REBUILDING The Cheap HYBRID Civic BATTERY PACK *And Then Unhooking It*

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WatchJRGo

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Күн бұрын

I bought Honda Civic Hybrid for $1,100 with a bad battery, and all the parts to fix it in the trunk! After using the parts in the trunk to rebuild the battery pack I found out it maybe quite a bit more broken than I thought. Without the motor commutation sensor the IMA won't run, and many other components seem to have failed in the chain. If you unhook the MCM and turn off the battery pack breaker you can make it drive like a normal car, so that's what I'm going to do for now.
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@egn83b
@egn83b 4 жыл бұрын
i fixed my accord ima it was a nightmare like this civic but i learned how. First off you got a low battery, full voltage of the pack should be at 170v not 154v my friend, your battery contactor wont pull in its in protect mode. Also you can fix a bad temp sensor with a standard resistor of a working temp sensor value in resistance in place of the broken one in a pinch. Also if you got a low stick it takes about 3 to 7 days to trickle charge a very low stick to gain capacity back but you need a 12 ohm" power resistor " in series with the battery stick and basic 12v dumb charger. Do not use a hobby charger they dont work correctly you need a dumb old style charger but you will find with old pack sticks it wont have enough capacity and throw a light, best off replacing your pack sticks with chinese nimh sticks and it will work for 1/4 of what honda charges to replace the whole pack. Also the ima system only trickle charges the small 12v so you cant run long because your draining your small battery too fast.
@ccacace1
@ccacace1 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 1st gen Prius and after much pain the only thing that made come back to life was replacing the hybrid battery. I agree with egn83b it's very hard to bring back to life those old cells sticks.
@leifhietala8074
@leifhietala8074 4 жыл бұрын
156 or so is about right for the HCH1 when fully charged.
@egn83b
@egn83b 4 жыл бұрын
@@leifhietala8074 156v is low that pack is on its way out if its resting.. my accord ima uses the same cells as the civic and voltage. Each cell at nominal resting at basically lowest depth of discharge is 1.2v which is 144v like on the sticker its misleading information. When the cell in each stick reaches 1.45 or 1.50v new they are at full capacity. But resting is normally 163v to 165v. 156v is ima light territory but software on the civic may be different then my accord but should be the same.
@jacobjche
@jacobjche 4 жыл бұрын
So....ur saying he didn't balance the batteries by not charging them all in parallel at the same time and a contactor is not closing? because it's not getting enough voltage? So the batteries are undercharged unbalanced and theres also a bad thermistor? And this is all contributing to a contactor not closing? That'd be a simple fix then no? He prolly sold the car tho..... hmmm is this guy an electrician? Could he not just use multimeter to find where the power is being cut off? Shouldn't one just check voltage to see if current is running and not ohms? If theres a circuit board with digital switches does that mean he ohmed out all the pins? But if circuit board won't allow current through if there isn't enough voltage or "balance" when there is then the circuit board is busted no? And if the thermistor is busted then that means the battery overheated so that battery is fucked. No? But since there are thermistors that should protect circuit board no? Lol
@krystaldavis6569
@krystaldavis6569 10 ай бұрын
Goodness, I purchased a new hybrid battery and module for my 2004 civic and has everything installed today. However my ima is still on with check engine and maintenance light. Any suggestions? It has power and drives good with the 12v which I had tested at the local automotive store
@bigchevs1
@bigchevs1 4 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a 2004 civic (for $1100) and had the same issues / codes. The person I bought it from popped off the led lights for the engine/ima/maint warnings, but I knew they had to be on. I rebuilt the battery, still same codes as yours. Finally bought a battery from a well-known hybrid battery company, put it in and no codes and works just like new. It cost about $1600 with a $400 core charge. The battery sticks need to be exactly the same in every regard for the car's computer to accept it. I did not realize that during the battery rebuild.
@daian7234
@daian7234 4 жыл бұрын
you need to balance the battery cell together in order to have no code. just parallel all cells together and charge so it has same voltage all across.
@jeffeastman625
@jeffeastman625 4 жыл бұрын
This comment needs more likes. Please give it a thumbs up so that JR sees it. The battery is angry that it is out of balance.
@Alex-je6od
@Alex-je6od 4 жыл бұрын
He needs a better battery balancer as well. You need to check capacity of the battery in addition to voltage. You can easily have a cell at the correct voltage which will have like 100mah of capacity. Since they are in series, they all need to be similar mah in capacity.
@parrotgenie5099
@parrotgenie5099 4 жыл бұрын
Yep you do need to balanced the new batteries. Otherwise it won’t work. Plus replace the temp sensors. Yes having a bad 12v battery will cause issues with inverter. These cars are picky when getting IMA to work. Doubt it anything major.
@rhiantaylor3446
@rhiantaylor3446 4 жыл бұрын
I would look to fix the temp sensor before spending money on parts. You have 3x sensors so just use an ohm meter and look for the odd one out. Start as close to the pack as you can then work back until one of the three measures different. I don't think the car will "use\" the battery until you fix this.
@ZeddysZ
@ZeddysZ 4 жыл бұрын
this is the same for older nicad nimh type power tools, they also have temp sensors wired
@rhiantaylor3446
@rhiantaylor3446 4 жыл бұрын
And you don't need to disassemble the battery if you can find and measure two of the sensors and get a resistor of the same value to substitute for the third, faulty one.
@_dmfd
@_dmfd 4 жыл бұрын
13:38 " Hyundais won't send a check engine light until the world is ending " 😂😂😂 I felt this in my soul
@ironpony42
@ironpony42 4 жыл бұрын
Love the fix and flips, you're saving cars, and providing cheap properly repaired vehicles to people that need them. It's fun to watch. More Opels on the channel! They're weird and cool! Find another Manta, or a Kadett!
@ltdees2362
@ltdees2362 4 жыл бұрын
I agree to your statement in theory, however these hybrids, particularly older models, are highly unreliable, or had issues to begin with. My brother in-law bought an 07 Camry hybrid supposedly rehabbed, new battery pack...the short story...had he just ran an OBD scan before purchasing, he would have discovered the entire battery and recharge electronics had been bypassed. He did take the car to a Toyota dealer and was told it was not worth repairing...more or less, he had purchased a totaled car. The Camry was hardly worth the tires it was sitting on and he wound up selling as a parts car... IMO...the claim carbon base fuels cause more environmental damage than alternative fuels, battery, solar or wind...is a double-edge sword. The manufacturing of the batteries with its by-product wast disposal, not to mention batteries winding up in landfills affords more pollution than conventional carbon fuel. However I do believe battery tech will come of age...its just here yet...my 2¢...
@leifhietala8074
@leifhietala8074 4 жыл бұрын
I had an '03 HCH, 5-spd, and it was an absolute dream on long trips. It could go 700 miles on a 13-gallon tank, just fantastic.
@robertburton8055
@robertburton8055 Жыл бұрын
Imagine… we’re only a few years from this being a common video on every single electric vehicle model over a certain number of years old
@DanMasters
@DanMasters 4 жыл бұрын
The temp issue is probably the one battery that was previously changed out that they sliced all the way through the sleeve to the metal of the battery. It might get hotter because it is directly touching metal.
@gtasandman
@gtasandman 4 жыл бұрын
I thought about it shorting on the battery itself as well.
@jeroen7699
@jeroen7699 4 жыл бұрын
That makes sense
@brettkirkpatrick464
@brettkirkpatrick464 4 жыл бұрын
You have amazing work ethic and I wish I could have thrown my two cents in much earlier as I owned one of these generation one Honda Civic Hybrids for five years and 50k miles. Ultimately after one refurbished battery and multiple trips to the dealer (where they miraculously updated the ecu software every time) we ended up junking the car. Why? The battery died....again and the alternator light was on. The car was only running on the 12 volt and would not allow the IMA to function as an alternator. I went deep into the forums, and exhausted the dealer's expertise as well as almost every Insight trick available-more is known now as you have done. I figured out that this car is a Honda science experiment that works under a very specific set of conditions. Any deviation from those conditions will set an IMA and check engine light. I got used to these friendly twinkling reminders that something was amiss in Hondaland. The Takata airbag issue was the last straw for the car. I sent it to the junk yard with a spare battery in the trunk. The good-on a new battery I got 55 mpg plus. The bad-the early ecu software was extra paranoid and cost the original owner 4 catalytic converters, and every check engine/IMA light you can imagine almost all the time (the hilarious thing was the car would freak out mid trip and slowly shut the lights off by the time I got where I was going). The third time they reprogrammed the car they finally got the CVT tune right (and according to the forums, the last reprogram removes all of the oxygen sensor codes), but the car couldn't get any more than the mid 40s mpg. My hat is off to your diligence and perseverance. Great work!
@connorcook5769
@connorcook5769 4 жыл бұрын
Josh: “Oh, I thought you meant it was a hybrid ‘cause it was cheap and broken” I’m dead 😂
@jacobyo99
@jacobyo99 4 жыл бұрын
You really amaze me with your ability to figure this out. Way beyond what most mechanics know even
@ElliottAlvis
@ElliottAlvis 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite part was the cat cameo. But you know I’m a sucker for cats 🐈
@nlemonj
@nlemonj 4 жыл бұрын
The cat was my favorite part too.
@mitchellbarnow1709
@mitchellbarnow1709 4 жыл бұрын
It is always awesome to see you JR’s, at Hooves, at the Wizards or, of course the best place to find you is at your own amazing channel!!
@12yearssober
@12yearssober 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a sucker for a nice shaved kitty myself
@jamesavery1879
@jamesavery1879 4 жыл бұрын
Yup like the Zeke cameos!
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 4 жыл бұрын
Cats are pets... Dogs are family!
@JO-ku1uc
@JO-ku1uc 4 жыл бұрын
I'm always amazed at how you jump into a new project with such gusto. I like that you choose diverse projects such as this one and I learn a lot. Keep them coming JR!!
@woozleboy
@woozleboy 4 жыл бұрын
I bet this really makes JR appreciate his Chevy Volt even more.
@natalies.8800
@natalies.8800 4 жыл бұрын
Honored to be here watching this video while it's still freshly uploaded and still steaming warm! :) Impressed even more than usual - thanks, JR. Favorite line so far: It's either badly broken or it's something really simple. Love it! :)
@wanderinggentile
@wanderinggentile 4 жыл бұрын
If the 12 volt is heating up, it could have an internal short, and it's functioning like a great big resistor. That would screw with the voltage signals everywhere and throw odd codes for good sensors.
@Harey0407
@Harey0407 4 жыл бұрын
My thought was similar that the 12v battery could be causing issues itself if its not in good shape. Ive heard of cars doing some odd ball things when the battery is in need of being replaced.
@wanderinggentile
@wanderinggentile 4 жыл бұрын
Remembering my EIR from 34 years ago, I'm thinking that sensors with an incorrect input voltage on a small set of parameters could throw a false failure code. If the sensor is only catching 11 volts coming in, and "failure" is an output of 11.4 volts coming out on a nominal 12 volt system, then it reads as bad.
@DaddytechEnt
@DaddytechEnt 4 жыл бұрын
*Now this was really interesting. it's the kind of thing you just don't see on any of the other repair or flip channels. Good Stuff* !
@avensis17
@avensis17 4 жыл бұрын
Fat cat: "Dude, no need to call me that. I'm outta here."
@isaiahsalinas6821
@isaiahsalinas6821 2 жыл бұрын
I’m having the similar issues with my 04 civic hybrid main core battery is getting drained out causing all lights to come on also power steering, gauges go out as well. I assumed it was maybe a bad alternator or “Dc-Dc converter” Did you ever get this car running right?
@geobird11
@geobird11 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Isaiah, not sure if this helps but I have a 2005 manual transmission. I've been driving it with the IMA light on and the battery not really working for the past 150k. It's at 330k now.
@krystaldavis6569
@krystaldavis6569 10 ай бұрын
@@geobird11I’m at 300k with the light on but need to get it smogged… dang it
@95617
@95617 4 жыл бұрын
I did exactly what you did and got the car running. Thanks for making these videos :)
@ajw828
@ajw828 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t win em all. Thanks for walking us all through it! On to the next one!
@bobriemersma
@bobriemersma 4 жыл бұрын
Loved my 2003 Civic Hybrid (new May 2002). Replaced the battery pack once with a rebuilt, which didn't cut it. Honda "participated" in replacing that with a new pack - about 1/2 price to me. Worked great. Ran fine until I totaled it hitting a deer in 2018. That car was like a spaceship with its 600+ mile range on one tank of fuel. Unlike a Prius the Civic has a usable "limp home" operating mode when the IMA is in disabled state. Made these cars safe for travel "off the grid."
@alcopower5710
@alcopower5710 3 жыл бұрын
How many miles did you have to replace the pack and how much was the total 💰💰?
@xxycom8963
@xxycom8963 2 жыл бұрын
@Bob Riemers: I believe Prous has “ limp home” mode, though activating it is involved procedure. And driving it in that mode is dangerous. They call it “Diagnostic” mode.
@jescocom1
@jescocom1 4 жыл бұрын
I would check/replace the temp sensors. If the system thinks the batteries are overheating, it will definitely shut down the batteries!
@jandrews377
@jandrews377 Ай бұрын
I have owned a gen 1 insight as my daily for the past 12 years. These packs can be used indefinitely and don’t need to be removed from the vehicle. Use a balance charger to fully charge, then fully discharge using a load, like a lightbulb. Repeat 3 times synchronise the discharge charactistics of all the cells. Do these once a year. The negative is it takes the car out of service for a week.
@thedextertech22
@thedextertech22 4 жыл бұрын
One thing to note, if the starter is starting the car, the IMA is not working correctly. If the IMA system is working correctly you won't hear the starter. The engine will just run with no starter as the electric assist will start the engine. Pretty cool actually.
@poiiihy
@poiiihy 4 жыл бұрын
oh really? so these things have a conventional starter motor just in case the hybrid system fails?
@lorenz777
@lorenz777 4 жыл бұрын
Really wanted to see IMA working oh well
@parrotgenie5099
@parrotgenie5099 4 жыл бұрын
It likely the temp sensors that causing issue. I had same issues with one I rebuilt and replaced all of them and IMA started working after clearing codes.
@DonovanSeiler
@DonovanSeiler 4 жыл бұрын
"as you can see, we now have a very fat cat" 10:05
@scottwaters4889
@scottwaters4889 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly the 12v battery having an internal short is causing some havoc on the electronics?
@poiiihy
@poiiihy 4 жыл бұрын
That would just drain the battery and nothing would work
@tony_25or6to4
@tony_25or6to4 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen it happen...along with a bad 12v ground.
@TofuProductionCinema
@TofuProductionCinema 4 жыл бұрын
I'm giving you props somewhat for not using the marking cardboard method when removing and reinstalling all the nuts/bolts during the disassembly/reassembly.
@jetjazz05
@jetjazz05 4 жыл бұрын
"This is my baby" *cuts to kicking it into place* LOL... flawless
@pdorrian
@pdorrian 4 жыл бұрын
When my 12v battery on my fusion energi went bad the car went bananas, literaly things would stop working and 10 mins later it would work and something else would stop, from lights to radio to power seats. Hybrids are super finicky when the 12v battery goes bad.
@maxcherwinski9991
@maxcherwinski9991 11 ай бұрын
Where is the Comm Cable A you were talking about in the end of this video as well as what does it look like. I have a 2013 Honda Civic Hybrid, thank you
@stevenpdxedu
@stevenpdxedu 4 жыл бұрын
Much respect for trying as hard as you did to fix the Hybrid. I drive (and love) a 98 Civic but would NEVER own something as complex as your project car. I'm sure I will own an electric vehicle someday but it will not be a Hybrid. Hope someone comes up with the controller you need. Thanks for the fun. Better luck next time. (I suggest something old school.)
@robj2704
@robj2704 4 жыл бұрын
I believe modern electrics trip up us oldsters where a young person would adapt readily. It's like my former father-in-law, at the age of 9, would drive around his father who was circuit rider preacher and had never learned how to drive the modern transportation called a Model T Ford.
@Kahnklingon84
@Kahnklingon84 4 жыл бұрын
The cat gets the thumbs up 😹
@Chananda
@Chananda 4 жыл бұрын
You've helped me decide that buying an old hybrid is definitely a really bad idea.
@nikolanikola8543
@nikolanikola8543 2 жыл бұрын
It isn't
@MJorgy5
@MJorgy5 2 жыл бұрын
What ever happened to this heap? Did you leave the battery pack shut off? Was it slow as sin without electric assist?
@watchjaredwork1487
@watchjaredwork1487 4 жыл бұрын
The computer is probably supposed to show “fail high” when the thermocouple/ thermistor circuit is open. That’s quite common.
@parrotgenie5099
@parrotgenie5099 4 жыл бұрын
Yep likely issue and yes contractor won’t close if detect fault in battery pack and fan will go on high. I rebuilt a couple of them. It likely bad thermistor. Easy was to verify it is test with multimeter and ohm them out and look for the one that measures way different.
@95617
@95617 4 жыл бұрын
Im having the same issue what connector did you pull to get it running right? Thank you
@gsppuffer
@gsppuffer 4 жыл бұрын
Wish I was closer I'd help.It seems like a super simple fix and you need someone that's good at troubleshooting VFD drives so if you have a friend that's a commercial hvac tech or electrician ask him to help
@Eugenes84
@Eugenes84 4 жыл бұрын
Great job rebuilding the battery. Too bad for the other issues.
@JoeManLARockinEmpire
@JoeManLARockinEmpire 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Ranger story again
@daviddavis1322
@daviddavis1322 4 жыл бұрын
Swap with known good. Also applies to entire car!
@larrybe2900
@larrybe2900 4 жыл бұрын
It is called a company profit center.
@chemxfan
@chemxfan 4 жыл бұрын
You should have more likes because you're right :)
@LemonJuiceGV
@LemonJuiceGV 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 Honda civic 2003 hybrid. Bad ima pack. I bought one reconditioned bat from a source and the other I tried reconditioning them. The working ima bat works. But the one I worked on doesn't wanna work even tho it shows the proper voltage. My guess is bad temp sensor
@phodough7201
@phodough7201 4 жыл бұрын
time to call uncle rich....lol
@WatchJRGo
@WatchJRGo 4 жыл бұрын
@RichRebuilds I’ve got this car with a 🔋 in it!
@clevelandmaker386
@clevelandmaker386 4 жыл бұрын
@@WatchJRGo and I see the next rebuild..... that old bike in that corner! dm ME...im the Car Wizard of Bikes!
@poiiihy
@poiiihy 4 жыл бұрын
rich + civic oh yes
@TheFracturedRooster
@TheFracturedRooster 4 жыл бұрын
@@clevelandmaker386 email me, I bought that bike for my girlfriend and can't figure out what it is. zbantam@yahoo.com - actual Josh from JRGo
@garykuhn1921
@garykuhn1921 4 жыл бұрын
Omg! Please do a crossover with Rich. Please.
@krystaldavis6569
@krystaldavis6569 10 ай бұрын
Goodness, I purchased a new hybrid battery and module for my 2004 civic and has everything installed today. However my ima is still on with check engine and maintenance light. Any suggestions? It has power and drives good with the 12v which I had tested at the local automotive store
@tiderfish
@tiderfish 3 жыл бұрын
So where did you end up with hybrid? I am thinking about getting one for my wife, but they all seem to have bad batteries. Ever get it working?
@WatchJRGo
@WatchJRGo 3 жыл бұрын
It needed the contactor board, hard to find and someone offered to buy the car the next day 🍻
@nestorrodriguez9367
@nestorrodriguez9367 Жыл бұрын
Did you have the check engine eliminated when disconnecting the ima braker
@forrestorlando7443
@forrestorlando7443 4 жыл бұрын
Try to fix it again pls keep the Honda alive lol
@garykuhn1921
@garykuhn1921 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. The whole process is interesting, but there is some catharsis with the completion .
@johnhoward5348
@johnhoward5348 2 жыл бұрын
What connection did u unplug to drive it manually
@geobird11
@geobird11 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to know this as well!
@thoraldshib4393
@thoraldshib4393 4 жыл бұрын
i have gotten multiple 2004-05 clusters where previous owners had pulled the needles to fully open cluster and scrapped off the warning LEDs
@djzyx
@djzyx 4 жыл бұрын
I replaced the batteries on this same model... mine just worked IMA light went away my mechanic did some kind of bypass or something cant remember. But I had the same problem as you but my mechanic figured it out...
@ivanmabini88
@ivanmabini88 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same car but the 2003 model, my ima light came on and the check engine also SRS idk what to do but it still drives and still charges.
@geobird11
@geobird11 2 жыл бұрын
How is your car now? I have a 2005 and my IMA light has been off for the last 150k. It's at 330k now.
@robertcarroll7019
@robertcarroll7019 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing the amount of work you put into this . You are a person of strong character
@thomas316
@thomas316 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy these hybrid videos, as they become more common more guys will need to learn to work on them and fault find them.
@grayfool
@grayfool 4 жыл бұрын
For sale, Honda Civic Hybrid (batteries not included).
@2006gtobob
@2006gtobob 4 жыл бұрын
Don't give up on it, find the parts necessary and make the car complete, that's the challenge left for you !
@Tratios
@Tratios 3 жыл бұрын
Had a flash back to my 2004 civic hybrid, battery went out under warranty and once out of warranty. Gave it to my mom after getting a replacement aftermarket battery. She still drives it, thru electric system requires work like every other year.
@ZachariaZuehlke
@ZachariaZuehlke 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t give up John Ross! Give me hope for fixing the ima on my civic 😂
@ils360
@ils360 4 жыл бұрын
Unplug the IMA fuse or the 12-volt battery and let it sit for 30 min then try again
@fredbobberts5753
@fredbobberts5753 4 жыл бұрын
Well done. Easier to follow. High response level. Fantastic content.
@jeroen7699
@jeroen7699 4 жыл бұрын
I had a guy fix my IMA battery, on my previous 09 civic Hybrid. He charge cycled the sticks multiple times until they would hold their load somewhat consistent. After that it worked for almost a year, then went bad again. Best fix is ordering those Chinese battery sticks. They were about €800 back then, instead of the €2800 the Honda dealer charged for a new battery pack.
@RafaelQuizonvlog
@RafaelQuizonvlog 8 күн бұрын
Hi could you teach me how to properly charge it to the Rc cars charger because I had one those for my lipos battery. Appreciate it if someone give me a tip how. Thanks in advance
@JoelAmarillasRuelas
@JoelAmarillasRuelas Жыл бұрын
hi!! i need to replace the PCV valve on my honda civic hybrid, but i can´t find the valve in de engine, can you showme where is it? thankyou
@aicsusa
@aicsusa 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Take care and God bless you all!
@M-A-C-
@M-A-C- 2 жыл бұрын
What ever came of this car? Did you end up repairing the IMA system?
@NemoBlank
@NemoBlank 4 жыл бұрын
Get a flir camera and look at it. They are great tools for finding electrical problems and you can get one that hooks to a smartphone for about $200
@juanrendon110912
@juanrendon110912 3 жыл бұрын
We you located, I need you help fir my hybrid battery
@ZeddysZ
@ZeddysZ 4 жыл бұрын
do the hybrid civic nicad batteries balance charge once in the car? What is the configuration?
@robb1165
@robb1165 4 жыл бұрын
No, they do not balance charge. The computer does monitor the balance and will cut the battery out if it does not like what it see's. It monitors balance by pairing 2 sticks. Resulting in 10 voltage readings from the 20 sticks. Each stick has 6 cells in it. So it does not see each cell individually, and charges the entire pack through one connection.
@ttinnovations3310
@ttinnovations3310 4 жыл бұрын
lol, Just install a 2nd alternator wired to the 12v OR (3) 12v battery wired in parallel and install a solar charger on the roof and trunk and battery charger.
@bradychristians748
@bradychristians748 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know a reliable seller of these battery sticks? I want to rebuild my pack with new battery "sticks" but can't seem to find the 7.2v 6500mah for Honda.
@WatchJRGo
@WatchJRGo 2 жыл бұрын
I bought basically a whole pack on eBay, my batteries were great but it ended up needing a contactor too
@AustinPerdue
@AustinPerdue 4 жыл бұрын
When I saw how you were trying to fix the IMA battery, I groaned. Even if you weren't having a temp sensor issue you'd be doomed to failure. Something to be aware of with NiMH, is that voltage is not a good indicator of SOC. You can charge the pack to full an then put it in the car, and it will still show an initial charge of around 20%. The computers need to cycle the battery a few times and measure current in and out to get an accurate model of it. That said, just swapping sticks that have higher voltage will likely still result in a failed pack in a few weeks. If you don't match their internal resistance it will rapidly get out of balance again and throw another IMA code. As someone who has rebuilt several of these, you're better off either 1) doing a full bypass and connecting the DC-DC directly to the MDM output, or sending that pack out as a core and just replacing it.
@markawesome439
@markawesome439 4 жыл бұрын
I've been doing it for years on Toyotas and I suggest just replace it
@richardjones7386
@richardjones7386 4 жыл бұрын
Can we have an update on the Rolls & R8. Would be good to see the 944’s dings and paint fixed then see how it stands up as a daily driver.
@ProlificInvention
@ProlificInvention 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@poiiihy
@poiiihy 4 жыл бұрын
Check the temp sensor!
@brianoconnell6459
@brianoconnell6459 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just me being stupid, but I noticed that the plastic at the ends of the cells have varying levels of discoloration. Could this be how they refurbish the battery packs at Honda? Think about it, it'd be far faster to check to see if a color changing plastic would indicate damage/dysfunction than it'd be to go through what, 20 cells with a charger and then a voltmeter?
@elektrokinesis4150
@elektrokinesis4150 4 жыл бұрын
did you test the main contactor to confirm functionality??
@Ryanosmitty
@Ryanosmitty 16 күн бұрын
Long shot but where is the Battery control module located in the car?
@carsarethereason7111
@carsarethereason7111 3 жыл бұрын
Do you title jump when you flip cars?
@stevevanpelt4475
@stevevanpelt4475 4 жыл бұрын
If you do have a failing module, it heats up quickly, triggering the fan. Resting state voltage readings on the modules aren't really indicative of the module health. When under load the module may drop voltage very quickly. A better test is hooking up a headlight bulb with both high and low beam hooked up for 60 seconds and recording the voltage drop. That is a proxy for the internal resistance of the battery. Ideally, you'd measure the discharge voltage curve as you discharge each module from full charge down to close to 0%, then match all modules in pack based on those curves and internal resistance.
@carlfreiermuth5424
@carlfreiermuth5424 Жыл бұрын
as an owner of Crown Victoria's, this seems like a hell of a lot of work for a car that has a 1.3 liter motor.. I have heard these cars are incredibly slow, it would be less work to just swap the motor lol.. for somebody with lots of money it might be cool to just increase the voltage and see what can be done with it before it starts to turn into a fireball 😁
@hondaservicecenter
@hondaservicecenter 4 жыл бұрын
Damn you have grown exponentially since the last time I watched one of your vids, keep it up
@jeffsanders7691
@jeffsanders7691 2 жыл бұрын
My daughter just got one of those as her first car. Ima light is on but I’m hoping to figure it all out
@solartonytony5868
@solartonytony5868 3 ай бұрын
what brand/model is the rc charger used ?
@evenveryodd
@evenveryodd 4 жыл бұрын
It's raining for him. While it's been 100+ degrees for me this whole week
@tonysu8860
@tonysu8860 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you couldn't fix despite your effort. But interesting to hear that the car is still worth owning and using since regardless whether the IMA is working or not, the venhicle was designed to be first a combustion engine car and olectrical is assist only.
@ricklingard
@ricklingard 4 жыл бұрын
Great video...very informative. Having second thoughts about buying a cheap Prius in the UK
@tctwg1
@tctwg1 4 жыл бұрын
10 year Honda Tech here. Your problem is you need to buy a Ford Raptor 👍👍👍
@13panin
@13panin 2 жыл бұрын
Where I can buy the batteries cell individual for a 2004 Honda Civic Hybrid?
@chewkeatkeang3051
@chewkeatkeang3051 2 жыл бұрын
Hi,Do they still got stock for batteries cell for a 2004 Honda Civic highbird. Tq
@pablomiret2911
@pablomiret2911 2 жыл бұрын
I want to buy this car from Japan maybe the 2006 and get the steering wheel swapped any opinions?
@DeavenLaxton
@DeavenLaxton 4 жыл бұрын
This cars pretty cool. They didnt have a civic hybrid here for the 7th gen. Only 8th gen. (In Canada. Maybe only on quebec.) But clearly they're a pain to work on
@blindsniper9794
@blindsniper9794 4 жыл бұрын
More Porsche!!!! (He shouted excitedly at the mention of it in the video)
@ProlificInvention
@ProlificInvention 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@MrTimdtoolman1
@MrTimdtoolman1 4 жыл бұрын
You are a determined man Sir.
@yamahonkawazuki
@yamahonkawazuki 4 жыл бұрын
that screw bowl magnetic base?, reason im asking is magnets and batteries dont play nice with eachother.
@pjm204
@pjm204 4 жыл бұрын
JR, what do you do with the old batteries?
@briankwolek976
@briankwolek976 4 жыл бұрын
Whatever you do, don't give up!
@gray7863
@gray7863 4 жыл бұрын
I had a couple of first gen Honda Insight's from 02 to 2014 the last one I sold when it was 8 years old and had the IMA battery pack replaced under warranty . Every caller wanted wanted to know was how old the IMA battery's were and watching this video I think about what a royal pain in the ass these older hybrids are to fix now. A lot more work just to get a few more mpg's.
@ZeddysZ
@ZeddysZ 4 жыл бұрын
The other thing is you can charge each pack of 6 cells to whatever voltage, but the individual cells might be different voltage, not sure if this is that big of a deal in nicad and chemistry will mess up in internal resistance
@brandonzamira
@brandonzamira 4 жыл бұрын
I found myself moving my head , trying to see all the details of the battery tear down. This is so alien, and interesting, to a guy that only just started liking fuel injection.
@rij1012
@rij1012 4 жыл бұрын
How do you charge the cells again ??
@Shinichi893
@Shinichi893 4 жыл бұрын
Check the check engine light if there’s a tap between the light and the cluster Usually it’s at the back of the cluster sheet...
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