DESCRIPTION: DECEMBER 8, 2024 A Virgin Atlantic Airbus A350-1000 (A35K), operating from London Heathrow Airport (LHR) to New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK), experienced a computer failure that restricted the pilots' ability to confirm whether the landing gear and flaps were in the correct position. Additionally, it was noted that the malfunction may have caused a loss of nose wheel steering. The crew declared a PAN-PAN emergency but later landed safely on JFK's runway 31R.

Why all the discussion? Just say your f*ing callsign.

Maybe a dumb question, from a VFR pilot, but how can they fly on a "route number" when they don't have a flightplan and make it as a VFR flight, why don't they just use the registration then? 🙂

did he say repo as in repossession?

That didnt look like rwy heading?

But how do you know how many partners they have been with?

Fine if your Ops.spec allows, but at least get your callsign right who are you? Skywest? Endeavor? Good lord, please pick one and be consistent.

I once had a Mig29 go vfr at 1500ft 😁

Had something similar out of Teterboro. Got PDC and ground had nothing on it. Something's up with PDC.

I mean rules are rules so VFR for this flight made the most sense lol

Am I the only one who saw the lol in the title, namely virgin pilots struggle with landing...? So either they are virgins and a bit sexually frustrated, or it's literally their first real landing 😄

Declare. Stay high. If the controller clears you to descend (like he did first to 5000 then to 3000) when you have a dead cylinder, say unable, and in fact climb if you still have power. Make a circling descent over the airport. IMC with bases at 200 is a tough spot that’s for sure.

A dude navigating half the world's worst comms in perfect readbacks by someone who sounds like he could do a leading role in Henry V next week. I love it.

I remember a VFR repo flight from a number of years ago

I knew it. Always always always an issue with fuel. He gave it in time remaining, eventually the twr asks for it in pounds.

whats so strange about them fly vfr?

Surprised they're allowed to do this in their Ops Specs

Hurry up with those stairs

Student gets an A+. Many get overwhelmed and forget to fly the aircraft resulting in lose of control. This guy was very controlled. Good future in commercial operations if he pursue it.

Is it a requirement that you have to sound like Joe Pesci to be a NYC ATC controller?

Great comms by all. Perfect readbacks.

Pilot too wordy . Lot of explaining. ( pan.pan.pan. have flight control issues; aviation controls not giving affirmative position. Need assistance with landing configeration. Souls., fuel aboard.

I thought this was against all airline SOPs

"I'm looking out the window right at you!" "....Sounds good." Diabolical lol

Several years ago I was working as a test pilot for a company modifying Boeing aircraft. We leased a 767 from Delta in support of a contract requiring a test flight upon completion. Delta supplied a Captain to fly with me. Prior to the pre flight brief the Delta Captain requested I file the flight plan and fly the test. He admitted that he had neither filed a flight plan nor conducted a departure and flight under VFR rules in over 20 years.

I did not expect that to be as intense as it was!

Cleared into bravo. Too late for that buddy.

People like to say Jay is guilty because he is fighting back. I would like to remind you that if you was accused of raping a child you would probably react the same way. JayZ should fight back with all he have because its disgusting this guy who is trying to cash in off the diddy situation he going after Jay because they know Jay and Diddy are close. I would also point out that people can act a certain way when they are out and about and be come a totally different person behind close doors how many of you can say you know your friends 💯

I’ve launched out of LAX VFR before. Ended up getting a phone number, not because I had a violation. ATC was confused and didn’t know what to do with me. They wanted to rehash the flight from my perspective because some of the controllers made mistakes. They launched me squawking 1200!

Classic JFK arrogance! There absolutely should have been more efforts to explain that the read back of the callsign is required. The term that ATC should have used was “use standard phraseology”. Given that ATC’s ultimate role is to increase safety, I think that sending a heavy aircraft around on what is nothing more than a ‘punishment lap’ is outright irresponsible. If this crew are indeed struggling, (which ATC are alleging), then a missed approach is only going to increase their workload.

I'm on JFK's side this time. For legality he cannot release a plane from IFR separation if they are not properly identified. Yes, he probably knew who was talking but these procedures exist for a reason and becoming relaxed with them sets a dangerous precedent.

Absolute perfection from the First Officer! Not even cruising yet when his sharp eye recognised the problem and took immediate action! He piloted a complicated and unexpected turn around, got medical help for the captain, pulled in the off-duty pilot, and managed communications all within minutes and by himself. What a legend! Personally, I bloody hate flying. I fly only out of necessity. But I would feel so much more confident knowing my pilot was as competent as this FO! I'm sure most of them are, but to hear it on ATC is comforting. Thanks for providing this audio. I watch these videos not because I know anything about airplanes, or even want to, but because it does reassure me as a nervous passenger. Well done! Thanks!

I believe once when a Caribbean island lost telephone communications with Miami Center, we departed VFR and once at like 6,000 got our clearance when we spoke to Miami Center . In an Airbus, but like 20 years ago.

Oh thanks atc the large cargo jet performing a gear up landing are egressing on the runway - for some reason they have elected not to taxi?

He can't even figure out the phonetic alphabet!

Is the universally understood word 'Mayday' illegal to say in America?

Was Endeavor 5578 flying VFR ?

Repo flight? How embarrassing.

Me on Vatsim requesting shortcuts. Never thought someone would do it in real life.

I was flying one day and heard an American Eagle take off from Roanoke to Dulles. VFR, and got flight following at 9,000 feet.

I love it! The RJ pilots are usually really fresh with all the FARs and rules plus all their training, check rides, ground school, etc. This guy thought outside the box. 👍 VFR isn’t just for 172s 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

IS it the video or did he turn from assigned runway heading on his own on initial takeoff?

The shortest the flight, the harder it is

That is one confusing runway heading!

This is NOT too rare. Long Beach Airport (KLGB) near LAX does this on occasion. Complete with vectors (non-radar while within the Delta surface area), to restrictions, handoffs to SoCal TRACON and then with radar vectors outside of the Delta. All while the jets or turbo props are under VFR and no filed IFR flight plan. I’ve done it numerous times.

In this day and age, this is like going to the toilet without your phone...it is actually doable people but wierd

Only another example to show that the most arrogant controllers are working at JFK. Would be helpful for everyone if they get less arrogant and more professional at JFK.

Vibe of flyboy on the radio calls is totally 'we're good with taking our sweeeeet time'

Wow cudos to the ATC so calm and collected.

Can someone clarify the situation for me here ? I'm still learning so I'd like to understand what's unusual