Melancholy to establish the silver millennium kingdom to rule the world.
@jczbas
@jczbas Ай бұрын
I wanted to see this as JUSTICE SMITH duh I see anything his fine ass does, but imma scary ahh bytch and can’t do Horror or ‘psychological Thriller’ sometimes so I read the wiki plot and was still lost been looking for videos to review and explain it 😭
@Cieln0va
@Cieln0va Ай бұрын
It's existentialist horror and it's still a great movie if you don't get the scary parts. There's only one part that has scary imagery and only one scene that has a monologue that could be troubling to watch if you have claustrophobia. Other than that, it's just a drama. I personally found it terrifying but that's just because I'm really sensitive to existentialism and the passage of time.
@alisabennett8327
@alisabennett8327 Ай бұрын
This movie made me bawl! And then it made me wanna call all my trans friends and give them a hug
@tzsh355
@tzsh355 Ай бұрын
I think my roommate and me might just be stupid because both of our trans asses didn’t get the movie, hahaha. But at the end it did make sense
@LadyCay129
@LadyCay129 16 күн бұрын
Even just the fact that this movie exists, despite a lot of cishet people (choosing to) misunderstand the movie, is huge representation and a huge leap for us as a community, the more we show ourselves and make ourselves unavoidable the more we’ll get respected
@amymoore7529
@amymoore7529 5 күн бұрын
9.02 called me out 😅
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