REAL Reason Katie Holmes Left Scientology & Tom Cruise

[@AndrewGold1]

Did you know about Suri's auditing?

[@smoluk1]

You mean Tom Snooze lol

[@tammiewilson5185]

Yes, from Aaron's channel.

[@erciliaflores]

Nope! Haven't started the vid, but oh boy that is so scary! No wonder Katie was freaking out

[@TinyTC]

@@smoluk1 Tom Ooze

[@smoluk1]

@@TinyTC Hey even better lol!

[@clfoxp]

This is an example of how young children are conditioned for abuse. Children believe and are influenced by what adults say. Hats off to Katie for getting out of that situation.

[@Kreepyb5]

Yes!!

[@olympiahendrix4392]

It applies to Walt Disney's present behaviour!!!!!!!!!!!! of all companies! Of course they attack children. Hitler did it too! If that does not show their true intentions, what will?

[@lorimiller4301]

Some kids can sense something is wrong and be against it even if the parents are trying to convince them that it's alright. I know because I did.

[@Justicia007]

I completely agree and I just don't understand why and how they're allowed to get away with forcibly restraining people which is assault. I guess it's because they aren't filing charges.

[@peterkentbanner8074]

I totally agree. Is the same like imposing life gilt for the original sin in newborns because of something that someone wrote in a book 1000 years ago.

[@maggiebeth5442]

I have a huge amount of respect for Katie Holmes for managing to get herself and her daughter away from such a powerful organisation and individual.

[@tiger.wolf.2033]

me too.

[@briansteele2723]

Did Holmes continue to have a career or did being anti Scientology have a negative effect?

[@martyzielinski1442]

Why? She’s young, attractive, influential, well known, able to make a comfortable living on her own, and holds all the cards in any legal proceedings. Not fun, easy or comfortable maybe, but a far better position than with what 99% of the people on the planet contend with daily.

[@angrydoggy9170]

Fighting a toxic cult like Scientology shouldn’t be left to individuals. The government needs to step in. My country effectively banned these conmen.

[@Sunfl75]

@@briansteele2723 Yes, she did continue to have a carreer in movies and she directed and produced a movie herself, last year.

[@reneepolin6549]

Early auditing on children causes PTSD . Being trapped in an undesirable situation with no way out is traumatic

[@bonnielucas1941]

Exactly!

[@Teresia12]

Exactly

[@mtjensen5]

Auditor in a locked room with your young child for hours?! What parent would allow that? For me, not happening! Thank God Katie was smart enough and a good mother to keep Siri away from the brainwashing.

[@cherylb2008]

I would be frantic to get my kid out of there. Katie must have been so afraid

[@TinyTC]

Parents who think their children are billion year old beings in small bodies.

[@maytheforcebewithyou4313]

Suri One name is like iPhone hers is fringe on top.

[@DeniseDDS]

Thanking God for this is kind of sick too

[@lindaraezer3013]

A parent who is in a cult.

[@Weissguys6]

This episode with information about how Scientology affects children was the most disturbing I have ever heard. Heartbreaking 💔

[@Kreepyb5]

Absolutely

[@jackmakackov7077]

other religions do worse things to children and get away with it all the time.

[@Weissguys6]

@@jackmakackov7077 so “what aboutism” is your response.

[@rs5570]

Good to hear. Maybe pass that message on to the BRF.

[@cas3837]

Oh it gets worse!!! Katie was very very fortunate because of the celebrity status. Kids are not kids in the cult and parents are not always a part of their lives. They have no control.

[@proudmadrugd]

I got auditing when I was around 4 or 5, but my father was the auditor. As a result, it wasn’t a bad experience. He actually taught me to think for myself…which is probably why neither of us are in Scientology today.

[@aussiefriend6257]

As a mum, I have chills hearing about the children being audited! This is extreme child abuse. Scientology is really far worse than what we assume outside. Thank you Aaron and Andrew for discussing this and bringing out more into the open. Love your work! I have always found something creepy about Tom Cruise and was thrilled that Katie so artfully got out with Suri.

[@mmdaisylover64]

I think Katie was really into it at the beginning. She has a hugh crush on Tom. But as more time went by, she realized how insane it all was , and started waking up to the bizarre beliefs and she started faking it for the sake of her marriage . Especially when you can’t have a private life , and you have people around you constantly . You’re being watched , monitored in your marriage, child rearing and your own actions .

[@jhayashi177]

As a mom, I would do anything in my power to protect my children. I thought her pregnancy was a surprise and the wedding was a "shotgun wedding." So, I wasn't surprised that after Katie had a couple of years to see behind the Scientology curtain, she took Suri and ran the other way. I wonder if Nicole Kidman has ever wished she'd done the same thing.

[@carolheaden]

She did!

[@9876babyboy]

@@carolheaden Nicole didn't get to take her kids....scientology turned them against her

[@klondikemom3658]

@@9876babyboy sad. I did not know that. Heart breaking

[@lorimiller4301]

They kids were adopted. They weren't Nicole's biological children. The bond wasn't strong enough. Tom was the one with the money and power.

[@9876babyboy]

@@lorimiller4301 adoption has nothing to do with evil scientologists

[@ArtemisandOllie]

Bless Nicole-Katie had two tangible examples of what path Suri would go down. Hell ya, Katie ❤thx Aaron

[@Sally-up8xe]

Great interview both you guys. I don't think anyone doubted Katie left to protect Suri. Surely her father helped her realize how abusive and damaging it is. TC has given off weird vibes from when we first saw him in Risky Business.

[@lydiadevries8408]

Of course she did and she was lucky to have her dad to help her. I admire her courage and wisdom at such a young age and her dad is awesome.

[@tesskaiser2190]

Agreed. Bless her dad. They got her out of there with her baby safely. I feel like I failed my children. I split custody with a husband who tried to kill me. Yet I have to send them there. It's unreal. It makes me feel ill.

[@rs5570]

He’s a lawyer. That’s the rub.

[@m_christine1070]

I agree. I was critical of the way she did it was heartless, but at the same time, if she was trying to prevent her daughter from being brain washed.i guess she felt her behaviour was justified

[@docshane1775]

Her father originated and managed her entire “escape”. Katie was very, very lucky and very loved.

[@sylviadonoghue2195]

Katie's parents must have been horrified and terrified when she married Cruise.

[@vernamorales2326]

That jerk(Tom) would not let Katie mom in the delivery room

[@sherryd3299]

I have read that Katie's father, an attorney, created premarital agreement that didn't give her much (compared to Tom's wealth) so he would readily sign it and it wouldn't cause a long divorce, fighting over money. Her father told her to file for divorce in New York, not in LA because Tom owns LA.

[@vernamorales2326]

@@sherryd3299 Plus they knew he would do to Katie what he did to Nicole!!!!! Smart man to get burner phones !!!!!! Tom was blind sided.Tom said that Scientology was the greatest thing in his life.Sooo true "Allegedly"

[@marynoonan6111]

Her Dad & Mum helped her escape.

[@lindalawon9151]

Agree! Her parents and entire family and friends had to be horrified at Katie marrying a person belonging to that horrible cult.

[@kerrydevlin]

Listening to Aaron, Katie is a wee hero for saving her daughter ❤️

[@Kreepyb5]

Oh yes!!! My opinion

[@Kreepyb5]

@abefroman3466 ewwwwwwwwwwww

[@lynnhubbard844]

but she also became weird

[@sharondrury5676]

1. I’ve had enough of Tom Cruise and Tom Hanks. God bless Katie Holmes she had a horrible time. She saved Suri.

[@bluerose_11]

What's wrong with Tom Hanks lol?

[@sar8349]

I have had over 200 hours of training dealing with preschoolers. One of the really key things I learned was the brain development of children and the fact that they cannot - CANNOT - process abstract ideas until the age of 8 or 9. Until then, they are literal thinkers. Example: if you say to a four year old we are having chocolate mousse for desert, their mind goes immediately to a moose made of chocolate. Now there are exceptions, of course, prodigies, etc., however, you never set precedent using exceptions. This makes me think of the mind fracturing I have read about from survivors and how their brains compartmentalize into MPD's in order to survive the abuses. This is sick with a capital "S". I understand that CoS sees children as small adults, but doesn't make it right.

[@kateashby3066]

Teacher here and I haven’t had nearly as much training as you regarding child development but I still ditto your comment! Children are NOT small adults and cannot think or process info like them. Not even close! 🤦🏻‍♀️ I can’t wait till this cult gets their tax exempt status taken and exposed for child abuse and slavery (forcing people to work for $5 a week!).

[@candyrosefreeman7232]

Ok, An Indigenous Child Is Not "Tought" That Way. We Think In Terms Of The Circle...Which Is Why They Stole(Us) Our Children. Your Linear Makes Known Sense. There Is No Web Of Causation? Why? Arrogant Supremacy. Blessings And Truth For All.

[@candyrosefreeman7232]

By The Way...D.I.D. Is The Term. I Know. I Lived It. It's Taken Years Of Therapy To Become CoConscious .I Am Cognitively An Adult, 25Yrs,Maturation Wise. In My 60th Year. Alot Of Work. I Am Housed By Canadian Mental Health Association. So Grateful. By The Sheer Virtue Of Surviving What So Many Couldn't. It Is My Obligation To Speak To This. I Am Open To Anyone Who Wishes To Use My Life. I Was A Ward Of The State Of California,The Province's Of Manitoba And Ontario. So It's All On Paper. Blessings And Truth For All. INeed A Writer That Won't Be Triggered.

[@agirlnamedbrett.]

the whole fact that Katie and her lawyer father had to plan the divorce and an escape basically is sad, but it was insanely badass ! I'm not sure how difficult it was for Nicole to get out, but I'm glad she managed to escape too.

[@patriciaalvareztostado8170]

But she lost her kids..... and they made them turn against her....

[@flowerjpotter1629]

Going to put a 1 here. I think Katie's was freaking out at her child being in the cult. I read ages ago about how with his other children when they were "with" him were housed somewhere separately while he got on with cult stuff, he expected them to do the same. I think the more aware Katie became of what little Suri would have to endure the more panicked she became.

[@emphoenix7238]

I agree. She would also be aware of what TC and DM did to Nicole’s 2 adopted children. I will never forgive Tom Cruise for what he did to Kidman. Not that he cares; I won’t support any of his movies. Great job keeping Scientology on the fire. #endscntax501c

[@Lioness_UTV]

Apologies if this has already been asked and answered. BUT with all the complaints, police reports etc how on earth does Scientology still enjoy tax exempt status as a religious entity.

[@SHARON.I]

It's difficult to reverse tax exempt status. The complaints aren't evidence of wrong doing to pull tax exempt status.

[@TinyTC]

Because the criminal and civil courts are separate. The IRS would have to do its own investigation, and they themselves were Fair Gamed into giving back its tax exemption in the first place; if and hopefully when this Miscavige labor trafficking case goes forward, it will open the doors for the IRS to do their own investigation.

[@TinyTC]

@@SHARON.I It's not that difficult, but Scientology harassed the IRS for 9 years until they gave up and restored their status.

[@lindaraezer3013]

Scientology should be illegal because it's an obvious cult and emotionally and physically abuses adults and children. It's not a religion. Scientology is illegal in Germany.

[@SHARON.I]

@@TinyTC ok

[@vlucia959]

If you aren’t in my body, you don’t get to say what I do with it ie medication during childbirth or any other scenario. This is sick! I am so glad Katie woke up and fought back and that she had the support system to help her.

[@sylviadonoghue2195]

Henry VIII was actually the spare. His elder brother Arthur was the Prince of Wales. Arthur died of tuberculosis when he was a teenager. Henry was never meant to be the king.

[@flatfoot38]

No FRIGGING way my children would be in a locked room for auditing. I get so very angry at their practices

[@michaelupson8250]

No doubt she left him over scientology, not mention Tom cruises a controll freak. I had a friend who was in a movie as an extra with cruise and said he was a dush bag would not interact with others acting like he was better than everyone else.

[@edennis8578]

Scientologists DO think they're better than everyone else. Literally.

[@Peony1307]

I believe she left him for both reasons, and probably a lot more. GOOD FOR KATIE.

[@penneypetit]

She escaped lol. There's no way that she was just "not interested," in my opinion. She must've been concerned about a lot of things.

[@wisdom6437]

I don’t think I can support any more of Tom Cruise’s movies!!! I so appreciate what you both are doing . 🙏✝️👏

[@kenz4063]

😳4 yr old, auditing. So sad

[@franny5059]

On the replay #1 Katie left to protect her daughter in my opinion

[@AnastaciaInCleveland]

Harry's eyes are close together. That is a Windsor trait. The ginger hair comes from his mother' side of the family. Charles IS his father. ~Anastacia in Cleveland

[@erciliaflores]

I see a strong resemblance to Prince Philip. Which is a bit odd. He most def does not look like his dad, but KCIII must be his dad, after all

[@lindaraezer3013]

The ginger hair comes from both sides of Harry's family. In fact, genetically. you need red hair from both sides of the family to produce a ginger child.

[@erciliaflores]

@@lindaraezer3013 Cool, I didn't know that

[@faireplaymedia7622]

The ginger hair is very definitely a Spencer trait, and the balding is also a Winsor trait… And at different times in his life, Harry has resembles his grandfather, Prince Philip the Duke of Edinburgh.

[@definity5260]

What has your post got to do with this interview. They are talking about Katie Holmes leaving with her daughter from Tom Cruise and Scientology??

[@donnadovico8619]

I think Katie was very young and did not realize what scientology involved how involved they would be in her marriage and her parenting . As she grew as a mother and a woman. She started realizing that this is not what I want for myself or my daughter . I imagine she had several talks with Tom about how she was not so into scientology and did not want her child being brought up with those morals, values, manmers

[@Koko-bx5ww]

I also think she really wanted out of the marriage and did not want what happened to Nicole and her kids to happen with her and Suri.

[@robertodevries3738]

I guess she did not wanted to clean the bathroom with a toothbrush. Or be a slave to this cult, and her father was a lawyer..

[@ssoozee]

Great discussion, as always, Andrew. I love your reactions when someone drops a surprise or two on you. I never tire of your quest to understand our world and the people who inhabit it. I’m so proud of your success!

[@SHARON.I]

Great comment

[@becp488]

I highly recommend the book Beyond Belief: My Secret Life Inside Scientology and My Harrowing Escape, by Jenna Miscavige Hill, the niece.of DM to anyone looking to find out more about how Scientology used to raise it's children and how they had to change some of those practices because people outside of the cult were starting to ask questions. It's a great read and an interesting perspective because of her family connections.

[@aisling2292]

What are the child protection protocols then I wonder for these auditors who are allowed to lock a child into a room with them??😳

[@lumpstersmouse5471]

And trust when I say that there are pedophiles in Scientology.

[@sngray11]

There are none sadly. And Scientology just brushes child SA under the rug because they view children as adults reborn as infants that then grow up. The entire cult of Scientology is so messed up and yet the U.S. has granted them tax exempt religious status.

[@cherrylane6505]

I think they almost have their own law, eg, Shelly, who no one even knew if she was alive, for years. Outsiders, not allowed in.

[@Peony1307]

Great question.

[@TinyTC]

@@cherrylane6505 Yes, they know she's alive and they know where she is.

[@lydiadevries8408]

You could see how unhappy Katie was

[@pixie3760]

It's a really frightning sect when it comes to our children, you just never know who's going to get sucked into this insanity.

[@rdw2457]

The way Katie got herself & her daughter completely away from TCruise I hope serves as an example to other women (& men) being subjected to coercive control. Women are so vulnerable to great harm upon their departures from relationships… the numbers are staggering. // Lastly, Tom Cruise has always given me the creeps.

[@dalesansom3780]

I heard it said that Tom told Katie he wanted Suri to enter the SeaOrg program. They also say he has a severe temper and loses that temper very easily. So why hasn’t Scientology solved that issue in him. I’m sure he reached the top of the Bridge. Mrs S

[@karencristobal4999]

Q: is there any vetting or checkup on auditors especially if they audit children to make sure they aren’t you know what’s. Because those people go to where children are so there is probably a lot of adults auditing children who “just love kids”.

[@DP-kj4hj]

Aaron made really important point about the rules of engagement in auditing. You have to agree that the auditor can (and is justified) in restraining you from departing the auditing room. And you are led to believe the absurd notion that you only wish to depart Scientology because you have hidden crimes or transgressions. The "Total Freedom Trap" is downright insidious.

[@reneepolin6549]

I agree with Aaron 100% I can't think of anything more boring than reading Harry's book except an auditing session

[@Not_that_Brian_Jones]

I think that any mother worthy of the title would do what she needed to do to protect her child from abuse.

[@damiengirvan5020]

Can everyone hear please consider putting Andrew's full EPs playlist on and just letting it play out when your not watching KZbin or if you are at work or a school or just away from your computer??? It will help his views and the algorithm.... And he really needs our help now.... So if you appreciate him and think he does a good job.... Please consider helping him.... Thank you....

[@damiengirvan5020]

Thank you everyone:)

[@DowntownTasty]

Glad to see your channels gotten more subscribers you always have good content. Love your investigative documentaries. I’ve been following since the beginning

[@candyrosefreeman7232]

Thanks Guys. Blessings And Truth For All.

[@annettecuthbertson9514]

Kate is a great mother she's a great role model

[@MaryWallace-wv2bn]

This shit needs to STOP!!! NOW!!! How can we get these cults stopped!!! Thank you for doing what you do!!!

[@purselmer5931]

Tom Cruise suing that British Tabloid was one of the worst things for his image that he could have done. The truth really does hurt.

[@angrydoggy9170]

But people still rush to the cinema to watch his films.

[@auntpatty]

Most any good mother would protect her child from such a Cult. I was shocked yet not surprised to hear about this locked room and physically restraining business that is crazy

[@BeKindBeFree]

Rewatching for the algorithm, appreciate all you guys do! Thank you!

[@becky438]

Congratulations on ur 75,000. I am from the USA. Illinois which not the proud of this state. U do a great job. Enjoy watching u. Always when you and Aaron are together. Parents are crazy for allowing there kids in a locked room with a adult and stranger? That cult needs to go down.

[@Lynn-sz9gp]

In 1975 when I was 17 yr old my boyfriend at the time paid for me to take a class in scientology. I had to take an orange to someone's house where they taught me to meditate in a back room of this house. I took the class but didn't want to do the next one. They would not let me leave and I had to run out of the place in order to not take the next class. It was horrible what they did to a 17 year old girl. My ex continued to take classes spending thousands of dollars on this bull. It took him years to wise up but he did.

[@Mirily]

Actually, if I remember correctly, when Harry was third in line to the throne he couldn't travel with William either as he was the spare in case something happened to the heir! As soon as William strated popping out sprogs, no one gave a toss about Harry any more. I'm sure the millions of tax free pounds softened the blow somewhat though!!! 🤷‍♀️

[@reginabasart5080]

She never became a believer, that’s why she left. Over 50 years ago, my aunt and uncle started following an Spiritual Advisor. Once a month the believer would see him in private, the rest of the time was in prayers and advising the group. Needless to say this guy was sa my cousin from the age of 10 until she was 17. He was grooming her the last act, when she decided to do it with her high school sweetheart. This guy tried to separate them from everyone, my aunt was told to keep her away from this young man, and even from me because we were always together and this devil was afraid that she would trust me with the secret. Good for you Katie.

[@christinehochgenug4632]

KH left because she thankfully woke up and wanted to save her daughter from this cult.

[@florencetlp]

Where is the child protection department?!

[@debmorley4147]

The "department" is nothing but an underground railroad to sell children to cults, child abusers and child sex traffickers!!!

[@debmorley4147]

Ask any adult who actually made it out alive from that "system"!!

[@jdice6868]

I'm bummed I missed this stream. I subscribe to both channels, but Aaron often jumps into streams as he receives information. I would prefer some notice, but he has a great channel so if he wants to jump on, cool. It just means I check his page now and then throughout the day. I bet Aaron would post a link to the stream as your guest on his channel as well. It's worth a try.

[@jdice6868]

Aaron's video didn't go into children's auditing as much but what it did discuss was interesting. My comment drew some ire because I had noted a parallel between the auditing and the grooming methods of people who manipulate children for shocking and harmful purposes. A number of the replies were removed and I'm not the one reporting them, but I'm sure some are left. Check out his video. If you want, also my comment and the variety of supportive and horrified replies.

[@Kreepyb5]

❤

[@karenbourke1704]

Happy to support you, Andrew. Good luck. The outage is troubling.

[@wendyrowland7787]

Evil brainwashing.

[@auntdello5286]

Katie was "auditioned" chosen and groomed to be a "acceptable" mate for TC. It always confused me how she went along with it in the first place. Im glad she eventually got herself and child out!

[@LiveLongandProsperandFriends]

Back when they were still married, I read an interview, and the scene was set up with the 2 of them in the room and baby Suri crawling around while the interview was taking place, and I forget what the question or comment was, but it was something along the lines of what were they seeing in terms of the little personality beginning to emerge, and Katie answered something like, "she's a strong woman" and the interviewer was fishing for clarification, and Katie merely repeated what she'd just said ... 'Um. Whuh-aat? Well, that's pretty weird,' I thought. Then I just kind of brushed it off as, 'well they are Scientologists; must be a Scientology thing.' Didn't have a clue what a Scientology thing was before this, but that was my introductory inkling, I suppose.

[@suerieger7423]

Auditing reminds me of confession to a priest when I was a child. No choice in the matter. I always made up some bad stuff to get it over with. So f'ed up. Now a recovering Catholic as an adult

[@Kreepyb5]

Hah grew up catholic and confessed every week

[@Kreepyb5]

Thankyou ❤

[@patriciajones4206]

I have never been a scientologist, but I did grow up Catholic, and I think the mental brainwashing is very much similar.

[@cocobradley6013]

Auditing is nothing like been at confession...your not in the same room as the priest,the priest can't see your face and the do not keep you against your will,you were in and out in 2 minutes,it actually instills in you a lot,where I'm from we were glad to go to the Catholic school,education is the best and it gives you a start in life I'm thankful for...

[@erciliaflores]

I've only done confession once, for the Confirmation. Never again. Made up some crap, can't remember what but it was awkward for both priest and I. And stupid. As an adult, I now feel it's wrong, although I do agree that admitting to a wrong helps to combat shame...But better to do that with a trusted loved one, no? However, my Catholic "education" was nowhere near good enough by other Christian's POV, like my cousin in an Evaangelucal church who signed a celibacy card. Girls made these vows to their pastors (FFS!!!) to remain celibate until marriage. Ick. That creeped the heck out of me and I was so grateful I was a Catholic when I heard about this a teen.

[@fivecatgirly]

What a crazy way to live.

[@susansimon5105]

Love both of you!!! I can’t believe how much time I spend watching your channel, Aaron’s channel and then on Monday the Three Amigos and last, but not least, the Headleys!!!

[@Kreepyb5]

❤❤

[@TinyTC]

I love Marc's channel but he ALWAYS calls grown women "girls" and it drives me nuts.

[@Kreepyb5]

@abefroman3466 yuck

[@franixmeier4943]

Excellent. This podcast seems so well-balanced and is not too political; but still with great investigative journalism into unusual subject matter.. FINALLY, there is an interactive podcast that covers interesting topics, with simple and plain talk about real-life stories that are not the norm, and yet not trashy. FINALLLY,, there's something interactive on KZbin, around 3am, when I'm often the only in the house that is still awake! So thank you very much for creating this post where simple, plain talk is the order of the day. Sending much luv from Canada! 🙏♥️🇨🇦♥️🍁🙏

[@jofromoz]

1, a mother’s instinct to protect a child stronger and would always kick in before self motivations. Love seeing you two together, my 2 favourite KZbin’s. 😀

[@Kreepyb5]

Absolutely ❤

[@katiem6773]

Hats off to Katie for getting out of this ridiculous situation!

[@whorlwinds.9750]

I never understood why she got into it in the first pkace

[@peterjohn1217]

Think it was after the relationship with Penelope Cruz that the change in him became noticeable. That's around the time when he did some of the infamous interviews he's known for.

[@SamGrant2006]

At the time Katie left Tom, I remember a report that said that Tom had agreed with Katie that Suri wouldn't be put through Scientology until she was able to choose (I don't remember if an age was mentioned), but Katie found out that Tom had already started Suri on the Scientology path behind Katie's back and that's why she left so quickly.

[@TLC1903]

Henry the 8th in his young years was actually quite fit. If I remember correctly he became disabled after having an armored horse fall on him and that is when he gained weight.

[@Puddycat00]

When I was 14 I was almost indoctrinated into Scientology . I bought the book Dianetics with my allowance money. I didn’t know it was a cult. I was a kid . I trusted adults . I remember back then I loved reading books. So I took the book home and tried reading it and couldn’t get past the first paragraph. I ended up throwing it out. Never talked to those ppl again. I was a typical teen, I wanted to be with kids my own age and working on my first kiss. My parents were Christians and were not into some crazy new religion. I realize now that God was watching over me, all my life. ❤

[@froggreen2067]

Scientology is not a church and auditing is not therapy.

[@davidthomas-ot4cl]

I went into the Scientology centre in London in the late 90's. I wanted to buy a book to learn more about it. I was taken into a side room by a man and repeatedly asked for my name and address. I kept refusing saying I just wanted to buy a book. The man left and spoke to someone outside for a long time and then came back into the room. He gave me the book and I paid with cash and then he gave me my change. He gave me more money in change than I paid him for the book! So I left with the book and a profit. I thought about it after and decided this was a tactic to try and get me to come back. To make me think good things happen to Scientologists. They really are creepy and manipulative.

[@PeaceLovePeaches123]

How creepy and manipulative would Suri's "auditing" have been? Especially compared to a non-celebrity 6 year old. Go Katie!

[@susanelder7192]

It up to be against the law for the Scientologist to work with young children. Scientology should be investigated thoroughly and put a stop to you!!

[@RestoringReality]

What Aaron describes about a child in auditing is exactly the same as I felt about being forced to attend school. Even as a child I knew they were lying to me. Still I was told to provide the answer they wanted to hear in order to pass the test so I could have a phucn' break during the summer rather than having to attend summer school. I resented having to go and hated every minute of it. Now looking back I'm annoyed that I was forced to attend a 12+ year long indoctrination camp where they teach people how to be good slaves.

[@lorimiller4301]

I've never forgotten grade one. We were given a paper with a circle and the word Yellow underneath. We were supposed to colour it yellow because it was supposed to represent the sun. I coloured mine orange and crossed out the word yellow. Omg did I get in trouble for that. That was just the beginning. I ended up kicking my teacher in the shin for hurting a friend. School and I weren't a great match either.

[@RestoringReality]

@@lorimiller4301 I was sent to the hall for my questions a lot. The questions weren't inappropriate. The problem was in what the answers to the questions implied about the nonsense they were teaching.

[@vonickles5033]

I agree, it's indoctrination of formative minds

[@ambersowersby350]

I always enjoy Aarons company on your show. Thank you both.

[@Kreepyb5]

Yes❤

[@sherri4468]

Her Dad ripped Tom and the head of Scientology (don’t remember his name) a new one. Why would Tom go through all that auditing?

[@aimeecibran4506]

Great interview. Love you two together!

[@SHARON.I]

Always

[@AliceNsWonderland]

How much has Tom given to his staff?!? Probably not a dime! They're already making $0.47 an hour through Scientology! Plus! They get the blessings of working around Tom Cruise all day!

[@outgoingautismhowtoovercom8512]

I’m not a Scientologist nor have I ever been one, but from what I’ve learned about Scientology maybe Katie actually left because it’s insane and that anyone believes it is in saying themselves

[@CarefulSteps1]

must say that i've learned from these and from aaron's interviews as well. thank you both for helping us to understand more. if want to help these folks or at least be a listening ear to them we need to have some kind of clue what they went thru. hearing all these testimonies gives us a broader picture of the whole nightmare.

[@sheiladodds4186]

Tuning in from BC Canada Thanks so much guys. Great Conversation considering the topic. I have wondered for years and believed that the Jehovah Witnesses is on the "Cult" spectrum. It blows my mind that these people are drawn into this way of life!

[@anitagovan66]

Any kind of auditing of any child, I personally would consider child abuse! Full stop. the damage done is irreversible as it would put children under a traumatic experience. It's ridiculous that this is allowed to go on anywhere.

[@christinehenderson522]

I say 1, well done for getting out!! The strength and courage just showed how powerful are ❤❤❤

[@YTistooannoying]

Also, Aaron, Harry is Charles's son. He is the spitting image of Prince Phillip. The only thing he shares with the other guy is red hair, which runs in Diana's family.

[@TinyTC]

It's not like A-Aron is the first to say that...

[@emlee5905]

That doesn't prove anything

[@alanaadams7440]

And you have to pay for the audit to boot

[@Mr_badjoke]

I've never told Aaron that he laughs like a serial killer ...but it is pretty refreshing 🤠👋

[@fishoconnor108]

I'd never stop anyone believing what they want. But no one has the right to force their beliefs upon others and I don't know of any religion that commits child abuse. This auditing program needs to be criminalised.

[@pickle9753]

Commenting for the algorithm…so Tom sees it and gives them some millions 😂❤

[@SHARON.I]

I comment for that reason also😅well for fun too. I also like comments and sometimes share.

[@OurBackGarden]

Omg enough about Harry ffs. This is about Scientology!!!

[@lilly7187]

Talking about Tom Cruise interviews remember the crazy one where he slandered Brooke shields

[@karinkrog369]

That was just sickening!!!!! I have had patients who tried to kill themselves, but after they got the rright meds, their lives have improved immensely....

[@michelejensen1527]

Of course Scientology is why Katie Holmes left. God Bless her!

[@emmagudsell59]

Suri looks like she has her father's nose and eyes. I think she is. How sad 😔

[@karentranter7806]

Hi Andrew ♥ and Aaron ❤ Great show, its always a delight to listen to you both. Very interesting. Thank you both xxx 💝

[@obieobrien5883]

Personally, I think Suri looks more like her mom

[@Kreepyb5]

Absolutely

[@Kreepyb5]

My opinion

[@rickipacaci1338]

I don’t understand why Scientology is called a church. It’s so far NOT. What they do is destroy lives and auditing on a new toddler is despicable. Good for Katie. She got out in a he nick of time saving her daughter and herself ‼️

[@lindalawon9151]

Agree, not a church. Never been a place of worshiping God. Is an evil cult and leaders are like horned devils.

[@sophie9658]

I wont watch Tom's movies. His lifestyle is harmful to people.

[@Kristin465]

Harry resembles Charles and even Philip in his eyes. Those deep set eyes, close together. It’s undeniable.

[@faireplaymedia7622]

Did anyone finally determined what happened to Miscavige’s wife?

[@debmorley4147]

Nope! Probably murdered and dumped into the ocean!! Scientology people are absolutely disgusting and sick