Reason Why US President is Banned to Fly His Millions $ Transformer Helicopter

[@tonyrowland9216]

you have to be able to walk more than10 feet without asking for directions.

[@checkyoursix5623]

In my view, the V-22 Osprey still doesn't have a good enough track record. Too much spilled blood.

[@georgeblank2648]

A good reason to put Trump on it

[@Saxtoo]

62 isn't it?

[@chrishovey2903]

⁠@@georgeblank2648 Remember buddy, Joe Biden issued pardons for Judges who were found guilty on corruption charges. He issued a pardon for his son who has child pornography on his laptop, that he swept with. If your problem is with Trump bc the main stream media told you too, I believe you are delusional

[@usmilitarypatriot]

very useful information, keep up the good work hopefully more successful in the future

[@nicholasespinoza9610]

the osprey entered service in 2007, since then 16 people have died in 17 years of service or about 1 fatality per year. Yes 23 people died in 2000 riding on pre-production test variants in 2 accidents but lets not overstate the danger or accident rate of the osprey.

[@KC_Smooth]

Right… “Challenging the odds” for expendable grunts rather than the President makes me feel so much better.

[@UndBeebs]

It might seem rather cruel, but that's always been a thing lol. Secret Service agents are also trained to dive in the line of danger for the POTUS as well. Everything surrounding presidential security pretty much amounts to "if POTUS' life is threatened, do what needs to be done to preserve it, even if it's at the detriment of your own life." They quite literally sign up for this, too. It isn't like it's shoved into their lap. You can bet your ass they're paid exceptionally well for it, though.

[@scroungasworkshop4663]

I was the same thing. Imagine being some important guest of the president and then being directed to get on the Osprey.🤔

[@hausf.kartreit1111]

​@@scroungasworkshop4663😂

[@jamesbradley3291]

Quick simple answer: Reason is because V-22s do not have long enough blades to cause auto-rotation in event BOTH engines fail. How many helicopters in history have survived crashes because of auto-rotation? Out of THOUSANDS of crashes over decades, you can count on one hand. How many V-22 crashes? 6 in its history. There are no guarantees.

[@bavery6957]

"Out of THOUSANDS of crashes over decades, you can count on one hand." Nah, not even. Read any one of the many biographies from Vietnam-era chopper pilots. "Hard-landings" were more likely auto-rotating-in than anything else - at least hundreds per year during heavy combat campaigns, for sure...

[@cloudstreets1396]

The V-22 utilizes torque transfer in case of engine failure. One engine can drive both rotors.

[@alexandergutfeldt1144]

@@cloudstreets1396Understood! Still doesn't allow it to use auto-rotation, when BOTH engines fail.

[@eleventy-seven]

​@@cloudstreets1396It was supposed to. It doesn't.

[@anthonyrodrigues5032]

Auto rotation usually doesnt result in crashes thats probably why

[@Justin-ve5mg]

I noticed that they had no concerns about putting the press in an Osprey.

[@edwardr7520]

Wishful thinking, maybe?

[@marblox9300]

These big governments can't stop figuring out ways to waste The Peoples money.

[@randyboisa6367]

These political "leaders" sure do get wealthy for just wanting to serve the ' people"

[@nixl3518]

Yes So called Republican leaders figured out how to favor their super rich donors by promising them tax favors at the expense of the tax paying "people" by getting enough idiots convinced they'd get rich too!!! After getting repeatedly smacked down, they ask for more abuse!

[@roberthayes5037]

That’s the problem, they never get to serve the people. That’s why things are the way they are and never get any better

[@ElTigreEsq]

The Osprey is a Lawn Dart and the entire fleet should be grounded. If they won't let the President fly on it, why allow our Marines? Design a better AC.

[@Tonetwisters]

THANK YOU. I completely AGREE! CHINOOKS. CHINOOKS. CHINOOKS!

[@brianking6128]

I talked to a couple grunts. Few years ago. They loved the Osprey. They felt safe on them and loved the space and speed. Important things to war fighters..

[@jim2lane]

Interesting how the rotation joints of the V-280 nacelles were blurred in this clip 🤔

[@verdebusterAP]

The V-22 unfortunately in case of total power loss will drop like rock A normal helicopter in case of total power loss can auto rotate which will be a hard but survivable landing

[@raymondpender1709]

It's also too large for the WH pad. I saw one drop in Quantico, all 14 people died, not from the fall but due to being knocked out and drowning in the Potomac.

[@verdebusterAP]

@@raymondpender1709 That incident never happened

[@nixl3518]

That's BS! Auto-rotate rarely prevents choppers from rock dropping, or killing those aboard even in the ideal circumstances needed for this to have any effect! TheV-22 can fly with the loss of one rotor; choppers only have ONE!! No back-up, so they make up this auto rotate BS!! "Total power loss" in the case of the V 22 requires that both rotors stop working. For a chopper there's only one, so there's no such thing as partial power loss for a chopper! The V-22 can work on partial power loss. No such option for choppers! Interesting how you slant your comments to favor your preconceived ideas.

[@verdebusterAP]

@@nixl3518 No, the fact is that in worst case of total power loss, V-22 turns into a brick Total power loss is both engines fail and yes that can happen hence why its called worst case scenario

[@nixl3518]

@@verdebusterAP Actually YES to your NO!! So your contention is that IF the Osprey looses BOTH rotors, it will crash harder than a chopper losing ONE!! Yet in real life, if you have two rotors, its more likely one would survive a hit or a mechanical failure. A chopper does not have that luxury!! One problem and game over!! I don't see how you overcome this fact of math: Two better than one!! This essentially closes the case because it is less likely the Osprey falls as one rotor will keep it flying. If both rotors get hit, chances are the human content is eliminated along with them so there is nothing to recover!! So what if it falls any faster than a chopper??? 9.81m/sec2 applies to both; Arrival to the surface is essentially concurrent!! It's hard to see that there is any argument. Only a diehard chopper believer would be trying so hard to twist reality to benefit the chopper!! Get over it; once the tech is entirely worked out, there is nothing left to favor the chopper. There is not much more time left for choppers. Just think how hard it was for the first choppers to stay aloft and how hard it was to control them. They needed bug-people: people with six limbs rather than 4.... Seriously!! They fell much harder because their tech was much more primitive.

[@darcsentor]

First reason he can’t fly it is because he hasn’t got a pilot license.

[@ADude-f3z]

You lost me when you claimed marine 1 copters were equipped with flares as decoys for air to ground missiles….

[@davidmackieson4609]

LOST WHEN IT RECKONED HE WAS BANNED

[@andrewtestin9080]

Does the new Bell fold up?

[@swell07_]

you can tell you live in a great country with great leaders whomst are highly respected when they need decoy helicopters and electronic counter measures.

[@joseliusvelez829]

My Air Force One Royal 🇺🇲 Forever 24/7

[@Hope4Today9]

The Osprey is a great helicopter and fulfills more roles than any other helicopter. It's so called high maintenance has come down and calling it a money pit is unfair as it has two engines to service and the tilt wing and provides great value! So comparing it against a single engine helo or twin engine fix wing misses the mark completely.

[@peterbarrett5496]

It's garbage and no doubt kept alive by some general that is getting checks to keep it alive

[@TravelingStacker]

Roles, not rolls.

[@Hope4Today9]

Thanks...@@TravelingStacker

[@Madkroniik]

thank god for your service grammar man.@@TravelingStacker

[@RobertWorland]

No Marine helicpters are single engine!!

[@SMcCaskill]

They aren't owned by the president so they aren't his. The Ospreys aren't used to transport the president. Marine 1 is used to transport the president from the White House to Air Force 1.

[@joseliusvelez829]

My Royal Residence 🇺🇲 Puerto Rico Forever 24/7

[@joseliusvelez829]

My Marines One Royal 🇺🇲 Forever 24/7 (White & Blue )

[@williamwaugh4272]

USMC Veteran, how many of these have Crashed?

[@optimus3305]

They now need wheelchair lifts and escalators to ensure safety of the resident.

[@nixl3518]

correct! Lumbering Trump was the first one that needed these facilities, including a paperless toilet so he doesn't drag it up the stairs with his shoes! But he was never a real President, so nobody bothered!

[@YouPousti]

You get what you deserve.

[@cloudstreets1396]

Not for trump. He is more fit than people half his age

[@TIGHTENUPBOSS]

😂😂😂😂

[@atheistmecca971]

Not true and not really funny. Come up with something new.

[@joseliusvelez829]

Im King 🇺🇲 Forever 24/7

[@ThePirateGod]

The V-280 Valor will likely be the replacement. the V-22 Osprey is too big and has way to mush rotor wash.

[@joseliusvelez829]

My White House 🇺🇲 Forever 24/7

[@joseliusvelez829]

My Protection Secret Service Federal All Units Forever 24/7 🇺🇲

[@bh7940]

Wow he made it down the stairs this time.

[@mousetyron3]

At least his hair piece didn't fly off like the clown

[@williammoreno2378]

Nor does he wear a depends.

[@dr9205]

I've heard White & Green sides a little different. HMX-1 has POTUS transport responsibilities but it also has helicopter use & tactics development. I heard the former is the White side & the later is the Green side. The distinctions in the video may be completely true & not in conflict at all.

[@usernotfound9934]

Why’d you call it marine one as a surveillance platform?

[@johndododoe1411]

Yeah, that would be NRO One or Intelligence One, if POTUS ever boards such a vessel .

[@joseliusvelez829]

Im Owner 🇺🇲 Forever 24/7

[@terryfong9110]

How many dollars are wasted transporting this sleepy old man?

[@quetafierrro8253]

He is a lot better then the orange poopy pants idiot you voted for

[@KlipsenTube]

It's too expensive in use for the US president, but not for White House staff and journalists? It has a poor safety record - but also an immaculate performance record in inhospitable environments (11:18)?

[@warchitect73]

er, the Pres just a couple weeks ago landed in SF's Chrissy field. Saw it myself.

[@garymiller5937]

The osprey is a strange looking aircraft but I guess it works well.

[@notyouraveragegoldenpotato]

No they don't lol. Those birds crash allllll the time. The marines literally nicknamed it the widowmaker because they had such a bad habit of just straight up falling out of the sky

[@nicholasespinoza9610]

wrong@@notyouraveragegoldenpotato

[@stevedolesch9241]

If the V-22s have a "patchy safety record" as you say, why use them at all? Weird and illogical.

[@skeetrix5577]

who's watching after one crashed today in Japan?

[@donmigueldolanza]

"Reason Why US President is Banned to Fly His Millions $ Transformer Helicopter" Well I don't know about you, but I've never seen a vegetable fly ANYTHING ...

[@johnrogers9481]

Aw shit.

[@raymondpender1709]

It's not his, it is ours, the tax payers.

[@MrRb9999]

If the v22 isn’t good enough for the president, then it isn’t good enough for the Marines…

[@jimdigriz3436]

V22s are like the chinook…the shaft linking the rotors is a single point fail. It fails, you die.

[@GRANDMASTEROFTHYHOLYKNIGHT-r5i]

well wharever he likes,cause he is thy pres of thy free world i have always liked thee pres allways.peoples shall miss those old choppers i will miss seeing them

[@jeffreylsewell8438]

I'll bet any President would climb into a V22 Osprey if it was your only ride out! No matter it's safety record!

[@RealMTBAddict]

Its

[@johndododoe1411]

Or a tarpaulin canoe if there's no other escape from a beach .

[@edwardr7520]

If the only way out was a pogo stick, he'd ride that too. In emergencies, you just do it!

[@zefdin101]

The one question I ask myself? Why don’t they use Osprey or Bell 280 for VMX1 presidential transport? Vertical takeoff, fast.. sounds good. The only answer I came up with is the SS probably deemed it is took risky a platform for the president. It’s kinda shitty they’d think it’s ok for Marines or Army personnel.

[@cnknguyen]

we haven't had a president in over 2 years, so these dudes have a good time to train up.

[@johnrogers9481]

Actually, the last guy was just acting-president.

[@michael1242]

@@johnrogers9481 and he wasn't a good actor

[@chuckjackson1814]

Joe probably can't manage the steps on the new chopper .

[@bastiaan7777777]

That edited screenshot.. blech....

[@solarforfuture]

several v22 land local every month... good show at night... as rotors are lit up... wow...

[@markoconnell804]

Quite numerous? Exactly what is that number per flight hours compared to the other helicopters he does fly? What you stated is just your opinion stated as fact until facts are given.

[@unclefart5527]

He can't ride a bicycle without crashing, why would he be allowed to fly a V-22?

[@jakerules04]

he doesnt fly the things hes in silly

[@lucast3006]

@@jakerules04It was a joke. But it’s true that he can’t even ride a bike…

[@pranavpatil8587]

Same I was thinking 😂😂

[@onemercilessming1342]

Hell, he can't walk without face-planting.

[@dvandkq]

Is it 73 indictments now for Mango Mussolini?

[@57HarleyDavidson]

Only 3 Former presidents had their pilot's license President Dwight D. Eisenhower, President George H.W. Bush and his son President George W. Bush.

[@hausf.kartreit1111]

SadlyThe V22 is still in the R&D phase◇¿.

[@optimus3305]

They are just going to keep using Marine 1 for the whole trip, just a couple stairs.

[@marinz4life]

classic! 😂

[@Prairie1960]

That's what I was thinking...less stairs, less chance that dumb SOB will trip up the stairs.

[@Makemefly77]

Sounds like bs to me. First, the Osprey is not a helicopter it is a vertical lift off and landing craft. The blades move to a forward position and the plane flies like a prop job. Get your stuff right.

[@shaf3006]

This didn't take into account an invisible marine one, only Joe can see😂 he will salute to an invisible marine too

[@thanhdinh4929]

Trong trường hợp khẩn cấp thì cái gì dung cũng được mà thôi

[@I.M.A.Panther3619]

The President is now transported by the new VH-92 helicopters. As of about August or September 2024. I think.

[@winthropbaker5494]

Oh let him go...mite be a hoot!!

[@thehark6247]

this theatrical production has expensive props, literally.

[@CallMeByMyMatingName]

Incredible information!

[@everioke]

A flying hearse would be more appropriate for our President Biden.

[@waynefletcher9884]

The V280 cannot carry half as much as the Osprey

[@tentingaroundflorida]

Osprey crash alot

[@glennweitknecht2318]

Actually the crash less then other helicopters. Since 1991 there have been 13 crashes involving the loss of the aircraft. The CH-53E has had 24 major crashes since since 1984 and i don't know numbers but i would say there are far more V-22's than CH-53E's

[@Doubie.]

I’d like to point out presidents were also banned from using electricity at one point because security was scared of them being shocked to death

[@DonaldTomlin]

Sure as hell do not need all these.

[@Nightwing01010]

Your Engrish is amazing

[@FcjukritHinnok-e3z]

❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉

[@rolenrodes1371]

Does it include a Childs Seat, a Sippy Cup, some Ice Cream, a Binkie and several Depends Diapers?

[@fn0rd-f5o]

I would guess is because they have a terrible safety record.

[@clemclemson9259]

good put him in there and take it out over the ocean where he belongs

[@dianapennepacker6854]

Stop getting your news from TikTok. Their record is actually just as safe if not better then regular helicopters. Don't believe me? Google it and do your own research. Damn I can stand people who so confidently spout misinformation as fact.

[@joeb9135]

need a elevator for 6 days

[@tioganh]

Why not save a ton of the peoples money and move the White House to Andrews Airforce Base. Wouldn't need 30 helicopters. Makes sence.

[@johndododoe1411]

That would increase the cost of trips to the capitol and supreme court , and more VIPs are doing those trips, multiplying the cost .

[@CoachKen10]

He will fall getting into it like he does every other aircraft.

[@johnwilliams1091]

At some point the v-22 could become certified. The VH-60 had a similar record early on… so much so that it was referred to as the crash hawk

[@Purenrgy]

V-22 is a complete waste of money and time. They should have stuck with the CH-46 and just spent that money on upgrading it.

[@michaelmccarthy4615]

Complex money pit Ok, order more

[@caesar1295]

Please let SLO Joe and Kamala both ride in this helicopter at the same time it will help the US greatly.

[@borninMaine]

You couldn't get me on one of those Osprey Widow makers

[@ellenbarnette2080]

Biden won't be on that plane ever again 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Thank you God

[@bdhb12]

Flares to defend against air to ground missiles? I'm sure you have enough time to not make that mistake. But, there it is...

[@CallMeByMyMatingName]

I'm glad someone mentioned it. Must be some fancy flares!

[@johndododoe1411]

​@@CallMeByMyMatingNameHand operated by SS or marines after evacuating the helicopter, obviously .

[@dasfaultier8551]

Hes the President, he can do whatever he want, ask Trump 🤷‍♂️☝️🤣

[@Easy-Eight]

$37 Trillion in debt and the POTUS has an Air Force that would put most mid sized nations to shame. Spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend

[@RichardSouthside-p6s]

That half helicopter, half plane is a piece of crap. I wouldnt fly in it. Just ask them to show the emergency actions in case of emergency situations.

[@MatthewSmith-x7f]

Too many steps to get in or out.

[@lbrasanchoo5290]

💚👍

[@lisaschuster686]

I saw Trump come home from the hospital in a helicopter. Presidents are getting older and older but they never die.

[@jason78981]

is the reason that he cant ride is because it has a tricky set of stairs to get into it?

[@vc7393]

Yes😮😮😮

[@Maisiewuppp]

At least he‘s not too fat to fit in it.

[@vc7393]

@Maisiewuppp well who might you be talking about.

[@االفارسالسبيعي]

استغفر الله العظيم واتوب اليه ❤

[@mtz3843]

the V22 is a piece of trash, completely, the marines need to bring back the CH46, one of the greatest helo's, stable aircraft.

[@mrjj1f]

Can you say "boondoggle"?

[@geniferteal4178]

Because he calls it the ostrich? 😂

[@dylanmijer2890]

It suck that the osprey is such a bad vehicle because it’s so beautiful😍

[@x-men69-96]

Osprey is the most unreliable helicopter. That’s why.

[@ianchristopheralexander1985]

My parents has all of the coins.

[@ianchristopheralexander1985]

And they are safe keeping the coins for safety.

[@Wheelerdealer2]

What a waste of resources and money with all the unnecessary other vehicles and air craft

[@phillipzx3754]

"Reason Why US President is Banned to Fly His Millions $ Transformer Helicopter" So which POTUS is banned? "President," is singular. 🤣

[@BigD4Real.]

The president is one of the worst waist of tax dollars.

[@Easy-Eight]

Trump is fat and has a big waist. Biden spends money like a drunken sailor and *waste*s money.

[@lrcb40]

“Banned to fly”? Wtf grammar is that?

[@justsayingforafriend7010]

WHY? Because they are junk and crashes a lot!!!

[@nickgibb4687]

its not his its WE THE PEOPLE aka taxpayers

[@dvandkq]

Good luck trying to board it!

[@johndododoe1411]

It's his for the duration, just like any other issued military gear being referred to as "Tom's riffle", "Rick's uniform" and "Harry's shovel" if the gear survives the assignment, it's returned for reissue to another soldier .

[@pierrebibeau9861]

Re-enforce the landing area, by God.

[@randym9147]

All this fuss used to make sense. Now they are there to protect us from Kameltew being president.

[@johnrogers9481]

Now, flying us through to ‘28 when the next one, a woman comes in!

[@iamacarnut]

The took out kennnedy out on a noll...cant they drop his ass in the ocean... and say FORGET ABOUT IT