Which Denominations Believe in the (Pretribulation) Rapture?

[@jgpt857]

As always, this is a very well researched and detailed video. Nicely done. I like these comparative doctrinal videos that simply state who-believes-what.

[@ReadyToHarvest]

Thanks! It was a good and educational experience to make the video.

[@MrSASA51]

Hilarious analysis….

[@susankane8728]

Thank you, Mr Speaker. Yes, you give an informed, well researched look at some of the views about a pre tribulation/post tribulation rapture being taught and discussed today. From what I have studied, I believe that there is only one grand and glorious rapture - the second coming of our Lord and King Jesus Christ- No secret or pre tribulation rapture period. The people of God Will experience the time of great trouble or the great Tribulation, yet God will give His faithful people uncommon strength and courage to go through, and even die, if necessary, for their faith in God. As for the seven last plagues which follow the great Tribulation, only the unrepentant wicked will experience these plagues. They shall not come near the righteous, “only with your eyes shall you behold the reward of the wicked.” I am amazed that so many congregations really believe in a pre tribulation rapture. Where in the world do they get this notion? Certainly not from the Bible. All these pastors of all these churches should gather together for one extended meeting with one of the Seventh Day Adventist pastors who have an advanced understanding of Prophecy. They can explain, Biblically, about these very vital, but most misunderstood teachings. As Christians, should we all not at least agree on When our Lord Jesus Christ is coming, the manner of His coming and How this most glorious event of all time will impact our lives, and the lives of all humanity?? It’s getting late, we need the Truth and nothing but Biblical Truth now. Soon, the time of great deception will hold sway and millions among us Christians may very likely be deceived. Let us study the Word and Pray earnestly for the Holy Spirit to lead us into All Truth. 🙏🏼🎺🎺🎺❤️

[@susankane8728]

I agree with Charles Spurgeon about Darby’s doctrine.

[@RaySanders-vp2ql]

@@susankane8728 Many Christians have been deceived by Satanic Donald Trump. They are putting their eternal souls at risk of hell fire.

[@Richard-f4b4r]

Without stating my opinion on this topic, preparing ourselves to meet God at any moment should be a prerequisite. My current body could end at any time through accident or other.

[@SaintDiaz]

The only thing is believe the Gospel. It's not like you die and lose salvation.

[@Paulusfan]

This is for sure : Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”

[@ST52655]

Amen!!!!!

[@007gracie]

That’s what I always think - work out your salvation ASAP because this life determines the destiny of your soul. It’s been 2000 years… every soul before us had to accept Christ as King before *their physical death*🙏🏻 I hope all those arguing are saved… 😖

[@arfermo853]

Amen to many argue over unimportant subjects,the important thing is grow in YOUR walk with God

[@pskarnaq73]

"First person plural, future passive indicitive" was the most complex item of this entire video 😂😂😂

[@maximilianusofmarchaorient596]

Latin is a beautiful language to learn

[@Earl-z3t]

Don't forget the Passive Paraphastic.

[@b213videoz]

Only for americans

[@modestoca25]

@@maximilianusofmarchaorient596 yes it is

[@mehrcat1]

I thought that passive and indicitive were opposites and therefore contradictory. (It has been decades since my last Latin class.)

[@NeilTheCatholic]

Recently discovered your content, and I must say you have been hitting home runs for a while. Thank you, brother! A grateful Catholic!

[@ReadyToHarvest]

Thanks Neil!

[@edwardtelles1956]

Catholic !!! Do you know what the word Catholic means ❓ It has nothing to do with that group centered in Rome... But I Digress...

[@Phillip-n3g]

In not Catholic but have many Catholic friends and find them to be most gracious.

[@edwardtelles1956]

@@Phillip-n3g being Gracious , Human Good Works , Praying to Mary . Catholicism is just another Man made religion... I've attended many funerals for family members who were catholic , and not One of them considered Jesus their Lord and Savior. In fact , some of them outright Hated God... But because they were "Infant Baptized" they went Directly to Heaven... And don't get me started on Purgatory...✝️

[@ktl4539]

Catholics worship bread.

[@johndorsch5435]

From George Mueller, a founding member of the Open Brethern: "My brother, I am a constant reader of my Bible, and I soon found out that what I was taught to believe (by Darby’s Doctrine) did not always agree with what my Bible said. I came to see that I must either part company with John Darby, or my precious Bible, and I chose to cling to my Bible and part from Mr. Darby". Enough said!

[@lindsay-ontario]

George Mueller did an excellent job looking after the orphans left on the cruel streets of London, but he was wrong about John Darby. The pre-tribulation rapture was clearly taught by the Apostle Paul and it is in my precious Bible 1 Corinthians 15:50-58 and 1 Thess. 4:13-18. Not knowing when Jesus is returning should motivate all Christians to do the best they can sharing the gospel message everday. You might want to check on the Welsh Revival and the rebirth of the Pentecostalism. Many Signs and wonders accompanied this movement with many missionaries sent out to Africa, India, China and others. Check out 2 early missionaries to Belgium Congo, William FP Burton and James Salter. Amazing men of God proclaiming the good news of Jesus Christ.

[@sonsofliberty3081]

​@@lindsay-ontario that's cringe worthy. If you read your Bible, you'd see that every single reference to the rapture is AFTER the tribulation, never before. Mathew 24, mark 13, luke 21. Jesus was giving instruction on how to run the church right BEFORE he tells us about the rapture being after the tribulation. 2nd thes is another. In Corinthians Paul speaks of a mystery, in revelation the mystery of the Lord is revealed when Jesus returns with his angels and flaming fire to take vengeance on the wicked. Sound like pre trib? Revelation 19 the bride is made ready AFTER the tribulation. Rev 20 is the FIRST resurrection and is clearly AFTER the tribulation. Days of lot, the same day he was brought out was the same day as the destruction. 5 of the virgins ran out of oil and wete cast out, not given 7yrs to get more. The servant who was doing what he was supposed to, his master was well pleased. But if that SAME SERVANT was beating the maids and drinking with the drunkards, he would be cut into pieces and thrown with the unbelievers. Where is the 7yrs to get right? We could be here all day. Point is, if you read your Bible, ther is absolutely no possibility of believing in a pre tribulation rapture. You need someone to be in your ear tell you it's pre trib. It's so clear.

[@markthern]

Thanks for sharing this - best quote on the (misunderstood) reality of the rapture.

[@bugsocsollie1694]

Yes, Paul said there will be guys like you who leave sound doctrine for fables. It sounds much more harsh than I meant it. I am only trying to convey that I'm not in agreement with you. Even most Dispensationalist do not know where to draw the line between Israel's doctrine and Paul's doctrine for the Body of Christ Church. So eventhough they believe in a pre Israel's 70th week rapture, they try to prove it by what Jesus was telling the Disciples. Jesus was teaching the Disciples to endure their 70th week as good servants (wise virgins). Jesus was not talking to the Body of Christ Church. He sent Paul to do that. Consider what Paul says, and it makes so much more sense. 2 Tim 2:7

[@benny-yj7pq]

@@lindsay-ontario China is a good example, that will happen to all Pentecostals that believe in Pre-trib Rapture. The Lord will come back at the 2nd coming 1000 years before the end of the Millennium. This is the First Resurrection of the NT Saints (1.Thess 4:16; Rev 20:4-6). The Resurrection of the NT Saints happen at the next resurrection (parousia 1.Cor 15:23+24). This is after the Tribulation, Paul says 3 resurrections with the change to immortality and not four. You add the fourth resurrection, there is no one before the Tribulation, it is Pre-trib intervention. The First resurrection is for all believers including the ones in Tribulation, they are blessed and belong to the bride. In china they were told that they will not be persecuted, but before raptured. That did not happen.

[@CenterPorchNP]

I look at it this way. Scripture says to endure to the end. And it doesn't matter to me when He comes back (pre,mid,post). I just need to be sure I'm ready when he does.

[@davidwilkins5932]

Essentially, that’s it. I’m pre- everything, and after being a Christian for 53 years, I’m quite comfortable with those views. But my goodness, people have become such flammable jerks about the subject, that I greatly avoid the topic. It’s a difference of interpretation of events, not “heretical” teaching, one way or another. And it’s NOT a salvational matter. I agree that the Left Behind business (and it did become a business) was the worst thing that could have happened to the issue.

[@philiptweet5970]

You are not they or he in context of those that would endure to the end in mark 13.

[@bugsocsollie1694]

Revelation also shows that some in those 7 churches will be spared the time of testing, and some will not. Paul tells the Body of Christ Church that WE ALL will be changed in a single moment, whether we are dead or not. Let that sink in. (Hint: it's two different doctrines that need to be rightly divided between to make any sense)

[@007gracie]

@@davidwilkins5932I agree. But I ask myself - why is it flammable? It’s the one issue that draws huge insults & literal vitriol. If it is indeed our blessed hope, we can expect satan to hate it more & more the closer it gets. The vitriol cements my belief in it:) The Left Behind series & Late Great Planet Earth saved MANY!!! I love those books. Let them scoff- The truth is like acid to the devil… doesn’t matter how we present it. Have a terrific New Year!🎉

[@HartyBiker]

Ahh, so you're a pan-millenial. As in: it'll all pan out in the end 😉

[@Donk6975]

I was raised Pre-Trib, didn't know any other position existed, after understanding the other various viewpoints and studying God's Word I hold my Pre-Trib position even more firm. I was not aware of any of the "reasons" or people that promoted this version of eschatology, i became pre trib and remain as such because I've read God's Word and believe what it says. Regardless if i'm right or wrong, Jesus' return is imminent, He will put down satan and the last enemy death, He wins, I will be with Him for eternity....call that my view

[@Daniel_the_prophet_1984]

Luke 21:8 Jesus was warning us that (many will come as believers in HIS name) claiming the time is near (referring to His second coming, and says ((do not follow after them (do not follow their teachings.. Jesus was warning us before hand that many would claim to be believers Claiming His return is (imminent) when in fact (Rev. 16:15) says, BEHOLD, YESHUA (JESUS) comes as a thief, Jesus comes as a thief to those who are not pure and holy in HIM, which will happen at the Sound of the Last trumpet! Jesus second coming is as a thief to those who are not right with HIM and is at some point after the river Euphrates river drys up according to Revelation. 16:15. Pre tribulation teachers are false prophets that Christ warned us of.

[@Firebert79TA]

So the end of the age will come at the third coming of Christ long after the second coming of Christ? Have you read the Bible in its entirety?

[@steveellis7174]

I also am pre-trib. After watching this video, I realize that when the RCC, Mormans, and JWs hold in common that the rapture isn't scriptural, I'm even more firm in my convictions.

[@afriquelesud]

Rather read what Jesus said in Matt 24, confirmed by Paul in 1 Cor 15. If you trust your Bible, then follow it.

[@mikemmarshall8201]

Per trib is plainly stated as fact in the bible

[@johanvandersandt8904]

Your opening statement is so true haha. I grew up Dutch Reformed/ Pentecostal and when I heard of Catholics I thought no way these people exist. Turns out not only do they exist but they are some of the nicest people I know.

[@Liethen]

@MarkStein-v4jI thought they were fictional until I was 10 years old when my grandma informed me that Hollywood didn’t invent them as a stand in for television to avoid offending any real religions.

[@DiamondKingStudios]

@MarkStein-v4jAs a Catholic from the United States, I still have the mentality of us being a minority religion, rather than the largest organization on earth.

[@johanvandersandt8904]

@MarkStein-v4j In South Africa Catholics are rare, in the town I grew up in there was only one church and I was told those people are weird. They worship statues and pictures and throw themselves on the floor. Needless to say when I started researching other denominations I found out that that wasn't true at all. I was older than 30 before I even knew of the Eastern Orthodox. 😅

[@johanvandersandt8904]

@@Liethen Haha! Imagine!

[@georgekustner3440]

Matthew 24:36.... so, I don't worry about any end times. I live like "Thy will be done".

[@FloydHershey]

After much studying I have become a pan-millennialist. It will pan out the way God wants.

[@Belief03]

A non-committal way out, showing worldly attitude. Pick a path and base it on scripture.

[@Phillip-n3g]

​@@Belief03ok. Read Hebrews 9 verse 28 and Matthew Henry's commentary on the whole Bible complete and unabridged.again after reading that and more.there is no way I will believe in works of fiction......

[@carolj.3175]

Old joke

[@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436]

That is a completely ignorant, unbiblical statement. Repent of your fake christianity!

[@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436]

@@Belief03 ,...Correct, this person has only exposed their lost, unsaved, deceived condition.

[@audesigns42]

In my experience discussion of end times views can get toxic and controversial quickly. Thank you for an AMAZINGLY UNtoxic explanation.😊😊😊 You truly have a God given gift for teaching😊😊😊

[@ReadyToHarvest]

Thank you, Andrew!

[@kurtweiand7086]

You did a great job of explaining those denominations beliefs in the rapture! Thanks

[@Dilley_G45]

It really is a secondary issue as historically nobody was affected and most of us probably won't. That being said....when the orthodox and Catholic and Lutherans and Anglicans all agree on things....I'm sure it's more biblical than 19th century innovations form America

[@70AD-user45]

​​@@ReadyToHarvest The Parousia (second coming) was in 70 AD, at the end of the Old Covenant age. It was spiritual, "on the clouds of heaven", not a physical second coming. Covenant Eschatology is true. Christ returned "on the clouds" to close down the Old Covenant. Explain the imminent time statements in the New Testament before you refute Preterism.

[@Beez-k7v]

​@@kurtweiand7086this is a very good explanation. That said, the complexity of the doctrine of premillennialism as well as the rapture reveals its error. I don't think Jesus meant to make belief in him nearly so complex as to be incomprehensible.

[@lanmarknetworking3034]

But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.

[@dwightsmith5174]

No mention of week, month or year...... hummmm. I don't like to assume. Yet so many do.

[@libbyd1001]

An interesting presentation on this very subject: "Did Jesus Really Not Know the Day or Hour? Isn't He GOD?" kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3nCgKmVi51si7csi=4Ge33FLvMr19rEai

[@user-uu2rf8ev7z]

Refers to a Jewish idium. The first day of the next month begins when two witnesses observe the new moon in the sky. If the moon is concealed by clouds or smoke (Jerusalem burning) it may not be visible today or at this hour. We will definitely know the season as the second coming will occur on the Day of Trumpets (first day of the 7th month) and everything will be complete on Day 22, the Great Last Day. But 99.9% of so called believers are unaware of the Feast Days of the Lord, preferring to follow a pagan calendar with pagan holidays, so confusion abounds.

[@Combat_Pyro]

The day and hour He’s speaking of here is NOT the rapture IN THE AIR, it’s of His return TO THE EARTH in power and glory. Here He sends out HIS ANGELS to gather the HIS ELECT. The rapture occurs IN THE AIR, where CHRIST calls us up to HIMSELF to meet Him IN THE AIR.

[@Dilley_G45]

​@@user-uu2rf8ev7zjudaizing heresy

[@MO-bo2du]

One thing I've noticed consistently is that online amills are often very nasty and smug towards pretrib believers. It's extremely offputting to me. I was taught at a dispensational seminary, and although I've become more of a historic premil myself, I tend to empathize more w pretribs bc, as I already noted, they are the group that seem far more likely to approach this issue the right way (as a secondary issue and with kindness towards those with other views).

[@stephensmith7597]

I'm amill sorry to hear you've been subjected to nastiness. It's a non essential doctrine and is not essential to salvation. If you claim the real Jesus as your Lord and Saviour I'm your brother , blessings

[@wnorwood1]

That's interesting... I've heard the opposite with one somewhat high profile pastor calling those who don't believe in the rapture "pathetic" and even questioning their salvation 🙄

[@jimyoung9262]

I came up in an organization that taught the rapture and it wasn't until later that I was even aware of other views. When I started trying to learn what others had to say, I noticed a similar toxicity among some amil folks. I mean, I'm trying to learn about what others teach, thanks for calling me an ignorant heretic. That said, they may have a point. I honestly don't spend too much energy on eschatology anymore.

[@callumisnotaturtle]

Dispensationalism is more than just an eschatology it’s a harmonic that takes away from the work of Christ and twists scripture and is just filled with blatant lies. I see that as pure evil, so yeah I’ll fight against that.

[@robertkeller9828]

​@@wnorwood1He's right. SCRIPTURE says what it says. Man is who always tries to say differently. As I mentioned earlier, The Southern Baptist organisation ridiculed those who speak in tongues as uttering gobbleegook. That Healing by the Laying on of hands is ancient history. THAT preaches total body immersion is the only form of Baptism. Maybe because the SBC only got big because of its political and social talking points JUST prior to the Civil War. It looked down its long, snooty nose at Pentacostals, Baptism of The Holy Spirit, Laying on of hands, Speaking in Tongues, and even someone uttering "Amen" to the preacher's words. I remember their biggest fear was a black person showing up at the church door on Sunday morning to come worship. They even had a pre-planned "Course of Action" in the event that happened. See, blacks were supposed to stay put in the little mission built just for THEM across town! My Mom took us out of that haughty congregation at an early age. Our Dad continued to go but only because his mother and the rest of the family had a "tradition". I believe what THE BIBLE...WHAT GOD SAYS. VS what man says every time!

[@richardlahan7068]

Too many people get distracted by eschatology, and the timing of the end times rather than keeping our focus on what we as Christians are supposed to be doing now and how Christ wants us to live now.

[@Phillip-n3g]

200% correct.

[@Beez-k7v]

Darby was the worst about that. He separated himself and his followers from the body of Christian believers. In short, he was a cult figure.

[@mbfrommb3699]

I don’t totally disagree however. Eschatology makes up over 1/3 of Scripture, the Lord has dedicated entire books and numerous chapters to the topic. Bible prophecy which eschatology is a sub category of makes up over 70% of Scripture. Where we learn the rules of interpretation based on what has already been fulfilled in the past. Eschatology also interacts with every doctrine we believe in including salvation. For example if we are at the end of the age then if you notice most popular “dispensationalists” share the gospel a lot. Many for decades did it every week time their tv program aired. The Left Behind series although doctrinally questionable presents the Gospel many times with many characters in the series. Far too many Christians today can’t even clearly define what salvation is or how we are saved. People are imperfect and so we have all sorts of ideas especially as biblical literacy has fallen off a cliff. The truth is that 2 Cor 5, 2 Peter 3, etc tell us this world is dying. And Jesus talks at length about how we will destroy it by war and how humanity brings His wrath and that He destroys a large part of it Matthew 24:36-44, Rev 8-9. Whether the Rapture occurs tomorrow or 10 years from now what we are seeing is that the world is actively preparing for war and we are seeing the most advanced weaponry humanity has ever created. Humanity has never not used a weapon it has created for an advantage in war. So whatever your Eschatological view is realty is what shows us the truth of prophecy. Never before have we faced a global pandemic massive inflation now entering a global depression and preparing for global war all at the same time. To me there’s biblical truth in that.

[@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436]

The focus of a Christian is to understand the Bible. If anyone has anything to do with any church or with anything that claims to be Christianity, they have NO understanding of the Bible.

[@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436]

@@Phillip-n3g ,...Repent!

[@bernardliddington2633]

Thank you for putting so much time into researching then presenting so clearly and visually sharp.

[@jenniferburns2530]

In my Catholic upbringing, including 5 years of Catholic school, I never heard about the concepts of Rapture or Tribulation. When I first came into contact with Pentecostals and Evangelicals, I had never read the book of Revelation and had no idea what they were talking about. My beliefs continue to focus on living a life of love and kindness, with an emphasis on charity and social justice. "Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me" always seemed more important in how I live my life.

[@DiamondKingStudios]

Same but twelve years in my case. Never mentioned by my mother, the priest at Mass, or my teachers. Only learned of such a term from media seeking to represent an average Protestant family (United States).

[@astutik8909]

The reason you never hear of it, is , 1, you dont actually read your bible. 2, catholics focus on heaven going. The bible however, teaches a physical resurrection of the dead, in both old and new testaments. 1 Thessalonians 4, verses 13 to 18. When exactly? 1 Corinthians 15 v 23. This is what is referred to as the " rapture". However, most falsely interpret this as going to heaven at that time, and escaping " the tribulation". The tribulation here, is escaping Gods wrath, which is not for the believers, but the unbelieving world. The tribulation spoken of in Revelation, has, I believe, already occurred. The tribulation of the saints. A completely different " tribulation" .

[@JRBWare1942]

If you want to find the Tribulation in Catholicism, read St. Robert Bellarmine's writings on the Antichrist and the End Times.

[@boltvanderhuge4007]

I keep hearing that Catholics invented Futurism, so the Pope would not be seen as the antichrist anymore. Reformers all harped on that.

[@sm126878]

Jesus instructed us to pray the prayer in Luke 21:36 every day. Have you ever heard a priest lead you in this prayer? Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

[@susankane8728]

Truly, Mr. Speaker, you have done an amazing job of researching all these church’s views on these vital subjects. BTW, you have the gift of speed talking, so as to get this wealth of information relayed to your audience in short time! No doubt, a special endowment- a gift 🎁!

[@davidjanbaz7728]

Having gone to Biola University a pre-Trib Dispensational school that is also non Denominational : it doesn't require believe in this Nonessential Doctrine even through they teach it in their Bible classes. It's Not essential for Salvation and is NOT defined to the point of only one interpretation as a possibility. Something I don't worry about as God's plan will come to pass in HIS timing and our response to spreading the Gospel to all the earth.

[@ImmaPatato-l5o]

What in the Judeo-Christian bible IS defined to the point of one interpretation. I understand we are dealing in personal beliefs, and not facts, but if the criteria for biblical "belief" is common interpretation, than the whole Jesus story can be written off due to the massive differences and the inability to interpret the various versions of the story to make it logical. Considering the Judeo-Christian bible has been edited, plagerized, mistranslated, and misinterpreted should make every piece of text suspect. That is why the bible , in a nonreligious context, is considered a historical document and not an historical account. How do you know this interpretation of the rapture is "not essential for salvation"? Who gets to make that judgement? This is just more religious dogma and adult fantasy.

[@mytwocents777]

It does affect salvation to the degree that a false interpretation of end-times prophecy deceives believers as to the identity of the final antichrist: Not understanding who the antichrist is and thinking that he is not yet present at a time when he actually is, and, therefore, concluding that his mark cannot possibly yet be in effect, believers will be enticed to accept his mark unwittingly.

[@ImmaPatato-l5o]

@@mytwocents777 That makes sense to you? Doesn't the whole premise seem somewhat like fantasy. Perhaps we need to check some facts before we buy into magic, and supernatural beings. Maybe the guy that wrote this "prophecy " was on mushrooms or was kicked in the head. I think we will be O.K. from the antichrist and the evil mark until we figure out the truth (or lack thereof) behind the book in which this rapture story was written. You people are terrifying.

[@zelenisok]

I know this might be a super complex and big project, but it would be great if you did an in-depth explanation of how (partial) preterists, historicists, idealists, amils, and postmils interpret the timeline given in the book of Revelation, ie the seven churches, seals, trumpets, spiritual figures, bowls, and the aftermath judgement, what these things refer to according to them.

[@quinnjohnson9750]

I second this!

[@kwpctek9190]

Easy. Just rightly divide brother! (ortho-tomeo = straightly cut, as opposed to "correctly handle" in new Bible's). Paul meant business instructing Timothy to separate truth given to Israel, from truth given exclusively to the Body of Christ, of which he considered himself the "master builder". When we observe the BoC was kept a mystery (hidden in God) until Paul, we know we MUST be removed before *Israel's prophecy program* picks-up where it left off. BTW, I do like your suggestion, but Joshua is not a right divider. Yet.😂 Thousands of RD churches world-wide (outside the GGF) are working on it.

[@earlsiebold536]

You read the Book of Revelation as history not prophecy. The tribulation ended in 70 AD. Revelation was written 20 years later.

[@larrymcclain8874]

Partial preterists basically believe that the Book of Revelation deals with the defeat of the listed enemies of Christ and His church. These enemies, empowered by Satan will try to destroy Christianity. The Jews (harlot) were the first to try to wipe out Christianity, beginning with Stephen, but they were defeated in 70 AD when the Temple was destroyed, and biblical Judaism ended, (replaced by Rabbinic Judaism). The Temple will never be rebuilt. The Roman Empire (beast) came next, with its demand for all citizens to worship their Caesar as God (false prophet), but they were overtaken by Christ and His church by the 4th century, leading to the destruction of the beast and false prophet. Since that time (millennium), Satan has been held back, and Christianity has been allowed to progress and has dominated the world. We currently are apparently still in that phase, but near the end of all things, Satan will be allowed briefly to try to destroy Christianity once again, and evil will also increase abnormally in the world. Some believe we could be entering that phase right now. Before this progresses too far however, Satan will ultimately be destroyed at Christ's second coming, when judgement then takes place. All of Christ's enemies in time will fall, and His kingdom will prevail throughout eternity.

[@larrymcclain8874]

Rev. 17 tells when this was written. Five kings (Caesars of the Roman Empire) have fallen, Julius, Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, and Claudius. One king is - Nero. Nero died in June of 68 AD, so it must have been written by this time. It charts the defeat of the enemies of Christ, namely those enemies who attempted to destroy Christianity, beginning with the Jews, whose Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. Then the collapse of the Roman Empire with its forced worship of the Caesar as God. By the fourth century Christianity had become the dominant religion of the Roman Empire, ending the forced Caesar worship. The final enemy to be destroyed will be Satan himself, and this happens at the end of all things when Christ returns. Satan's demise is however an ongoing process, and is depicted symbolically as the millennium, when Satan is prohibited from destroying the church. He is given a brief reprieve at the end, but when Christ returns, Satan is destroyed. Judgment occurs, and eternity begins, with Christ and His Kingdom having defeated all enemies. This is typically referred to as the partial preterist point of view, with an amil position on the millennium.

[@Branden-tr9lh]

Imagine believing in a pretribulation rapture, then tribulation starts and nobody's been raptured. Now Imagine being prepared to face tribulation and expexting it but being ruptured before it happens. Which is is more harmful?

[@edbaker7490]

Exactly.

[@Richard-f4b4r]

No matter one's position, we should be prepared to meet God at any time.

[@nicolassanchez2292]

A great point. If anything, Satan would like nothing more than for Christians to be unprepared when the tribulation begins.

[@OneHunnitNoCapStannitOnBidnisz]

It is not harmful because all who have been written in the book of life from before the foundation of the world, whom are predestined to be irresistibly called to Christ, justified, sanctified, and glorified in the future, will all be saved and Yahweh’s plan will always come to pass.

[@peregrino9154]

@@nicolassanchez2292How does one "prepare" for the Tribulation? Push ups?

[@carolynholody9281]

I really enjoy your videos. They are very well researched and easy to understand for the layman. Keep up the good work!

[@stevewhitson2006]

Thank you for this non-biased and objective presentation of what various denominations believe. I am reasonably knowledgeable in my own understanding of this subject but not very well informed of what others groups believe. Thank you, well presented.

[@robertdouglas8895]

"I am with you always." Jesus Christ....there's no waiting.

[@joshuas1834]

That list at 9:34... A lot more thought went into that than most people realize. Where each new row starts and how each symbol is ordered is absolutely perfect.

[@rhondahart2416]

Thank you for this comprehensive post. Have a blessed day!

[@sergloera]

Sir, that extremely simplified condensed theology, is absolutely beautiful.

[@venus_envy]

I'm still confused as to how Mormons and JWs even count as Christians. It's like taping a bunch of cats together when you need a horse.

[@AndrewRusherLDS]

The founder of Mormonism was a Christian and so were the earliest members. Are you also confused as to how Christianity is a denomination/sect of Judaism?

[@nonconformist4802]

@@AndrewRusherLDS Thanks for the laugh.

[@BlakeBaggott]

Sociologically, there’s no reason that they shouldn’t be classified as Christians. Jesus Christ is the central figure in both.

[@Phoenix21Health]

@@AndrewRusherLDSmormons teach Joseph Smith sits next to christ and judges people.

[@AndrewRusherLDS]

@@Phoenix21Health been LDS for 7 going on 8 years, first time hearing this claim

[@v1e1r1g1e1]

Thank you for this thorough, clear and unbiased presentation.

[@lukeunderwood163]

The fact that the pretribulation rapture theory was essentially nonexistent 200 years ago is all the proof you need that it is nonsense. Thankfully the belief is on the decline.

[@byrondickens]

Exactly. It was completely made up out of whole cloth by John Nelson Darby in the 1830s based on absolute misunderstanding of all the verses used as prooftexts for the idea.

[@kbro7484]

​@@byrondickensThis has been thoroughly debunked as it was spoken long before him. The information is there if you seek the truth.

[@James-p3m8j]

Did Jesus talk about a rapture publically?

[@James-p3m8j]

​@@byrondickens Wrong

[@kbro7484]

@James-p3m8j Matthew 24:40-42, Thessalonians 4:17. You really don't need more than that as it's common sense he won't release his wrath on his own children filled with the spirit of Jesus. If you have the holy spirit within you, God will protect.

[@thomassenbart]

The Tribulation and Rapture are modern constructs which never existed in Christianity previously. Much of Evangelical Christianity is so divorced from traditional Christian thinking, it essentially constitutes a new religion.

[@donhaddix3770]

false

[@thomassenbart]

@@donhaddix3770 True

[@thomassenbart]

The idea of a "Tribulation" - a period of severe suffering and testing before the return of Christ - is rooted in biblical texts, particularly Matthew 24, Daniel 9:27, and Revelation. However, the systematic idea of a defined seven-year Tribulation (often tied to Dispensationalism) emerged in the 19th century with John Nelson Darby, an English theologian and leader of the Plymouth Brethren. The concept of the Rapture, where believers are taken up to heaven before or during the Tribulation, is based on interpretations of 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 and 1 Corinthians 15:51-52. The term "Rapture" comes from the Latin word rapturo, used in the Latin Vulgate to translate the Greek harpazo ("caught up"). It was popularized by Darby in the early 19th century and further disseminated through the Scofield Reference Bible (1909), which became influential in Evangelical circles. The Tribulation and Rapture are central to Dispensationalist theology, which has been embraced by many Evangelical denominations and movements, especially in the United States. The concepts gained further prominence through popular media, such as Hal Lindsey's book The Late Great Planet Earth (1970) and the Left Behind series by Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins Outside Evangelical circles, the Tribulation and Rapture are not central or widely emphasized. Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy focus on the Second Coming of Christ and a general resurrection but do not teach a pre-Tribulation Rapture. They interpret relevant biblical texts allegorically or within a broader eschatological framework. Many mainline denominations (e.g., Anglican, Lutheran, Methodist) also reject the literalist and Dispensationalist interpretation of the Tribulation and Rapture. They often view such ideas as non-essential or as modern innovations. Criticism and Controversy Critics argue that the Rapture and Dispensationalist interpretation of the Tribulation are relatively new theological constructs with no basis in early Christian teachings or the writings of the Church Fathers. Historically, Christian eschatology focused on the Second Coming and the Final Judgment without detailed timelines or a secret Rapture. Scholars debate the interpretation of the biblical texts used to support these doctrines, with many suggesting they are misreading or over-literalized views of apocalyptic literature. The popularity of these ideas in Evangelical spaces is often attributed to cultural factors, such as apocalyptic thinking and political anxieties, rather than to intrinsic theological merit. The Tribulation and Rapture, as understood in modern Dispensationalist theology, are relatively recent innovations that emerged in the 19th century and gained prominence through Evangelical Protestantism. They are not widely accepted outside of these circles and are considered peripheral or even unorthodox in Catholic, Orthodox, and mainline Protestant traditions. Their influence remains significant in certain cultural and religious contexts, particularly in the United States.

[@donhaddix3770]

@@thomassenbart Daniel and rev say 7 years

[@thomassenbart]

@@donhaddix3770 Neither Revelation nor Daniel explicitly describes the Rapture as it is understood in modern Dispensationalist theology, and their references to the Tribulation are subject to varying interpretations. Both texts contain highly symbolic and apocalyptic imagery, which has led to diverse theological understandings throughout Christian history. Many interpreters connect Daniel’s prophecies to Revelation, seeing the two texts as complementary but these are interpretations. So, Daniel 9:24-27: The prophecy of the "Seventy Weeks" is central to interpretations of the Tribulation. The "seventieth week" is often linked to a future seven-year period of suffering and testing. Daniel 7:25 and Daniel 12:1: These passages describe a time of great distress, often associated with the Tribulation. Daniel’s visions of beasts, kings, and end-times conflict are seen as foreshadowing the events of Revelation, for example: The "abomination of desolation" in Daniel 9:27 and 11:31 is often linked to events in Revelation 13. But the interpretation of these texts varies widely among Christian traditions: Evangelicals tend to interpret the Tribulation as a future seven-year period of suffering and place the Rapture (pre-, mid-, or post-Tribulation) as a separate event for believers. Catholic, Orthodox, and mainline Protestant traditions view the Tribulation symbolically or historically, not as a future event. Historicist and Preterist view the prophecies in Daniel and Revelation as already fulfilled in historical events, not predictive of the future.

[@bartdanison3236]

Good job as usual. I always appreciate the effort that you put into doing your homework.

[@byrondickens]

Growing up United Methodist, I had never heard of any "rapture" until I got roped into going to a Pentecostal church in my high school years. When I encountered it I thought it was the most bizarre thing I had ever heard of. Episcopalian now and the word doesn't even have an entry in the glossary on their website.

[@Kman.]

You were never brought the truth...hey, what can I say?

[@byrondickens]

@@Kman. The only thing you know about truth is how to spell it. "Rapture" and the dispensationalism garbage it belongs to is pure hogwash invented by people who haven't got the first clue about the sociohistorical context in which their grossly misunderstood prooftexts were written.

[@gh0st0nthealtar]

Lol, similar story for me. I was raised Lutheran and had never heard of any "rapture" of any kind. At my city's summer carnival, a church group marching in the parade was handing out pamphlets in goodie bags to children about the "end times" and how we would suffer in Hell if we weren't saved. Needless to say, pretty traumatizing LMAO.

[@johnbrowne2170]

United Methodist and Episcopalian are not Christian churches.

[@gh0st0nthealtar]

@@johnbrowne2170 >bruins fan opinion discarded

[@poeter14]

Growing up SDA we always heard about tribulation (normally focused on the Sabbath keeping aspect) and that the tribulation would be before Jesus second coming, the millennium would be up in heaven afterwards, then coming back to restore the earth

[@Phillip-n3g]

Are you still in the church? Have they put you out?.... please respond.

[@joshvarges9230]

all this vain doctrine just to deny that the saints are reigning in glory now

[@Phillip-n3g]

@@joshvarges9230 people love the wine of Babylon as they don't see nor hear, deception of the deceived is well at work.

[@sharoncrawford7192]

Keeping a certain day as your sabbath, has nothing to do with salvation.

[@dh4352]

@@joshvarges9230 Isa 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

[@laurenclark2081]

Great video! I was raised in a fundamentalist Baptist Church, where the rapture was talked about in almost every sermon. As an adult, I came to resent how they used fear tactics to manipulate people. Ultimately the reason I discarded this bit of theology is because Christ will have a second coming. The Bible does not mention a third coming of Christ. Thief in the Night anyone?

[@soulosxpiotov7280]

The Gospel begins with Fear of the Lord - 'fear' is useful, that is, God uses it.

[@2K.TajimaKazu]

Fundamental Baptist in Philippines are different. I was raised in a church where I experienced the same as you did. I still didnt left, now most of the pastor I know (fundamental baptist) are reformed and have diffrent views of end times.

[@ew8944]

This was a wonderful presentation, thank you so much.

[@paulmarkowski9794]

Interesting- thanks for doing this research.

[@shreewoodard6158]

Thanks!

[@alexsnyder2741]

I would love a good eschatology argument video as you alluded to at the end. Great content and visuals!

[@wyoed1]

I have enjoyed and learned much from your videos. You teach in a non-denominational view and let each individual choose their style and belief. Very well done. I applaud you for your presentation and form of ministering. GOD Bless you and your family. 🙂

[@mgy401]

FWIW: LDS don’t talk about a “rapture” using that word (and certainly not as a means by which the righteous avoid the difficulties that come before the Second Coming-rather, the idea is that the faithful gather to a holy city or series of cities-“Zion” or “stakes of Zion”-where they enjoy a measure of divine protection). But, for whatever it’s worth, LDS *do* believe that the faithful will be “caught up” to meet Christ when He comes. Is this common among mainline premillennialist Christians who disagree with the concept of a rapture?

[@Timetorideagain]

But don’t they also believe you are saved by works, and think there were books written by their church founder. Oh, and that Jesus is a brother of satan?

[@mgy401]

@@Timetorideagain Not wanting to threadjack too much, as I’m mostly interested in rapture-related discussion. But to answer your questions: a) There is certainly more of an emphasis on works as being an important element of a person’s becoming what Christ ultimately wants them to become. But there’s also a recognition that these efforts will never be enough and are both fueled by and ultimately dwarfed by Christ’s saving grace which is the sole instrument of salvation. b) They believe in extrabiblical scripture and an open canon, yeah; and they consider their founder and his successors to be prophets and apostles on par with Moses, Peter, etc. c) Sort of. LDS believe that fundamentally God the Father, Jesus, the angels (including fallen ones like Satan), and humankind are the same sort of beings and, at a fundamental level, eternal and uncreated. At the same time there is a belief that God the Father takes these other beings, refines them into a higher form, and offers them a process (“plan of salvation”) through which they can develop further and become fully reconciled to His own perfect and complete nature. Jesus and His Atonement are the lynchpin of this plan; whereas Satan is viewed as having fought against the plan-resulting in his fall from heaven for rebellion. I don’t know where this leaves the “Jesus and Satan are brothers” characterization. I mean . . . In the LDS view neither are “created” (not ex nihilo, anyways), but both started out as the same sort of being and both (along with the rest of humanity) were selected by God for further refinement. Satan drops out of the process before he has a chance to get a mortal body, whereas Jesus accepts His proposed role as Savior and is born on earth as God’s Only Begotten Son. So, make of that what you will. :-)

[@BeachandHills-hb2pq]

@@mgy401Thanks for your response about what you beleave and were taught. Now to the original question I’m Church of England . I read revelation and follow the narrative as given. The priests who taught me the same and follow the narrative. Simple idea is history repeats and persecution happens and civilisations fall. The pattern keeps repeating. Relelation also describes the biggest and most important Armageddon. Again the pattern repeats but this time Israil has returned. We have weapons that can melt the mountains. Army’s could possibly march acrss the great rivers to invade a country called Israil. Now in lots of western countries the theology teachers have seen this unfolding. Christians are now less than 50% of the population. Even priests are being arrested for quotes of the Bible. The teachers says Christian’s should band together. Move to live near each over. Take over regions and towns. Elect Christian politicians or become leaders. They now talk on YT about this or teach it at the seminary. All new stuff

[@BeachandHills-hb2pq]

@@mgy401Called the Benedict option. Other movement are the reconqista and take back society. All the evangelist churches seem to be converting pepole and spreading the word like they have been as normal. Like I said new for us but a repeat of history for the older churches. Hope my reply helps. (Edit to read better)

[@franklinbumgartener1323]

Brother, these are good videos. Thank you for them.

[@ericdanielski4802]

Interesting video.

[@KristenG380]

Thank you for such an exceptional and thorough explanation of this topic. I appreciate your unbiased and research based approach!

[@eclipsesonic]

I'm Premillennial in my Eschatology, but I am on the fence with this issue of the timing of the rapture. I used to be Pre-Trib, then I was Pre-Wrath and now I'm not sure. Regarding this issue, it's important that as Christians, we never treat this issue as an essential one and that we don't miss the wood (forest) for the trees. What binds us together as believers is not WHEN the Lord is coming back, but that He is coming back for His saints, to deliver us from sin, corruption and His wrath at the resurrection and that He will come back to judge His enemies. That's the hope we have as believers, not the timing aspect or whether the coming happens in different stages. Remember, the Jews in Jesus' time misunderstood the nature of the Messiah's first Advent, the same could happen with Christ's second Advent.

[@metapolitikgedanken612]

To me it's pretty clear that the 'gathering of the elect' (rapture, if you want) is 'after the Tribulation' of those days and in close proximity to the second coming of Christ. No idea how people can get the idea that there is a 'secret rapture' seven years above it. Pointing pretribbers on this is mostly pointless, since they will defend that position with quite some effort simply shifting meanings of NT-Text to fit their purpose... That's actually the more concerning part there...

[@TVHouseHistorian]

I LOVE this comment. It’s so grounded in truth and love. I strive for that in my walk. Thank you 🙏

[@edbaker7490]

@@metapolitikgedanken612 Yes it is that clear, you are right. I found a channel 'follow the lamb today' that shows exactly that (post-trib/pre-wrath), you may be interested in. I think the rapture video I remember is called 'greater exodus'

[@jimmiller3734]

Cool video! I wont remember all of that, but it was very interesting!!

[@danlin8662]

Rare to see the Local Churches and Witness Lee mentioned. Would love to see a video on them.

[@SeekingTheTruthInLove]

Yeah, I just know they are super hard to pin down when it comes to doctrine. They often hide behind “the common faith” while also teaching things like Witness Lee being the “Minister of the Age” with no other ministers to come before the end of the age. This would never be on a doctrinal statement for fear of scaring new members away, but listen to any message spoken in the church today and it will likely be in there.

[@danielmaher964]

If someone is here on earth that can be converted for Christ, then I want to be here for them no matter the tribulation

[@pathless951]

Can you do a video like this but with the topic being dispensationalism? I'd give it a like!

[@liisalausanne5088]

A lot of churches do not teach about the Rapture.

[@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436]

The only thing all churches should teach about the rapture is that it is a 100% fake manmade fraud. And that no Christian believes in or thinks there is a rapture.

[@garymiedema642]

Excellently presented. Thankyou.

[@rtel123]

Jon Stewart was interviewing a Dem congressman when they had the majority, and still had trouble passing legislation. Jon said "like, what if the rapture were to happen and all the Republicans were to disappear?"

[@soulosxpiotov7280]

If all Republicans were born-again Bible believing Christians, and we were all caught up to meet the Lord in the air, and if Democrats (the unsaved, then?) were left behind to go through God's wrath on earth- well, all I can say is that I'm glad the Father gave me as a gift to the Son, in that I was elected and predestined before the foundations of the earth, is all I have to say now.

[@cosmichrist]

Excellent video. Thank you.

[@nicholasshaler7442]

Amillennial Catholic here. There is nothing wrong with saying that there will be End Times, which include, for example, the rise of Antichrist and the return of Enoch and Elijah. In fact, that is the Catholic position, which I suspect other amillenialists share.

[@modestoca25]

Catholics do not teach about rapture...

[@thelasthandbook6704]

@@modestoca25 Well, there's the Three Days of Darkness, which though it has not gotten official Church approval is also not explicitly denied anywhere. Catholics are free to believe in it and to buy the pure beeswax candles which will be the only light that will work, etc. My aunt got annoyed with me when I asked how you would light the candles, since once Three Days start no light source would work. 😐

[@James-p3m8j]

But it is incorrect so who cares. Jesus spoke publically about a resurrection, Jesus taught Paul church doctrine personally, and Paul had to teach about the church rapture because they were ignorant of it. There are multiple raptures and there is no controversy if you understand 2nd Timothy 2:15 KJV

[@JRBWare1942]

St. Robert Bellarmine taught the necessity of the Tribulation. When Jesus returns, that's the end of Purgatory. The people who are still alive at His return will not be able to go to Purgatory. Therefore, they must suffer their purgation here on earth.

[@James-p3m8j]

@JRBWare1942 And all of that is sadly false teaching. Get rid of all traditions and extra biblical trash and study the scriptures. Catholic are based on mystery Babylonian religion among many others mingled with the bible.

[@Sagart999]

I have to admit I am amazed at the depth of your knowledge of the historical origins of all these denominations. Is this a personal/avocational study or a professional one?

[@aleguitarra]

Why all christian use same Bible and can't agree?

[@soulosxpiotov7280]

Some are wanting to go through the Great Tribulation, to show their persevering with God's help. "I'm not afraid of no anti-Christ, bring it on!"

[@Mike--WA7QZR]

Most of those Christians aren't getting their theology from the Bible. They get it from reading commentaries, music, Tee-shirts, preachers with agendas, a desire to have their ears tickled, etc. That's why they can't agree.

[@HartyBiker]

​@soulosxpiotov7280 and others of us believe that the great tribulation happened in the first century, and that Christ is already now reigning in His millenial kingdom, and will continue to reign until He has brought all His enemies under His feet, just like He said He would.

[@frafraplanner9277]

Rejection of the Catholic Church's authority will lead to that

[@aleguitarra]

@frafraplanner9277 Catholic church is worse thing that happened to Christianity

[@kawikaberthelette2628]

I appreciate your presentation thank you!

[@irefusebeastmark4728]

thank you for explaining

[@tlanthony827]

I am very impressed with the objective and informative research done by this podcast. Very well done.

[@geraldpolmateer3255]

John J. Collins noted that there were several 1,000 years stories. Matthew 24: 36-44 teaches "as in the days of Noah" which means in the days of Noah it was the righteous who remained.

[@veritastriumphantchurch776]

"Pray that you are accounted worthy to escape all these things" "For I have not appointed you to wrath" So who do we believe, you or Jesus?

[@Dstephens-q8x]

verit 776, i beleve jesus.

[@uncivilizedengr4873]

i never cared for this debate, but i'll believe it when i see it. :D in the mean time, that's some nice theories you got there ;)

[@salvatorfarms6811]

But you won’t see it!

[@davidyess1]

@@uncivilizedengr4873 You have expressed my opinion to a tee. The whole debate of timelines seems presumptuous and tinged with an appreciable dose of madness. People who subscribe to such beliefs have been predicting the end of time for centuries.

[@jacobso223]

I am a follower of pre-millenialism. I believe in rapture and the 7 years of great tribulation. I also believe that the meaning of millennium is equivalent to 1,000 years.

[@lynnglidewell7367]

I was raised in a conservative evangelical church which was Covenant Theology ( but not Predistination believers) they aren't Dispensational Theology believers. I'm speaking of the Church of God Reformation Movement of Anderson Indiana. So rapture and thousand year reign on earth isn't taught or believed. The places I mainly see these things believed are many type of Baptist and Pentacostal associated churches. Beyond them it's rare to find this belief in practice.

[@woody1320]

Excellent as always.

[@larsandrune]

Came to Christ at a calvary chapel church 40 years ago and pre-trip rapture was taught like it was common christian knowledge. Married into a higher church denomination and it didn't even exist.

[@benjaminrush4443]

As always - a Great Presentation covering the Subject Matter in the allotted time of Teaching. Thank you.

[@TobyCatVA]

Waiting patiently for my turn just to be part of the no explanation speed run group was disheartening. 😞☦

[@ReadyToHarvest]

Sorry! I'd like to use this format again, and when I discuss something your clan DOES believe in I am sure I will dedicate more time to it!

[@soulosxpiotov7280]

When we go through the air at superspeed when we meet the Lord in the air - you can be part of the speed run group then, I don't think the Harpazao will be 'slow.'

[@Kong-kg6ij]

Please keep going on this more in depth, one of your best videos.

[@DankusMemicus]

I was raised Pentecostal and didn't really look into eschatology. However, I always rejected the idea that the rapture will occur in my lifetime... why should we be so confident that the world won't become any worse than it is at this moment? Once I started looking into it, I marveled at how the idea of a pretribulation rapture ever became mainstream. I became post-trib for a few years before becoming postmillennial.

[@hismajesty6272]

Premil always rubbed me wrong, because it says God will remove the Church from the Earth before Jesus returns. God instituted the Church or teach the Gospel until He returns. It isn’t in His nature to remove people’s chance for salvation before the Judgment Day.

[@ivetterodríguez-j4k]

I never understood this pre-trib and post-trib confusion. Aren't we on the fifth or sixth seal by the time Jesus comes to ressurect the dead in Christ and the white robes. Wouldn't that be mid-tribulation? 🤔

[@HartyBiker]

Post mill just makes the most sense to me biblically, but also just in the way that God works in history. We've gone from 11 confused disciples to billions of Christians all over the earth, that sounds a lot like Christ reigning and putting all His enemies under his feet to me. The future looks utterly glorious with Christ as King of the earth!

[@DankusMemicus]

@@ivetterodríguez-j4k Mid-trib is also a theory in addition to those lol.

[@fingerzfrienemy2226]

The living God has given you the mind to reveal the intentions of religious folk. Thank you, sir. ❤

[@heatherfleetman3226]

Yes! I would love to see a video with the arguments for and against a pre-tribulation rapture!

[@robertkeller9828]

Satan especially would love it too.. Anything to shake the faith of Christians/discourage them.

[@GetUpGetUpGetUp]

35:23 You're right about that, to say i was surprised would be an understatement. Those next four denominations hit like a brick.

[@thomaswhite8822]

Another well done video. The whole concept of the rapture is, as you have said, no more than 150 years old. You will see nothing like this in the writings of the Church Fathers. It was created out of whole cloth to support the belief that the Bible is absolute fact without room for interpretation.

[@phogeysquatch]

I, a Baptist, have never heard of the rapture anywhere but online. If I believe that the resurrection, the second coming, and the end of time is all one event, does that make me an amillennial?

[@ReadyToHarvest]

Amillennialism and Postmillennialism would both be compatible with your statement.

[@CalvinistfemboyPatata89]

Yeahhh new video

[@riddlecolo8198]

Thanks! I would love a clear and concise argument for and against the different eschatological views.

[@maggiraggi]

Hi, Ready to Harvest, in Christ Jesus. Can you make video about how many Churches believe on the: “Trinity”, and which of those Churches do not believe on the: “Trinity”? Thanks from Iceland, Magnús Ragnar (Maggi Raggi), in Christ Jesus.

[@ReadyToHarvest]

Yes, that's a good idea. In the meantime, here's my playlist on Nontrinitarian denominations if you have not seen it: kzbin.info/aero/PLvi2eTRD7KTiyYVBhZf5gpvcXN5WMvAIA Also, next week's video is on nontrinitarianism, though not exactly what you've requested. So watch for that!

[@My_Preacher]

If Nicea​n Council was about Trinity vs Unity of God but why No such council was held on Rapture Theology vs Covenant Theology ❓️@@ReadyToHarvest

[@seancatherall31]

Great video!

[@astutik8909]

I Thessalonians 4 verses 13 to 18. 1 Corinthians 15 v 23.

[@ByzantineCalvinist]

Very thorough treatment. Thanks so much for all the work you put into this. I grew up in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church, which is officially amillennial, but we spent holidays with relatives in another state and worshipped with them at the Independent Baptist congregation where my mother was converted in her youth. Definitely dispensational with lots of end-times preaching. When I was 11, we began attending a Baptist congregation associated with what is now (inexplicably) called Converge. It was not dispensational, but there were members who were. When Hal Lindsey's Late Great Planet Earth came out, I was in high school. I read it and started reading similar books. I found them persuasive for a time, but when I was 16, I read the Bible straight through from cover to cover. I couldn't find in it what the dispensationlists claimed to find, including the secret rapture. So I Left Behind (!) that position and eventually returned to the Reformed position of my childhood. Incidentally, I think one of the authors of the Left Behind books was a member of the Baptist church of my youth, but I no longer trust my memory of this.

[@janellestoermer5479]

I'm Baptist, and I believe in a pre-trib rapture. I grew up under a pastor who talked about how it was probably about to happen at any moment. He'd say things like, "We will have a potluck next Sunday, of the rapture diesnt happen first." Or "We'll have our business meeting this afternoon, unless the rapture hapiens before then." When we would go out witnessing in the neighborhood, he'd ask people, "If the rapture happened, would you be taken or left behind?" A lot of average people had no idea what he meant. He was very preoccupied by the rapture. So I had this very imminent view. When I got my drivers license as a teen, I was terrified to drive unsaved friends, in case the rapture happened while I was at the wheel, thus caising a crash, killing my friend, without a chance for her to get saved during the tribulation. If a friend needed a lift, I'd silently beg God to withhold the rapture a few minutes while I got my friend home. Kind of funny. But I'm still a pre-millennial, pre-trib rapture proponent, reason being that I believe we need to take as literal a view as possible of scripture. I view this as important, but not essential, and have Christian friends of varying eschatological views. My only issue is when people (usually amillianialists) start making up motives for us pre-trib folks, such as saying we only believe in it because we're scared of the antichrist or because we think we're too entitled to suffer. Disagree with us if you believe we are in error here, but please don't assume you know our heart or motive. That is so disrespectful.

[@All_Things_Biblical]

I know many believers who have the same attitude -- grown from cherry-picking Bible verses. We should worship/ serve "in Spirit AND in TRUTH" (John 4:24) -- truth matters, we dare not ignore so much of the rest of the Bible.

[@dayofdevotion]

Thanks for quoting Dr Jack - he's a bit of a hero of mine

[@killpetty]

appreciate ur hard work, big dog.

[@chrissanfino761]

Thank you for mentioning the prewrath rapture which is hardly ever mentioned but I believe is the biblically accurate view.

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Jehovah's Witnesses changed their belief approx 10 years ago and now do believe in a form of rapture.

[@soulosxpiotov7280]

Wait what? Is the 'rapture' only for the 144,00, that is, those who are (1) male (2) Jewish and (3) are virgins in that they have NOT TOUCHED WOMEN ?

[@jonathanphelps1886]

I was raised in home that was Pentecostal and taught mid Tribulation Rapture but as of today I am Amillennial and no longer Pentecostal a year ago I became Presbyterian PCA

[@davidgobart3849]

Well as a reformed 1689 Baptist.... You are closer than you know. Hahaha.

[@fluffysheap]

I wasn't raised in the church. My father was agnostic and my mother was a new ager. But her father was a fundamentalist, so she taught me that all Christians believed this. On top of that, my father, despite being agnostic, loved "The Late Great Planet Earth." I didn't realize there were other interpretations until college! I'm now a preterist. 😊

[@modestoca25]

I bet this obsession with rapture (and its myriad definitions) will cause these evangelical churches to split even further into new denominations 😂

[@pixieburton3131]

@@modestoca25 Really, a secondary issue completely unrelated to Salvation. That’s what you think.

[@larrymcclain8874]

I think this has already happened.

[@modestoca25]

@@larrymcclain8874 probably lol

[@modestoca25]

@@pixieburton3131 You evangelicals are never happy and keep breaking up into more cult cliques...

[@davidwilkins5932]

Did you not see all of the denominations he listed in the video? It’s pretty brutally split already, and always has been. It can’t GET anymore split.

[@jeffking4176]

Most interesting. While I knew there were a lot of older denominations that believed differently, I did not know that “pre- trib.” Was actually loosing ground. ✝️🙏🙂

[@larrymcclain8874]

@@jeffking4176 Yes, partial preterist is gaining rapidly. I suppose when you make predictions enough times that don't materialize, such as Hal Lindsey and others, your former followers finally realize "by their fruits ye shall know them."

[@boogerie]

Lo a video about the rapture! Can a video about Christian Zionism be far behind?

[@jimyoung9262]

Yes please

[@nckoes]

​@jimyoung9262 Second this. My uncle got into this- he sincerely believed Israel was going to be nuked in the 80s to bring back Jesus. I'd love to understand more about all of this. I've always wondered where all of that came from.

[@Kishku7]

The Latter-Day Saints are post-tribulation Rapture (generally) and pre-tribulation rapture selectively. “At the Second Coming we will be caught up to meet him” is the general post-trib rapture. Selectively we believe in a doctrine called “translation”, with John the Beloved being the first example, and selectively to those who seek Him with all diligence. We believe that those who flee to “Zion” will receive a mid-tribulation rapture.

[@rconger24]

Hello Brother: _"And now I bid unto all, farewell. I soon go to rest in the paradise of God, until my spirit and body shall again reunite, and I am _*_brought forth triumphant through the air,_*_ to meet you before the pleasing bar of the great Jehovah, the Eternal Judge of both quick and dead. Amen."_ -Moroni 10: 34 "Hosannah!"

[@michaelblair5566]

I am Catholic. I serve God. When my time is up, it's up. No more, no less.

[@sandraatkins2539]

We were 40-plus years before we ever heard the term. You can't tell some of those people that they embrace beliefs that were created more than 1600 hundred years after Christ died. Some of their "doctrines" were created by ministers who were illiterate or semi-literate. To this day, many do not believe in receiving any sort of formal education. They know who they are.

[@billherman5161]

I would like to see arguments for the pre- mid- and post-trib views

[@edbaker7490]

A video I saw 'greater exodus' on the 'follow the lamb today' channel shows post-trib from Scripture, it's clear that's what's really going to happen

[@LLH7202]

There are some good videos on KZbin on this subject, a search should bring up some good ones. Also if you like reading books I can recommend "Three Views of the Rapture, Pre, Mid or Post Tribulational?" By Archer, Feinberg and Moo.

[@falconer15138]

I was caught up in this when I bought the book,"The Late Great Planet Earth". However with the passage of time, I discovered that things predicted in it were nonsense. For example, when the UK joined the Common Market, now called the European Union, it was implied there would be a union of ten nations and that would be the revival of the Roman empire. When we joined there were nine, then it shot up to fifteen, then it continued to increase. This made me re consider. I now think we need not heavy emphasis any theory, and we need to be ready for Christmas return. Behold I come like a thief in the night. Nobody expects a thief, and Christ warned that he he would come when he is not expected.

[@leviwarren6222]

I learned about a fourth millennial view in Bible college to which I currently ascribe: panmillennialism. It is the view that, and I'm only being a little bit cute, everything will pan out in the end.

[@jimyoung9262]

This has increasingly become my view 😉

[@soulosxpiotov7280]

How God starts the pre-trib pre-wrath timeframe, however He wishes to have it pan out - that's up to Him.

[@jeffking4176]

I remember a sermon by one of the most powerful Preachers I have ever heard , [ a Pentacostal], the sermon, “Rapture Faith Vs. Resurrection Faith. While he was “Pre-trib”, he was quick to make some points that the “timing “ may not be when we think, and that we may not [ individually] be around for it. Since no one knows how many days we have on earth, it’s best to have “Resurrection Faith “ ie: Be Ready, now, rather than “waiting “ on the Rapture. ✝️🙏🙂

[@markoconnell804]

The Bible does not teach a pre trib rapture. Daniel’s 490 year prophecy is completely finished not long after Jesus’s resurrection from the dead at 490 years. It is not an unfulfilled prophecy as the pre trib theory proposes. The rapture (harvest) takes place at the end of chapter 11 and also retold from a different point of view of the same event in chapter 14. Please read your Bible yourself.

[@loidapyle8238]

Thank you.May God bless 🙏

[@larryconner8825]

Confusion for the church created by John Nelson Darby and Cyrus I Scofield

[@larrymcclain8874]

Yes, first taught in the 19th century. A bit late, don't you think?

[@Gabyy-r4m]

AMEN! GOOD INFO.BRO.