Real vs Fake Vocals - Can Singers Tell? (w Gabi Belle, Daniel Thrasher, 10 Second Songs, Gabe Brown)

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[@ClellBiggs]

If the music industry hadn't become so dependent on autotune this wouldn't be so hard.

[@RoomieOfficial]

I agree, we're already used to so much processing

[@MrGlennJohnsen]

Exactly, so many singers/"artists" are scared for their livelyhood because AI can perform better than real vocalists with modern auto-tune. Same singers who are worried very likely wouldn't have music as their livelyhood if it wasn't for auto-tune and other modern production tools. Back before all the modern tools to make singers sound good in studios was a thing artists and bands had to make their money from touring and having tons of concerts, it would *NOT* be a shame if we returned to that way of music industry. Filter out the fakes from the real artists!

[@Frungle_]

@@MrGlennJohnsenartists where scared to not use auto tune way before ai, cause not using it would actively put you one step behind every other artist, unless of course you were some crazy talented singer without auto tune, but those are rare and just because you sing well doesn’t automatically mean you can make it big. You could be gifted lyrically or a great performer and then make up for mediocre vocals with auto tune.

[@miclowgunman1987]

@@Frungle_ this is all a pretty common path with technology. People manually do a thing. People find ways to make the thing easier. The technology eventually gets so good that people dont need to be involved with the process at all.

[@Frungle_]

@@miclowgunman1987 yeah

[@mintteafortwo]

Three types of students during a quizz: Anthony - used all of their knowledge for the quizz Daniel and Gabi - felt more confident when their answers are the same as their peers Gabe - confident about the quizz but it didn't go the way that they'd hoped 😂

[@mothballz2150]

I relate to gabe

[@why_tho_]

@@mothballz2150 same haha

[@Naomiskyyy]

I totally agree! 💯

[@frisout]

with this much autotune over the samples we can barely argue either of the 2 are "real", especially when we're talking about voice cloning rather than completely generated vocals. Both of the audios you hear have been drastically changed digitally already

[@Myless]

Right this seems like a weird video to be honest

[@AOGPlays]

I got the first answer right (was obvious) but with the next few until I stopped watching I find that it's impossible to tell like you said.

[@cidsx]

Well in the real world, a large proportion of vocals ARE processed. The idea is that we compare human voice with AI, and he showed the situations where the differences would be the hardest to spot

[@frisout]

@@cidsx but both of them are a human voice in basis, heavily processed digitally. The only difference is the method of processing

[@zitronekoma30]

@@frisout sure but the point is to figure out which method was used, that's the video

[@qlmqii]

Was not expecting to see Gabi on the Roomie channel!

[@RoomieOfficial]

we stan Gabi in this household

[@TD_Heather4TW]

Didn't even expect Daniel here, too.

[@Yassified_Shoto_Todoroki_]

@@TD_Heather4TWDaniel’s been here before

[@ExarchGaming]

@@TD_Heather4TW he literally lived with daniel for a minute.

[@Sly2BandOfThievesIsTheBestSly]

She is a bad person.

[@apandamandaaa]

Gabriel slowing losing his mind when his answers keep being wrong 😂 poor dude was so confident

[@lianneconroy5289]

Those dancing lessons really paid off Joel!

[@RoomieOfficial]

lmaooo

[@Frosted_Raindrop]

@@RoomieOfficial hello

[@marleyundangie]

He is so ready for Dancing with the Stars, isn’t he? 😂

[@Juli_is_Online]

Joo Blackgryphon, Gabibelle, Danielthrasher this is a musical meeting of the minds right here

[@FB711_]

Narrator: The participants were too stunned to care about scores.

[@bvoyelr]

After listening to the first 3, I can safely conclude that AI can perfectly replicate trash autotuned vocals. And nothing of value was lost.

[@YvieT81]

Wait at 19:12 why were the first vocals not included? Because it was the real one and they commented that it sounded wack? I mean come on!

[@MaxRide1]

I'm glad you said that, I thought I was going insane when it only popped up with #2... gaslighting much 😂

[@YvieT81]

@@MaxRide1 right?? And if you're cutting it out for whatever reason, then at least explain that you did it and why.. At least that's my opinion.

[@peterlewis2178]

I mean, maybe just because Daniel was really harsh, and they didn't want the singer to feel like crap. That or it was an accident

[@alysecoleman2538]

Came looking for this comment, I rewound looking for the first vocal and it wasn't even included!

[@YvieT81]

@@peterlewis2178 they all were kinda harsh I guess, but if you don’t want to include it because you don’t want to shame anyone, just leave the whole damn segment out. This was really confusing and weird!

[@jenniferlow166]

Joel’s descent into madness via interpretative dance is a visual representation of the chaos in his veins breaking free 🤌🏻🤣

[@elvirashapkina4823]

So true! That was amazing🤩

[@Lilithmaynot]

Daniel kills me lol. Crazy how they can hear all these little things in the mix

[@EmmaCosgrove123]

This is genuinely insane. I got 12 right, as someone who studied music at degree level, some of these are impossible to tell. I am equal parts excited and nervous for the future of the music industry.

[@maidende8280]

Damn you’re good. Did you use good headphones? I just listened on my iPad Pro speakers.

[@chiarac3833]

I'm a vocalist with perfect pitch and I had a hard time.

[@maidende8280]

@@chiarac3833 What was your score? I’m an intermediate vocalist with close to perfect pitch (not the same I know!), and I only got 9 correct.

[@Yassified_Shoto_Todoroki_]

I’m not a vocalist nor do I have perfect pitch but I got 12 also as I’m autistic and the shift in the voices was usually extremely noticeable to me

[@maidende8280]

@@Yassified_Shoto_Todoroki_ I’m an Aspie, and I thought I’d do better. Did you use decent headphones?

[@aavainkeri8048]

Everyone else: MAXIMUM STRESS Joel: *No thoughts, just vibes*

[@erikdavis1646]

Key takeaway from this: Many "singers" use so much autotune that they might as well just be using a computer for the vocals to begin with. Don't even need the people, especially when the autotune many times sounds better than the massive autotune.

[@caitlan]

I love that Gabi is in this video, never thought I'd see a Roomie x Gabi collab but I love it!

[@alleengdahl1288]

Appreciated Joel’s dancing during round 9 😂😊

[@mandy5549]

23:08 Daniel is me. Show cat.

[@Casett]

What? There's a woman on the Roomieofficial channel? What a fun group to get together. So fascinating.

[@ulfurkjalkur5165]

The bit with Anthony Vincent’s cat was so funny to me 😂 And the camera getting distracted by the tree lolll

[@Naomiskyyy]

I loved seeing all of you guys in this video! It reminds me of the video where you and your friends guessed which piano was real or fake. Nice change up from the commentary videos! I still enjoy watching the "feuds" you had with Anthony and Gabe! Thank you for this amazing collab!🙂

[@pry.level30]

You know you are early when the video has been uploaded 31 seconds ago and the comments are 1 day ago 😂

[@ms.chuckfu1088]

I'm assuming are not a Roomie early access Patreon.

[@bitsy00005]

The BBC Radiophonic Workshop deliberately introduced irregularities into their electronic music to make it sound more human. People just responded better when it wasn't too perfect. This helped me spot the ai a few times.

[@annalewandowska1409]

What a fun group. Loved seeing Gabi here. I started watching her since Joel mentioned her in one video. I hope more people will go to her channel after this one. ❤

[@baettlejuice]

I love when Joel works with other musicians, but I keep waiting for Julie and Heather from NadinetheBand to make an appearance! Their channel is so small Joel can take credit for discovering them! 😂

[@bear2325]

I never knew we’d get a Gabi and Roomie collab omg I’m so happy

[@KatereenArt]

It's the second time when your words "I'll see you in the next..." are cut earlier, is it on purpose? 19:10 Also there's a cut here, where's the 1st sample? What happened? Interesting idea though. I tried to guess, and guessed only 2 or 3 correctly.

[@xtinax3]

Love the KZbinr music squad ya have on! entertaining opinions- Gabe’s singing is lovely! However, some of the ones on here may as well have been AI because they sounded bad…but I’m guessing it was on purpose to make it harder to tell? Kinda agree with Daniel, that the ones indistinguishable it’s also just due to most music is heavily artificially enhanced/ stylized with programs.

[@Frosted_Raindrop]

i swear somehow im always on yt when roomie’s videos drop. anyways time to actually watch the video

[@Ivaknight]

What happened to round 15s version 1? I wanna hear the wack vibrato!

[@eightteentwo]

As someone who has played both saxophones and clarinets from middle school until after college, that instrumental round was super obvious to me. One sounded distinctly like an alto sax and the other sounded distinctly like a clarinet. If both played the same line with a straight tone, then maybe the AI could work, but these lines both played to the strength of their instrument. Also, maybe a soprano sax vs clarinet would be better, or a tenor sax vs bass clarinet. The voices had me fooled though. I stopped trying after a bit.

[@J21R21]

I love seeing all these gussts together! I hope to see another video or collab with all of them

[@ewtassara]

This was the funnest 23 minutes of my entire week. Love this squad! 💥

[@pigletrainbows7824]

Absolutely loving this video!I always enjoy seeing Joel with friends. ❤

[@Hopespringseternal]

This is nuts. My favorite music comes from last century… so all sounds like AI to me!

[@AspiringToFailure]

Excuse me while I do the math haha There were 17 rounds and the average of the final scores was 9.75. So on average they were right 57.4% of the time. Which is not significantly high enough to distinguish it from random chance and so the math is suggesting that the average listener already can't tell the difference between a real singer and AI. 4 people isn't a big enough sample size to definitively say tho

[@HazelAster]

Can any video be even cooler! Joel is on his way to become the best musician-youtuber ever. You rock dude. Love your songs on patreon.🎉

[@elvirashapkina4823]

Multiple this, so true😊

[@AviationCornerOfficial]

Yep

[@CriticalEatsJapan]

Plot twist ---all the guests are AI

[@xanny28]

This was so depressing.

[@sia7051]

I loved this grouping! I always love Gabi’s musical content so it’s nice that she was included here ❤️

[@authorjoannawhite]

Joel gabriel and anthony were 3 singing channels i needed to see together and never thought i would

[@ThatPunkDapnhes]

nice to see Anthony on the channel again! I wish you guys would collab more often

[@arimtz3739]

I love that you had Gabe in this video, you are two of my favorite creators ❤

[@Snoodle1512]

What an exciting bunch of people in one video ❤

[@daverothery9713]

This video is secretly about how terrible the voices sound in modern recordings. If all AI is going to do is put people who can’t sing without autotune out of work, bring it on.

[@PhantomFidget]

Pog, vocal challenge with mates! You know Lil Pitchy keeps it real with them vocals. Going to be a grand collab, Tack for the vid Mate 🐺 🐾

[@TayMcKenzieNZ]

So nice of you to bring Lil Pitchy onto your channel. That guy has been popping off 😊

[@sakurita316]

I gotta say this is by far and away my favorite video so far. And loved seeing all the people whose content i click on together.

[@forthefrogs]

Omg Gabi!! So happy to see her here :)

[@TheFakeStateFarm28]

OMG I LOVE GABI,SHE IS SOOO FUNNY

[@younggodsyt9889]

Was it just me or did the first one of 15 get fully cut out?

[@gaarasbabe2000]

This was such a cool video. Made me pretty happy to get some of them right.

[@nykole1963]

I'm excited for this, but also nervous for the human musicians. On the one hand, we have diamonds in the rough for songwriters, people who are not known...much at all, but make great writing for potential songs. On the other hand, a lot of people are going to lose their jobs, and that sucks.

[@SkyKin]

Real vs fake vocals 👀 Thing are about to become insane, get those ears ready.... Wonder what'll be in store for us this time around. Danke for sharing, Hopefully everyone is doing well. Keep It Up Bro 🎶 😎 👊

[@benamisai-kham5892]

I got really good at this when you brought in the sax and clarinet 😂 been playing clarinet for 17 years!

[@Fascry_]

I think I found a way to spot AI vocals very consistantly : AI vocals have very inconsistant sibilances and energy in the "p", "b" and "d". Following this method I almost got everything right (a few were undistinguishable from real vocals even with this method unfortunately)

[@zadiawilson2201]

I got the vast majority right by the same technique.

[@andelson]

Please, ask all of them to make more videos, together, of anything. Don't matter, they are too funny!!!

[@JaiLeeroy]

This was so much fun! And incredibly difficult to guess 😂

[@lacyLor]

I don’t know why or how but I absolutely killed this challenge! 👏👏👏👏

[@MasonMoore-bm8pw]

I love your videos

[@thunderbirdice]

@19:12 there is editing error. First one said #2

[@marmaniac]

Now I feel less pathetic knowing that sometimes even pros can’t tell the difference. And in some cases I liked the sound of ai more than of a human🙈 The contrast between Gabe and Joel in round 9 is fantastic:) And the final round is a very cool and pleasant surprise! In general, loved seeing so many smart and beautiful people on my screen and really enjoyed this funny and interesting video with that cute cherry on the cake🐱❤️‍🔥

[@Absbor]

round 12: 2nd sounds like a vocalizer i know. i guessed right, but don't know the artist, lol. round 13: 2nd has more soul (is this your assistant, lol?). guessed right round 14: voice 1 is ai, bc autotune is hard to distinguish. guessed right round 15: 2 is ai, bc it sounds so clean. guessed right (makes me think i should have played since the beginning...) round 16: 1 is real, bc mouth asmr. guessed right round 17: 1 sounds like a sax, while 2 had a klarinett sounding mistake. but, 1 sounds like it got converted. i was wrong for choosing 1, bruh. i knew the right answer but was wrong.

[@therealnb4714]

It was so good to see Gabriel in this video We haven’t gotten content from him in a while I’m glad he’s doing OK

[@EternalGamingNet]

Really fun video!

[@ThatNerdyKida]

Can we have more Dan & Gabi pls 😅 Loved this vid, caught me out a bunch 😂

[@fl-g15ramirezscullylou87]

THIS IS FUN. MORE PLEASE!!!

[@CzKaa]

19:15 where is #1 ?? :)

[@mgjvd]

The vocal on 2:49 is actually sick, idk why but I instantly heard it on a sick dubstep track. This vocal makes me want to take the dive into producing hahaha

[@justsomejk]

This was an interesting and fun quiz! I think u made a point with this video about how difficult it is to tell the difference and how it's going to be impossible in the future. To me all these samples sounded quite digital in a way, perhaps 'cos of auto tuning or something 😅 Gabe was scarily good at sounding digital 😂 The way u introduced Audimee, made me want to try to play with it, sounds like fun. Since I don't make music and don't know enough about the AI, I feel like my initial reaction to AI in music was a bit naive and purely emotion based. I still think that I rather listen to music where there's a real person behind it, who can actually sing, lyrics based on real human experience etc., than some song where random person typed cat or whatever and clicked create a pop song, which is then basically entirely AI. But like u have said it before, AI is here to stay and I assume that to make really good unique songs even with AI would require a little bit of knowledge perhaps about songwriting and music 😅? So perhaps the artists who will incorporate AI as part of their music making toolbox, but still have strong knowledge and the real story behind the song will thrive still in the future. There's already AI programs that can tell if AI has been used, so perhaps there will be one for music too.. I mean it's ok to use AI, but I would like to know how big part of the song is AI. I wonder what will happen to the Grammys and other award shows. Not that those have a lot of value to me even now, but if a song that has hardly any human input gets insane amounts of plays etc. Will it be awarded if someone let AI do 99% of the song for example and the person can't even sing it themselves 🤪 That seems insane. Also I wonder what will happen to the concert ticket prices of the artists that can actually sing and play instruments 🤔 I really hope that in the future there will still be musicians who put their heart and soul into the music they make and that music won't become this huge mass of same sounding digital porridge. Imperfections, different pronunciations, breaths etc many times makes the song more intriguing. Sorry again for the long comment 😅

[@Naomiskyyy]

Interesting take!🙂

[@justsomejk]

@@Naomiskyyy Thanks 😊 I probably shouldn't say anything about this topic since I don't know enough 😅 But it's really interesting how AI is going to change things and I kinda wish I would know more. Some bad and some good changes for sure..

[@Finchen773]

Looking your videos in the barn and waiting for my mare to eat her hay, is the best, because every time Joel is laughing she looks so confused 😂

[@koushalpant]

Was not expecting to see all the KZbin singers I love in one video damnn

[@rebeccablashock3829]

This was very interesting! 😊

[@StuffedUpSlime]

i love gabi belle!!!

[@beata3091]

all amazing people in one place ? 👀👀

[@clear_nce]

i kinda want the full versions of the songs sung

[@theneonchimpchannel9095]

Autotune is really making it easy for the robots. No wonder it's so hard to tell which is real when so many real singers are drowning in autotune.

[@paulstrife]

Gabi!! Let's go!!

[@maxmc2732]

Damn, round 12 sounds wonderful, I’d love a full song for that one.

[@visionhawk4403]

As a saxophone player for the past 43 years, it was very easy to pick the real sax. I want to know what kind of saxophone was played. It sounded like a Selmer. They're more smooth than other saxes, they don't really have that rasp that you hear in most pop songs with a saxophone. I have a Selmer Mark VI and I will never part ways from it.

[@funforall9741]

This was painful, the nerd in me loves this, the musician in me hates that you can just fake talent and shortcut practice and effort

[@waterdragon2224]

I got a few but definitely difficult to tell for a lot of them. Quite impressive how close it is already. Wow! Not sure how I feel about that. Hmmm.

[@TheEndIsNighITellYou]

I got them all right. There's an easy way to tell with this one. Listen to the timbre of each voice. The AI is always less dynamic, as if always singing in their chest voice.

[@BraydonMiso]

This was like the Endgame collab for KZbin vocalists

[@loettu]

That‘s veeeery interesting!^^ I think maybe the reason, why it‘s easyer to tell human rap apart from artificial rapping is because there is no or verry little autotune used for the real rap. With that much autotune on the singing voices like they are using today, I think the voices sound so artificial that it is allmost impossible to tell them apart from AI voices. I could imagine, that without autotune on the real voices it would be much easier to tell.

[@user-lv9eg3sj7n]

Joel just vibing on in the background there ^^

[@islaythejabberwokky]

My vocal-synth-trained ear is stunned by how smooth AI generated vocals can sound now... it takes all the fun out of digitally creating vocals though

[@simpbelius]

This might be the greatest collab of all time

[@Linx_antor]

I love the intro 😂❤❤

[@tylerhackner9731]

Nice 👍🏽 quiz. Love gabi

[@lisatayne]

I see gabi and I click. 🎉

[@bonniekrautheimer1625]

Funny that Joel and his enemies can see eye to eye now lol

[@clairesauve7832]

Very interesting! I am learning too. I found often that the one too clean, not enough vibrato or as one of your guest said: no breath seems to come again in AI.

[@KittyBunny-ik6ei]

I loved this video I couldn’t stop laughing it was awesome 👏 😂 well done

[@partypoison8476]

I love how they pointed out in Round 13 that the rapper has more soul to it

[@PCgmesforever]

"can you show me your cat" was like "look everyone we are people we have emotions please support us instead of robots" :D

[@AgentLaii]

YES DANIEL IS HERE

[@stepanzpevak]

You can easily tell by the quality of audio, AI always sounds like bad 64kb mp3 Update: It got better over the time at the end I had some misses.

[@stardustie]

I really liked the 1st one on the 15th.. where they bashed the original singing. I would even venture say that it sounded the best in the whole episode and I didn't even realize it changed to the second one cause I zoned out on the first one

[@SyedIzaan-Ur-RehmanSyedWasifUr]

Why did they get it out??? The singer got upset or something over the bashing.

[@TiggerIsMyCat]

I love how unbothered pyretta is about everything. Also i get cute aggression pretty bad, and This Is Cute Aggression is always running through my head every time.