Rebecca, Lost in Adaptation ~ The Dom

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Dominic Noble

Dominic Noble

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Murder becomes manslaughter, mothers become evil lesbians and an abundance of Britishness becomes... well no they nailed that. The Dom reviews the 1940 Alfred Hitchcock adaptation of Daphne du Maurier's best seller: Rebecca.
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@Dominic-Noble
@Dominic-Noble 7 жыл бұрын
Sigh... Ok so if anyone wants to give me the old "You forgot" about the Narrator's disturbing visit to Maxims senile old mother in the book go ahead. I deserve it this time.
@Thraim.
@Thraim. 7 жыл бұрын
I'm more of an "Uhm actually..." guy.
@Dominic-Noble
@Dominic-Noble 7 жыл бұрын
Not much better.
@pipburnadet3275
@pipburnadet3275 7 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about it.
@abigailbmusic
@abigailbmusic 7 жыл бұрын
The Dom You're human, you're allowed to forget things. Don't listen to the haters 😊
@brittanyyates2563
@brittanyyates2563 7 жыл бұрын
Right now I feel homesick from you showing the clip from The Birds, my grandmother was a teen when they were shooting the movie in fort Bragg/ Mendocino CA. Also Cujo was filmed around the time my mom was teen in the 80's And Overboard you know with Kurt Russell & Goldie Hanh , they went to my granma bar that she used to owned
@2wingo
@2wingo 7 жыл бұрын
"Apparently, doing exactly the same shit every day was more desirable back in the 1930's." When your country loses an entire generation of young men to war and influenza followed by worldwide economic depression, I imagine that predictability starts to look pretty comforting.
@anonb4632
@anonb4632 6 жыл бұрын
2wingo It provides security and comfort without too many unpleasant surprises.
@stephsmith9911
@stephsmith9911 4 жыл бұрын
@@anonb4632 Also, they were landed toffs and in the 30s , they did
@rosemali3022
@rosemali3022 4 жыл бұрын
Guess we'll find out.
@hannahofaragon2224
@hannahofaragon2224 4 жыл бұрын
This comment hits different in 2020
@Lord_Of_Night
@Lord_Of_Night 4 жыл бұрын
This aged well...
@linessadavram
@linessadavram 4 жыл бұрын
28:18 - Maxim is suffering C-PTSD form long term inescapable emotional abuse. It causes memory loss and dissociation, which is the silent freakout he goes into, and her telling him normal stuff would be grounding. The author having the character act this way, so long ago, when it was only understood in war vets as "shellshock" is quite amazing!
@PhoenixJohnson29
@PhoenixJohnson29 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly this whole book does a wonderful job of describing the psyches of multiple people with mental health issues including the narrator with anxiety (and possibly Aspergers Syndrome), Maxim with C-PTSD, Mrs Danvers with...well insanity I guess, I’m not entirely sure, and even Rebecca herself being the textbook description of a sociopath. It was far ahead of its time :)
@Altar360
@Altar360 7 жыл бұрын
"I should not be the one freaked out by this conversation!" That made my morning
@elehcarykztorban0360
@elehcarykztorban0360 7 жыл бұрын
Altar360 i know! that was my favourite part!
@msjkramey
@msjkramey 6 жыл бұрын
19:52 for to rewatch lol
@betenoire1145
@betenoire1145 4 жыл бұрын
I love when The Dom does his role plays🥰 most entertaining
@gailcbull
@gailcbull 4 жыл бұрын
@@betenoire1145 Isn't it cute when a couple has matching facial hair.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
@@elehcarykztorban0360 Maybe Max was a little afraid of his wife after that. Which would be no bad thing.
@celestinemorningstar4851
@celestinemorningstar4851 7 жыл бұрын
As a person who maladaptively daydreams like the narrator in the book, I feel called out.
@pantasticpancake8913
@pantasticpancake8913 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, I think the lead probably had some form of anxiety.
@INANNAISHERE
@INANNAISHERE 6 жыл бұрын
I feel ya man. Same problem
@lauradavison8068
@lauradavison8068 5 жыл бұрын
Ugh... mood...
@ritzexists2201
@ritzexists2201 5 жыл бұрын
When the dom first made this review, I was both relived and terrified that there was a fictional character who did the same thing as me.
@PhoenixJohnson29
@PhoenixJohnson29 5 жыл бұрын
I feel you, I actually discovered this story from the German musical and then went on to read the book and watch the movie and I was honestly relieved to find a character that (is heavily implied to be) suffering from anxiety and goes through a lot of the same things I do, the daydreaming included. She goes through literally every possible scenario in her head and I didn’t know whether to feel annoyed or relieved because I do the same thing 😂. Honestly while I was reading that book I kept on thinking “Did du Maurier know I was going to be born 65 years later because I see a lot of myself in the 2nd Mrs de Winter and its fucking creepy”
@tobymartin2137
@tobymartin2137 7 жыл бұрын
"I feel like I'm about to pass St George's Cross out through my urethra like a kidney stone!" - The Dom, 2017
@joethehero2
@joethehero2 7 жыл бұрын
Toby Martin I say...
@thornangel16
@thornangel16 5 жыл бұрын
That entire skit was one of my favorite parts of this entire review. For an American like me, it would be like witnessing Uncle Sam grilling hamburgers on the Fourth of July while drinking soda from a stars and stripes drinking hat, then pausing for a second to belch out a bald eagle holding an American Flag in its talons.
@undeadladybug7723
@undeadladybug7723 5 жыл бұрын
@@thornangel16 Don't forget fireworks going off the whole time.
@gailcbull
@gailcbull 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Du Maurier was painfully patriotic. So much so, that her final novel was called "Rule Britannia" (1972). Kid you not. Although I suppose that's to be expected when you consider that she would've been 5 when World War I started and had a childhood saturated with wartime propaganda.
@katwernery6505
@katwernery6505 5 жыл бұрын
This book has one of my favorite opening lines of all time; “Last night I dreamed I went to Manderley again.”
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
"For Manderley is ours no longer. Manderley is no more".
@helios24601
@helios24601 5 жыл бұрын
10:15 Dom: STOP BEING SO BRITISH!!! Maxime: ***In the most pretentious British way possible*** I say!
@Darkboarder4
@Darkboarder4 4 жыл бұрын
I surprised myself actually laughing out load at that.
@gailcbull
@gailcbull 4 жыл бұрын
I started reading this book after watching this review and discovered the reason for her talking about "routine" so much. And it has nothing to do with the book being written in the 1930s. Established routines start out as the biggest challenge to the protagonist. The servants have lived in the house much longer than the lead has, so everyone has established routines that she doesn't know. It is these routines (some established in Rebecca's time and some that have come into being after Rebecca death) that make the lead feel like she's being overshadowed by Rebecca's presence. But by the end of the book, she and Maxim have established routines of their own that bring comfort after the traumas that they lived through at Manderley. In other words, routines begin the story as a locked gate preventing the lead from belonging in her own home, and end the story as the bond that allows her and Maxim to make anywhere feel like home.
@mariammosashvili4150
@mariammosashvili4150 3 жыл бұрын
Thiiiis! Couldn't have said it better myself
@gamergirl209
@gamergirl209 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who recently moved in with my boyfriend, yeah, it's really hard to find a place for yourself in an area that already feels full. Very relatable
@bulletscoded
@bulletscoded 5 жыл бұрын
"I had a Fifty Shades of Grey flashback and trashed half my house", I just studied this book for uni and literally SAME
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 4 жыл бұрын
@Cassandra I'm imagining Dominic standing outside of an empty house and insulting it.
@bulletscoded
@bulletscoded 3 жыл бұрын
@Tianruo Yang no but TRUST me I could write a whole dissertation on why that book deserves to be in the trash forever!
@Justice237
@Justice237 3 жыл бұрын
Cue a couple years later, Dominic watches the Netflix adaptation of Rebecca and has yet more 50 Shades flashbacks ... poor guy, I'm considering becoming a Patron just so I can pay for his therapy bills.
@goddessoftransitory2038
@goddessoftransitory2038 4 жыл бұрын
One thing the film had to drop that I found really important? *SPOILERS* Was that Rebecca actively goaded Max into killing her. She knew she had cancer, couldn't bear the thought of dying weak and in pain, and wanted one last bit of revenge or backstabbery or whatever the hell her problem was against Maxim (she clearly thought he'd be sent down for her murder and bring disgrace on the family name forever.) So it wasn't just a change from "totally shot her" to "whoops she slipped," but the motivation of Rebecca, who even from the grave has manipulated every single person in this story like so many dolls, was hugely important to understanding just how far she was willing to go to achieve her insane version of dominance over everything in her life. One reason that du Marier starts the book with the ending--that is, the extinguished candle life that the narrator and Max are living post-Manderley torching--is to show that having someone like Rebecca in your life can have enormous, lifelong consequences, even for people who never even met her. Max is basically a helpless old man whose only touchstone to the person he seemed to be when the narrator met him was a deep, unfathomable terror of scandal and publicity. They live the life she was living at the beginning with Mrs. Van Hopper; rootless, nomadic, no real place to call their own or even relationship beyond that of "constantly muffle anything that might trigger a flashback." Rebecca is a hurricane, a tornado, an earthquake. There's Before, and then After.
@jmarie9997
@jmarie9997 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree that Rebecca intended that Max be arrested and hanged.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
@@jmarie9997 Rebecca's story is a very sad one. Couldn't she have stayed single or married someone she actually liked?
@jmarie9997
@jmarie9997 3 жыл бұрын
@@alanpennie8013 Rebecca wasn't capable of loving another, and Max was probably the richest man around. It's also implied she's a lesbian, not socially acceptable in the 1920's.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
@Charisma Girl I seem to remember a suggestion that their sex life was ok, but it's a very long time since I read the book. I do find the ending (or the beginning!) unsatisfactory. I'd have liked our protagonist to stay at Manderley and make some kind of peace with Rebecca's ghost. The sentimental ending.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
@Charisma Girl Good point about the dreaming. Rebecca still triumphed despite being dead.
@sethsolaric112
@sethsolaric112 5 жыл бұрын
I know you dislike it, but the lead's overly detailed imaginings actually are creepily relatable to me as someone with Maladaptive Daydreaming Disorder. And her suffering from it would help make some of the stranger moments make sense, so... headcanon acquired.
@AGothNamedWednessday
@AGothNamedWednessday 4 жыл бұрын
What Maxim goes through after are huge PTSD symptoms. That's 100% what he is struggling with. As someone who has been living with abuse PTSD, and learning how to get around those symptoms, I can def relate and confirm
@ladyarcane4129
@ladyarcane4129 7 жыл бұрын
I read the book in high school. I think Hitchcock gave that girl more of a spine. She definitely came across as more mature than I read her to be. In the book she jumped at every shadow, fell for every lie people told her... It really was unsurprising that she married a cold unfeeling bas- (you know what I mean). She was truly desperate for a sense of security and independence she wasn't ready for and took the first exit anybody and I mean literally anybody gave her. Our leading male could have been bald, pock-faced, and have a dozen grandchildren and she'd still have married him.
@thuytienlives8487
@thuytienlives8487 4 жыл бұрын
You're right, Hitchcock made the protagonist smarter and braver. The protagonist was much more naive and easily frightened in the book, and she married Maxim as an escape from being controlled and disrespect. I don't judge her for marrying Maxim as an escape. Taking any means of escape is very common for abuse victims, and sadly du Maurier never says that severe anxiety, depression and marrying to escape are symptoms of abuse. She just treats it as a trivial matter.
@MouseFloof
@MouseFloof 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Dom? This is probably more suited for a trivia section if you ever do a video on such things; but... Rebecca has a special little secret in its soundtrack. In 1938; the Hammond Organ Company debuted a new instrument; an instrument so unlike the organs they were producing. It is now considered the grandfather of all modern synthesisers: The Hammond Novachord. Whenever the first Mrs. De Winter is mentioned, especially after the arrival at Manderley; the Novachord pops up to provide an ethereal; otherwordly accompaniment; and to increase the tension in the soundtrack; due to its unique sonic character for the time.
@phastinemoon
@phastinemoon 4 жыл бұрын
OMG, I LIVE for shit like this, thank you so much!
@grumpyoldman3458
@grumpyoldman3458 Жыл бұрын
Damn, that's cool.
@finickityreader5274
@finickityreader5274 7 жыл бұрын
Just as a point, first cousin incest isn't illegal in any European country, but it's very rare and most people think it is like you did. I just finished a research project on the subject. :-)
@elizabethashley42
@elizabethashley42 7 жыл бұрын
finickity reader What on earth made you choose that for your topic?
@finickityreader5274
@finickityreader5274 7 жыл бұрын
I've never flinched away from 'icky' subjects.
@anonb4632
@anonb4632 6 жыл бұрын
finickity reader It's inbreeding rather than incest. Incest is with 1st degree relatives - and arguably step-family, adopted family and so on.
@KyrieFortune
@KyrieFortune 5 жыл бұрын
I dunno in UK, but in Italy there's thia weird roundabout law where incest is legal if 1. Both of them are adults 2. There's no offspring 3. Consensual 4. There's no "public scandal", which is... very vague, because it implies it's perfectly fine if it's public but no one minds it. I know, what the frell
@anonb4632
@anonb4632 5 жыл бұрын
KyrieFortune There is a grey area with homosexual incest.
@ReddwarfIV
@ReddwarfIV 7 жыл бұрын
"My preference leans towards the fearless space captain variety" Don't think I didn't spot your pun, The Dom. Honor Harrington being the space captain of the warship Fearless.
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 6 жыл бұрын
Wow
@philkeene1895
@philkeene1895 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the little Honor shout out Dom. I have only recently found your channel and am binge watching my way through all of them. Love your style of presentation, wit and your obvious love for both Sirs Terry Pratchett as well.
@ceciliab6657
@ceciliab6657 5 жыл бұрын
The movie also really toned down that Rebecca had multiple lovers--the movie makes it seem like Favell was the only one. I'm sure it was for censorship reasons, but I thought that was an interesting part of Rebecca's character.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
I think I prefer the movie take. It makes Favell a more interesting character. Perhaps they could all have been happy if Rebecca had been able to marry the man she actually cared about.
@katharineeavan9705
@katharineeavan9705 Жыл бұрын
@@alanpennie8013 weirdly that's why I don't like it. It diminishes the power Rebecca has as this master manipulator still tormenting people from beyond the grave just to share it with some random secondary character. The idea that both he and Mrs Danvers were just devoted extensions of her will, serving her in death as in life and thinking it was mutual love, is just much more compelling to me
@jito7377
@jito7377 Жыл бұрын
@@katharineeavan9705 I share your interpretation. Both adored her and we can not tell, if any feelings were returned or both were just tools. Rebecca may have been happy for all we now. She dominated and dictated a unconventional life of freedom, while fucking everybody up and still upholding a facade of the perfect women in society. She was en exceptional character to read and hear about.
@arnesahlen2704
@arnesahlen2704 2 ай бұрын
Toned down!!?? Listen to Mrs Danvers in the doctor's office. Rebecca laughed at and disrespected multiple men!
@edgarallenhoe3518
@edgarallenhoe3518 2 жыл бұрын
Reading this book for the first time, I was absolutely shocked to find one of the most accurate portrayals of anxiety I've ever read. The insecurity, the terror of calling attention to herself, the hope that if she can just figure out what she's supposed to be doing, she will fit in, the over thinking to the point of absurdity, the loneliness... holy shit this was brutal. As a person who deals with anxiety (although not to anywhere near this extent, thank heaven), the book was able to so thoroughly entrench me in the narrator's perspective that none of her choices felt odd to me. As for the transformation at the end-- i do not know what the author intended, but to me it's the ultimate horrific consequence of the narrator's situation. We have spent this entire book with a naive, very young, clinically anxious woman who has spent months in total isolation from anyone who understands her. She is tormented by circumstance (having to figure out, by herself, how to be a member of this upper class she knows little about), by carelessness (Maxim is a callous bastard who becomes cold and angry at minor transgressions but never takes her emotions seriously), and actual malice (psychological torment by Mrs Danvers). And at the end of all this, the man she adores, who she believes she has somehow failed by not being good enough, who has never communicated with her and shows affection to her the same way he shows it to his dog, finally opens up to her. And in a few words, he reveals that he does love her, sthag he is good enough, that her belief she is inferior was never true... no wonder she'd do anything for him.
@erynlasgalen1949
@erynlasgalen1949 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I need to reread the novel for what would be my fifth time, but it seemed to me that his incidents of anger toward her were when she behaved like Rebecca unwirttingly. She's trying to be sophisticated and polished to please him and thinking she falls short, but in reality he came to loathe everything about Rebecca. If any couple needed cognitive therapy, it was those two. That costume ball scene still makes me wince. But Maxim has become so conditioned to malice that he believed it of her too.
@sidneyhorne2340
@sidneyhorne2340 7 жыл бұрын
I was just watching The Doms original video of lost in adaptation and that quality change in confidence, sound etc just needs a round of applause TBH. Ive been watching a while and I hadn't noticed until now but seriously great job Dom
@gingerstorm101
@gingerstorm101 5 жыл бұрын
Sidney Horne jumping back and forth between new and old episode really smacks you in the face with the difference. I love it! He’s grown so much! ❤️
@anthonybernacchi2732
@anthonybernacchi2732 2 жыл бұрын
@@gingerstorm101 Is it because he found out Maxim never loved Rebecca? ;-)
@Spiralobsession
@Spiralobsession 6 жыл бұрын
I think book Maxim came across as a bit sociopathic. I also liked the whole book because I identified with the main character so much. I was a lot like her when I was younger so I forgive her lack of backbone, knowing she just had a lot of growing up to do.
@Battleschnodder
@Battleschnodder 7 жыл бұрын
this is one of the funniest Lost in Adaptations to date
@harlanhardway5955
@harlanhardway5955 7 жыл бұрын
That book: OMG that book. The most terrifying book. I've had nightmares. Seriously. This and Jane Eyre. They were recommended to me at a young age as "classic love stories with a strong female lead." At age 12, this was horrifying. HORRIFYING. OMG, and then I read Ethan Frome and basically turned my back on anything labeled a "classic" for a good ten years.
@SarahElisabethJoyal
@SarahElisabethJoyal 6 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, this story is basically Jane Eyre with a much weaker protagonist.
@user-qj9en1kp1m
@user-qj9en1kp1m 4 жыл бұрын
I wish he would do a review on Jane Eyre book/miniseries with Ruth Wilson. Btw, it is quite funny that 60% of the male characters in that book are priests.
@hannahsutherland4760
@hannahsutherland4760 3 жыл бұрын
My mother specifically warned me NOT to read Jane Eyre at night. The beginning was fine, so I didn't listen to her. Learned a valuable lesson and had nightmares for months. Didn't touch another Bronte book for nearly a decade.
@JoyfulOrb
@JoyfulOrb 10 ай бұрын
ETHAN FROME WRECKED ME! I read Rebecca, Jane Eyre, Sherlock Holmes, and King Solomon's Mines, and I loved every minute of it! But Ethan Frome drove me away from Classic Literature for YEARS! I thought it was just me.
@stellacoul
@stellacoul 7 жыл бұрын
Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier has tones of the dark fairytale 'Bluebeard' to it. I can can see how Hitchcock became drawn to it. Strange that contemporary romance writers use a lot of Rebecca's themes and (aspects of Maxim's dominant personality and wilting wallflower narrator) even though it was more of a psychological horror.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
Both a little scared, Neither one prepared, Beauty and The Beast.
@wjzav1971
@wjzav1971 Жыл бұрын
I can't help but think that Gone Girl was basically a What If Rebecca faked her murder and Maxime was seriously charged with it - story.
@alannothnagle
@alannothnagle 5 жыл бұрын
Rebecca is clearly one of my favorite novels of all time. While Dominic complains about how spineless the narrator is, let me point out that the entire book is about how she GROWS a spine and becomes a powerful character by the end of the book, despite the massive class differences and self-doubt she has to contend with in her alarming situation. The proof is how she is able to write such an introspective narrative - far from Manderly which, thank God, has burned down! The psychology is flawless and many of us have experienced comparable situations over the course of our lives. While some of the adaptations are okay, they are no substitute for the novel itself.
@tomnorton4277
@tomnorton4277 5 жыл бұрын
How many adaptations are there?
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
I do wonder if she could eventually have mastered Manderley. The story does end in a partial victory for Rebecca, which is disappointing.
@alannothnagle
@alannothnagle 3 жыл бұрын
@Charisma Girl Yes, the Hitchcock version is excellent, but as we both agree, it‘s no substitute for the novel.
@sofiamatos8297
@sofiamatos8297 7 жыл бұрын
Please do "Murder on the Orient Express" from 1974, since we're getting a remake this November. It's such a great Agatha Christie book.
@sofiamatos8297
@sofiamatos8297 7 жыл бұрын
Top I meant the 1974 film vs the book.
@crazyadolescent16
@crazyadolescent16 7 жыл бұрын
Sofia Matos which movie adaptation though? There are two of them already not counting the one coming out in November.
@sofiamatos8297
@sofiamatos8297 7 жыл бұрын
The one from 1974.
@Oonagh72
@Oonagh72 7 жыл бұрын
Sofia Matos There is also a Poirot tv 📺 show Episode and it is really good.
@sofiamatos8297
@sofiamatos8297 7 жыл бұрын
Oonagh72 I know, but it's not technically a movie. I think the 1974 one should be compared to the book first.
@rebeccaliar9873
@rebeccaliar9873 7 жыл бұрын
The short, punchy sketches are used to full effect here. Very lovely. It's a happy medium between ten-minute Nostalgia Critic bits and just your lovely voice talking over clips.
@elizabethashley42
@elizabethashley42 7 жыл бұрын
Nathanael Unger That's a great point - while I enjoy the NC's sketches, they do tend to be overly long, and I much prefer the Dom's quick punchy sketches because they don't overwhelm the review or have jokes that overstay their welcome.
@castheghostthatlivesinyour1878
@castheghostthatlivesinyour1878 6 жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly.
@undeadladybug7723
@undeadladybug7723 5 жыл бұрын
And Dominic's skits are actually funny, unlike about 98% of NC's. When I was still watching his stuff I just started skipping through those obnoxious bits.
@illumenaudie
@illumenaudie 7 жыл бұрын
I heard about the novel Rebecca last year while reading an article online and was so drawn in by description that I went and bought it the next day and started tearing through it. I avoided spoilers religiously but as I got almost halfway through I accidentally ruined it for myself for embarrassing reasons. I read alot of older novels and find that it was very typical up until the past 50 years or so to never mention sex between a married couple directly, just to imply it. So after the protagonist gets married to her much older husband and he becomes somewhat distant I found myself wondering if this would be one of those novels which doesn't feel the need to outright tell the reader about their sexual relationship; but since Rebecca's sexuality was already being implied I became confused. Apparently I thought it was a big enough deal that I had to google it, and in my feverish attempts to find out if our young protagonist was boinking her cold husband I got my answer - in the same sentence that mentions the big twist. Just like you described, after finding out the twist I found that I just wasn't interested in the protagonist's life anymore. I occassionally pick it up to drive through some chapters but I haven't brought myself to finishing it. That's what I get for being a pervert
@kkok9666
@kkok9666 3 жыл бұрын
So, did they do it or not?
@user-qj9en1kp1m
@user-qj9en1kp1m 4 жыл бұрын
In the movie the reason why Danvers tricks the Narrator to wear the same dress as Rebecca is because she had all her diaries and letters burned. In the book it happens after Maxim finds out that Favell came to the house and Danvers thought it was the new Mrs. De Winter who told her husband about it, when in fact it was Crawley.
@CuckooKukri
@CuckooKukri 3 жыл бұрын
This is going to sound so sexist, though I don't mean it to be -- Rebecca is a woman's story. I think every woman has had the experience of comparing herself to another woman that she perceives as perfect. All of the anxieties the heroine goes through are SO relatable. The desire to run a household and be the perfect wife, mother, and hostess coupled with the fear of all of those things. I just felt so SEEN by the narration, and I think this is a classic because so many women feel the same. Also, I don't think the heroine's change came from learning that Rebecca was terrible -- it was from knowing Maxim loved her. That was genuinely all she needed.
@mrsnatural2368
@mrsnatural2368 2 жыл бұрын
Hm, nah. I'm a woman and I really haven't had that experience.
@noheterotho179
@noheterotho179 2 жыл бұрын
I agree! Although the wording of 'every woman' is hyperbolic, even as someone who hasn't personally experienced what you describe, your interpretation is very astute and well put :)!
@karfunkelstein713
@karfunkelstein713 4 ай бұрын
I agree. I could feel the narrator so much!
@sergentharker7182
@sergentharker7182 3 ай бұрын
Rebecca is Jolene in book form
@MrZerothejedi
@MrZerothejedi 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who literally just got out of a situation with a manipulative liar, you have to do so much work to keep your own self worth and your idea of who you are I can completely agree with Maxims decision to blow Rebecca away. Humanity is better off without creatures so vile.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
How easily you buy a murderer's self - justifications.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
@Charisma Girl Yep. In those days it was understood that if the wife wanted a divorce the husband took the fall. Booked a hotel room, hired a professional co - respondent.
@MrZerothejedi
@MrZerothejedi 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna smoke some pot and watch some losers freak out about how someone recovering from an abusive relationship thought that murdering their abuser was justified. Do you both ever put yourself in others shoes, or do you just see things you don't agree with, get upset, and then throw shit at the wall? If I cared I'd be most curious as to how you say divorce wasn't possible, then you both go on to describe how to divorce people. Additionally interesting is how if a woman in "those days" (sources req. On those divorce proceedings you stated) cheated on and hurt her man, he was expected to file up for her bullshit. At least in a modern court there are factors which decide who pays who. Anyway, that's my two cents on my year old post. Glad to say I'm in a better place, but I don't expect either of you to understand or care. And frankly, after making me have to do all this explaining, I don't give a fuck what you think 😁 Edit: After literally a moment of searching my own memories and going "Wait, I met my much better girlfriend a year ago..." I can 100% say that this comment suffers from KZbin not aging comments better. The original comment you two are being dicks over is TWO years old.
@SebastianGrimthwayte
@SebastianGrimthwayte 3 жыл бұрын
“I should not be the one freaked out by this conversation!” 🤣
@jamesbirdman9983
@jamesbirdman9983 7 жыл бұрын
For some reason this kinda makes me wanna see The Dom do Gatsby.
@AliceHobbes
@AliceHobbes 7 жыл бұрын
Jackson Birde which version of the movie?
@amandajohnson3531
@amandajohnson3531 7 жыл бұрын
All of them.
@petehill7280
@petehill7280 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe a DomOsars. Who knows?
@EllieC130
@EllieC130 7 жыл бұрын
Pete Hill I don't think two is enough unfortunately.
@amandajohnson3531
@amandajohnson3531 7 жыл бұрын
There's been six Great Gatsby movies..... one just called G and I believe is more inspired by than a full adaptation.
@bondfall0072
@bondfall0072 7 жыл бұрын
Spoilers for the birds: The birds short story is actually really good. You should review it. I had to write an essay about it in middle school about my interpretation of the bird attacks. (I thought the author was expressing the fear she felt about the during the battle of Britain . The final section where the family is walking out of the house to see the birds just staring at them was symbolic of Nazi occupation, and trying to carry on while being scared for your life and family.)
@jennytony3535
@jennytony3535 4 жыл бұрын
I always read rebecca as emotionally abusive - in which case when it comes to the reveal maxim doesn't get more sympathetic but the narrator's relief makes her much less so and based on daphne du marier's life i suspect that's on purpose
@jennytony3535
@jennytony3535 4 жыл бұрын
To clarify - because maxim is an arse. No one should suffer emotional abuse
@meganswaine4135
@meganswaine4135 4 жыл бұрын
I actually found the main character really relatable, and I never thought that she was spineless- just that she was raised to be meek (read: lower class) and wasn't sure how to handle it when she was escalated to an upper class station. She had a real case of impostor syndrome. She didn't want to look foolish in front of the help. (Also, I'm a serial daydreamer myself and 100% get where her head's at ) It's the same reason she's perfectly confident when talking to her personal maid. The main character hangs out with her a lot, visits her maid's family and goes for walks with Frank, and that comes totally natural to her. She's comfortable with people from a background she's more familiar with. As for Maxim's behaviour in the book, keep in mind it's all from her perspective. Maxim loves her but she doesn't feel deserving of him, so she's timid around even him. He complains at one point that she spends more time talking to Frank than to him. Maxim can't open up because he's haunted by the murder he committed, and she can't open up because she scared of looking childish to him. (Even though, annoyingly, he prefers her child like nature. Ugh.) Also, neither one of them knows what a healthy relationship looks like. I interpreted the scenes of them moving around as a description of how they could never really feel secure knowing that Maxim had committed murder and might someday be found out for it.
@bartolo498
@bartolo498 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the girl is way out of her depth and aware of it. I am actually surprised that this seems to be such a strange notion nowadays. Sure, society and social relations are very different than 80 years ago, but it's basically a very similar plot element to Harry in is first year at Hogwarts. Also the psychology of the "shadow of Rebecca", a strong personality but actually evil manipulator is very well done. It's somewhat sensationalist and middle brow at best but back then, it was a novel thing. Also the covert eroticism (Mrs Danvers basically being in love with Rebecca and the latter being a multiple adulteress) was somewhat risque 80 years ago. The only other book of du Maurier's I read "My cousin Rachel" is even closer to what would be called erotic thriller today (of course rather slow and non-explicit).
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
@@bartolo498 This is really a story where the bad guys win. If you think of Rebecca as a bad guy that is.
@scottishgamegrumps3644
@scottishgamegrumps3644 7 жыл бұрын
Oh I think this may be my favourite Lost in Adaptation
@LaydiNite
@LaydiNite 2 жыл бұрын
I think book-version Maxim may have acted the way he did due to dealing with Rebecca's narcissistic behavior. The cold, closed off responses could be the result of the emotional abuse he had dealt with. Sometimes people in those situations sort of learn to shut off outward signs of emotion to avoid presenting a target, since narcissists often do things to intentionally upset others, then blame them for having a reaction and gaslight them into thinking there's something wrong with them. Couple that with the description of Maxim's behavior at the end, and it sounds like he's dealing with some PTSD from his time with Rebecca.
@dagleni2122
@dagleni2122 7 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos you have done so far. I'm really glad you mentioned the influence of the Hays Code and the homophobic take on Mrs. Danvers. I thought that if you hadn't talked about it, one of those would became the new "Gary Stu" or "red shoes changed because of the technicolor".
@jliller
@jliller 7 жыл бұрын
Mrs. Danvers needs motivation for her behavior, but that motivation doesn't need to involve lesbianism. Having her being a mean-spirited obsessive mother figure blind to her daughter-figure being an utter bitch is a fine explanation.
@lunabearsong2043
@lunabearsong2043 6 жыл бұрын
jliller Exactly!
@cabbagiez3018
@cabbagiez3018 5 жыл бұрын
Anon B Eight months late but, villains can be gay- but they should not be the only gay characters in the thing. Because for years villains were the only gay characters around
@Wednesdaywoe1975
@Wednesdaywoe1975 5 жыл бұрын
@@satireknight Hitchcock despised all women. Bi and gifted as a storyteller would be enough to make him crazy.
@askask7468
@askask7468 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Virago edition of Rebecca where there is an explanation of the novel of sorts - In this , Mrs Danvers was clearly portrayed to have sexual feelings for Rebecca and Rebecca played on this to manipulate and make Danvers fiercely loyal to her. While I don't think this book is homophobic, to me this relationship makes much more sense and explains Danvers' anger towards Maxim and the narrator. I think the fact that Rebecca was such a cruel , manipulative woman was revolutionary for a novel at the time.
@wilsonkierankitsune
@wilsonkierankitsune 3 жыл бұрын
The "Book is just too British" sequence is still one of the funniest things I've ever seen
@Madriddler
@Madriddler 7 жыл бұрын
Wow I don't know why but the Dom looks REALLY good in this episode. ...maybe I'm a sucker for the vest and button down shirt combo. Also love the earring.
@arthurkrieck1
@arthurkrieck1 4 жыл бұрын
The author of the book told an interviewer why the second Mrs deWinter has no first name: she simply couldn’t come up with one. That’s it, no mystery.
@AquaLantern
@AquaLantern 7 жыл бұрын
Too British? That's actually a complaint I had with the British 'Avengers' movie I saw a while back with Uma Thurman. Such insane crazy sh*t happens to everyone in that film and no one responds with more than a polite smile :/
@NitroIndigo
@NitroIndigo 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is your funniest review. My favourite part is "I SHOULD NOT BE THE ONE FREAKED OUT BY THIS CONVERSATION!"
@ViaDiva
@ViaDiva 5 жыл бұрын
Awww, I love love love Daphne du Maurier, she's essentially my favourite writer together with Stefan Zweig! Rebecca isn't my favourite work of hers, but I love it anyway given how critically acclaimed it is - not just a film adaptation, but a darn musical dedicated to it! Aaaanyway, with this bit of info out, comments: I - unfortunately - rely very very much to the lead, both as a mad fantasy idiot and as a woman with no backbone. I mean, I'm smart enough to recognize that, ehehe. Like, I do think of future improbable events, maybe not as detailed as the lead, but still. And oh I can so relate to this part you reenacted, with Maxim confessing his crime and the lead only hearing one thing. Allow me to explain: - you are, as stated, a woman with no backbone; - your life is utterly boring and non-exciting; - a rich charming fuck appears and seems to be taken by - whoa what - by just silly plain you? like, for real? - the fairy tale is obviously doomed with having to go away but - whoa what - a marriage proposal? whaaat? - magical long honeymoon still with a sense of impending doom - that is, going back to Manderley; - you are focken unsuited for this kind of life and just generally look like a joke to people; - your very dearly beloved husband, who saved you from a very sad lonely life indeed is getting grimmer day by day; - you can't forget how he must have loved his first wife even without that creepy scary AF Mrs. Danvers; - all this combines into the nagging fear of "oh shi~, he doesn't love me anymore, and probably actually never did, because of course there was Rebecca!"; - fear keeps growing more and more until the fateful event and the unfortunate dress choice; - you are almost talked into taking your own useless life thinking what little love he had for you is surely gone thanks to Mrs. Danvers; - almost persuaded that you've lost him forever you hear of a body being found; - the only thing you can think about while approaching him is how not to lose the little love he has left; and then he tells you that not only he didn't love her, he has brutally treated by her and lost his shit in the end and now that he finally found his true love - whoa what? Like, I am recapping all this and I am myself horrified at how much I relate. It might be that this book actually helped to shape me as a person and this is why I relate this much? Anyway, all this is to point out that the change I hate the most is definitely the accidental death vs. the actual killing. Like you said, it makes Maxim and the lead look quite different, and honestly makes the whole thing somewhat less exciting in its fuckedupedness. Hopefully this will help anyone to understand the lead a bit better. Probably fine if you don't get it anyway, I am aware that I am not a very sane person. Massive, massive thanks for reviewing this! Here's hoping you get to Zweig at some point, why not to pick the brilliant Joan Fontaine again and study Letter from an Unknown Woman? And if you can be persuaded to tackle du Maurier's Scapegoat, which has two adaptations, one of them very recent and very loyal - imo - ah, I can't imagine!
@goddessoftransitory2038
@goddessoftransitory2038 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the inescapable point that if the narrator hadn't grabbed at the bizarre life raft of Max's proposal, she had no other way out of her terrible life! She had NO money and no means of support. Her father, "a very lovely and unusual person," apparently left her with a unique name that's never spoken and not one red cent. Max not only seemed like some kind of replacement fantasy father, but a very solid leap away from the constant buzzing low level panic that is personal poverty and utter dependence on a horrible person liking you from day to day (of course the marriage--surprise!--turns out to be more of the same.) But can you blame her for marrying him even without the emotional components?
@undeadladybug7723
@undeadladybug7723 5 жыл бұрын
My theory is the protagonist/narrator is named Rebecca, too, which would be a really sick twist, don't you think?
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
It would certainly add another level of creepy to Maxim.
@anthonybernacchi2732
@anthonybernacchi2732 2 жыл бұрын
@@alanpennie8013 Yikes! I never thought of that in all the years since I read the book.
@user-qj9en1kp1m
@user-qj9en1kp1m Жыл бұрын
It would be funny, weird and creepy but it's probably not. In the book it's mentioned that the new Mrs. DeWinter has a very lovely and unusual first name which is rarely spelled correctly. On the other hand my head cannon was that Her name is also Daphne, but I guess we'll never know. I wonder if she chose an actual name for the main character and chose not to reveal it or not.
@jaysea5939
@jaysea5939 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't realise until now how much the lead looks like Rosamund Pike.
@ingridsingleton9533
@ingridsingleton9533 3 жыл бұрын
I watched the original film adaptation of this as a child with my grandparents and was completely scarred. I remember thinking Ms Danvers was the scariest character I had ever seen
@emmahaines6087
@emmahaines6087 7 жыл бұрын
Despite the fact you kept referring to Hitchcock and Selznick as a 'dream team', apparently they had an ongoing feud over the course of this film due to the fact that Hitchcock had a different vision for the film but Selznick forced him to be more faithful to the book. Hitchcock was so dissatisfied with the finished product that he effectively disowned the film and made sure to be more perfectionistic (is that a word?) in the future, and to never work with Selznick again.... which is a shame because I quite enjoyed the film but whatevs
@tomnorton4277
@tomnorton4277 5 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Hitchcock a "mean spirited, sexist wanker?" If he'd had his way, what would he have done to the protagonist? Remember, this was the guy who had a man murder a woman in a shower after watching her change and then dump her body in a swamp. I know that he made great movies, some of which have become among the most celebrated in history, but in this case - and I can't believe I'm writing this because I very rarely side with producers unless they're either Jon Landau or have a history of making good movies themselves - I think Selznic was right to give Hitchcock a bit of restraint.
@peternickle1884
@peternickle1884 4 жыл бұрын
Which is weird, because it’s his only Best Picture Oscar. Selznick insisted on accepting it, BTW
@SwiftFoxProductions
@SwiftFoxProductions 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomnorton4277 The plot point you're mentioning from "Psycho" (i.e. murdering a woman in a shower after watching her change and dumping her body in a swamp) is, actually, taken entirely from the original "Psycho" novel by Robert Bloch. So, regardless of what Hitchcock was like as a person, those scenes have literally nothing to do with his influence on the story. That moment is even softened a bit in the film in comparison to the book. In the original novel, the peephole is in the bathroom, rather than the bedroom, resulting in him not only watching her change but, also, witnessing her dance naked in front of her mirror. Then, when he murders her in the shower, he full-on decapitates her. So, yeah... that scene was, actually, taken down a couple notches in Hitch's version. But, no question, Selznick was a very talented hands-on producer who absolutely helped make "Rebecca" into a great cinematic interpretation of the novel and a great film, in general. Hitchcock was the kind of director more interested in his own vision than necessarily staying true to any source material so, no doubt, he would've changed a number of things in "Rebecca" if left to his own devices. That said, I'd actually be really curious to know what specific aspects of "Rebecca" he had considered changing....
@phastinemoon
@phastinemoon 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice had a horrible falling out, but they were amazing together.
@ТрајчеДимитровски-э1х
@ТрајчеДимитровски-э1х 6 жыл бұрын
I like your review- even though the movie is good, I prefer the book which is a very weird psychological kind of novel. I think that by altering the plot elements you already analyzed they completely changed the outcome, I mean the movie is much more simple and romantic than the book, and makes it very straightforward that Max is the good guy, while Rebecca and Denvers are definitely the antagonists. It the book I was left feeling that the real truth was left untold, and Mrs No name De Winter as a narrator is much more unreliable, along with all the sources the information about Rebecca comes from.
@kajamiletic3223
@kajamiletic3223 7 жыл бұрын
I kind of feel that the change in the lead's self-esteem was handled better in the movie and that this was done to make the character undergo some kind of actual change and come off as more palatable. If she learns to stand up to the ghost of Rebecca on her own, she has some sort of character arc and changes as a person. If she just changes because the thing that was putting her under pressure is magically solved by the plot, then that's no actual change at all - she's still a doormat, she just isn't being put in any situation that is triggering her cripplingly low self-esteem. This actually could tie up into her reaction to finding out what happened to Rebecca - in the book all that matters to her is that her man loves her because she's still a doormat and cannot see beyond whether she lives up to his expectations or not. In the movie she already got some kind of independence so she focuses more on what actually happened and the implications of it.
@carolineimmelman8944
@carolineimmelman8944 7 жыл бұрын
I actually found DuMurier's style compelling. I have read this book three times now (As well as listening to an audiobook of it many many times) and I still love it.
@Isrjisoneavalable
@Isrjisoneavalable 7 жыл бұрын
Rebbecca is one of my favourite film and books. Mrs Danvers is such a fascinating and interesting character
@ZekeAxel
@ZekeAxel 4 жыл бұрын
Rewatching this before the Rebecca 2020 one.
@MariaThePotterNut
@MariaThePotterNut 2 жыл бұрын
9:00 Idk but I think using "A church where serman were never told" brings to mind not just musky, but more of the feeling related to it, with how abandoned churches have different vibe than other abandoned buildings. Unsettling, like she doesn't belong there. The word choice also brings to mind something unholy, or demonic, which depending on the context of the scene or other events that happen in the library, could be connected.
@user-qj9en1kp1m
@user-qj9en1kp1m 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: when they were filming this it was suggested that at the end there should be a big letter R made of smoke, as the mansion burns down, but either O'Selznik or Hitchcock said that it would be weird. Hence the burning nightgown case with the embroided letter R.
@shikkithefirst5393
@shikkithefirst5393 Жыл бұрын
So it's quite fitting that the logo for the musical version is a big flaming letter R
@user-qj9en1kp1m
@user-qj9en1kp1m Жыл бұрын
​@@shikkithefirst5393 I guess so. Also on stage it would be very hard to showcase a small piece of fabric in a way that that peoply in the back row can see it too. I guess things come full circle. I really like the musical.
@jamesturner6979
@jamesturner6979 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video as always.
@reevesavage
@reevesavage 7 жыл бұрын
It would tie in perfectly with this as the boys that it was based on were Daphne's cousins
@shironerisilk
@shironerisilk 4 жыл бұрын
''Fun''fact: Du Maurier probably plagiarized a Brazilian author to write Rebecca. Carolina Nabuco wrote The Successor 4 years before, translated it into English and sent it to the same publisher who published Du Maurier back then. Even Du Maurier's biographers say she probably read it and plagiarized it and then Rebecca was born.
@210abcxyz
@210abcxyz 4 жыл бұрын
him acting out the scenes with the lead and the husband had me in tears
@bef9612
@bef9612 7 жыл бұрын
I had to read this book at the age of 14 and really related to the main character. Grew out of that real quick.
@Broadwaychica
@Broadwaychica 7 жыл бұрын
I just realized... technically speaking, the ship wreck that brought in Rebecca's body stopped the Narrator from committing suicide....so ironically Rebecca's return from the grave saved her life. That's different...also the thought occurs that Rebecca might have WANTED Max to kill her. Why else would she lie about being pregnant? She counted on Max finally losing it and sparing her a long, painful death...so wow The Dom, thank you for a thought provoking episode. I read this book ages ago and you made me realize new things about it!
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
It does look like a case of suicide - by - Max. Though only if you believe Max's account.
@hybridtheory269
@hybridtheory269 5 жыл бұрын
I just finished reading the book and I really liked it. The overshadowing presence of Rebecca, the mystery surrounding her and the big plottwist. At first I also found it a little dragging at places but I got used to it and sometimes even enjoyed how descriptive the writing was. Also I more or less agree with most of what you pointed out that bothered you. And although I have to admit that I am a little bit like the narrator myself sometimes and therefore, can't be too mad at her (imagining detailed conversations with people (that mostly will never take place) or being doubtful of myself and then easily convinced by others) I was still bothered by how spineless she was at times and I was literally laughing out loud at each sketch of yours because you just nailed the "problems" of the book!
@hirobeez
@hirobeez 4 жыл бұрын
It does make me question though, is Maxim more sympathetic in service of his "accidental" widow status or was this accidental death chosen in service of making the character even more sympathetic? Although I understand the governing censorship, I would imagine there would be different ways to go about it. Also I should mention, it does seem interesting that by changing the circunstances of the death, the character APPEARS sympathetic, but if I interpreted it correctly you actually can't tell definitively how truthful is his statement, even if his justification is very logical. Isn't it interesting to consider the possibility that he was just so good at manipulation that he got away with actual murder?
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good point. We have only Maxim's word for it that it was an accident. But of course he was an English gentleman and would never tell a lie.
@godzillasaurbuttersworth3176
@godzillasaurbuttersworth3176 7 жыл бұрын
This movie comes up a lot in film history and/or queer film classes, as an example of of the questionable depictions of gay people at the time. Ms Danvers is clearly obsessed w Rebecca, which fits w period trend of 'gay people can exist, but we can't say the word gay and they have to exist as jokes, tragedies, or villains'. There's a clip on KZbin of the documentary The Celluloid Closet (which talks abt the history of queer people in movies) that discusses this movie in particular.
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 6 жыл бұрын
Well it wouldn't be nice to be gay and american at that time
@anonb4632
@anonb4632 6 жыл бұрын
Thomas takes a toll for the dark Daphne du Maurier wasn't American.
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 6 жыл бұрын
@@anonb4632 huh... Wait this doesn't take place in America?
@sunchasericeserawings7166
@sunchasericeserawings7166 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas takes a toll for the dark it takes place in England
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunchasericeserawings7166 huh cool. Same thing anyway
@MissLiliDelaney
@MissLiliDelaney Жыл бұрын
I came back to this LIA after seing in Vienna a poster for the MUSICAL while on Holiday. That's how I introduced you to my bff 😊
@floraposteschild4184
@floraposteschild4184 7 жыл бұрын
Although I understand and partly agree with your criticisms, but Maxim and the unnamed narrator are intended to be grey characters, and not an ideal hero and heroine. Yes, they had those in old books and movies.
@autumnphillips151
@autumnphillips151 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Dom! I was really hoping you would consider doing "Hannibal", by Thomas Harris... This is the last book chronologically in Harris's series, and the movie adaptation butchered (pun partially intended) nearly everything about it - especially the ending. More recently, there was a TV show inspired by Harris's book series that butchered the story and characters even worse than the movies had... Because of this, it really would mean a lot to me if you could address and bring attention to these changes. I understand that it would probably be too much to cover all four books in the series, but I think it would be very sufficient if you were willing to discuss the changes made between the last book, "Hannibal" (1999), and the movie that was initially based on it, "Hannibal" (2001)... Thank you! :)
@Angel-kl1ml
@Angel-kl1ml 7 жыл бұрын
If you get on an older movie kick, the Collector (the love struck kidnapper one, not the dismember-y killer one) was a pretty disturbing book and movie but definitely had its differences.
@Rikku147
@Rikku147 7 жыл бұрын
Wait. So. It's literally Jane Eyre with a weak protagonist? Weird...
@Broadwaychica
@Broadwaychica 7 жыл бұрын
Rebeca A. O.O Whoa...mind blown. There really is nothing new under the sun. xD
@Azmodeus87
@Azmodeus87 7 жыл бұрын
*similarity. have a nice day!
@Wednesdaywoe1975
@Wednesdaywoe1975 5 жыл бұрын
Jane Eyre allows Roarke to pinch her til she bruises and writes off his abuse of his ill wife as unimportant. I think they are very much the same.
@nhmisnomer
@nhmisnomer 4 жыл бұрын
JANE EYRE SPOILER AHEAD -- I read somewhere that 'Rebecca'was Daphne Du Mourier's take on what it would be like if Jane Eyre had stayed with Rochester after finding out he had a wife trapped in the attic. Instead of standing on moral principle and getting out of there.
@edennis8578
@edennis8578 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wednesdaywoe1975 Ok, I don't know wth you're talking about. Who is Roarke and where in the book does it say that he pinches Jane? If you mean Rochester, I don't recall that he pinches Jane, or physically abuses her at all. As far as the "sick" wife, omg! I suggest that you go back and read the book. That wife was a deranged, violent lunatic who tried to kill anyone who came near her with her bare hands, and kept trying to burn the house down. She was damned lucky to have a husband who didn't just stick her in one of the torture dungeons that passed for insane asylums back then. He paid dearly for his kindness, too. I would've had her shut up in an institution and hoped she died of pneumonia. Since her family hid her burgeoning insanity from him before the marriage, and since she participated in the deception, in my opinion he went way above and beyond what his duty required.
@sybillestahl8646
@sybillestahl8646 5 жыл бұрын
I read this book decades ago, never saw this version, but recently watched the one with Charles Dance as Maxim. I was taken aback by how abusive and controlling this ‘hero’ was.
@LucyLioness100
@LucyLioness100 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite films by the Master of Suspense. His adaptation of “Rebecca” is wonderfully atmospheric & the casting was brilliant especially Joan Fontaine as the narrator/heroine
@mollywantshugs5944
@mollywantshugs5944 2 жыл бұрын
The elaborate fantasy thing is something I absolutely did growing up. A lot. It turns out that an undiagnosed mood disorder (officially marked as Depression but I’m not convinced that I don’t have bipolar instead), the extreme isolation that autism can bring, and a deep sense of otherness can make for a very weird child. Anyway my point is that the fantasies described are totally realistic for someone with mental health problems (the narrator definitely does) to experience and even act out.
@PorgWitch
@PorgWitch 7 жыл бұрын
Rebecca is my favorite Hitchcock film, I grew up watching it. It was such a pleasant surprise to see this classic has not been forgotten. Wonderful job!
@CinnamonGrrlErin1
@CinnamonGrrlErin1 5 жыл бұрын
I think part of the rambling nature of the book is because it's essentially an updated version of "Jane Eyre," which also has had some great adaptations just by trimming it down a bit.
@luciesimpson6437
@luciesimpson6437 4 жыл бұрын
DON'T KNOCK ALTON TOWERS! I had to suffer my entire family (including smug big sister) going on about how great all the rides were (that I was too short to go on, being 4), and I still remember enjoying it!
@barleysixseventwo6665
@barleysixseventwo6665 7 жыл бұрын
The one true shame About lost in adaptation is that unlike Linkara you started with a video series instead of doing text reviews. So we'll never get a lost in adaptation of lost in adaptation!
@bugeyedmonster2
@bugeyedmonster2 4 жыл бұрын
Has anyone seen the BBC "Rebecca" mini-series, with a young (and skinny) Jeremy Brett from 1979? Some of the stuff mentioned in the book, but left out in Hitchcock's movie is in this British series. It definitely mentions that Mrs Danvers raised Rebecca. Mrs. Danvers recounts this scene of a young Rebecca brutalizing some poor horse for... I can't remember now, I think the poor horse bucked her a bit. (I guess being patient with animals wasn't a thing for Rebecca.) The bit about Maxim having killed Rebecca is definitely in the mini-series. He confesses to Mrs. deWinter how he killed Rebecca, and then made holes in the ship to cause it to sink. The mini-series ends with Maxium and Mrs. deWinter coming to Manderly and seeing it in flames. And side note- hence why I big on "NO FAT SHAMING!" This "Rebecca" series shows a young Jeremy Brett, before his diagnosis as bi-polar, and his needing medication for it. If you go look for the last two season of Granada's "Sherlock Holmes" series, you'll see the changed medication made in his waistline and figure. Poor guy was having weight gain and water-retention issues due to medication for his mental issues. And I'll step off my soap-box here, as this is a whole 'nother rant/ blog/ posting/ video.
@dmitryboardman9762
@dmitryboardman9762 3 жыл бұрын
They changed the time where the narrator stood up to Mrs. Danvers to make that the reason she was tricked at the ball. In the book, she was set up in the prank because Maxim found out about Favell's visit and Danvers blamed her.
@jeanproctor3663
@jeanproctor3663 4 жыл бұрын
"I'M NOT THE ONE THAT SHOULD FEEL FREAKED OUT BY THIS CONVERSATION!" That line made me chuckle a bit more than maybe it should have. :D
@aletheaspeaks2389
@aletheaspeaks2389 4 жыл бұрын
Ms. DeMaurier wrote in many different voices. Because of this I've generally enjoyed her short story collections more than her longer novels. But they're good too.
@annematusiewicz3712
@annematusiewicz3712 7 жыл бұрын
"A story that frustrates you as well as it entertains you . . . " Thanks for putting into words something I've thought for quite some time. And thanks for the video!
@NeeneeH
@NeeneeH 6 жыл бұрын
Rebecca is one of my moms favorite Hitchcock films but I’m just finding out it was based on a book. I love this video!
@BingChilling1111
@BingChilling1111 7 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, I've been sent home from school as I'm ill and The Dom has got a new list in adaptation! Cheers The Dom
@alexfraze12087
@alexfraze12087 7 жыл бұрын
The Brit show wait, you have school right now? I got out a couple days ago lol
@seithroil
@seithroil 7 жыл бұрын
The Brit show hope you feel better soon
@masterday9207
@masterday9207 7 жыл бұрын
Could you do more Stephen King horror, please ( misery,IT,Carrie,Christine,Salem's lot).
@KidSnivy69
@KidSnivy69 5 жыл бұрын
The Mist
@drawnseeker
@drawnseeker 7 жыл бұрын
This is one of my personal favorite KZbin channels. keep up the great work. I do agree that the lead is way to passive. I had to read the novel in high school and this was around the time I discovered Tamora Perices Song of the Lioness series. For a high school girl her books along with stuff like The Twelve Kingdoms made me realize how cool female leads could be. So to go from a series about the kickass adventures of a Lady Knight to this pissed me off. She's so weak willed that spent most of my read getting upset with her not even attempting to stand up for herself.
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint 5 жыл бұрын
drawnseeker Oh I discovered Tamora Pierce and Alanna around the same age. Funnily enough I wound up in the military.
@x_8643
@x_8643 5 жыл бұрын
"I should not be the one freaked out by the conversation" I love your writing
@phantomsearcher2.92
@phantomsearcher2.92 Жыл бұрын
Dom: "If you have seen it, please feel free to skip ahead." Me (who has seen the movie like 5 times and watched this video like over 30 times): nah, I definitely need to hear this, I mean, what if somethings changed?
@MissChildie
@MissChildie 7 жыл бұрын
This was my Grandma's favourite movie, I remember watching it when I was five with her ... Thank you so much making this video, Dom. You've made my day :D
@nikkifennel
@nikkifennel 4 жыл бұрын
Did you know that, here in Spain, we call those light cardigans a "rebeca" because of this film? Greetings from Barcelona! :)
@Pomoscorzo
@Pomoscorzo 4 жыл бұрын
The main difference is that the book is a cross between a romance and a coming-of-age story, while the film is a typical thriller / murder mystery in best Hitchcock fashion. Actually I like the books' internal monologues, the descriptions of places and people, including the routine. I find it soothing, not boring. De gustibus ;-)
@shelbysmith1137
@shelbysmith1137 5 жыл бұрын
One of those reviews I can watch during exams. Something in his tone and way of speaking is calming. This review being one of my favorites. Thank you Dom. You’re reviews are always lovely.
@bdarci
@bdarci Жыл бұрын
More trivia. Mrs. Van Hopper was played by Florence Bates. It was her debut role. She previously had been one of the first women admitted to the Texas bar, in 1914.
@julierocketqueen1477
@julierocketqueen1477 7 жыл бұрын
Please please PLEEEEEASE do My Cousin Rachel!!!! I'm new to your channel but a huge Du Maurier fan and would love to hear your thoughts! :)
@mariannetaylor895
@mariannetaylor895 7 жыл бұрын
Julie RocketQueen love this idea so much make this a thing
@abee2557
@abee2557 7 жыл бұрын
Julie RocketQueen have you seen the film? 😁
@pssurvivor
@pssurvivor 7 жыл бұрын
Same!
@atheathorium
@atheathorium 7 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear his review of The Scapegoat. That's a truly wonderful book.
@jackiearnolds
@jackiearnolds 6 жыл бұрын
When you talked about Daphne du Maurier I got kind of surprised you didn't mention that this story was plagiarism. Most foreigners seem unaware of this, but du Maurier copied the Brazilian book from Brazilian author Carolina Nabuco, called "The Successor". Nabuco's story was made four years before and she translated it to English and send it to the USA to try to publish it there. She later found out, when "Rebecca" became a success, that the agent she send the book to was Ms. du Maurier agent. People that read both stories got outraged, with all right, since she copied pretty much the whole book from "The Successor". They tried to keep it quiet since it became a Hitchcock success and when the movie came to Brazil, they asked Carolina Nabuco to sign a document stating that any similarities between their stories was "mere coincidence", offering her big money to sign it, but she refused. I, as a Brazilian, take much offense on the fact people celebrate Daphne Du Maurier as a great writer and "Rebecca" as an amazing work by her when it's just a copy. Not the I blame most of them, since they just don't know and the case wasn't really brought to court, but when famous people and authors do it, I can't stand they don't research to know or just don't address the elephant in the room. Unfortunately, du Maruier's actions are just another case of disrespect towards Brazilians authors and artists. I'm not criticising the Dom, I love his videos, but it's a matter I would like to bring to light.
@anonb4632
@anonb4632 6 жыл бұрын
Jackie Arnolds Rebecca is a well written book, regardless of the plagiarism.
@multilad816
@multilad816 5 жыл бұрын
Were there differences between Rebecca and The Successor?
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint 5 жыл бұрын
That’s Interesting. Is there anny good translatinon of The Successor?
@aerieleah533
@aerieleah533 5 жыл бұрын
@akplmn thank you both for this incite. I saw this video quite a while back and recently learned that we will be covering this book in my capstone class, so if I choose to use this book for my epic paper, I am now aware of this contraversy. I probably won't, since I think I already have a concept, but I still felt like I should revisit this.
@stonersiren
@stonersiren 5 жыл бұрын
holy shit i never knew that!! that's so unfair
@sophieplace28
@sophieplace28 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing Rebecca, I've loved this novel for years and most of its adaptations from the film to the show to the musical, great video.
@rosebyanyname
@rosebyanyname 7 жыл бұрын
This episode came from my Patreon request back in the fall. Great job as always, (the) Dom!
@iang8032
@iang8032 5 жыл бұрын
Paused your video and watched the Movie via stream since I felt I'd be just wrong to spoiler myself Hitchcock. Thank you so much for explicit warning, Dom, I am really happy, I watched it before watching the Adaptation. Brought me an awesome evening with a jaring movie :)
@peggyp46
@peggyp46 3 ай бұрын
OMG!!! I loved the book and the movie equally. And you have expertly explained why! What an entertaining, but inciteful explanation into thedifferences between them, and the reasons why. I thoroughly enjoyed your take on Rebecca! Well done!!! ❤
@quaesitrix881
@quaesitrix881 4 жыл бұрын
Great video ! I hope you will do the Rebecca mini series adaptation with Jeremy Brett as Maxim ! :) And the adaptation of Three Musketeers where he played D'Artagnan... And... well, all of the others ! Somehow, almost every adaptation he had a part in turned out to be very good :D
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