Billy Carson Caught Using ChatGPT to FAKE Evidence, Deletes Livestream

[@ReasonedAnswers]

Tonight we'll take a look at Billy's claims about the Old Testament and "ancient tablets." kzbin.info2Lxxw0Bqcmk?feature=share

[@RyanGazling]

🍿😎👍

[@JohnDoe-101]

Soooooooooo Billy was so sick and could barely breathe that he got up in the middle of the night and went to knock on that guys door LMFAO.

[@zeealamin7581]

Yes, sick or not people like Billy and myself will do shit like that when ppl do low down dirty crap!

[@beng7613]

He said he just wants them to spend money. That’s all you need to know about his character.

[@FIRSTASIAN]

YEP, YEP, and YEP

[@Qetesh777]

This cannot be overstated

[@docdoctor1878]

Well said. Completely correct

[@robertsr4985]

It's about time Billy Carson is being exposed...

[@atedinahalf6288]

@@robertsr4985 It's time for christianity to be exposed as well.

[@HlengiweRedeemed]

He laughs with absolutely no expression, his face stays exactly the same - dead and soulless

[@gottagetpaybaq1]

I thought I was the only one that noticed that about him.

[@Boris-1982]

​@@gottagetpaybaq1 A lot of people have noticed it from the comments i have seen on several channels. He's a strange guy.

[@phyrexianjudgement]

His God is money

[@narsakucanada154]

Please, Millions are having experiences meeting Jesus. Seek!

[@Cedawood]

Yes, his eye's just aren't involved or smile muscles...all teeth

[@nisonatic]

"I don't care if I win or lose, I just want you to spend money." And so he gives them an ironclad counterclaim of vexatious litigation... If Billy had taken Matt 5 38-48 to heart, this whole episode would have blown over long ago.

[@toomanymarys7355]

I sent his lawyer and the partners in the firm an email about him declaring that he was pursuing a SLAPP suit, so they can't pretend they don't know. Also, Billy isn't a Christian and hasn't read the Bible lol

[@mastery4living187]

Excellent statement!

[@Kayakingoff]

Don't forget the evil laugh in the end...

[@bobbydigital5236]

He lost his case before it started.

[@Xbalanque84]

​@@toomanymarys7355 When did Carson ever pretend to be a Christian?

[@saladdays180s9]

He found the lost Bible during an Amazon expedition.

[@iggidec3300]

Took me 10 sec to get it😂 thanks, that was smart

[@truthmatters7573]

severely underrated comment XD

[@putontheseglasses8809]

Print or digital version? Lol

[@JohnnyWalker-ky6mk]

😂😂😂

[@candycane3837]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Chryslers1]

Billy deserves every backlash he got for telling such lies. He wasn't sick... suddenly he bounced back. He's fake & passive abusive.

[@spody1005]

@@Chryslers1 let's not look forward to the backlash he receives, if GOD is patient enough to give him the opportunity to repent, then we should also be as patient. ( Even though I would like to rub in his stupid lying face the fact that CHRIST IS TRUTH AMEN) this monetary and social loss he is experiencing is the warning to come to CHRIST or face further, ultimate destruction

[@mayniac5.09]

and narcissist

[@hailtothe_rooster1572]

I’m not going to defend the guy but just an observation Anybody that chose to follow Billy did so on their own behalf. Billy also believes what he says even if it’s a reach without context I see tons of people crying foul for what “Billy” did. I’m sorry but they chose to follow his word, his work, and not do their own due diligence in search of the truth If anybody deserves anything for contesting Christianity it shouldn’t be criticism. We should show some compassion. Accept apologies and provide an introduction to redemption. Billy doesn’t have to join. He can continue to entertain those that entertain those ideas but I will never understand how anyone will follow a man providing guidance through old world text

[@bellah33]

Exactly, coz what excuse does he have for fake-quoting the 'Sinai bible' the other times before this debate, which he claims he was half-dead

[@BroGonz17]

​@bellah33 right. I was thinking the same thing. It's not like that was his first time making those statements.

[@SongsOfRelief]

That whole debacle was embarrassing to watch. I'm glad Wes Huff tried to let him down gently, but he was having none of it. Educational. 😮😮

[@chancevonfreund9145]

It's amazing the people who are blaming Christians now for calling him on his misinformation! No one forced him to debate or make his false claims. Thanks for the video. ✝️🙏🏻

[@houstoneuler]

It seems more logical that the only ones that could be attacking his wife and family, would be the only ones who even know he was married or had a kid, which would be the non-Christian members of his 4bidden community who now feel betrayed due to having been lied to all these years.

[@chancevonfreund9145]

@houstoneuler Well said!

[@bellah33]

@@houstoneuler Yes, it is likely his follower, but what do you expect of Billy, he doesn't have evidence to show the person who responded something mean about his son is a Christian. I also remember it was just one comment from one user. But of course he has to lie and exaggerate like there is a whole bunch of Christians coming after his son. And his wife got attacked by their followers because she posted some senseless rants defending Billy.

[@RobMonty248]

Christian history is all founded on killing and murder. So, ya cant escape that. Its like its ok to kill if you repent, so, go kill people and repent, watch what happens, Are you sure Jesus is ok with mass murder in his name and Gods name? I dont recall hearing Jesus scream out KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD>.... yall are sick, Stockholm syndrome. Church forced this on the people of the past through torture and murder... But, our God loves you. Shalt not judge, or the be judged and here there are thousands of judges lol. Yall do not even follow your own rules and repent, its stupidity and its not the way of the Christ.

[@lifestooshort6801]

This reminds me of Voltaire 🤔 A French philosopher, who predicted that in the nineteenth century the Bible would be a relic 😒 Ironically, years after his death, Christians purchased Voltaire’s home and used his printing press to manufacture Bibles 👏 God is not mocked 🙏

[@BroGonz17]

A lot of people don't know that. When i first came to christ from atheism I was in a Bible study and my teacher told me that story. It blew my mind because I knew it was GOD.

[@JohnGeometresMaximos]

I'm Orthodox Greek, so I use the Mount Olympicus Bible.

[@ArtanDanish]

Stop billying around.

[@DavidBaak]

Does that come with a recipe for Tzatziki?

[@SeanMurphy00]

Bro Billy astro travlin back 2 wen dem piramidz waz bilt. He no hiz sheet.

[@dipdupree1111]

Inappropriate ​@@DavidBaak

[@Sky-xd2nu]

You're lying. The real Olympicus bible has been hidden by the Catholics under the Vatican. It's next to the real Sinai Bible!! 😂😅😅😂

[@BEvans7]

It requires more faith to believe Billy than the moon is made of cheese

[@Tribal_Dad]

He has FIVE AC units

[@mishswb4950]

@@Tribal_Dad and doesn't know which one is broken... major flex

[@ReasonedAnswers]

Hey, his mansion isn't going to cool itself.

[@Theo6805]

And don't forget the home theatre which he fell asleep in....

[@mishswb4950]

@@ReasonedAnswers Sinai Bible will help cool the house down, I am sure with the forbidden knowledge.

[@PhotriusPyrelus]

@@Theo6805 And the elevator.

[@gregdavis2294]

I knew Billy was a fraud when he claimed the apostles were illiterate

[@TyronSmith-yo5tt]

The apostles were illiterate. The gospels were not even named,they are anonymous writings written by scribes.

[@mayniac5.09]

@@TyronSmith-yo5tthow do you know they were illiterate? assumption from billy's facts he learned from ancient texts he bought on amazon

[@TyronSmith-yo5tt]

@mayniac5.09 Galilee was a backwater fishing village and peasants couldn't read or write back then,nor until 200 years ago.

[@TyronSmith-yo5tt]

@@mayniac5.09 Galilee was a backwater fishing village filled with peasants.

[@mayniac5.09]

@ says who? can you collect taxes for Rome and not read?

[@DavidBaak]

Billy is very high on copium, and we’re witnessing him having a non-stop bad trip into denial and delusion.

[@PB_UJM]

Holy shit that’s funny and perfectly apt.

[@dolanridgecommunitychurch7433]

I’m glad his mixture of Gnostic, Kemetic Spirituality, Islamic theology, and huge dash of new age spirituality grift is over and God is using it for His glory. I pray for Billy and hope this make some people not be blind followers, and do their own research for truth.

[@wmarkfish]

He didn’t mention that he was disadvantaged because of the relative humidity being too high and not only that but the wind was blowing in a direction he wasn’t used to.

[@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid]

He’s a Sheldonite: “In the winter that seat is close enough to the radiator to remain warm, and yet not so close as to cause perspiration. In the summer it’s directly in the path of a cross breeze created by open windows there (points at a window), and there (points at another window). It faces the television at an angle that is neither direct, thus discouraging conversation, nor so far wide to create a parallax distortion”

[@0311matt]

The best part was when he showed the clip of him speaking Korean as if someone would actually dub over him in the debate. It's pretty pathetic, no wonder he deleted the video.

[@RyanGazling]

😂

[@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid]

He’s soooo… lame

[@SellTheField]

Billy Carson is so cooked he's not well done: he's congratulations.

[@LEGIOUSIAM888]

😂

[@krislaplante8055]

😂😂 fried in face palm oil

[@ElizabethBrownnn]

This video is hilarious, so well done. Informative as well, but the editing nailed it. 😂😂😂 Billy’s own laugh throughout the vid got me every time 🤣🤣🤣

[@ReasonedAnswers]

TBH, the laught is my favorite part too. :)

[@Alien_civilizations]

Was killing me everytime 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sandradube4456]

​@ReasonedAnswers you're very funny, this gave me a good laugh, too😂😂

[@SaltyBallzz]

When projection comes back to bite you in the ass ! It’s called Billy Carson

[@sentientthundertank2079]

Billy should have quit the day he installed that lift in his mansion

[@Alien_civilizations]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@bellah33]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and after losing count of the air conditioners the house. He should have known enough is enough

[@CarrieLaffs]

Billy reads real Academic books and has friends who are billionaires LoL😂

[@SolaGratia.]

The most shocking thing about this entire Billy Carson fiasco is that anyone ever took him seriously to begin with. Like, seriously, how ignorant do you have to be to believe this blathering idiot? The fact that so many professing Christians fell for it is just depressing. It proves they despise their Bible's, since they clearly do not care enough to read and study them daily.

[@skateorbri]

This video made my young child cry and say scary man ! Honestly, this video of him you CAN see the devilish demon that’s attached to him it’s scary!

[@kwradar12]

Billy is crumbling under his lies.

[@KOG.113]

Billy is crumbling under the tower of lies he had built

[@carvalone3076]

Two paragraphs give him anxiety but he's the world's expert on all these texts 🙄 Riiiiiiiiight!!

[@TheHumanSpirit]

He's not a sincere soul; he's rather malicious and self-serving. Apart from his lack of professional and personal integrity.

[@chazthethug]

hes a con man. plain and simple.

[@UNcommonSenseAUS]

Billys entire 3 hr copefest was pure confession via projection

[@h.al.8801]

I will never listen to fake Carson!

[@ianhunt5175]

I'm praying for you billy that you see the error of your ways and make amends and ask forgiveness and make apologies where nessesary 🙏

[@zadoksstudio8353]

He intentionally deceived many people. He doesn’t care if the information he spews is even credible. What a shame.

[@RyanGazling]

Emerald Tablets should be Schedule 1 😂

[@jg1772]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Tee-roni]

Very well edited video, Thaddeus 👌

[@Craig-cn8ry]

I love when our father and heaven exposes the corrupt people.How the mighty have fallen

[@CuriosityTheorist]

My dog ate my homework level excuses 😭

[@Yesaul19]

Give Billy his credit. He is smart enough to rip off tones of cash from mouth breathers. I don't think he is stupid just malicious.

[@spody1005]

I'd rather be broke and totally dependent on CHRIST, spreading HIS WORD for free than to knowingly deceive millions of people for fortune and fame. If he was any kind of smart he'd repent and seek CHRIST immediately

[@mysotiras21]

Billy is certainly desperate, now that he has been exposed and humiliated as a total fraud. If he had any sense, he would just slink out of public sight, not make his own situation worse by appealing to ChatGPT.

[@christophermccutcheonichib4256]

Billy and Drake must have the same PR team either way they need to fire every last one of them

[@showmeanedge]

I'm not the only person who downloaded his cope stream. He's a sick man.

[@ReasonedAnswers]

Definitely. I did and imagine 100s of others did too as anyone watching could see there was a high risk of it disappearing.

[@harrymacdonald858]

@@ReasonedAnswers CHRISTIAN APOLOGETICS ? I AM SORRY FOR ALL THE BS IN THE BIBLE SORRY ! A witch hunt.

[@ReasonedAnswers]

@@harrymacdonald858 Yawn. I'm sure I've heard all the drivel you've swallowed a million times, but if you really think you have anything, email me at [e-mail] and let's set up a friendly livechat on all your evidence.

[@showmeanedge]

@@harrymacdonald858 caps lock is cruise control for cool. My faith my choice, buddy.

[@Xbalanque84]

​@@harrymacdonald858 What the actual Hell are you talking about? And how is that relevant to this discussion?

[@AWW8472]

A simple Google search with the question "Does the Sinai Codex contain mentions of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ?" AI Overview Yes, the Codex Sinaiticus includes mentions of Jesus Christ's crucifixion: Matthew 27: Includes a summary of the crucifixion Mark 15:24: Includes a summary of the crucifixion Luke 23:33: Includes a summary of the crucifixion John 19:18: Includes a summary of the crucifixion However, the Codex Sinaiticus does contain some differences from the New Testament that is considered canon in the Christian Church. For example, the Codex Sinaiticus's Gospel of Mark ends abruptly after the disciples discover Jesus's empty tomb, omitting the 12 verses about the resurrected Christ. The Codex Sinaiticus also lacks the section of Mark 16:9-20, which relates to the resurrection of Jesus. Only Mark is missing the Resurrection narrative. Was Billy confusing Crucifixion with Resurrection? The foremost scholar on manuscripts, cylinders, papyrus, etc was confused about the major doctrines of Christology mentioned in 1 codex? 😮

[@stephanterblanche4597]

❤❤❤

[@toomanymarys7355]

And Mark has an empty tomb, just not the full narrative following.

[@glass1258]

I hope he saved his money because he’s gonna need it lol

[@peterplus2001]

Warning, to prevent a lawsuit or slander, be sure Billy is the winner in any sport or competetive event with no questions asked.

[@A_Realist]

For a guy who supposedly read hundreds of books a few paragraphs via text is way too much for him to handle 😂😂

[@jimbobhaha]

What a Silly Billy. . .

[@jahwarrior03]

God is a Genius!! Using Billy to expose some things! Eyes to see, ears to hear

[@mishswb4950]

Billy needs to recite the misty mountains so that Smaug can protect his forbidden knowledge of the sinai bible

[@Mid40s]

Billy ruined himself with his truth and made it worse with his lies

[@airkami]

Hello Defendant #6. I love your video!

[@ReasonedAnswers]

This might be my favorite comment yet!

[@ImCarolB]

"Why they gotta do all this for little old Billy Carson?" 🤣 Because he brags how much he makes from the credulity of hundreds of thousands of unthinking dupes, because he's a self-important spouter of gobbledegook, because he has the spending habits of a mob-connected rap artist, because he sends his wife out to yell, "He almost died!!!", etc. I'm just turned off by his deadpan expression that only breaks to give a wheezing derisive laugh. I never heard of B.C.before this, but I'm all in to see charlatans go down.

[@b.walker5955]

His opponent in court...need only to present that he SELF ADMITTED "I don't care...all I want is to make you spend money" Defending yourself against my suit. Many judges do not take wasting the courts time favorably. Judgements often reflect the judges glee in justice.

[@ReasonedAnswers]

Definitely, plus will be liable for any and all money we made defendants spend. Huge mistake admitting that.

[@villainousssb533]

Oohhh is brother Thaddeus looking 👀 down the barrel of a $1M dollar 💵 law suit. 😜 “The Sinai bible” 😂😂🤔🤪🤪

[@jaredpribyl]

I wanna see Billy’s chatGPT prompts, I know we would have a good laugh 😆

[@Mrguy-ds9lr]

Hey, great editing!

[@RyanGazling]

💯 agree. Quality edit after an epic stream

[@Debunked421]

Billy Carson is in the spiral of destruction...

[@Xbalanque84]

Intellectual dishonesty is always a deep sin.

[@IdolKiller]

I just discovered your channel by way of this video. Looking forward to seeing more of your material.

[@ReasonedAnswers]

Welcome to the channel! Here are a couple other videos you might enjoy: Mohammad Hijab on Israel-Palestine kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoXalqOQZq-YqKs Uthman Exposed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYGcf2mwf5mSg68 Debate Caused 100+ to Convert to Christianity: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJPKo2Sgfq-Mj6M

[@IdolKiller]

@@ReasonedAnswers what a smart way to greet new subs! I love this approach.

[@toomanymarys7355]

Funny thing is that I just discovered your channel recently, too. (I'm in the other stream he references.)

[@barbaragould500]

SILLY BILLY 😂😂😂 TY ...YOU ARE AWESOME ! EXCELLENT

[@Old_Catholic]

Wow. It was worse than I thought.

[@heartsky]

Got to enjoy these little gifts when they come. Billy won't be poor & on the street, but many people will now not be so easily or quickly fooled into his garbage ancient knowledge scam.

[@NJ-ky7pi]

Billy Carson is a fake, i unsubscribed from his fake podcasts 😤

[@adventurehawksancientharmony]

I would like to see him bring the receipts for all the money he generated with his GoFundMe to send to Puerto Rico

[@ftmrivas3043]

Haha this is the present that keeps giving

[@LEGIOUSIAM888]

merry Christmas 😎

[@OnTheThirdDay]

Billy is the grift that keeps on grifting.

[@mariongranbruheim4090]

Billy Carson has succombed to the affliction of parallelomania, Wes Huff tried to cure him but Billy wasn't having it!

[@phyrexianjudgement]

When your god is money! 😂

[@scotchmstr66]

This is an example of an online expert being destroyed by constantly doubling down on idiocy

[@muskyoxes]

I have yet to see "constantly doubling down" fail. If you never admit the slightest error on any point at any time, you look "strong" to the most lucrative marks in the country

[@RizzoTheLegend]

Bro your editing killin me😂😂

[@kilroyjones7786]

😂 he deserves it. He needs to humble himself. He's going mad.

[@deanarmstrong8185]

Can’t get enough of these Billy videos!🤣 this is a great summary!

[@LEGIOUSIAM888]

hey billy ... the heavens declare the glory of God...its right there in your face 😂 how can you miss it billy 🤦‍♂️

[@thienyetan2035]

0 ethics.

[@AngelAPAVLOVSCornDog]

An ounce of humility and his future wouldn't be him selling luxury cars for a living...

[@johnmoreno5965]

Man I used to love that guy. Now he takes a L, and talks about them getting sued so they spend money, I heard him even talking down on the regular people the 9-5 😳🤦 the working class. I'm lucky I can work my regular job and be a caretaker for my dad. Us regular people are the backbone of the world

[@ReasonedAnswers]

Absolutely, "regular people" are what make the world go round... and fill Billy's bank account, I might add. Guess he forgot who writes his pay checks.

[@toomanymarys7355]

He lied about everything!

[@notsocrates9529]

"Bring da receipts" I loathe this expression so much, it is almost irrational of me. Just say "documentation" and/or "proof", this is not verifying the fact you bought a jacket or pair of shoes that you are trying to return. Shout out to the Cyanide Bile. [sic]

[@soundman2604]

This video is so funny, I love the sarcasm.

[@eclecticinspiration5064]

Because when you lie you got to keep lying that's why no liar shall enter the kingdom of heaven this boy needs to get humbled repent to the father blaspheming his truth God don't play and he shall not be mocked

[@candycane3837]

Sorry to say, but it seems nowadays all you have to do is have a conversation with someone to get sued and lose money, what a mindset. You can see he is delusional in everything he says, one by one his statements start to unravel. Our God's intelligence, that he has barely bestowed upon us, is amazing in deciphering truth from lies.

[@OnTheThirdDay]

This back and forth style is perfect for epic roasts.

[@stephanterblanche4597]

Billy is using bots to attack those who comment on his performance. I encountered two.

[@ReasonedAnswers]

Yes, much of what he claims about others in the video is actually projection, so "it's quite possible" he is "spending tens of thousands of dollars on fake bots."

[@truthmatters7573]

@@ReasonedAnswers Billy seems to be quite familiar with the going rates for "fake bots" XD He also seems to be quite familiar with the use of ChatGPT

[@JohnSadaka]

@@ReasonedAnswersthis!!! Absolutely 💯

[@stephanterblanche4597]

​@@ReasonedAnswershe has no self-awareness. 😂😂😂

[@lapolicedelapensee7047]

This video is so funny. 🤣 Nice video editing. 😉

[@ReasonedAnswers]

Thank you, that means a lot to me.

[@ArtanDanish]

It’s not over for Billy! He still has more potential to ruin his career further.

[@ReasonedAnswers]

True, social media has proven there really is no bottom and one can always go lower.

[@truthmatters7573]

It's nice to see such optimism in the comment section. I too believe in Billy's untapped potential and am eagerly awaiting more of his antics!

[@ArtanDanish]

Never considered Billy an intellectual by any amount of measure and I’m not saying I’m impressed by how he got away with it for so long. He could have just kept to the realms of pseudoscience, fantasy and imagination. He needs to stop watching Indiana jones and if his podcasting please next time do it with Terrence Howard and Alex Jones where they can pretend they’re 12 for 3 hours.

[@GodIsAVow]

Truly Wicked Soul, He has been lying for Years and as GOD says, The Truth Will Be Set Free 🙏🕊️

[@polarfamily6222]

Billy Carson chose to mock God and we're seeing God reply to him on his aggression.

[@CarefulSteps1]

so cringe... but i think God is gonna use this for good. thankful for Wes who did such a great job... was kind in all this... never raised his voice, just put forth facts.

[@Godcodex77]

Christ Jesus has the emerald tablets. They’re on His throne. 👑

[@FishermensCorner]

good stuff. your tone is hilarious. I got the animated summary that catches the legal fee laugh as well.

[@recklessrenee222]

Watch out He's gonna bring a lawsuit on you next Defendant number infinity 🤣😂

[@ReasonedAnswers]

I'm looking forward to it, alright :)

[@recklessrenee222]

@ReasonedAnswers 😂 He's an absolute joke at this point

[@Ryo7_7]

Billy, or William Tyrone Karlson, has been the worst liar, criminal and grifter I've ever seen. Especially his blasphemy of Christ.

[@Thanos-kp5jr]

Apparently, Billy Carlson removed the 3-hour rant of excuses he gave as to why he did so poorly in the discussion..

[@ReasonedAnswers]

Yep, and "apologized" to his community for faking fun of "poor people."

[@toomanymarys7355]

I got Thaddeus to download it though 😂 so I have it.

[@isaackeller90]

once once humbled can we show him the way of Jesus?

[@ReasonedAnswers]

Let's hope so!

[@Kannon_BR]

If he doesn't, God will harden his heart even more... We'll see soon enough

[@bizzsays]

Wow… 2nd place to Drake for the biggest L of 2024. He could’ve skipped this embarrassing situation just by using humility. “I was wrong…” can go a long way and reinforce trust.

[@RJKYEG]

As tempting as it is to join in the endzone dance over Billy's reputation, I hope he can grow from this event, come to know Jesus, and live an enriched life.

[@taylenvila3915]

Silly Billy is very silly 🤣

[@built4speed101]

I guess the "frequencies" weren't tuned in for Billy on debate night! 🤣🤣🤣 Proverbs 18:1-2 NASB He who separates himself seeks his own desire, He quarrels against all sound wisdom. [2] A fool does not delight in understanding, But only in revealing his own mind.

[@jm3275]

That chuckle billy dose reminds me of the dog in wacky races

[@claudiarocks8844]

This video made me giggle 😂😂😂 well done 👏 Billy Fables with his dead amazon scrolls 😂😂 the Lord truly works in mysterious ways 🙏🇬🇧

[@jdsheleg8332]

I have no idea who he is, but he definitely comes through as arrogant and ignorant. That is a real bad combination.

[@rubberknees]

Let his money keep him company, I think WE are done with Billy and his lies.

[@blackbox5992]

Billy has said very wicked things against God and I'm glad he's exposed.

[@theopneustos3712]

I had never heard of Billy Carson until "the debate." Now he is the most famous person on my YT recommendations. It's hilarious Billy wants to sue Wes. Wes doesn't live in America; he is Canadian. At first I thought he was a conman, but now I think Billy is just a moron.