Real Prophet-5 vs Arturia Plugin!

[@foljs5858]

You could at least try a little to match the patches... The first was't different just because of tone. The filter was totally different, a small change there would have matched the other way more

[@jackduxburymusic]

Both the Sequential and Arturia advertise that they include recreations of the Original “Factory” patches from the original Prophet 5. This is not our attempt at programming each to sound like an original, nor was it to make them sound the same as each other. Perhaps I didn’t make that clear enough at the beginning, my bad, interesting to see though how people clearly want to see the other types of video though. Thank you for commenting and perhaps we’ll have time to do as you requested in the future. ❤️

[@JureJerebic]

Yeah, the sounds were completely different, a bad comparison here

[@simple-human-being]

Issue is that Arturia’s Vitage Presets (the original ones) are WAYyyy off. I painstakingly matched them with the original and then they sound 99% the same. The filter is slightly off in some rare cases.

[@steveg219]

Very interesting, shows that at the end of the day you can make great sounds with whatever is within your reach

[@rich_in_paradise]

I know you addressed this in the video, but you really should spend some time getting the patches to sound closer when you do these comparisons. Otherwise you get the kinds of comments you see here were people assume that the software must be completely wrong, when of course it's going to sound different if you just put the same settings on the Prophet because it's analog gear and they all sound different. Dial it in by ear and then compare. I'm sure they won't sound exactly the same, but at least it'll be a decent comparison.

[@jackduxburymusic]

Both the Sequential and Arturia advertise that they include recreations of the Original “Factory” patches from the original Prophet 5. This is not our attempt at programming each to sound like an original, nor was it to make them sound the same as each other. Perhaps I didn’t make that clear enough at the beginning, my bad, interesting to see though how people clearly want to see the other types of video though. Thank you for commenting and perhaps we’ll have time to do as you requested in the future. ❤️

[@JonMurray]

I’m not trying to be a d|ck here but you literally start your first sentence by saying that you understand the video, then proceed to critique and criticise a video that you didn’t just watch. 😂

[@Cyprusg21]

That's what Arturia should've done. If I buy an emulator of an analog synth that claims to have the same patches as the original, I expect them to sound similar.

[@rich_in_paradise]

@@Cyprusg21 I'm sure the plugin does sound like the Prophet that Arturia had in their labs while they were developing it. But vintage analogue gear doesn't all sound the same from unit to unit, at least with the same knob positions it won't typically. That's my complaint. I get that Jack just wanted to compare them out of the box, but the comparison is misleading, as you and a lot of other commenters here are demonstrating.

[@everybodyhasoul5438]

To my ear it sounds like the main difference between the two in this video could have been bridged by a simple filter adjustment.

[@SteveRieck-Music]

it really is incredible what Arturia has created... at the bottom of the plug-ins there is a brightness and timbre control, which I find is often set a little too high to match the real presets, backing those off a little bit really warms up the patches in my opinion.

[@gcoudert]

You've just saved me £4k+. I'm very pleased with Arturia Prophet-5 V5 which, as a V-Collection 8 owner, I acquired for under £50.

[@christopherpederson1021]

If it sounds good to you, then why not. Except for one comparison, it was clearly obvious even my laptop speakers which was the digital.

[@flomarin2669]

Yeah me too, digital synth always has VCF more open than analog because analog is warm

[@gcoudert]

@@christopherpederson1021 True but within the context of a mix, it's pretty much impossible to tell.

[@enflans]

Do you happen to know if it's compatible with Native Instruments hardware? I have a Komplete Kontrol S61

[@gibsonflyingv2820]

@@gcoudert That's not how that works. Not all mixes are the same.

[@jackduxburymusic]

Both the Sequential and Arturia advertise that they include recreations of the Original “Factory” patches from the original Prophet 5. This is not our attempt at programming each to sound like an original, nor was it to make them sound the same as each other. Perhaps I didn’t make that clear enough at the beginning, my bad, interesting to see though how people clearly want to see the other types of video though. Thank you for commenting and perhaps we’ll have time to do as you requested in the future. ❤️

[@david-galindo-936]

Jack, I actually like the way you conducted this comparison and understood what you were doing. I really enjoyed listening to the variety of sounds and hearing all of your banter during the comparisons. It was entertaining and could tell you all were having fun with this. Keep up the great work! I love your videos! 🎹❤️

[@TOMLEW1S]

Probs also worth noting the Arturia Prophet is modelled after a vintage REV2, not the newer REV5 - so they'll sound fundamentally different based on just that.

[@alainthiry3965]

so you compare patches not two devices, it seems they can sound equally..

[@Geepstar]

It was clear to me. But I am a very bright individual. Haha. Thanks for the vid man! You know, my computer almost explodes from the VST's and still I am looking for hardware synths, knowing I hardly use them in projects (ok I only have 2 hardware synths for 3 months now) because VST's are so more easy to use. Synthmakers should make tools that Ableton (or any DAW) remembers patch& settings per project. Imho.

[@HerzAnalog]

It's so different. It's not a difference in quality, it's like a difference in tone.

[@ronnyb5890]

yep,a difference in tone,the real one is much duller,so whan you filter out some of the high end of the fake one they should sound fairly the same,cheers

[@Bati_]

You might presumably compensate for it with a well-applied EQ though...

[@Bati_]

@@ronnyb5890 Also please notice that, Arturia produces emulations and they extend the possibilities of the original ones, so to my understanding, they are not doing this for the sake of imitating the original ones with 100% accuracy but for providing more flexibility while preserving the spirit of the original synthesizers in question...

[@wayback1010]

​@ronnyb5890 filter it then saturate it, and it's basically the same

[@homeboy740]

To me it often sounds like it's a cut off thing. In comparison, the Prophet V sounds as if the filter were opened wider. Arturia does a good job. The characteristics match the original very well.

[@louisgerber65]

The Arturia V Suite saved me from bankrupty in two ways. 1 I did not have to chase or buy the originals 2 I did not have to build a new house to store all the hardware.

[@n8goulet]

And don't forget you saved needing to hire a road crew & truck drivers to get a suite of classic keyboards to a show if you gig. And that you didn't need to employ a good repair tech.

[@classicarcadeamusementpark4242]

@@jayandgem There is no doubt having the hardware version would win the "fun factor" contest. But as for recreating the sounds, the software versions are surprisingly capable. I feel the fun factor element would be the number one reason to buy a keyboard such as this in hardware format rather than software. But as mentioned, there are countless advantages to software. Economics, space & portability.

[@KNIGHTJUMPS]

Thank you

[@Answersonapostcard]

I would be happy with either personally, however, comparisons aside, once it is in the mix and with reverb etc no-one is going to tell the difference.

[@christopherpederson1021]

You could say that with any vst instrument really. Do you play for yourself, or how other people hear things?

[@Screaming-Trees]

@@christopherpederson1021 I guess from a composer/producer perspective it doesn't matter. A lot of that is about being convincing. How that happens is fugazi a lot of the time. I've faked guitars using a synthesizer. Faked it well enough so that a friend of mine that plays guitar for a living was convinced. Saying that however, I myself though would take the hardware. If you're interested in exhausting the potential of diminishing returns to its maximum then hardware is the only way to go. I think there is still an argument to be made for striving to actualize a work of art rather than just cranking out content. I think analogue is still better in certain areas. High register comes to mind for example. No matter how much anti aliasing you do analogue just sounds better in the upper registers. This is tangible and one area that can be exploited to make productions actually sound better. It is difficult exploiting the diminishing returns between plugins and hardware when you get into full blown productions because the plugins are so good nowadays but it is possible and I think there is still a lot that the hardware can do just that little bit better. There is of course the whole tactile thing with hardware. I've kind of grown sick and tired of moving my mouse around. The ergonomics of that kind of workflow suck and are ultimately pretty far from what playing music looks like. It is a necessary evil though. Who doesn't draw midi regions these days? I am tempering that with actually playing though. I prefer that. It can be difficult doing dotted bass lines by hand when you need tight grid performances though so you have resort to drawing midi sometimes. But yeah I think I'd take the hardware over plugins almost every time ultimately.

[@classicarcadeamusementpark4242]

A better test would be to try to tweak them to match up as well as possible, and then try to have people guess which was which. I've heard VST's that sound closer to the patches I'm hearing out of the real Prophet, but in this demo, there was no attempt to make them sound the same.

[@juliacamilla1511]

sure just like people would care which on was original on the recording......they don't give a flying fcuk

[@davidpringuer3553]

I agree the cutoff on patch one is very different

[@derekfernandez7701]

I love the Prophet sounds so much, this was amazing thank you! 3:17 I was so surprised by this one, the Arturia sounds so good here!

[@billyruss]

They were quite different... would have been good to have tweaked the Arturia so it was a little closer. But I got four out of five - missed the Sync one as well!

[@jackduxburymusic]

Both the Sequential and Arturia advertise that they include recreations of the Original “Factory” patches from the original Prophet 5. This is not our attempt at programming each to sound like an original, nor was it to make them sound the same as each other. Perhaps I didn’t make that clear enough at the beginning, my bad, interesting to see though how people clearly want to see the other types of video though. Thank you for commenting and perhaps we’ll have time to do as you requested in the future. ❤️

[@billyruss]

@@jackduxburymusic Thanks for the reply! Yea, I got the gist of what you were doing, it's just a shame that the recreations aren't as close to the originals as one might have hoped for (though, like the boys, I definitely prefer the Arturia Sync). And it was a bit more difficult than your Wurlitzer comparison from a couple of weeks ago - the real Wurli really shone through on that one, especially with your funky chops! Love listening along to these and trying to guess them - keep 'em coming (as an owner of both a Nord Stage and Yamaha YC, it would be great to see how these stack up against the originals). 🙂

[@whataniceday]

this is just nonsense. completely different settings, cutoff filter on software one is much more open

[@jesuslovestoastyaya]

So insanely different. I wonder if you could make them closer. Repro 5 is honestly so close, next time try that one.

[@LiveLaughLoveLift]

Was thinking the same thing, repro sounds so damn good.

[@luciano.armani]

@@LiveLaughLoveLift same. i found the repro much closer. (and also wouldve preferred a video with the same tone)

[@jesuslovestoastyaya]

@@LiveLaughLoveLift yea repro and diva are great

[@ronnyb5890]

did you turn off the enhancements in the software prophet 5, there was also a setting that you could switch between modern and analog oscilators,this would make a specific difference,on the software prophet 5, i deactivated the above chorus and analog delay wich are switched on by default,cheers

[@foljs5858]

He didn't even try to match the patches - never mind fientuning the oscillator available in the VST

[@JamesHoseaIII]

Love all the videos coming out recently! You're also including the falcon more and Oz as well. Great stuff all around, keep it coming!

[@TheChrisVella]

😁

[@joshuariggins4001]

he used the wrong presets on the hardware model. Bank 5 starts the original prophet 5 presets on the prophet rev 4 and that brass in the beginning would have been the same. so try patch 511 then compare that to the brass on the vst.

[@RayyMusik]

The Arturia doesn‘t sound bad, but they obviously put little effort in the faithful recreation of the factory presets. The ultimate VST P5 is the u-he Repro-5 anyway (incl. factory presets).

[@NathanChisholm041]

Wasn't that impressed with U-He vesion tbh!

[@JanSchultink]

It sounds like the Arturia filter cut off is not right. You should try to match them as close as possible

[@jackduxburymusic]

Both the Sequential and Arturia advertise that they include recreations of the Original “Factory” patches from the original Prophet 5. This is not our attempt at programming each to sound like an original, nor was it to make them sound the same as each other. Perhaps I didn’t make that clear enough at the beginning, my bad, interesting to see though how people clearly want to see the other types of video though. Thank you for commenting and perhaps we’ll have time to do as you requested in the future. ❤️

[@JanSchultink]

@@jackduxburymusic That would be a good comparison to do 🙂 Add an uh-e Repro 5 as well....

[@Navid0181]

The velocity in app is different, you have to fix that before video

[@endoflevelboss]

If the Arturia was more LP filtered it would sound very close, brightness down and more grounded

[@rockbubbles]

I wonder, and that goes for the oberheim as well, if part of the difference is down to velocity curves bveing different, rather than anything else.

[@rnedp760]

I agree Repro would have given a much closer compare - but I do have a comment about the ads, I don't know if it's just me, but there's loads more ads on your channel these days and it really interrupts the flow of a demo. Still, great vid as usual :)

[@JiveTalker78]

I typically roll off the highs on the Arturia P5, I prefer those duller/softer sounds.

[@deepnlow808]

I have a whole bunch of Sequential synths and Arturia V Collection. I’m not being a snob because I’d love them to be identical but the Sequential synths really do sound beefier. However Beefier is not always better especially when you are composing with a few synths. You can also really tell when you add some resonance and release and play a few voices in sequence. It does really pain me to say this because I would love an excuse just sell up and have a simple life.

[@sharikmarius]

Is the hardware Prophet a Rev 2? That's the version that Arturia modeled for their plugin.

[@SeanKabanuk]

I have a prophet 5 rev4, along with Arturia’s prophet 5 and U-he’s Repro 5. For my money, U-he nails it.

[@musicman8942]

Which Arturia version was used here? The latest one where they have sequencer selection buttons where the original (Arturia and hardware) had patch selection buttons?

[@H-4-D3423]

I think if you could filter either the synth, or the software beforehand (after choosing which patches to play for the guys), so that they sounded more "panel matched" - I think they'd have an even harder job picking them apart. Fun series though. Lots of value in the Arturia pack for sure. Gr8 vids as always.

[@wojtczyk]

Thanks for the blind-test, this was really interesting and insightful. They sound more different than I thought they would.

[@McSynth]

The only difference between the two was the filter settings.

[@KNIGHTJUMPS]

Another guy in the comments talked about warming up the patches on the Arturia. I wondered if there is a tutorial for this. You know, for us newbies.

[@e8root]

Looks like filter setting is wrong or the "real" prophet is faulty - if they make preset "helicopter" and it is missing anything resembling helicopter then it should raise some bells... and not FM bells.

[@Dombevi]

i have the prophet 5 rev 4, and it is really warmer and subtile. But when new OS will change and new V collection will change, you will have to buy again the software. The prophet 5 rev 4 will be still here and will sounds the same in 20 years.

[@jerryb.7021]

Sounds like just a difference in the EQ curve to me. But what do I know?

[@arthurmcevoy2799]

Love the content recently, stuff like this and the wurli video are awesome!!

[@soundmechanicssd]

Arturia need to do a bit of tweaking - they would probably sound identical then. Maybe for the vintage factory they copied the settings rather than the sound? Still sounds great though!

[@jettsom]

If you play only patches of course it can both sound good but that's not the point with the real one. Try manipulating the sound live while using aftertouch and velocity and we'll see if the VST is still on track.

[@BILLYMORGAN1971]

I don't have either but have to believe a Prophet V, being analogue, having knobs that sweep, is always going to be more subtle and nuanced, aside from your wallet. The Arturia has been around a long time now, you might even call it a vintage virtual instrument. I don't know if they upgrade it or tweak it but have to think in some ways it is what it is. It's THEIR interpretation. Certainly it's the same sort of argument one might have when selecting plugins vs hardware. Does it get you in the building? That is the question a lot of people might think that's the most important thing. A reissue Prophet V is $3600 plus tax and a darkened room full of lego pieces you must cross barefoot in the US. The computer is a given so after that it really comes down to the synth or a midi keyboard and potentially a whole suite of sounds to explore. That is one choice one can make. Arturia used to bundle their stuff. Personally I'd prefer the Synth because I'd want to blend it with other sounds I have like guitars and voice.

[@taosophymusic]

How weird. I was trust creating a track with the Arturia Prophet V. Nothing is as warm and buttery as a Prophet🤤

[@MiloCarrete]

🤤🤤

[@briann5001]

The take away from this test is that everyone’s an expert with there eyes, but the ears speak the truth and humble us to prove just how far tech has come and just how much it is indistinguable in audio quality from actual synths. The difference is only in the playing and tactile experience with the actual synth itself

[@entropybentwhistle]

If I remember part of the programming philosophy for the original Prophet patches was that the filter wasn’t fully open in a lot of the patches, so your expectation of more noise, fuzz, brightness, whatever isn’t going to be there vs. an emulation patch.

[@n8goulet]

It's just a matter of adjusting them the same. Not due to inability of software emulation to be able to make them sound the same. Software can be as noisy, fuzzy and as bright as you want. I've replaced even older, desirable vintage synths with VST's. Excellent alternative.

[@enflans]

Will this compatible with a NI Komplete Kontrol S61?

[@drsamurai009]

Pausing video before the reveal and I guessed the real Prophet 5 were sounds 1,2 and 5 (I think the mod wheel is what introduces the helicpoter effect but it's been a while since I checked that preset on my rev 3....) While I did guess correctly, IMO the two give aways are the brighter sounds in the Arturia need to have the filter closed a bit more to dull them up. I've dialed in very near identical sounds with the Arturia that I have on my old hardware P5. Sync and resonance are tricky to model correctly, espeically back to back, but the Arturia is a REALLY good virtual Prophet 5. Even with the hardware, the plugin sometimes is just right there and so close that in a mix, I won't worry about recording the original if I'm in a rush. Or if I need more voices in software...

[@quantumeseboy]

Wow, is this the best Arturia can do?? Not even close??

[@the25thhr41]

for theat helicopter patch would it sound mor esimilar if you slid the mod wheel on the p5?

[@muzicmanc945]

i got all but one right... the closest one is the U-HE REPRO

[@jubinroy4987]

Lower cut off on the virtual instrument to match both

[@lance134679]

Yeah, VSTIs arrived in their final form a while ago and can emulate analog synths perfectly. I don't know why I'd still rather have a big chunk of real (and expensive) analog hardware even knowing that.

[@shadynook86]

I think it's because when the sound coming from the synth is being generated by analog oscillators and circuits, that big chunk of hardware feels like a living thing you're playing. ⚡🎶 🎹

[@gibsonflyingv2820]

If you're deaf maybe sure, did we watch the same video? They sound utterly different. Also if they can emulate any analog synth why are so many missing? no polymoog 203a, no Moog matriarch or Moog grandmother. I could go on. So if it can do that why haven't they?

[@lance134679]

@@gibsonflyingv2820 I guess software synth makes do whatever they think will sell best, which is why there are at least a half dozen MiniMoogs but no Matriarch. There are a few surprises such as Cherry Audio that has an emulation of the Realistic ConcertMate MG-1, a Moog-inspired synth you could buy at Radio Shack back in the early '80s and hook up to your home stereo with the RCA jacks. 🎹😄

[@gibsonflyingv2820]

@@lance134679 The Moog grandmother is easily one of the most beloved synthesizers in history. You're telling me they didn't make a vst due to a lack of popularity? That's quite a stretch in logic. In reality the reason is because they couldn't

[@palewine]

What the heck, if you're gonna do a shootout like this, you gotta match the patches better. You can spend a little time dialing them in with. It's not that hard. There's no point in comparing these two when the basic sounds are so different. When it's a software emulation vs the real thing, we want to hear differences in tonal qualities, not significantly different starting points.

[@MrOuija-rr8kq]

I wish they had tried to make the presets closer to the original before they started the test.

[@klstay]

As stated by others time put into matching as close as possible instead of (maybe?) just matching knob positions might have yielded something closer. I would be interested to also hear a comparison with Repro if such an effort were put forth.

[@jackduxburymusic]

Both the Sequential and Arturia advertise that they include recreations of the Original “Factory” patches from the original Prophet 5. This is not our attempt at programming each to sound like an original, nor was it to make them sound the same as each other. Perhaps I didn’t make that clear enough at the beginning, my bad, interesting to see though how people clearly want to see the other types of video though. Thank you for commenting and perhaps we’ll have time to do as you requested in the future. ❤️

[@klstay]

@@jackduxburymusic ahhhh, thanks for the clarification; it is at least as likely you made this clear and I just did not (want to) hear it. I do believe there would be significant interest in a series where each "episode" focused on a few examples of a single type of patch with much tweaking effort to get as close as possible.

[@videomarknet]

This is so fun to watch...

[@david35197]

was it intentionnal to make them sound as different as possible? i swear ive never heard the arturia prophet sound so weird

[@jackduxburymusic]

Both the Sequential and Arturia advertise that they include recreations of the Original “Factory” patches from the original Prophet 5. This is not our attempt at programming each to sound like an original, nor was it to make them sound the same as each other. Perhaps I didn’t make that clear enough at the beginning, my bad, interesting to see though how people clearly want to see the other types of video though. Thank you for commenting and perhaps we’ll have time to do as you requested in the future. ❤️

[@lewchootrain]

Could we have some jam sessions where you just play with featured synths? Just love hearing the capabilities

[@E-1K]

Dire need for a low pass on the Arturia to get them comparable on a few.

[@freelancer8822]

I compared the Arturia Prophet plugin to the hardware and they are virtually identical. Send Arturia out through a Neve pre for added beef and in the mix there is no difference.

[@JonMurray]

The strings one man. This will sound like a criticism but it’s not meant to be, the software sounded less like strings so I would’ve went for that being the analogue if that makes sense? Like old school trying to make string sounds but actually making a kinda accordion sound haha! Great video as always guys ✌🏻

[@MrEMann]

It's almost like you forgot that it's a synthesizer and could be dialed in to sound identical. The fatual part is we should be creating our own sounds and not worried about factory patches except as maybe a starting point.

[@jackduxburymusic]

Both the Sequential and Arturia advertise that they include recreations of the Original “Factory” patches from the original Prophet 5. This is not our attempt at programming each to sound like an original, nor was it to make them sound the same as each other. Perhaps I didn’t make that clear enough at the beginning, my bad, interesting to see though how people clearly want to see the other types of video though. Thank you for commenting and perhaps we’ll have time to do as you requested in the future. ❤️

[@fiscaldisco5234]

I played along without looking and got 100%. I liked the analog sound wayyy better on all of them and makes me feel vindicated in my insistence on using analog gear in my music. The arturia stuff sounds alright but it definitely lacks warmth and there's a certain thin, hissy top end that bugs me on all of the patches. That said, I would definitely cut a good bit of top end from the prophet when mixing it probably. Most of the sounds are almost too warm to fit well in a mix

[@christopherpederson1021]

It is much more rich and dimensional

[@alainthiry3965]

so you compare principally prophet circuitry to computer and YOUR sound card...

[@BorisBarroso]

Thanks, I think it would be nice to try to match the patches. The third patch could be another prophet because it's analog unit 😁

[@downpatmusic]

Very interesting. I love My Pro3, maybe my best sounding synth though only mono, it is very sonic, big sounding with lots of variety of timbres. I imagine one cold replace most synths with a lap top and some good composition and ears.

[@electricsnut]

The problem with Arturia is their synths never sound like the OG ones lol. They still sound good but not really true recreations

[@gilwe]

They may be close to one another but very different than the original P5.

[@jamesgullickson4039]

this was a f'd comparison, its like they didn't even try to make em sound the same

[@DankePlace]

I heard the giveaway as a P5 and I was the winner? I cleaned out my ears reel gud, I'll even pay for shipping!!!

[@Melodic623]

Fortunately for me the Arturia sounds better imo.

[@raycastman]

The comparison is biased because the patches sound very different. This is not doing justice to the great Prophet nor the really good Arturia emulation.

[@joshjamesuk]

The Prophet definitely sounds better, more warmth, low end and dynamic range but the Arturia VST still really held its own in comparison!

[@JonMurray]

Completely agree. I wish I’d played along because to be completely honest I was wrong even when I was watching on a couple haha! The strings patch was bananas but like you say it definitely held it’s own!

[@jameshhenderson8243]

Sound card also makes a major difference and whether it’s an AMD or Intel processor, ram, and processor version in the lap top.

[@the_JTowny]

Not to piss on anyone's bonfire, but that arturia prophet 5 isn't even a good vst version of the prophet. The scope or John Bowen/zarg versions are far closer to the original.

[@foljs5858]

Arturia is pretty close. They didn't even try to match the preset sounds

[@the_JTowny]

@@foljs5858 don't agree. As a vast it's ok. As a prophet 5, nah.

[@benstanton6759]

I’d take the real prophet all day long, try blending that arturia in an existing mix without a heavy handed eq.

[@NathanChisholm041]

The Arturia sounded better! And what are you talking about try blending that arturia in an existing mix without a heavy handed eq? Makes no sense at all! Why would you have to be heavy-handed with the EQ?

[@oholm09]

Im getting mines real soon

[@synthshoot1026]

I can almost guarantee you that if you do this with many many people for more than 50 patches. You'll get around 50% right and 50% wrong. It's a coin toss, no one can tell for sure.

[@watchfan6180]

Set the software and tweak it properly please. Like me the Capt is a guitar guy, but he should appear in some keyboard videos as he needs to be with his crew and ship.

[@JonMurray]

You literally said it in the intro 😂

[@unoauno5228]

You are playing a Rev4, which is completely different from a Rev2

[@boomtish4520]

Hmm. Surely just cutoff is the difference here. Maybe env.

[@The_Master_Brain]

Here is the proof. Nobody really can say what is Hardware and what is Software. An simple music listener never will guess, so it does not care if you use more cheap VSTs.

[@Firetracks]

Prophet is warmer with richer harmonics, PERIOD! The software instrument sound good too, and saturation/eq can get you there but, right out the box you can hear richer harmonics from the hardware.

[@ocnb]

I can't wait for the V Collection to be on sale!

[@Bulkvanderhuge]

I personally think all of arturias plug-ins have way to much metallic high end. It makes none of their synths faithful recreations imo.

[@jameshhenderson8243]

Spectrasonics software synths sound better.

[@jr6786]

I love doing sound comparison videos with my blown out iphone speakers on the road

[@wilkopiano]

Lmao second sound from arturia an accordion general midi patch! Don’t think I will buy arturia v collection after all.

[@nilsvanderplancken]

prophet 5 rev 2 > prophet 5 rev 3 > repro-5 > prophet 5 rev 4 > arturia p5

[@deepnineforty5646]

they sounded nothing alike. I am sure the filters if nothing else were way off from one another.

[@mrdali67]

Really weired that all sounds are like night and day. All I can say is if these are programmed exactly the same, Arturia really must have been sleeping. It sounds fine but absolutely as far from the original as it could be

[@annother3350]

Arturia mostly improved upon the original presets which often sounded muffled

[@budgetguitarist]

@@annother3350 Interesting take. It's also true that modern music has way, way, way more high end than it did years ago, so the public's taste for high end has changed...

[@jackduxburymusic]

Both the Sequential and Arturia advertise that they include recreations of the Original “Factory” patches from the original Prophet 5. This is not our attempt at programming each to sound like an original, nor was it to make them sound the same as each other. Perhaps I didn’t make that clear enough at the beginning, my bad, interesting to see though how people clearly want to see the other types of video though. Thank you for commenting and perhaps we’ll have time to do as you requested in the future. ❤️

[@weave_of_k]

Not even close the differences are too obvious 😂

[@Thirt13nthD]

Well I can't afford a real prophet -5. so Software it is ! 149 dollars well spent

[@nikolajabramson7608]

Arturia sound like plastic Toy, try U-he Repro 5

[@DG-ss1gc]

I don’t think you demonstrated anything other than how to have a good time with some friends. As a “Pepsi challenge” it was way too flawed . You should have done plain saws , then ad a modulation , keep it simple. I like your idea to do the factory presets , but they just are too far off. The only people who could pick out a or b is those INTIMATELY familiar with the prophet original factory presets.

[@NathanChisholm041]

With the first one I actually prefer Arturias version! Roll some of the highs off and it would of sounded closer...

[@mustafaakovaa7583]

It's not a quality difference, it's a power difference..Analog difference.

[@tenalock]

When I compare my virtual car to my sports car, I will be sure to stick to a 5kmh limit, you know.. like this video. lolol All these super basic sounds are easily cloned by any free capable vst. I own both..

[@MiloCarrete]

Helicopter helicopter 🚁

[@brunoblundo587]

Try manipulating the sounds live on both .

[@iceprada2]

You won’t do this comparison with Repro-5 😂 It’s spot on! 0 difference.

[@eternalsence3033]

yeah thats true, i have the v collection and repro and comparing, its insane honestly, repro sounds sooooo much better

[@iceprada2]

@@eternalsence3033 Yeah and there’s a shootout I saw on KZbin a while ago and you literally can’t tell the difference at all. Repro-5 got it, I still do want a prophet 5 desktop module. So far, I don’t own any analog gear and I think my first is going to be the volca kick, then moog mother 32 and then the prophet 5 desktop module and that’s it. I love the sound of my plugins but I have an light itch to explore analog

[@Paul-ur5kc]

The Helicopter patch is crazy cool, sounds like a Nam era Hughey, on an original Prophet V. YOU HAVE USE THE MODULATION WHEEL TO GET THE PULSE OF THE BLADES. I had one of the first P5s. That helo patch blew people away. Learn the unit before you do a comparison please.

[@jackduxburymusic]

Great shout on using the mod wheel Paul. Bummed I missed it 😞 We’ll very rarely have an opportunity to learn the products before hand. Working one day a week and filming 4 videos a day on average doesn’t give us much opportunity to be some experts in all the varying products. Andertons is a retailer and the angle of these videos is one of a customer who’s come in to the store to try them out with no prior knowledge. I get that might be not what your after but we all know there’s tons of channels out there who go into that level of detail and are awesome at it. Thanks again for watching mate and perhaps you should get in to KZbin so I can watch your videos and share your Prophet knowledge. For real, there’s room for everybody my Man ✊

[@Paul-ur5kc]

@@jackduxburymusic I'm on KZbin but I'm also pushing towards seven decades on this planet so I'm usually a bit preoccupied. I understand you don't have the time to learn everything about everything BUT if something sounds nothing at all like one thinks it should then perhaps a little looksee is called for. That Helicopter patch is incredibly impressive. I've been trying to match it for over three decades to no avail. My band used to start Runnin' With The Devil with that patch softly, "slowly" arriving, then blasting through the FOH PA panning from one side to the other... enter the bass guitar. :-) Twas glorious! Cheers

[@jackduxburymusic]

Perhaps 🤔

[@tubeMonger]

V-Collection version sounds a lot better.