Delta's First Officer suffers Heart Attack in flight. Pilot incapacitation. REAL ATC

21 MAY 2020
A Delta Airlines Boeing 777-200 registration N702DN performing flight
DAL3343/DL3343 from Frankfurt (EDDF) to Chicago (KORD) was enroute at flight level 40'000 feet when one of the pilots declared an emergency
reporting a crew member just had a heart attack and requesting
to divert immediately to Moncton (CYQM) for medical care.
Delta's First Officer suffers Heart Attack in flight. REAL ATC
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[@paultune1696]

I hope the first officer is OK, dealing with a heart attack is stressful at the best of times but must be even worse when on a plane and miles from medical care. Seemed like they did a good job keeping the first officer alive until they landed.

[@sebibence02]

It is unconfirmed officially as most of the medical related emergencies, but allegedly he made a full recovery and returned to flying a couple of months after the incident.

[@juliemanarin4127]

@@sebibence02 oh thank God!

[@Plqnes]

On VAS Aviation's video about this, the first officer actually commented about this, he was unable to regain his flying license but took another job in Delta.

[@ColinMcNulty]

@@juliemanarin4127 it's probably better to thank the medics and engineers that created the defibrillator that the plane carried. Credit where credit is due and all that.

[@Belchmaster41]

well, most patients usually don't servive or go into remission and risk having another one later on down the road

[@RonPiggott]

Whoever is flying has never wanted to be on the ground so badly. You can tell he cares.

[@aigtrader2984]

Yes and it is impossible to emphasize how unusual that is. Most of us pilots would do almost anything to get back up in the air. This pilot was seconds short of slipping that airplane down to pattern altitude and dropping it flaps up

[@zsoltsz2323]

That center guy needs some training on how to handle stressed pilots. "Sir, I have personally no information on EMT status, but be assured: if you have requested it, it got passed along. We are good at these things."

[@glencoe1951]

This is the perfect example as to why this international push to only have one pilot in the cabin should never go ahead. Hope the First Officer was ok.

[@Tesla_Copilot]

It will never happen, this happens at least once a month it seems.

[@ghostrider-be9ek]

there will always be a second/remote pilot available. There will never be single or autonomous commercial pax aircraft in our lifetime

[@Critter145]

The two pilot rule was literally written because of terrible shit like this.

[@matiaslauriti]

What are you talking about? You will never have a commercial (normal flight) not having more than 1 pilot... where did you hear or read this? It is absolutely wrong... You even have like 4 pilots in long haul flights...

[@johnpoindexter6594]

Agreed 👍🏼 💯

[@superfast30]

The urgency and concern in the captain's voice tells you how much he cares!

[@Relics_tv]

You can hear him in the comms in a lot of pain in the background, my god I can't imagine being the pilot having to land knowing a friend you were talking with could possibly die if you don't land fast enough.

[@EdOeuna]

Unfortunately it’s a common thing, with medical emergencies, to think of the aircraft and remaining passengers more than the victim, especially with the larger aircraft and on ETOPS routes.

[@pandora881]

Especially as it seems they’d already shocked his heart once already.

[@slukas1375]

Big respect to the Pilot handling all this. It must've been very stressful. I know pilots train for emergencies all the time. But when the time comes, it's still has to be distressing. Really hope the FO came through this all right.

[@tyw7205]

Unfortunately, I heard to FO passed away at hospital.

[@slennie]

@@tyw7205 are you sure? In the vas aviation video the actual FO reacted that he had made a full recovery.

[@sharkey086]

Kudos to the pilot they kept reaffirming the severity of the situation and kept their main priority the affected person's medical condition.

[@nathanfausti9213]

That’s actually not the main priority whatsoever. The main priority is landing safely, then save the FO. The pilot was potentially putting many lives in danger. Obviously everything worked out, but with that rapid speed/descent and work overload...if something went wrong, they’d be much less likely to notice, diagnose, and correct it before becoming one with the ground.

[@DBR00]

Amazing job by the crew. That pilot is a hero. I hope he’s on here and reads these comments. I would love for him to pilot a flight that I take in the future. ❤

[@MichaelSteeves]

Check the pinned comment on the VAS aviation video on this event.

[@blockbertus]

@@MichaelSteeves And that will be watch?v=GXDLfsBCcGI

[@fhuber7507]

That's a REALLY rapid descent from 30,000+ in 50 miles.

[@nahteo]

Comin' in hot, hold on to yer hats boys

[@ryantunison5433]

All trays in the upright position, put your peanuts away, we’re coming in hot.

[@rossnorthcote9164]

They were at 40,000ft so it's even more extreme

[@lilg2300]

at the end you can clearly hear the moaning of the incapacitated pilot. it must have been a really stressful situation to listen to it without being able to help...

[@paultune1696]

Hearing him moaning is a good thing, at least he's still alive!

[@carloscortes5570]

Wow that co pilot was in extreme pressure to save his partner life.for a minute he needed to calm down a bit,but managed to catch his breath communicate,navigate even did a visual.he was smoking below 10.great job sir.i hope capt made it in time

[@thexxit]

I hope the first office is okay. You can tell the pilot truly wanted to get him to help as fast as possible.

[@deansapp4635]

Yes

[@pandora881]

They had apparently defibrillated him once already, so the pilot knew they were already on borrowed time.

[@jennyjugs13]

What a phenomenal job by that captain, not only from a human standpoint, but a technical one. Well done, sir.

[@sugarman04]

My hats off to this pilot for how quickly he got that airplane down without much help

[@duckfeverretrievers600]

Indeed. But to be clear, even with the incapacitation, there was two functioning crew on that flight deck.,

[@palatina6626]

To hear the FO screaming in the background is heartbraking. Hope he is doing well.

[@Boodieman72]

If the FO is screaming that means they are alive.

[@scottscouter1065]

@@Boodieman72 ANGINA

[@djpoll1]

This was a hard day for not only myself but my coworkers at the airport.

[@dcxplant]

Lots of pilots becoming incapacitated lately. Nice job by DAL3343 and ATC, best of luck and speedy recovery for the affected pilot.

[@smark1180]

Source?

[@smark1180]

@@HiveMind-qv1iy How is that a source for his claim that "Lots of pilots becoming incapacitated lately."

[@smark1180]

@@HiveMind-qv1iy Yes, it's difficult to get a direct, honest answer from those making dubious claims.

[@G_Ozare]

@@smark1180 Oh, You want to be spoon fed. Its a general statement, however if you want answers look for them.

[@smark1180]

@@G_Ozare Translation: "There's ZERO evidence for that claim."

[@ZeckLife]

"don't care about rwy lenght, just give me ems right next to me once landed" ❤

[@staceygrahame2504]

I noticed this too. ❤ Think he just wanted vectors to the hospital car park in all fairness. He was clearly; and understandably; frightened for his friends life whilst trying to fly a ginormous, extremely complex machine. Talk about pressure! 😢

[@ryantunison5433]

Tower, we’re going to go ahead and exit the field, it’ll be a Right on Main, Left on First down to South Lane, Left into the hospital parking lot.

[@juancho420]

Seeing someone have a heart attack is pretty traumatic so I understand the pilot 😬

[@timsmith1125]

It’s even more traumatic for the person going through it. I speak from experience and deal with limitations due to a previously undiagnosed heart condition.

[@markcardwell]

Get well FO

[@LokiDWolf]

Just wow! Everyone just kept there cool. And that pilot descended FAST! Great job with that. Hope the crew member made a full recovery. And is eating healthier. :)

[@miguelcollazo7586]

That pilot was with the adrenaline on hi speed,have your crew member with a heart attack, focus on the flight and talking with the tower it's not easy.

[@RomNYC]

How many times did that pilot have to repeat himself? "They're aware of your situation"... Then "did you mention a heart attack?"... So basically they were NOT aware 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@RiesterMeister]

It's always good to double check things, especially in aviation. May seem useless but it's important for the medical staff

[@nathanfausti9213]

Moncton Control wasn’t aware of the nature of the emergency, but Moncton Tower was. The initial ATC contacted Tower with detailed info because Tower would be coordinating the emergency response, not Control. Control would’ve just been told Delta 3343 emergency plane inbound.

[@WiseGuy5674]

And to think that the airlines are actually talking about the idea of having one pilot and was being discussed recently.😐😲

[@shariys1]

NEVER NEVER EVER should a commercial flight only have one pilot!!! NEVER!!!

[@Bernard-ux2eb]

@@shariys1 You could, but you need to make sure at least one passenger had a one hour Introductory training flight in a Cessna 150 his wife bought him for his birthday and/or a 13 year old who mastered Microsoft Flight Simulator and has checked out on that aircraft.

[@johncas1]

@Bernard no because if the pilot has heart attack who let's the passenger into the cockpit as the door is locked from inside

[@Bernard-ux2eb]

@@johncas1 Leave the door open... oh no, wait...🤔 That doesn't work either.

[@edwardkuenzi5751]

Well clearly if they did this there would need to be a more fully automated system with the ability for ATC to issue instructions directly to the autopilot. If you get a system that under normal circumstances needs zero onboard pilots than the one on board pilot provides the added layer of redundancy needed to make the system safe.

[@nigelwatkins558]

when I was training, admittedly a few years back, we were taught "Charley" in morse, or "correct, as affirmative can easily be confused with negative !!

[@jazzi_0453]

the current phraseology is "affirm" instead of affirmative to avoid that confusion

[@robinstrahan]

I could be wrong, but I think it's a requirement for pilot to don oxygen mask when above 10,000 when solo in cockpit. Given the other pilot was incapacitated, the pilot we hear on the audio probably donned the mask until below 10K. We hear the audio improve at lower levels too.

[@bradskis81]

Nope, that is not a requirement in pressurized planes.

[@duckfeverretrievers600]

Only above FL410. In this case, that would only apply until the relief pilot got on station anyway.

[@James-ld2fv]

That first pilot was seriously hauling to that airport for sure.

[@ericb9426]

Have a good day. Hmmm. He’s already having one of the worst days of his entire career.

[@ericbainter826]

Habit. He ends his contact same way dozens of time each day.

[@omardawkins3178]

What the safe and effective is going on here?!😎

[@icebluecuda1]

Why do captioning if its wrong?

[@sinnottj]

Flying pilot sounded as under a lot of stress.

[@jazzi_0453]

It's definitely stressful to fly a plane all on your own, do all the comms while your co pilot is fighting for his life behind you. I can't imagine the pressure

[@hariranormal5584]

@@jazzi_0453 Yeah and god forbid if even that pilot is gone, you basically have many hundred passengers at risk now. Really less chances you'd have a passenger who would or even try to land

[@olepedersen5420]

Well, he was !

[@dalydegagne1839]

@@hariranormal5584 There were three people on the aircraft - the captain, the first officer, and the relief first officer.

[@cpta2020]

Perfect example why you need 2 pilots in the flight deck

[@sallywhite7678]

Any update on the F/O? Thanks!🙏❤️

[@michaelhayden725]

I can understand that the pilot is probably "more than a little busy" but from my experience there is far to much unnecessary coms between both the pilot and ATC. The captain should have been given his descent clearance and the runway and let him decide.

[@dalydegagne1839]

Actually ATC suggested two airports, and the captain decided. There was not a lot of unnecessary conversation in this case.

[@SkinnyCow.]

Wouldn't there be more than 2 crew members on such a long flight of Frankfurt to Chicago? Thus at least there would be two crew flying the place?

[@saxmanb777]

Yes, there were three pilots on this flight. The other was tending to the medical one.

[@hirisk761]

this was also a cargo flight IIRC.

[@choprox01]

you guys are all studs....well done....

[@fringetheory1162]

I do get that there are many reasons for somewhat poor audio quality on airplane radios and such, but you'd really expect in this age of noise gates and noise filtering and stuff like that, they'd integrate some of that technology into airplane audio systems. At points its straight up amazing ATC can understand what pilot is saying with both the background noise and possible less than stellar signal connectivity.

[@saxmanb777]

We are hearing this from ground receivers from various hobbyists. The audio is quite clear for the actual pilots and ATC.

[@instant_mint]

Is he ok?

[@clearjet]

Why do you "instruct" people to LIKE and subscribe BEFORE even viewing your content?

[@R1GAMBLER]

💉💉 SAFE & EFFECTIVE ♥️💥

[@bradskis81]

Shhhhhhhh.. not supposed to talk about the elephant in the room. But in my 18 years flying in the industry, this was extremely, extremely rare. Now it seems like every other week this is happening. Wonder what it could be????🙄

[@KSATSpotting]

@@bradskis81 because there’s a pilot shortage made worse by covid, delaying older pilots from retirement and they have to pick up more flights. Use your common sense.

[@bradskis81]

@@KSATSpotting Nooo.. There really is not a "pilot shortage" Every major's class pool is full and new hire training dates filled out. They all have at least 5,000, to 20,000 qualified applicants on file for of/ when those pools train out. Why would COVID delay any older pilots from retiring? I don't know a single one that said, yeah because of COVID, I'm staying on longer and picking up open time. That's ridiculous. I DO, however, know personally and know of tons who took early retirements and buyouts during COVID. So in fact, statistically, there's less older pilots in the industry. So for this phenomenon to be happening at such a higher rate, to pilot base that is now on average, younger/healthier, goes completely against the age argument. If there's less older people, and more younger people in the industry, would that not lower these cases? Why have they skyrocketed?

[@G_Ozare]

@@KSATSpotting We all have common sense, you on the other hand are suffering cognitive dissonance.

[@KSATSpotting]

@@G_Ozare Says the idiot that doesn’t realize this was a year before vaccines were even out. This was 2 months into the lockdown

[@SOUTHERNheavy]

Last Approach controller is not very helpful, creating to much radio confusion with his unnecessary radio transmissions, and the clears the emergency aircraft for high speed below 10k. They dont need to be approved, theyre an emergency aircraft! Bravo to the crew for getting him down quickly.

[@AndreA-ke2id]

Ir sounded lije the Moncton Centre ATC had been woken from his sleep !!

[@today7518]

More safe and effective customer results? Over ten in past week or so...

[@mutatismarketingecomunicac5736]

amazing job

[@TXnine7nine]

Looking at the date, flight number and the fact that Delta doesn’t normally fly from Frankfurt to Chicago, it must have been a repatriation or cargo only flight shortly after covid started.

[@duckfeverretrievers600]

Cargo

[@RogerAlan]

This sort of thing seems to be happening way more often than it used to

[@sl66ggehrubt]

Age 65, 67, 70....

[@lA-bk3wh]

Heart attacks in young, healthy people is on rapid ascend these days all around the world. Especially by athletes, pilots, trainers and all people with increased activity. We can all answer ourselves, why does this happen, as the answer is clear.

[@lA-bk3wh]

@@sl66ggehrubt You don't have co pilots in that age group my friend. These are young otherwise very healthy people. They drop like flies and we all know why.

[@R1GAMBLER]

💉💉 ♥️💥 ⚰️🪦👻 just means it's working!

[@smark1180]

@@lA-bk3wh Gibberish

[@kandicebrown4436]

Do you want to go another 80 miles no wanna land now.

[@Ryan-719]

Pull the power back and speed brakes up and get on the ground as quick as possible. Best wishes or whoever is involved.

[@jennydavis4198]

Technically no speed brakes on a 777 i assume you meant spoilers while similar they are different and as this is an aviation channel i thought worth pointing out

[@JosephSzarmachJr]

Captain should have declared mayday and informed ATC he was flying single pilot. I think the Captain would have been treated with a little more concern if ATC realized the cardiac arrest victim was his FO and he was flying single pilot - which is infinitely harder when you're flying a air transport category airplane.

[@asmrbuddha9033]

He called emergency at first. And as it’s a long haul flight there would have been at least 1 relief crew member - we don’t know if the emergency was actually the flying FO

[@iainmillar1532]

@@asmrbuddha9033in this case there was a relief crew member (FRA-ORD), but it’s not necessarily the case - I regularly cross the Atlantic with just 2 pilots.

[@dalydegagne1839]

@@asmrbuddha9033 It was, according to Aviation Herald.

[@tlangdon12]

I thought Americans never used the Mayday, Mayday, Mayday call. I thought they only ever used Emergency. It this not correct?

[@owtena]

And that's why it must be 2 pilots!!! 👨‍✈👨‍✈ I hope he is Ok

[@PetrolHeadBrasil]

Dear Lord.... Is he ok!??!!

[@juliemanarin4127]

That is what I want to know!

[@cfl737sim]

@@juliemanarin4127 Yes the FO survived he is flying again from what I understand .

[@staceygrahame2504]

@@cfl737sim This is great news.

[@Mike_Jean]

@@cfl737sim Wow, that is great news. I would’ve thought they would take away his medical clearance since he had a heart attack, but I’m happy to hear that he is flying again

[@JohnA891]

@@Mike_Jean if you go to VAS Aviation and look for this same event the F/O comments and tells his story.

[@juliemanarin4127]

Was the pilot ok??

[@Vulpix298]

This is the second time I’ve heard an American pilot declare “emergency” instead of pan pan or mayday. Is this normal in the US? Do they not use pan pan or mayday? Declaring “emergency” isn’t an official call sign as far as I know, because it’s so vague.

[@stemogstel22]

I think the USA treats "emergency" with a similar urgency/attention as a pan or mayday. The NTSB report on Avianca 052 that crashed in 1990 spoke on this subject. I am not an aviator, so my information on the subject is limited to what I can listen, read, or watch.

[@udawyma1682]

Had the pilot victim had the covid vaccine and/or pcr test?

[@smark1180]

No evidence for that. Furthermore, note the date of the incident.

[@itsmee9779]

Was the co-pilot OK in the end? ANYONE know ?

[@JohnA891]

Yes, on VAS he actually commented about it. He survived and managed to get his license back.

[@elizabethcave7666]

@@JohnA891 , wonderful, thank you for report.

[@lisanadinebaker5179]

@@JohnA891 Partially correct. Matt Clark has fully recovered, but he is, unfortunately, unable to obtain a medical clearance to fly. He no longer has a pilot's license. Captain Te Lee, the pilot who performed CPR on Matt for almost 10 minutes and brought the aircraft down in amazing time, retired from Delta about a year or so ago.

[@takumi2023]

i thought the plane was going to land from the other direction. anyone want to explain why he landed from that direction? I know airports can allow landing from both direction if there is an emergency. I was wondering if this is enough for that.

[@charlie7mason]

Maybe he needed the extra flight time to descend and slow down?

[@tlangdon12]

He landed in that direction because he needed a headwind. If he had landed in the other direction, he would have had a tailwind. With a tailwind the runway might not have been long enough.

[@erobbin144]

No way he's going to land with a 20kt tailwind in a 767, especially not one that's probably near the upper end of its landing weight given that it's diverting early. And he probably needed the extra miles to get down anyway.

[@edhofer7452]

Sounded like air traffic control had an attitude or just didn’t pay attention The pilots heart attack cry out

[@Boodieman72]

Wondering why the pilot didn't declare a mayday.

[@VirtualPilotOfficial]

Not required as the airplane is not crashing . Mayday or pan pan are mostly used for aircraft failures but fir an medical emergency he can just say emergency and he still gonna have priority.

[@Boodieman72]

@@VirtualPilotOfficial I can find no such distinction in the FAA's emergency procedures section of the regulations.

[@rilmar2137]

Saying you declare an emergency or are/have an emergency is essentially the same as declaring mayday

[@Boodieman72]

@@rilmar2137 According the FAA and ICAO Mayday-Mayday-Mayday or Pan-pan -Pan-pan Pan-pan are the official radio calls to use.

[@Terminator2310]

He could declare Mayday- Mayday-Mayday, then inform the reason, Mayday is for life threatening situations (I'm a pilot)

[@deansapp4635]

That Pilot is Badass

[@staceygrahame2504]

You can tell this wasn’t just the Captain’s First Officer, it was his friend. His voice said it all. You could hear the desperation to just get vectored in. Man didn’t care if he was being given a 1000ft landing strip, he was getting that thing on the ground ASAP and would have probably landed in the hospital car park if he could have done! Can’t tell if some of the sounds and voiced after 6 minutes are cockpit systems, crew in the background or a mix of both. Or even instructions from a portable defib machine as they sound similar. Either way that was a super stressful landing for that pilot. But imagine if those sounds were because they were giving CPR literally beside or behind him in the cockpit. 😫😩 Bet they don’t teach that one in the simulator! I hope the First Officer was okay and I hope the Captain and crew were well looked after following this flight too! I’m going to have to Google it now to find out.

[@staceygrahame2504]

So turns out the pilot was under more stress than we realised….. turns out this was actually a rare Cargo only flight on a passenger jet (many airlines temporarily did this during the pandemic when lots of people weren’t flying). There were 3 crew on board only. The Captain, the First Officer and the relief First Officer. The relief was summoned to the cockpit when it happened, having currently been on a rest break. The Captain and the relief First Officer simultaneously took turns to deliver first aid and use of an AED (defibrillator) and fly the plane. There will have been times when the two remaining pilots will have been both eyes on the FO because to successfully use the AED they will have had to haul him out of his seat and lie him on the floor, also so the relief officer could use the controls. Depending on the relief officers knowledge, the Captain might very possibly have been the one who knew more what needed doing and about how to apply and use the AED, so it sounds like from the report and the way it’s worded that the Captain was also in charge of the resuscitation effort, likely telling the other officer what to do whilst also flying his massive plane. That Captain needs a medal. And many beers! ❤

[@tylerchambliss8379]

Is the FO still alive?

[@karlgiel8891]

ITS THE JAB........😆😆😆

[@smark1180]

Gibberish.

[@mucoid1]

May 21 2020 dingdong

[@andy5478-MTB]

This happened BEFORE the jab! Stop being ignorant!

[@DavidMcCoyII]

Moncton is rather incompetent 🙄

[@HilltopperTA]

Always need two pilots in a plane!

[@smark1180]

No, not always.

[@Sushi2735]

Just amazing job by the captain. Extreme stress!! And alone in cockpit!

[@michaelm1105]

Pilots are one of the healthiest and fittest positions available just to keep this from happening. Yet the last 2 years these stories have exploded. What’s happening to our pilots?

[@smark1180]

Gibberish

[@Bernard-ux2eb]

💉

[@smark1180]

@@Bernard-ux2ebCrackpottery

[@Bernard-ux2eb]

@@smark1180 Typical response of a paid shill.

[@smark1180]

@@Bernard-ux2eb Prove that I'm a "paid shill." Until you do, you're a liar.

[@idunnoanymore2870]

My question, did this crew member had at least the double jab!!

[@andy5478-MTB]

Or did the copilot recently recover from having covid? Health issues post-covid very common.

[@staceygrahame2504]

That’s absolutely none of your business. Hundreds of things can cause an M.I, show some respect and leave COVID politics out of this.

[@smark1180]

FYI - a question ends with a question mark.

[@mucoid1]

You goobers are pathetic. Happened May 2020

[@bradskis81]

@@staceygrahame2504 Where the hell were you two years ago when everyone from the restaurant hostess, gym workers, grocery store clerks, to bank lenders and your employer were demanding to know whether you got the jab or not to be a part of society.

[@AdrianKobler]

as you wished - a comment...

[@alsehl3609]

The pilot sounds like he has his oxygen mask on. Many smells happen in medical emergencies and in a confined space they can be distracting.

[@jamiekahn5778]

The jab ! 💉😢

[@smark1180]

The gullible!

[@andy5478-MTB]

This happened BEFORE the jab! Stop being ignorant!

[@gregdrmax]

The PIC needs to fly the airplane. He is too concerned with the emergency. Sounds like he is freaking out. Fly the plane!

[@MarissaNye]

He’s out of breath from getting the FO out of his seat and performing life saving treatment. There was another pilot onboard too. He was sleeping on break when this happened so the pilot had to go get him too. Very stressful situation that he handled amazingly. No passengers so him dropping the plane that fast was fine. He wanted to save his co workers life and he did.

[@saved777]

Possibly seeing the effects of the poison popsicle

[@smark1180]

Definitely the effect of crackpottery.

[@marvinsannes9397]

Why so many commercial pilots going down while in flight? Vaxxed?

[@thelugoffgamecock792]

Zee clotshot doin it's thang!

[@mucoid1]

Look at the date May 21 2020 idiot

[@smark1180]

Ignorance "doin it's thang." "Its," not "it's," dummy.

[@garrettkajmowicz]

Technical point, but you don't deliver shocks for a "heart attack", you deliver shocks for cardiac arrest.

[@manusoftar]

actually not, shocks are meant to stop the heart so it starts again on a controlled rythm instead of fibrilation, on a cardiac arrest it has already stopped so no point on shocking the pacient.

[@garrettkajmowicz]

@@manusoftar You are confusing cardiac arrest, where there is an irregular heart rhythm which leads to blood not pumping (such as V.fib or v.tach) with asystole, where there is no electrical action in the heart in the first place.

[@juliemanarin4127]

Well...the defibrillator will tell you if a shock is needed...so

[@manusoftar]

@@garrettkajmowicz may be as english is not my first language, what I understood for "cardiac arrest" is when the heart literally stops beating, but if you say it means that there is an irregular heart rhythm (hence fibrilation) then I apologyze for my mistake.

[@juliemanarin4127]

@@manusoftar not true...shock may be required for fibrillation AND for arrest.

[@barbarasjelin9925]

It’s the jab that’s why I retired

[@traditionalgirl5585]

smart move. sorry for the utter corruption making you leave your job...better to have your health though

[@GSHAPIROY]

Yeah right! This happened in May of 2020, before the vaccine even existed!

[@Sunset4Semaphores]

Vaxident? We seem to be getting a lot more of these in recent years.

[@Alteshaus21]

Shut up

[@mfkp]

This is the dumbest thing I've read today.

[@country_boy9180]

Vaxident. You are so clever. Good one. You are aware the “accident” happened in May of 2020 right ? The EUA for the first two COVID vaccines were released in Dec 2020.

[@R1GAMBLER]

💉 Clots and prayers 🙏

[@andy5478-MTB]

This happened BEFORE the jab! Stop being ignorant!

[@TheMeatFighter]

💉💉💉

[@mucoid1]

Happened May 21 2020. No vaccine then. What's your response now, dingleberry?

[@adamgeitner320]

@@mucoid1 Was not aware of the date. Thanks for the correction.

[@vernonsmithee792]

What was his seniority #?? Asking for a friend.🙄

[@saxmanb777]

He lived and is back flying. 😂

[@stefeniedavidmusic]

How many times do you have to tell the frigin' controller that the crew member had a heart attack. JC. Are these guys listening at all? This approach controller sounds like a real moron to me. He doesn't make it any easier for the pilot.

[@errorsofmodernism7331]

Somewhere a Dr Fauci is laughing

[@smark1180]

"A Dr. Fauci?" How many are there?

[@EdOeuna]

Imagine flying across the Atlantic for hours and not knowing what airports are around you, which runways they are using, and what approaches are available. It’s basic airmanship to be prepared for this sort of thing.

[@robertlworley]

I don't think that would be a fair assessment given the situation. That pilot was under enormous stress worrying about his friend. Even if he had memorized everything, it will be a problem to pull up, and it would have been pointless. He asked ATC when he needed something. He did an incredible job!

[@EdOeuna]

@@robertlworley - to not know what airports are around you and which runways they’re using isn’t good piloting. I’d even go as far as saying that the Captain should have zero involvement in the treatment of the FO, so should probably be in the flight deck in their own. Let the cabin crew give first aid and let the pilot fly.

[@saxmanb777]

@@EdOeuna there were only 3 people total onboard this flight. No flight attendants. It’s impossible to be familiar with every single airport, it’s weather, and runway in use for every single airport you fly by. The captain was single pilot at this point and it’s perfectly ok to ask ATC for these types of things.

[@EdOeuna]

@@saxmanb777 - so not only did the Captain have a sick FO but his iPad, FMS, flight briefing and ACARS had also simultaneously failed? Wow, that’s a bad day at the office. Sarcasm aside, the 777 avionics show airports that are filtered by the company as being suitable for the aircraft. The ALTN function on the FMS also shows nearest airports, by time, and that is also a list filtered by the company (so you don’t divert to a 1200m long strip by mistake). The flight brief should list all the company suitable airports enroute, their TAF and notams. The iPad (or equivalent) will also show company filtered suitable airports (software depending) with full details of all approaches, etc. Finally the ACARS system will be able to provide weather and the ATIS plus it can be used to contact company for updates on notams if they’re not included in the briefing package. There is something seriously wrong in that flight deck if the pilots can’t fly across the Atlantic and know that Goose Bay, Halifax and St Johns are three very suitable airports directly ahead of you.

[@saxmanb777]

@@EdOeuna that’s why there are two pilots. Flying the aircraft is obviously most important and when you are descending quickly AND getting an approach set up that is a huge task for a single pilot. The pilot needs to be focused on flying, and trying to type in the FMC to pick up and read ATIS is a near impossible task. He did the right thing by just asking ATC to give him the information he didn’t have time to look up. We’ve talked about this same scenario in training. If you don’t have time to look up weather or approaches, just ask! I’ve done quite a few ocean crossings myself, and while we know the airports are there, we definitely don’t sit and have every airport diagram, ILS frequency, and ATIS pulled up. That’s just a huge waist of time becuase we’d be doing it every few minutes. I’ll just ask ATC. That’s their job. I had a medical diversion myself, and that was busy with all 2 of us, let alone if I were alone. You better believe I asked ATC for all the help. Handed the FO the controls, while I helped her set up the approach in the FMS, and ACARSd dispatch. I was a little overwhelmed. Next time I’ll probably skip calling them, because they kept asking so many questions when I needed to get back to assisting my FO. Learning experience for sure.

[@BODYBUILDERS_AGAINST_FEMINISM]

Lots of young white pilots suffering heartbattacks recently, it seems

[@lovelife1774]

Seems more pilots are getting HA in flight after they got jabbed. Interesting I pray for all my fellow aviators that they will be safe

[@smark1180]

What it "seems" to you is not reality.

[@Bernard-ux2eb]

@@smark1180 Seen accounts from 💉injured experienced airline pilots who would strongly disagree with you. Are you a vaccine injury denier?

[@smark1180]

@@Bernard-ux2eb Anecdotal nonsense.

[@smark1180]

@@Bernard-ux2eb "Are you a vaccine injury denier?" Don't try to make this about me when you can't support your claim.

[@Bernard-ux2eb]

@@smark1180 Are you a vaccine injury denier?

[@savageryflyer5391]

This is much better than that "VASAVIATION" kiddo that goes around CUATRO VIENTOS AIRPORT ( LECU ) as a PPL flying a citation. Probably the most hated guy around there, it really sucks

[@MrPomelo555]

Why? He did answer me once in a very arrogant way.

[@cedarkey]

Never ceases to amaze me how ill-prepared many (not all) US based pilots are to deal with emergencies. Here we have a large commercial aircraft travelling from Europe to USA, passing through North-Eastern Canada, a standard routing for the vast majority of EU to USA flights. Yet, the Pilot in Command is unaware of either Moncton, or Halifax. Unaware of the runways at said runways, unaware of the approach facilities at said airports, and unaware of the weather at said airports. Safe to say he has no idea of the NOTAMS either. What exactly was he doing for the 4 hours while flying across the Atlantic. Poor situational awareness is a massive understatement. 🙄

[@mikaelgerner7629]

Word!

[@joecraven2034]

@@mikaelgerner7629 Wrong! There is so much to do when you're at FL400 and have 50 miles to get down and shoot an approach. You want to get the FMS set up so you could guess at the identifier or you can ask and get confirmation and go on to the next task. And remember there is a crewmember dying next to you. Such a dumb comment.

[@michaelpearson7021]

Tell me your not a widebody pilot without telling me your not a widebody pilot

[@rk5218]

Laughed out loud at your silly comment. You’ve also made it quite obvious that you’re not a pilot. Imagine the sudden increase in workload and task saturation that this pilot faced. His First Officer is incapacitated next to him so he needs to land ASAP. He is around FL400 and needs to plan a decent to approach an unfamiliar airport that is 50 miles away. He needs to load and brief an approach that he was not planning to execute. Asking ATC for information is a sign of good judgement, as looking up the information himself would have not only furthered his task saturation, but also diverted his focus away from flying the airplane. In the event of an emergency, ATC is there to help in any way they can. Oh and again, not to mention that his first officer is possibly dying and time is of the essence.

[@EdOeuna]

@Cedar Key - you are pretty correct with your assessment. To divert to another airport takes about 7 button pushes. To enter the approach of said diversion airport takes another 7 or so. This whole process takes about 60 seconds or less. Also, as you’re flying along, it’s easy enough to know which airports are around you and which runways are in use. You’ll have your briefing package with airport forecasts and NOTAMS. It’s the difference between being prepared and reacting to a situation. Reacting isn’t the best way to deal with such a situation because you’re then under stress and are likely to make a mistake or miss something. Unfortunately in medical cases you also have to think of the aircraft and other passengers too, and there’s a lot more going on than just dropping in at the nearest airport. I’d even go as far as suggesting the FO shouldn’t even be in the flight deck once he’s become incapacitated, but that could be an airline specific thing.

[@philwhipple4557]

The ATC just don't get it.

[@pinkdoughnut869]

That delta pilot is a mess. Sad that was that captain. His co pilot had a heart attack and almost had one himself. Airline pilots are jokes.

[@EdOeuna]

It’s not the prettiest situation to handle, for sure, and this pilot seemed to be struggling from the outset, even not knowing what airports are around for a diversion.

[@johnnydkota5709]

The aviation community loves talking down about other pilots 😂.

[@EdOeuna]

@@johnnydkota5709 - these channels expose what pilots do to the whole world and everyone is able to scrutinise their actions like never before.

[@johnnydkota5709]

@@EdOeuna I get that. I’ve always heard about how respectful and understanding the aviation community is regarding accidents. I just found it funny that regardless of what the community is about, there’s always going to be identical attitudes and disrespect from people.

[@EdOeuna]

@@johnnydkota5709 - pilots become immune from criticism because they get such feedback after sims and check flights. You’ve got to take feedback, positive and negative, and build upon it.