Reason Why US President is Banned to Fly His Millions $ Transformer Helicopter

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[@KC_Smooth]

Right… “Challenging the odds” for expendable grunts rather than the President makes me feel so much better.

[@UndBeebs]

It might seem rather cruel, but that's always been a thing lol. Secret Service agents are also trained to dive in the line of danger for the POTUS as well. Everything surrounding presidential security pretty much amounts to "if POTUS' life is threatened, do what needs to be done to preserve it, even if it's at the detriment of your own life." They quite literally sign up for this, too. It isn't like it's shoved into their lap. You can bet your ass they're paid exceptionally well for it, though.

[@scroungasworkshop4663]

I was the same thing. Imagine being some important guest of the president and then being directed to get on the Osprey.🤔

[@usmilitarypatriot]

very useful information, keep up the good work hopefully more successful in the future

[@jamesbradley3291]

Quick simple answer: Reason is because V-22s do not have long enough blades to cause auto-rotation in event BOTH engines fail. How many helicopters in history have survived crashes because of auto-rotation? Out of THOUSANDS of crashes over decades, you can count on one hand. How many V-22 crashes? 6 in its history. There are no guarantees.

[@bavery6957]

"Out of THOUSANDS of crashes over decades, you can count on one hand." Nah, not even. Read any one of the many biographies from Vietnam-era chopper pilots. "Hard-landings" were more likely auto-rotating-in than anything else - at least hundreds per year during heavy combat campaigns, for sure...

[@cloudstreets1396]

The V-22 utilizes torque transfer in case of engine failure. One engine can drive both rotors.

[@alexandergutfeldt1144]

@@cloudstreets1396Understood! Still doesn't allow it to use auto-rotation, when BOTH engines fail.

[@eleventy-seven]

​@@cloudstreets1396It was supposed to. It doesn't.

[@anthonyrodrigues5032]

Auto rotation usually doesnt result in crashes thats probably why

[@nicholasespinoza9610]

the osprey entered service in 2007, since then 16 people have died in 17 years of service or about 1 fatality per year. Yes 23 people died in 2000 riding on pre-production test variants in 2 accidents but lets not overstate the danger or accident rate of the osprey.

[@dr9205]

I've heard White & Green sides a little different. HMX-1 has POTUS transport responsibilities but it also has helicopter use & tactics development. I heard the former is the White side & the later is the Green side. The distinctions in the video may be completely true & not in conflict at all.

[@randyboisa6367]

These political "leaders" sure do get wealthy for just wanting to serve the ' people"

[@nixl3518]

Yes So called Republican leaders figured out how to favor their super rich donors by promising them tax favors at the expense of the tax paying "people" by getting enough idiots convinced they'd get rich too!!! After getting repeatedly smacked down, they ask for more abuse!

[@warrtiger9780]

The Osprey is a Lawn Dart and the entire fleet should be grounded. If they won't let the President fly on it, why allow our Marines? Design a better AC.

[@jim2lane]

Interesting how the rotation joints of the V-280 nacelles were blurred in this clip 🤔

[@swell07_]

you can tell you live in a great country with great leaders whomst are highly respected when they need decoy helicopters and electronic counter measures.

[@solarforfuture]

several v22 land local every month... good show at night... as rotors are lit up... wow...

[@verdebusterAP]

The V-22 unfortunately in case of total power loss will drop like rock A normal helicopter in case of total power loss can auto rotate which will be a hard but survivable landing

[@raymondpender1709]

It's also too large for the WH pad. I saw one drop in Quantico, all 14 people died, not from the fall but due to being knocked out and drowning in the Potomac.

[@verdebusterAP]

@@raymondpender1709 That incident never happened

[@nixl3518]

That's BS! Auto-rotate rarely prevents choppers from rock dropping, or killing those aboard even in the ideal circumstances needed for this to have any effect! TheV-22 can fly with the loss of one rotor; choppers only have ONE!! No back-up, so they make up this auto rotate BS!! "Total power loss" in the case of the V 22 requires that both rotors stop working. For a chopper there's only one, so there's no such thing as partial power loss for a chopper! The V-22 can work on partial power loss. No such option for choppers! Interesting how you slant your comments to favor your preconceived ideas.

[@verdebusterAP]

@@nixl3518 No, the fact is that in worst case of total power loss, V-22 turns into a brick Total power loss is both engines fail and yes that can happen hence why its called worst case scenario

[@nixl3518]

@@verdebusterAP Actually YES to your NO!! So your contention is that IF the Osprey looses BOTH rotors, it will crash harder than a chopper losing ONE!! Yet in real life, if you have two rotors, its more likely one would survive a hit or a mechanical failure. A chopper does not have that luxury!! One problem and game over!! I don't see how you overcome this fact of math: Two better than one!! This essentially closes the case because it is less likely the Osprey falls as one rotor will keep it flying. If both rotors get hit, chances are the human content is eliminated along with them so there is nothing to recover!! So what if it falls any faster than a chopper??? 9.81m/sec2 applies to both; Arrival to the surface is essentially concurrent!! It's hard to see that there is any argument. Only a diehard chopper believer would be trying so hard to twist reality to benefit the chopper!! Get over it; once the tech is entirely worked out, there is nothing left to favor the chopper. There is not much more time left for choppers. Just think how hard it was for the first choppers to stay aloft and how hard it was to control them. They needed bug-people: people with six limbs rather than 4.... Seriously!! They fell much harder because their tech was much more primitive.

[@Hope4Today9]

The Osprey is a great helicopter and fulfills more roles than any other helicopter. It's so called high maintenance has come down and calling it a money pit is unfair as it has two engines to service and the tilt wing and provides great value! So comparing it against a single engine helo or twin engine fix wing misses the mark completely.

[@peterbarrett5496]

It's garbage and no doubt kept alive by some general that is getting checks to keep it alive

[@freighter1097]

Roles, not rolls.

[@Hope4Today9]

Thanks...@@freighter1097

[@Madkroniik]

thank god for your service grammar man.@@freighter1097

[@checkyoursix5623]

In my view, the V-22 Osprey still doesn't have a good enough track record. Too much spilled blood.

[@warchitect73]

er, the Pres just a couple weeks ago landed in SF's Chrissy field. Saw it myself.

[@bdhb12]

Flares to defend against air to ground missiles? I'm sure you have enough time to not make that mistake. But, there it is...

[@CallMeByMyMatingName]

I'm glad someone mentioned it. Must be some fancy flares!

[@johndododoe1411]

​@@CallMeByMyMatingNameHand operated by SS or marines after evacuating the helicopter, obviously .

[@johnwilliams1091]

At some point the v-22 could become certified. The VH-60 had a similar record early on… so much so that it was referred to as the crash hawk

[@SMcCaskill]

They aren't owned by the president so they aren't his. The Ospreys aren't used to transport the president. Marine 1 is used to transport the president from the White House to Air Force 1.

[@Doubie.]

I’d like to point out presidents were also banned from using electricity at one point because security was scared of them being shocked to death

[@zefdin101]

The one question I ask myself? Why don’t they use Osprey or Bell 280 for VMX1 presidential transport? Vertical takeoff, fast.. sounds good. The only answer I came up with is the SS probably deemed it is took risky a platform for the president. It’s kinda shitty they’d think it’s ok for Marines or Army personnel.

[@waynefletcher9884]

The V280 cannot carry half as much as the Osprey

[@andrewtestin9080]

Does the new Bell fold up?

[@shaf3006]

This didn't take into account an invisible marine one, only Joe can see😂 he will salute to an invisible marine too

[@winthropbaker5494]

Oh let him go...mite be a hoot!!

[@thanhdinh4929]

Trong trường hợp khẩn cấp thì cái gì dung cũng được mà thôi

[@garymiller5937]

The osprey is a strange looking aircraft but I guess it works well.

[@notyouraveragegoldenpotato]

No they don't lol. Those birds crash allllll the time. The marines literally nicknamed it the widowmaker because they had such a bad habit of just straight up falling out of the sky

[@nicholasespinoza9610]

wrong@@notyouraveragegoldenpotato

[@Christopher-li6gg]

All aircraft in the military inventory have had issues, from the Apache, F-117 to the F-16, and even the Blackhawk. Flying is a dangerous business, as he can fly on whatever helicopter, and the chances are just as equal. There is no guarantee in aviation, as aviation is everyone doing their job, the checks repeatedly, but every once in a while, something goes wrong, it happens.

[@chrisoakey9841]

so osprey is a money pit unlike the other marine 1 aircraft? the ability for range and speed should be exactly why osprey's should get the money to sort the reliability.

[@dickdykstra2234]

Put the SOB on the Osprey.

[@jeffreylsewell8438]

I'll bet any President would climb into a V22 Osprey if it was your only ride out! No matter it's safety record!

[@RealMTBAddict]

Its

[@johndododoe1411]

Or a tarpaulin canoe if there's no other escape from a beach .

[@CoachKen10]

He will fall getting into it like he does every other aircraft.

[@optimus3305]

They are just going to keep using Marine 1 for the whole trip, just a couple stairs.

[@marinz4life]

classic! 😂

[@Prairie1960]

That's what I was thinking...less stairs, less chance that dumb SOB will trip up the stairs.

[@bastiaan7777777]

That edited screenshot.. blech....

[@donmigueldolanza]

"Reason Why US President is Banned to Fly His Millions $ Transformer Helicopter" Well I don't know about you, but I've never seen a vegetable fly ANYTHING ...

[@johnrogers9481]

Aw shit.

[@raymondpender1709]

It's not his, it is ours, the tax payers.

[@bh7940]

Wow he made it down the stairs this time.

[@mousetyron3]

At least his hair piece didn't fly off like the clown

[@williammoreno2378]

Nor does he wear a depends.

[@thehark6247]

this theatrical production has expensive props, literally.

[@CallMeByMyMatingName]

Incredible information!

[@Project_-jq7jw]

Osprey is a great ride! I saw those all the time doing supply runs in AFG. Flying in an Osprey was by far better than any of the other chopper flights I was on. No dripping oil and was a smooth and fast flight. The complaints about it are unreasonable IMO. Basically whaa whaa boo hoo.

[@B-A-L]

So all the fatal crashes don't count?

[@dougbourdo2589]

Exactly.@@B-A-L

[@bavery6957]

My dad was in the same class at "Camp Rucker", AL as the CWO who "whisked" Richard Nixon off into the sunset back in the day. Yes, an !Army! pilot was flying "Marine One" on that mission - right before the Jarheads totally usurped the job... 😜🤩🦾

[@optimus3305]

They now need wheelchair lifts and escalators to ensure safety of the resident.

[@nixl3518]

correct! Lumbering Trump was the first one that needed these facilities, including a paperless toilet so he doesn't drag it up the stairs with his shoes! But he was never a real President, so nobody bothered!

[@YouPousti]

You get what you deserve.

[@cloudstreets1396]

Not for trump. He is more fit than people half his age

[@TIGHTENUPBOSS]

😂😂😂😂

[@atheistmecca971]

Not true and not really funny. Come up with something new.

[@chuckjackson1814]

Joe probably can't manage the steps on the new chopper .

[@kolsen6330]

The Osprey is safe enough for Marines, but not safe enough for the President or the general public. If it was a safe bird, they would be used in commercial operations. Couldnt get an FAA passenger certification in a million years.

[@JoshIngramMusic]

"Reason Why US President is Banned to Fly His Millions $ Transformer Helicopter" wtf even is that for a headline, truly confusing. Just like American politics.

[@Nightwing01010]

Your Engrish is amazing

[@lbrasanchoo5290]

💚👍

[@williamwaugh4272]

USMC Veteran, how many of these have Crashed?

[@michaelmccarthy4615]

Complex money pit Ok, order more

[@markoconnell804]

Quite numerous? Exactly what is that number per flight hours compared to the other helicopters he does fly? What you stated is just your opinion stated as fact until facts are given.

[@garystewart3110]

I would guess is because they have a terrible safety record.

[@clemclemson9259]

good put him in there and take it out over the ocean where he belongs

[@dianapennepacker6854]

Stop getting your news from TikTok. Their record is actually just as safe if not better then regular helicopters. Don't believe me? Google it and do your own research. Damn I can stand people who so confidently spout misinformation as fact.

[@rolenrodes1371]

Does it include a Childs Seat, a Sippy Cup, some Ice Cream, a Binkie and several Depends Diapers?

[@usernotfound9934]

Why’d you call it marine one as a surveillance platform?

[@johndododoe1411]

Yeah, that would be NRO One or Intelligence One, if POTUS ever boards such a vessel .

[@tioganh]

Why not save a ton of the peoples money and move the White House to Andrews Airforce Base. Wouldn't need 30 helicopters. Makes sence.

[@johndododoe1411]

That would increase the cost of trips to the capitol and supreme court , and more VIPs are doing those trips, multiplying the cost .

[@cnknguyen]

we haven't had a president in over 2 years, so these dudes have a good time to train up.

[@johnrogers9481]

Actually, the last guy was just acting-president.

[@michael1242]

@@johnrogers9481 and he wasn't a good actor

[@tentingaroundflorida]

Osprey crash alot

[@glennweitknecht2318]

Actually the crash less then other helicopters. Since 1991 there have been 13 crashes involving the loss of the aircraft. The CH-53E has had 24 major crashes since since 1984 and i don't know numbers but i would say there are far more V-22's than CH-53E's

[@elrobo3568]

The Osprey is a total piece of crap, I am retired AF and was a Sheriff's deputy when the Osprey crashed in Marana AZ killing 19 in 2010. I am also a pilot and have spoken to some Osprey pilots and they describe it as a very difficult aircraft to fly. There was another crash yesterday in Japan killing at lest one Air Force member and they are looking for survivors. This thing is s deathtrap, get rid of it.

[@iamacarnut]

The took out kennnedy out on a noll...cant they drop his ass in the ocean... and say FORGET ABOUT IT

[@nickgibb4687]

its not his its WE THE PEOPLE aka taxpayers

[@dvandkq]

Good luck trying to board it!

[@johndododoe1411]

It's his for the duration, just like any other issued military gear being referred to as "Tom's riffle", "Rick's uniform" and "Harry's shovel" if the gear survives the assignment, it's returned for reissue to another soldier .

[@x-men69-96]

Osprey is the most unreliable helicopter. That’s why.

[@randym9147]

All this fuss used to make sense. Now they are there to protect us from Kameltew being president.

[@johnrogers9481]

Now, flying us through to ‘28 when the next one, a woman comes in!

[@skeetrix5577]

who's watching after one crashed today in Japan?

[@ps3301]

Usa is running out of money

[@Al-fr1sl]

The US has no money 33 trillion in debt and counting soon to default ones BRICS is full affect tiktok until the dollar crashes

[@user-io9gw1ot1e]

استغفر الله العظيم واتوب اليه ❤

[@user-sv4of9sm4q]

Too many steps to get in or out.

[@markduncan6690]

With Chair and Walker!

[@phillipzx3754]

"Reason Why US President is Banned to Fly His Millions $ Transformer Helicopter" So which POTUS is banned? "President," is singular. 🤣

[@terryfong9110]

How many dollars are wasted transporting this sleepy old man?

[@Stubby0266]

FJB

[@ianchristopheralexander1985]

My parents has all of the coins.

[@ianchristopheralexander1985]

And they are safe keeping the coins for safety.

[@jfbaze2001]

The v-22 in the last 10years is safer than other rotorcraft. Additionally, it is more survivable during a crash.

[@peterbarrett5496]

Cuz osfreys are too dangerous

[@swampfuel20]

Aww shucks, let Rubber Mask Jo ride in it…

[@caesar1295]

Please let SLO Joe and Kamala both ride in this helicopter at the same time it will help the US greatly.

[@jason78981]

is the reason that he cant ride is because it has a tricky set of stairs to get into it?

[@vc7393]

Yes😮😮😮

[@Maisiewuppp]

At least he‘s not too fat to fit in it.

[@vc7393]

@Maisiewuppp well who might you be talking about.

[@unclebuzz6913]

Hell, he can't even walk up or down stairs of Airforce 1.. I'm sure he'd lie about it, though..

[@dvandkq]

At least he isn't a criminal defendant in multiple jurisdictions!

[@onemercilessming1342]

@@dvandkq ...YET.

[@tammyphxaz]

BECAUSE THE OSPREY IS FAR TOO UNSTABLE, THEY CRASH LEFT AND RIGHT, SCRAP THEM ALL AND START OVER, HOPEFULLY WITH A SOUND DESIGN

[@justsayingforafriend7010]

WHY? Because they are junk and crashes a lot!!!

[@lrcb40]

“Banned to fly”? Wtf grammar is that?

[@jkj9404]

The us government are way to close to the press... Its sickening.....

[@lisaschuster686]

I saw Trump come home from the hospital in a helicopter. Presidents are getting older and older but they never die.

[@geniferteal4178]

Because he calls it the ostrich? 😂

[@wp-nv3il]

All that time and treasure to move the head commie.

[@unclefart5527]

He can't ride a bicycle without crashing, why would he be allowed to fly a V-22?

[@jakerules04]

he doesnt fly the things hes in silly

[@lucast3006]

@@jakerules04It was a joke. But it’s true that he can’t even ride a bike…

[@pranavpatil8587]

Same I was thinking 😂😂

[@onemercilessming1342]

Hell, he can't walk without face-planting.

[@dvandkq]

Is it 73 indictments now for Mango Mussolini?

[@ironeagle22a]

Cause the V22 is a proven death trap?

[@patricianewman5233]

Take Brandon to the train station

[@johndododoe1411]

I was hoping he'd bring back old times by arriving to the inauguration in a presidential train like they used to . Especially after he revived the tradition of running his election campaign from home .

[@williamwatkins1849]

Let him trip up the stairs again.

[@richiemclaughlin6127]

THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT AND ALL OF THEM SHOULD SAVE US TAX PAYERS MONE AND TAKE COMMERCIAL AIRLINES. AND PAY FOR THERE OWN TICKETS

[@myfavoritemartian1]

They flew Trump in one on several occasions.

[@mrjj1f]

Can you say "boondoggle"?

[@njg26.gustav12]

Its junk. Political.

[@critical_always]

It's rediculous and way over the top. The president of a free nation should not be that important. Stop and think about that for a minute.

[@Project_-jq7jw]

He's not that important, but I would say is more important than most people as he was elected by the country. Or do you think that being elected isn't important at all, or doesn't add any importance to whoever is elected? I'm trying to understand your logic.

[@critical_always]

​@@Project_-jq7jw Nah I don't think it is terribly important who is the president. Your country is guided by the constitution and congress for day to day stuff. Thankfully. This is why one individual can not and should not be able to make unilateral decisions. Let me turn it around... Does the country come to a grinding halt when the president is shot? No. USA is much bigger than the president. I mean, look as the string of human disasters that have filled the role of president. Thank god they don't have that much power.

[@anthony4701]

And it's ugly!!!!!!!!!

[@stephenproctor8143]

I thought sleepy joe had the shot

[@BradFalck-mn3pc]

Expensive fart fan....

[@5thGenNativeTexan]

All the more reason to put Biden on one of these.

[@nivek5031]

The simple reason why US President is banned to fly his millions $$$ Transformer Helicopter, is because he is entirely incapable & does not have the necessary pilot's license. 😌

[@Patrick-co1qm]

Need to show a real president come down the stairs! TRUMP.

[@joelbranscum1803]

Even if it was safe it would burn the lawn

[@wearelosingit5835]

WE HAVE 1 PRESIDENT AND 23 HELICOPTERS.. GOOD USE OF TAX PAYERS MONEY!!!!!

[@jt-eb4sp]

HE CANT READ FROM HIS PREPARED STATEMENTS, HOW ON GOD’S EARTH CAN HE READ THE DASHBOARD OF A COMPLICATED HELICOPTER.