My Insane $3K Velka 3 Build

[@mrsparkyjr]

I like this video format a lot. Very informative and interesting. Love the way you explain every choice and how it was catered to your specific situation.

[@ppulf968]

well amd has the asrock 6600xt ITX.. love when techtubers cant even google...

[@RafitoOoO]

This PC is badass. It's also amazing how well a Ryzen 9 can run with such limited cooling.

[@emilyshabang]

AMD's last two generations have been very impressive for sure....esp their x3d development. I was very surprised that the 5800x3d was essentially a seamless entry into last gen. Typically anytime you introduce something that innovative which in it's first gen there will be a lot of issues...but AMD knocked it out of the park. The 7800x3d is even better and I wasn't sure that the jump in performance over the 5800x3d could be that big. Unfortunately, the larger core count variants of x3d don't perform as well, at least in gaming. However, as you pointed out the 7000 series x3d CPUs are insanely efficient when undervolting.

[@MarkoMood]

Of course, most of the upper end of the power consumption is really inefficient for pretty much all components. Cooling is overrated when you actually optimize your copmonents.

[@p.d.k.]

I've been using the Velka 3 with their Enhance PSU for the past couple of years, going back and forth from the metro NY area to PAX West, PAX East, and PAX Australia. For PAX East, it sits in a LTT backpack along with all its accessories. When traveling to PAX West and PAX Australia, the system sits in a SKB 2011-7 ATA travel case, along with an Asus XG17, Drop Alt keyboard, Glorious mouse, DualShock 4 controller, and USB hub. I've checked the SKB case with no issues (other than TSA forgetting to reattach my TSA locks more often than not). I've gone from a 5600/PNY 3060 to a 5700X3D/MSI 3060 Ti Aero. The one downside is that the motherboard I/O area can get pretty toasty. I bring a small USB-powered fan and point it at the back of the case to keep things cooler, along with using a USB hub to move anything on a dongle away from the excessive heat. I'm using Louqe's Cobalt PCIe 4.0 riser cable. The dark blue is barely visible from outside the case. The light grey cable is more noticeable than the blue.

[@JohnWindberg]

no place for a case fan in the velka 3

[@itiswhatitis-yes]

I would love to see many videos like this! Packing high performance components in such a small case! Great to see such a small case packing this much performance.

[@MrAgentTweak]

Dude glad you are posting more frequently man ...

[@diyathkumara2443]

They have 8TB nvme drives???!!

[@nanoflower1]

They have 24TB NVME drives. Expensive as can be, large and they run hot, but the drives do exist.

[@Dragon151415]

Sabrent has had them out for several months,hella expensive but pretty damn good

[@ventilate4267]

​@@Dragon151415 years, I believe 😂

[@mattboyer774]

What did that cost?!

[@Nib_Nob-t7x]

Yeah for years at this point.

[@eagleman983]

I just ordered a velka 3 last week, I'm even more excited now

[@JohnWindberg]

no place for a case fan in the velka 3

[@Krunkle78]

yay Glad to see ya!! Miss ya!

[@hessejon]

so frickin nice seeing you again you will always be my favorite techtuber

[@Razear]

"...but in this case, it's the hero I need." Nice double entendre.

[@abdellah585]

Great build gotta love the velka case

[@greenprotag]

Dear PNY, sponsor this man for an ADA A4000 "SFF/LP" with 20GB of Vram I wonder how it would stack up against the 4060 ti.

[@JBrinx18]

Pretty sure it's worse... Craft Computing showed it was on par with a 4060 even with the 8 GB

[@usr01]

You can mod it with a 6pin plug and it actually does pull more than 75w if you do that. I’ve been looking into one for my home lab.

[@greenprotag]

@@usr01 idk if I would shunt an A4000 LP... Maybe a second hand A2000...

[@emilypeters8888]

It has been tested it hits about 4070 levels, with a shunt mod and a soldered on 6 pin power port

[@greenprotag]

@@emilypeters8888 Someone has been watching NFC

[@TwistedGlasses]

As always another great video, helpful as always!

[@dividion8102]

Great SFF build. And I love the Asmongold and Star Wars (ep 4) inserts at 9:53. LOL

[@ronanvelarde8072]

Damn that's some fast tiny workstation, i hope it won't caught fire

[@RacingPotato12]

Why would it catch fire?

[@ronanvelarde8072]

@@RacingPotato12 form factor? But i watched the whole video so my comment doesn't makes sense

[@AllomanticSquash]

Great stuff Kyle!

[@videosuu300]

I made a similar build a couple of years ago, when gpu prices skyrocketed and itx form factor was expensive, paid 950 USD for a 3060. Some of the issues I founds were: -It was super heavy, even it was small -Was hot to the touch while gaming -Fan was super loud, even more than a gaming laptop -Expensive Pros: - it looked so cool in desktop, was easy to setup on a tv or anywhere -Performance was great what I would do different: -If it just for gaming I would stick to a ryzen 5 non X, to keep power consumption down and temps. -Get a 250w or 300w PSU and replace the fan

[@ARCHONFella]

how heavy?

[@gemstone7818]

btw there is a new two slot 4070 from zephyr, people have reported issues from capacitors being too close to the screws and causing interference but that is a simple fix

[@LUKEHANZY]

"But the fact that it can game this well, gets me kinda bricked up" hahahaha

[@FangerZero]

I just appreciate you showing me how to properly undervolt in the new ASUS software. I know how to do it in my old 2011 Gigabyte motherboard.

[@cakeisalie]

1:40 what backpack is that Kyle? looks rugged/awesome, would love to buy the exact model

[@kinoryu9512]

Looks like a Sewell MOS pack V4

[@MindstabThrull]

A few years ago one of my now-roommates was interested in a portable PC for VR. An appropriate external battery setup (Jackery et al) could make this a major beast for actual VR gaming!

[@raulhidalgo6817]

I was looking at review videos on a mini pc that I am considering buying and then this video pops up and now I'm stuck, thanks Kyle

[@arminm.9373]

u got me bricked up here

[@DaFirstMelon]

Yo 💀

[@ruskibruski]

@@DaFirstMelon10:42

[@RyanFennec]

💯

[@Pbenter]

@@ruskibruski brick brothers

[@bryonherbert6745]

That CPU cooler is inadequate for a 7800x3d... Would have been better off with a better option

[@SleepyCameras]

Well thank god then he didn’t go for the 7800x3D then… FYI he went for 9 7950x3D TDP 175 compared the smaller thermal package of the 7800x3D of 120TDP Secondly “would have been better off with a better option” well.. yeah duh. But care to specify Finally, I’m rocking a 7800x3D in the Velka 3 and with a little underclocking it runs perfectly fine in the 70c’s at load. Yes… with the same NH-L9a cooler. Spoiler every amd chip out of the box is overclocked. Manually under clocking the chip had me see a rise in performance and fps

[@smallrtech]

If you want to do this build: - Ryzen 7900 (non X) is a better choice for that cooler - RTX A4000 with the SFF cooler (3060 cooler mod) works incredibly well and better than a 4060ti. _ if you have the money go for the RTX A4000 ada SFF. I'm saying that because I did multiple builds using this case, severe underclocking, I did also cut the side panel to accomodate larger cooling solutions, and the most efficient and best option is definetely the 7900, the 5950X was running slower with the forced undervolt and the 7950X is really not a good fit neither. cheers.

[@rafgarciaa]

Is there a video on the white pc build you have at 0:40 on the background?? I want to build something similar

[@riou_gg]

excited for your computex coverage!

[@GhostReaper2043]

hopefuly its better than his ces coverage

[@Steve.._.]

​@@GhostReaper2043did you cover anything at ces or you just a whiner

[@nileshbanerjee5291]

Him: "let me pull out my gaming desktop real quick" Someone else: "You mean your laptop right?" Him *smiles* Someone else: "Your Laptop, right?"

[@Gavrev]

That's a cute little bit of kit there! Never underestimate the value of an underclock. I've been happily running my 5700x all core 3.7Ghz @ 0.950v.. I find it remarkable that it typically seems to sip around 35-38W!

[@Zeinzu2]

I love small form factor. I built one of these back back...............back in the day that was also a fanless design. Highly recommend!!!

[@p_sn00ter]

Why under volt versus just stepping down in CPU model? Seems like people choose under volting so that they can say "Here i got an R9 or I9 in this little box even though the undervolt make the CPU perform closer to the 7 or 5 models of these CPU's. At any rate, for what you wanted to do, a 13600K with an A380 would have been primo for your encoding needs. Especially the use of QuickSync and DeepLink technologies. Not to mention very good power consumption and low heat heat WITHOUT undervolting while performing pretty close to what you actually got now.

[@BroiledSourGrapes]

A proper under-volt hardly affects CPU performance. Not enough to be noticeable outside of benchmarking anyways. Keeping temps lower could even “increase” performance over the long term by avoiding thermal throttling.

[@edwindungdung1998]

This couldn’t have come at a a better time. I was looking into building a new pc hopefully really small as I’m preparing to leave for school. Hopefully this will be the inspiration I need even if my wallet shivers in fear.

[@apollo9779]

Built it this case a couple months ago and it was super fun to plan and build. Would most definitely do it again.

[@veliki_sef.9034]

I don't really understand the CPU choice, wouldn't the normal 7950X be better, especially for productivity? I can even imagine the 7900 (non-X) being good enough while not needing a ppt adjustment.

[@ivangerginov5648]

It would be about the same. Might as well get the X3D for gaming on the side

[@CrashJay]

Looks like a super solid workhorse! Hopefully the stuff you get to cover at computech will make this thing worthwhile!

[@hardlyworgen71]

"Workhorse". Nice one.

[@Moats_Life]

I often wonder why the 14700 and 14900 processors are not used in builds like this? Both have the same integrated graphics as the K series processors, but with only a 65w tdp. Both can easily be cooled with the same Noctua cooler you used in your build. They can't be overclocked, but with the same integrated graphics, they provide outstanding h.264 editing performance.

[@dakotarogers2301]

Just a heads up, i have traveled a lot, and if they ever try to make me check a bag, i just say it has my work laptop, battery packs and powertool batteries. They have never given me an issue after that. Granted, i do have said item in the bag.

[@RegBeta]

Nice to see an KZbin PC influencer who builds a PC with more than just a 1TB SSD, plus it's a small form factor one.

[@sk8t0l1v3]

The velka series of cases are great. I have a velka 7 and I love that case.

[@RyoshiLastName]

For small games and emulators, this looks like a solid build

[@bb2ridder757]

I bought the other small form factor case from a couple of videos ago and that one has been working out really well for me

[@Justanotherbeautifulday]

You are awesome Bit thank you for all the knowledge brother.

[@caffeinesippingman]

@Bitwit I love it when you make PC's for people, I am sure Kyle will love his new PC.

[@anonEEmousPH]

Hi. Can you drop the link for the riser cable? Thank you.

[@thepan]

But have you tried the non-K Intel i9/i7 variants (non-F variants, with an iGPU for QuickSync) with a base TDP of 65W? I'm curious in how it performs in a case like this, and if the max 37mm cooler is capable enough of cooling it without overclocking.

[@chrisbullock6477]

That 96 gigs really helped carry the system despite lower clock speeds and undervolting.

[@emilypeters8888]

Have you considered getting a mini water jet or laser cutter to make custom parts for things like the Velka 3 or even full custom cases for odd mobo size like deep itx etc…

[@Custom_PC_Keebs]

SFF is going crazy 😮 and I like it.

[@EmilsonLacht]

I've been looking into SFF PCs lately and had also noticed the Velka series. I really liked the 3s size but was very worried it wouldn't be able to support high end CPUs because of cooling limitations. Well, apparently you can indeed run a 7950x in this case but the question that remains is whether i can buy a less powerful CPU, not undervolt it and reach similar performance and similar temps as the undervolted 7950. Maybe someone who's deeper into the entire topic can enlighten me!

[@ArutoEgo]

can give me link on what riser you use?

[@AxleLotl]

Dude, this is almost my exact setup! I dont have ram, storage or the CPU yet. But the 4060ti palit from techinn was too good to pass up as an ITX sized GPU 👌🏼👌🏼

[@dark_landro]

Does the Velka 3 come with a power supply?

[@usr01]

It has to option to be ordered with one. Best one you get too. Enhance 7660b.

[@tarfeef_4268]

If quicksync is way faster could've just used a 14700T or similar cpu from Intel that is meant for lower power envelopes

[@Arandolor]

03:45 After many years of AMD being the "chips that run super hot" it's nice to see them take a bit of a win on this one, not gonna lie.

[@RobloxianX]

Velka 3 builds are going to get more epic with 50 series!

[@Ober1kenobi]

The X3D part seems to make NO SENSE here. I mean sure itll do it, but 7900x not a better option ? Okay

[@azamat19]

absolutly.

[@heirtothethrone000]

May because the X3D is a 120w and the 7900x is 170w

[@Russiangamerpro2021]

They are selling the typographic card on Amazon. It sucks his video didn’t show us which graphic car we can get.

[@SamarghyaMandal-mz4be]

As a laptop gamer, I can confirm you 89 C is very chill

[@richardsalazar4817]

You could always throttle back the frequency of the 14900 to keep it cooler, but, then is it really gonna be faster then the ryzen9?

[@Krab50132]

Can you bring this as cabin luggage with that power brick? Isn’t 90w the limit?

[@Kahlimer0]

Totally unnecessary to have a build this small, and yet it's so cute that it's absolutely indispensable.

[@Sup_D]

Wonder if it would fail at the critical moment like Paul's 7970X CES 2024 $10k System?

[@TheLuckySasha]

Fantastic video thanks! As someone with minimal knowledge, is it easy to build on its own once I get all parts?

[@icey5474]

Genuine question; why don't you use something like a Mac studio? Is it the apple ecosystem and lack of being able to customize it or mainly just preference?

[@RobTalksBeer]

I want to build this exact PC, can you linkto to all the components you used?

[@matik4605]

How were you able to get the temps so low? I just built a similar system (same except for ram, storage, and gpu) and applied the same bios tweaks and my temps are significantly higher. Additionly my multicore cinebench score was 1510 from thermal throttling... I'm possibly thinking I didn't mount cpu cooler tight enough? Any help would be appreciated.

[@crandy1124]

I am selling my old r5 3600 pc and want to upgrade my other 5600x pc to a 7600 by selling the cpu ram and mobo. Is it worth the hassle with buying new parts and selling old or should I stay on the am4 platform. Also should I sell my 3060ti or keep it for the new build? OR Should I just sell both pc and completely upgrade?

[@frankgyeabour359]

YOURE DOING WHAT TO A DEAD HORSE?????

[@ARCHONFella]

is this really limited to 150mm flex PSU? or can a 170mm fit?

[@Achilles_11_]

I wonder how a desktop replacement laptop compares

[@sc9433]

wrong choice for mini itx. Power draws too high and runs too hot. Should've went with minisforum bd790i, you get more power and performanced compared to the undervolted 7950x with non of the drawbacks and no need for undervolts. And MUCH cheaper.

[@heirtothethrone000]

The bios in those things are trash and no upgrade path

[@sc9433]

@heirtothethrone000 u dont need an upgrade path when the board together cpu is so much cheaper. It offsets the potential savings on future "upgrades".

[@tarfeef_4268]

I have a similar build in the K39 (AliExpress case that's quite similar). Cooler is the IS-47K, GPU is older so 2070 itx from gigabyte (well used to be that, I sold that and put a 1050ti in for a while, then my cousin stole that so it's actually got an empty GPU chamber rn), and it's got an old mobo+cpu, a 7700k with an undervolt. Works great as an htpc, tho I still want an arc a310 if they're ever actually well priced for HDMI 2.1 and av1 decode PSU I got an FSP flexguru 500w unit and rewired it with a noctua fan, and have had excellent results, never audible above other components

[@kiseki69]

Hey there, how long is your riser cable and what brand are you using?

[@heirtothethrone000]

I was gonna do a build like this with a 12 core CPU and the Velka 3 will be perfect

[@holicool]

What about the noise level, please? You got me curious:)

[@ARCHONFella]

what was the length of the riser cable you used?

[@TVCeker]

I know this is cheaper and more upgradeable (and more fun), but at this little volume and cooling capacity, you would get better performance out of a gaming laptop with a i9 or R9 and a 4090.

[@Camade14]

may I ask why did you choose to go with a portable PC set-up and not with a powerfull laptop, considering the aditional gear you have to bring just to use it (keyboard, monitor, etc..)? great build btw :)

[@micahbell3119]

I was gonna ask why not go 30 series since some seem to outperform that 4060, but you answered that question :D

[@edwardhchan]

Nice and all, but really, if it is for video editing on the go, a MBP 16 or Mac Studio would have given you the same render times, cost the same, and be more portable.

[@Dusty_G]

I'd be interested in building a rig like that. My only question is what it ended up costing?

[@Uomodargilla]

Damn this is the most powerful 4L Ive ever seen. Do you think the same build with a 7900 (low consume) and a 4060 solo is a great deal or a 7800x3D undervolt is a better choice?

[@la009895]

He’s back boys!

[@GrumpyWolfTech]

If you are just using this pc for editing, then why are you using the 7950x3d? The standard 7950x is a better for cpu for this due to the higher clocks.

[@garyrichards6079]

Talking PC's ... What about the screen you'll be using ? do u take a monitor with ? ...

[@axtran]

I'm all about that PC SFF life, but wouldn't it have been less expensive to just get a M1 Ultra Apple Studio?

[@Dragon151415]

Would love to see an update on chrometheus

[@RomanVarl]

Good built, but processor is about 2x overkill compared to video card. Could have got the same performance with Ryzen 5

[@Grqphx]

what is that backpack the first one you show in the video

[@sinwashereable]

Out of curiosity has anyone ever had issue on transporting an AIO for international flights? Trying to figure out what PC parts I can bring when I move.

[@mikkazuki]

The 8TB SSD will not overheat, since no heatsink?

[@intermarer9145]

hm, how was the noise, though?

[@jasandper]

It’s too much cpu for that enclosure. Why use a CPU that you have to under volt just to accommodate the cooler? I would use the CPU that I can get maximum performance out of while using that low profile cooler which would probably be the 5800.

[@amplitudevibes9079]

Your opinion on windows 11 recently?

[@johnaaronlim933]

I thought u had built a sff pc on the sktc a07?

[@adelm2877]

Is there any reason you use h264 on 4k rather than h.265 ? Thank you

[@emircosic7860]

How about RTX 4000 SFF Ada Generation with no 6 pin or 8 pin cable needed to run it as it sucks the power through the PCIe port. Not to mention the huge increase in VRAM…

[@heirtothethrone000]

And spend an extra $1400 😂😂😂😂

[@markdavenportjr5129]

Wow its almost computex already and i just recently got a job wow how time flies. :)

[@pav1u]

with 2 nvme you are running at 8x pci-e speeds??