Rebuilding the Tiny Velka 3 Gaming PC!

[@spidermain]

Wtf this is exactly the video I needed. I was trying to find videos of fan swap of FLEX power supply last night and I couldn't find a single good one. Thanks for the video!

[@roeland1205]

I opened KZbin today, and this was exactly what I needed too. I want this PC!

[@TechnoYacy]

Fun thing your profiles are the same color.

[@roeland1205]

@@TechnoYacy you think we should mate?

[@thatwolffe3802]

@@roeland1205 I have had ab ASRock Fatality B450 Gaming ITX Sitting on my shelf for the past 3 months, I am tempted to use it in this case now, it was originally going to go into a cheap APU HTPC build but I think my girlfriend won't mind a bit of money going missing for a discrete GPU

[@mayoeater4294]

I got the same fan he used and I’m trying to get it to mount in the same psu but the screws don’t work at all kn the fan

[@temio.463]

I literally just stayed up all night after finding your vids and wondering how to replace the fan. My heart is raging with happiness right now...

[@Oliur]

Those fans are cute af.

[@TechnoYacy]

Small bois

[@akira8817]

Kawaii

[@haininhha5638]

Exactly what i thought when i saw them

[@kfn002]

Cute as fan

[@utrippin7486]

which game is he playing in the video?

[@donaswa]

Just a heads up, the stock MGA4012YB-A15 fan inside the PSU is rated to push 18 cubic meters per hour, while Noctua 40mm fans push only 8.9 cubic meters per hour. Replacing the fan will reduce noise, but will also reduce cooling by more than 50%

[@DanielGT_93]

Measure an cut an 80x80 fan space on the case of the power supply and add an 1cm low profile fan to it.

[@uss_liberty_incident]

Thanks for continuing to make videos with a clean production style, while ensuring that most viewers even slightly familiar with PC hardware can understand your content. That and you come up with some creative solutions to managing thermals in SFFPCs. I managed to shave off 3C from my 2080ti by switching it from stock to 2010Mhz@ 917mV.

[@drkastenbrot]

tape the gaps the 10mm fan left to improve airflow through the power supply

[@sleepovr]

banana for scale

[@techcheap2340]

Thank you Optimum ive been waiting for this

[@FasuloA]

Dude, thanks for reading the comments in the last video and accommodating your fans. Very nice!

[@chaz8177]

I genuinely love this builds clean aesthetic

[@CharlieboyK]

That thing is smaller than my power supply, its cool AF

[@TheEchelon]

You've got a big powersupply then...

[@appleoptimizer9822]

Got that case too.

[@bamsuth9650]

@@TheEchelon standard atx

[@joe_ferreira]

Ax1200

[@antran4812]

Honestly Ali, thanks for making the most high quality itx videos on the world wide webs

[@TheK1KoS]

thank you so much for revisiting velka 3 case

[@MrDbrennen]

Thanks for the confirmation, this is a game changer.

[@SirSethery]

If you want to connect it to the PSU itself, you'll need the FLX version of the Noctua fan. Also, for anyone using the 10mm thick fan, I would probably recommend putting some electrical tape or something over that little gap between the fan and the PSU chassis so that air doesn't leak in.

[@pierregrobbelaar9116]

What i like about your channel is that you do small form factors.I don't have the guts to attempt a build like this(i has big hands).We get a lot of tech youtubers but this one is great cause of the content of the videos.That and you got a relaxing voice :D

[@blueeyednick]

THANK YOU SO MUCH! WHAT A WAY TO END THE DECADE!!!

[@bananya6020]

you must regret saying that now lol

[@BeefiusGravius]

I dont know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but Earlier revisions of the Velka 3 do indeed fit an HDPlex Unit but cannot be screwed in forcing you to do what he did in this video if you wanted to put one in your system. As of the latest Revision, you can now do it with lil hassle and without the thermal tape, although some people still recommend it just to help unload some heat.

[@TeddyBasherz]

remove gpu shroud and install noctua fans on gpu for essentially inaudable system?

[@f13dfx]

Hi Nick, this is exactly my thought! Which Noctua fan did you have in mind?

[@adityaaurora9869]

@@f13dfx from what I see you should be able to screw a noctua 120mm into the mesh on the side or just zip tie it to the gpu heatsink

[@d-o-n-u-t]

Aditya Aurora zip-tying it is probably a bad idea. You NEED a secure fit, as GPUs do NOT thermal-throttle and overheating will lead to critical failure and your card would 200% die.

[@lordhighbinary2006]

@@d-o-n-u-t I've seen many zip tied fans on GPU, and from personal exp, it doesn't matter how you mount your fan. It matter more on how much airflow the fan you are using is able to generate. Basically you want a fan that designed more for pushing air through radiators not for case airflow (there are always exceptions, but that's the general rule). Ive seen cases where ziptied fans do BETTER then the stock fan. Where the problem comes in is making sure the aftermarket fans are not running too slow (or can self adjust) based on gpu temps. But that's my 2c, do with it as you see fit.

[@Leonsimages]

@@lordhighbinary2006 actually there have been a lot of ppl in r/sffpc doing the noctua fan swap on the MSI or Gigabyte Mini cards. The NF-A9x14 (which does have quite good static pressure for a 92mm fan) fits into the stock shroud and you can use a 4-pin to VGA adapter to connect it to the fan header on the GPU. Thermals are supposedly about the same while it is way quieter.

[@olamajosta3621]

Are we not going to mention how my boi optimum is a god at apex legends?

[@joostwagelaar8837]

Olamajosta what did you think when you made your profile photo😂?

[@castcrus]

tried to add him on origin, but no reply, lol

[@joostwagelaar8837]

Cactus Crus how is he named on origin?

[@castcrus]

@@joostwagelaar8837 hmmmm, look carefully into his ID in the video, you'll see. XD

[@joostwagelaar8837]

😂

[@catawalks]

External power bricks are the devil. War must be waged against this evil! Fully self contained or bust!

[@Outland9000]

Yuss!

[@TheGameBench]

Had a similar issue with an external optical drive bay. Replaced the internal fan with the Noctua 40mm and it's so much quieter. I was looking at this exact FSP unit for a project. Now I know to replace the fan off the bat.

[@Pangkatt]

Premium quality video material right here. Excellent build / upgrade

[@suhailkhaan]

I prefer the noctua fan swap coz I hate an external power brick. My most favorite pc build of all times. Thanks for creating such amazing content.

[@mrinalkd]

I just love this case !!! I would really love to build this kind of form factor PCs !!!

[@Daanoto]

Heyy, I just wanted to point out that Velka now sells their own PSU's together with the V2.0 of the Velka 3, 5 and 7 cases. I would LOVE to see you make a vid about the revised versions and see if the PSU from Velka has the same noise issues. Btw, I adore your channel. Keep up the good work!

[@sandinodelavega9042]

The one psu included in velka 3 package is much more noisier than fsp. Better be buying noctua fan as well.

[@leospaceman2976]

@@sandinodelavega9042i wonder why they ditched support for the hdplex in the velka 3 3.0

[@LastSecBloomer]

While Noctua is silent, it doesn't move nearly as much air as fans those noisy fans that usually go into FLEX power supplies. There are few industrial fans made by Delta and Sunon which are much quieter than stock fans, while moving more air than Noctua. A best of both, in a way... Probably the best PSU you can use in a case like this is Enhance ENP-7660B, a 600W Platinum rated PSU (so, beastly for that size), which is pretty quiet too (for a FLEX PSU). The best alternative if your components are not powerhungry is the HD PLEX mentioned in the video...

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

For sure, I have the Enhance 7660b in my 4L case powering a Ryzen 7700 + RTX 4060 LP and its fan is completely inaudible even under full load

[@KrisYadao]

I was able to get the 20mm noctua to work with the flex ATX. I bent the fan cage on the case inward and mounted the fan flush on the exterior. I then closed the gaps left where the old fan would have been with some kapton tape. There was barely enough clearance in front of the power button after I rerouted the cables, but it spins without interference. I also ran a temperature sensor from the motherboard header into the PSU and hooked the noctua to a mobo header. This way I can control the PSU fan based on the internal temp of the PSU itself. It idles at 35c and peaks at 50c under load.

[@TolgaOzisik]

Great video with tiny fans and almost no production cost. Clever!

[@EmilsAdventure]

I'll say it again. You are really missing out by not just getting ENP-7660b. It's the only psu that should be used in this case. It's proper silent and 600w.

[@vianniello93]

Emil Bøilerehauge why do you need 200 more watts though? The ENP is $65 more than the FSP 400w and $35 more than the FSP 500w so it just seems like a lot to pay for watts you don’t need and a quieter fan.

[@EmilsAdventure]

@@vianniello93 its just for the quieter fand and fan settings. Its basicly silent were as other flex atx psus sound like tiny jet engines. Just for that reason its worth it.

[@gulielmi2002]

Did a little research on this company. Apparently this company is based in Houston, TX. Pretty cool to have this in my home town!

[@namyun2743]

Another thing that can be done is choosing a different PSU. I'm currently testing the Seasonic SSP-300SUG 300W Gold-rated PSU for "lower power" APU and PCIe-only powered discreet GPUs and this thing is pretty quiet at under 100W load. My next test will be to move up to a 1050ti and finally a 1650 Super. Those FSP flex-ATX PSUs have annoying acoustics because of their specific ball-bearing fans. To note, the Seasonic PSU has a single 12V rail rated at 25A (But has no 6 or 8-pin PCIe power). The topology is different from the FSP models with dual 12V rails. Another thing to consider is the total power consumption of the system. Trying to eke out 200W+ peak power consumption from a flex-ATX PSU without dramatically increased acoustics may be asking too much from it, no matter what the PSU is rated for. Yes, I plan on ultimately building out on a Velka 3 or a Geeek A30. I just missed the last shipment of Velka 3 by literally an hour (Jan 6). They don't get a lot of them and they sell out literally in the first hour of it hitting their web store.

[@DaneMurdock]

Thanks for revisiting this case. I kind of want to make this case my next build. I dream of not needing to waste space on a power supply, and SATA storage drives. This little thing with some M.2 drives sounds fantastic to me.

[@QuantumBraced]

I've been waiting for this video, thank you so much!

[@peterarnepaglinawan1075]

Thanks to this video i was confident enough to do this mod on my own. I made sure i placed it in the correct orientation by looking at 6:07!

[@gavlatennis2824]

Great video! Love innovative stuff like this about the PSU options.

[@johntsioumpris858]

I am pretty impressed of how much you have crammed inside such a small case... it would be really interesting to see if you could produce a variant of your case that could host 2x3.5 HDDs probably in the expense of the VGA..this would be the absolute killer of all 2bay NAS as you could buy ITX Mbs and have extremely fast NAS (or even ESXI hosts) for the same money...

[@CRF250R1521]

You're good at Apex bro!

[@TheTechnoEcho]

don't forget that HDplex also makes their own power brick, that is much smaller than the Dell brick, and also it provides more power.

[@dayanrodriguez1392]

Man, the quality of your videos! All of them. You deserve more subs.

[@seesharpist]

I put two of these into my HP switch and the difference is pretty crazy. Silent server closet is great!

[@neoqueto]

You have to make an UDOO BOLT V8 build! Smallest board EVER

[@eathenedwardemon1989]

I was eagerly waiting for another velka video 😍😍😍

[@brandishwar]

SeaSonic makes quiet FlexATX power supplies. They're a little more expensive than the competition, but well worth it for SFF builds that require them.

[@TonyNguyenFR]

Important thing to note. The fan swap is much cheaper than the hd plex + ACDC adapter option.

[@screes620]

If your OK with a 330w psu brick, how about the meanwell RPS-500-12-c. It's a 12v PSU that you'd use with a pico style psu for the motherboard, and will do 310w passively cooled (500w with a fan pointed at it). It should fit in that space, be silent, and give about the same amount of power as your external brick without needing an external brick.

[@khachungle5508]

nice new itx build

[@blackmennewstyle]

The noise difference between stock fan and noctua fan is absolutely night and day

[@NERO-ez1mn]

this is what i like in this channel. not scared in ripping PSU :-DDDD imagine a pc component inside a PS4 :-DDDD

[@stephanweinberger]

You should make sure that the thinner fan still draws all the air through the PSU: cover the gaps with some tape.

[@boogahead]

Been waiting for this! Great video!

[@toofhuny8898]

This SFF build is just awesome in either format - the Noctua 40mmx10mm fan the Flex PSU appears an absolute must especially when using what is the currently the highest powered GPU available in ITX form. The i5-8400 seems a sensible partner CPU selection . Biggest problem - this incredible SFF cases are extremely hard to obtain. Great channel Ali - love it - the video quality is excellent and your chilled manner is informative and welcoming. I do hope you'll attempt a high spec air-cooled build in the Fractal Design Core 500 - perhaps when the next gen of 3080ti or whatever GPU's emerge. For an ITX sized case it really is a boon for ATX kit and masses of it.

[@Anxiou5Panda]

Man, I really love how you edit, it's very informational. That power supply is nice and all, my only nitpick is that spaghetti cable hehe. Happy New Year man. I wish you good health, safety, and more success.

[@JogieGlenMait16]

That savage gameplay though.

[@mDayShamangahabash]

I love cheemsburgers, and PCs of this size

[@nivenisrael1565]

Speemch impedmemt

[@ryux676]

beesechurgers

[@nonrumor]

Speemch

[@paisenpaisen]

cheems

[@tanbirsohail]

Custom low profile psu cables cut to precise length will help a lot and leve out some room in the case.

[@almansour_82]

You are simply the small form factor KING!

[@OverdriveTech]

Sick build! Now I want to build an ITX system even more.

[@Godalor]

As I had already mentioned in several posts on smallformfactor.net, I believe using the PSU fan as an exhaust is not the best way to handle cooling it. Most Flex ATX PSUs have their only other openings to the top of their casings, which means that the negative air pressure from the fan being exhaust will pull hot air from the system into the PSU in an attempt to cool it down. If you really want to cool down the PSU turn that fan around and compensate for the hotter air in the system by pulling the CPU fancurve up a bit. Ideally, the positive air pressure from both the CPU Cooler and the PSU cooler will just push the air out on the bottom half of the side and back of the case.

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

If you’re looking for a silent FlexATX PSU, get the Enhance 7660b 600W model. It’s completely silent in my 4L SGPC K39v3 case powering a Ryzen 7700 + RTX 4060LP

[@NathanielOfLight]

It's probably worth using something to seal the fan against the PSU so that all of the air flows through the PSU, and the replacement fan doesn't fit flush. Electrical tape would be a good option.

[@fourtwo42kochiro]

what a dream mini system!💯💯💯

[@fastxsam]

The power supply costs more than the case? And you should add a better fan? Nice small footprint but too much of a compromise.

[@zzly9338]

You should put some tape to cover up the holes that the fan doesn't fill (since it's smaller) so it doesn't spill air

[@BlueBird-wb6kb]

Gonna wait for the RTX 21 series to see how small the GPU's will be and performance gains

[@lord5619]

I see Hemlock, i press like. Awesome case and cable management anyway.

[@kevinl4837]

There is also the GEEEK A30 that is very similar, but acrylic and cheaper. They also sell a custom flex atx psu (fan swap and modular).

[@user-vc7ep7xj7s]

And what is the weight of the build? It is important to know since many will bring this as carry on when flying

[@masszero3521]

Ohhh! yeah! This is what many people are into right now! Its so in demand... cant even get a Velka case its out of stock!

[@ww-hi9mq]

for the one want to use hdplex 400w mini board hdplex actually have a 400w power adapter for the 400w ac-dc board its much smaller then the dell brick, go check it out

[@the360gaming5]

Cool video men

[@MuZeSiCk77]

yeah, been to the site. All is out of stock except the cooling-fan. nice site mate. thnx

[@dentjoener]

A straight 12v supply would be a lot better. Get a 300w 12v power brick, and then you only need breakout cables for cpu/gpu power and a tiny pico psu to make the motherboard happy. Instead of going from mains->19->12, 3.3, 5 etc, just go from mains to 12 (like actual modern psus do) and from 12 to the others with a pico psu

[@LiquidTurbo]

Amazing quality videos! Keep it up!

[@FTKSoky]

If I’m looking to build/buy a gaming pc.. what’s the difference on having one this small as opposed to a big one.. I like the idea of having a small computer.. or is it more just for portability..

[@globalist1990]

Why aren’t there cheap cases everywhere with this size/configuration? Like, just basic grey steel, no rgb, glass crap.

[@mizznfizz1]

I think that on the Velkcase website they state that the latest revision of the case will include updated mounts for the HDPlex and other types of pico-psu's.

[@optimumtech]

That's the model I have

[@littleb9298]

If you can 3d print a 1.5 cm bracket for the 1cm noctua fan, (or just cover the holes around it 3:58) such that it sucks air better and gets a little quicker, I actually prefer the psu fan mod solution. It is just neater.

[@etiennelebuis7668]

Thanks for the video, i wish you would do a bank for the buck build with the same case with something like a 9100f a gtx 1650 a cheap 300w 25$ dc to dc power supply with like a dell da-2. Would be interesting to see a minimal build for a minimalistic case.

[@rizqihiktakaewi9206]

Pico PSU and 300W 12V LED PSU would work better, no need to external brick, which made Velka 3 moot.

[@IAmSwatchingYou]

Thanks for uploading this, you were a huge help

[@JohnBest]

There's something very pleasant about that hdplex psu. I'd feel good about using an external brick if I knew that thing was in my pc.

[@jeremiahthompson7626]

Thanks for this vid bro...really enjoyed watching this👍👍

[@lucsalander]

Superb video. Did you plug the noctua fan on the motherboard? I didn't quite get that. In the last video someone suggested using the 600W Enhance Flex which has a better build quality, did anyone try that?

[@randeegunthunter1062]

Ali rockin the Tommy T, need to drop a like

[@masonhales]

Mate close the gap on the psu fan, old fan didn't have that gap. Just put two pieces of tape there.

[@drunkwaffle6410]

First love this case. Also the Enhance 7660b is the only flex psu to buy for the case if you have the time/patience. The hdplex combo is great if you want a silent build. But it's the most expensive option. Did optimum get the newer version of this case? I have the 1.1 and it doesn't have the mounting holes or back plate for the hdplex. I build mine using the hdplex 400w, it's what I had, and I just have the jack wire hanging out in back. Didn't use any velcro/foam, though the cables and everything else keeps it stable. But it sits on my desk at work though.

[@loudiddly]

The one flex atx psu I always hear about when low-noise is thrown around is the Enhance 7660b. Anyone have experience with this compared to a fan-modded alternative?

[@mumind2726]

From what I've Heard 600w version of this psu works passivley up to 300w power consumption, so no noise when gaming on setup like this

[@optimumtech]

Would also love to know!

[@LastSecBloomer]

Everyone who got one are very happy with it, pretty quiet and lot of juice. If you can get a modded one (with modular cables) from China, it's even better.

[@alyxburke]

@@LastSecBloomer this case doesn't fit a lot of those custom power supplies

[@LastSecBloomer]

@@alyxburke True...Velka 3 is quite tight with clearances, unlike chinese cases of this type. Stock 7660B should fit, though...

[@kakakarim]

Rebuild with new Velka 3 case and 3060 ITX aero

[@Scout339th]

Big fan of all your videos and I'm sorry that this isn't related to the Velka 3, but are you planning to switch to an 18:9 aspect ratio soon? Your vids are amazing and I would love to see more of my screen filled up with my 18:9 phone and 21:9 monitor.

[@KrispysRC]

While I enjoyed the Velkas size I felt it lacked in built quality. The limited mini GPU market makes it harder to recommend this case as well. It took me months to track down a mini 2070. Also had thermal protection on my PSU after replacing my fan.

[@wangchong94]

top quality vid as always mate!

[@Mad5cout]

Kind of unbelievable that after all this you didn't give us a sound test with the PSU back in the case while gaming.

[@ItsZim0]

This video is hella...fine

[@WM22]

Now I would get that case with two extra thin noctua fans at the top and change the power supply fan and spray paint the psu black

[@renedokbua8883]

Cool video. Where did you get the tiny heat gun you used to crimp the cables at 4:45? All i find are big industrial heat guns.

[@johnhorton3727]

MSI says the 2070 mini needs a 550 W power supply.. I'm using the HWPlex and the Dell 330w like you. Definitely no long term issues?

[@TomatePasFraiche]

Look at those little blades, they are so cute °w°

[@youmad4735]

I guess my only question for this build is; is the 400W Power Supply efficient enough to power a 2070 RTX ? (like safely?) *OH WAIT, you undervolted your GPU* was it loud because of a low PSU paired with a 2070?

[@JanisVeide]

Awesome! I wonder if its possible to mod a Noctua fan to that GPU, both for thermals and sound. Are the 2070 and 2060 Super the highest tier gpus you can fit in this case? And what could be top Ryzen cpu here - 3600X, 3700X?