Recasting Warhammer Terrain on a Budget!!!

In this video Adam makes silicone moulds to convert the Games Workshop Gondor Tower kit into some awesome rubble!
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[@christinagrimwade8702]

Keep the chunks of silicone from failed molds, and use that to bulk out future molds so you don't use as much. :)

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Definitely going to do this thank you!!! 🙏😊

[@EspenShampoo25]

Thats very clever!

[@jmaccsarmiesofmiddleearth]

Not sure I can financially support a criminal! How dare you recast GWs reasonably priced terrain.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Hahaha how dare I improve a non modular terrain kit! 🙄😆

[@syd4890]

Outrageous! 😂

[@mykyzer23]

Lol reasonably priced funny joke!😂😂😂😂

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

@@mykyzer23 hahaha yep 🤣

[@lilv3966]

“Reasonably priced terrain” I don’t understand this language you’ve decided to use. Is it Latin or something. Very unfamiliar.

[@dougwhiddon8227]

I've done a lot of recasting like this and I would recommend simply filling the entire tower with clay. The clay is cheap, and you can reuse it later for other projects. Also, building the mold boxes out of foamcore is good, but so are Lego bricks. I have a bucket of Lego and Lego knock off bricks I bought cheap that I use for this stuff.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

That sir is genius!!! Why did I not think of that?! 😅

[@4lvarro]

I just loved how quickly everything went wrong! hahahah. Glad that at least we all learnt a lesson here! Thanks for that! :D

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Haha yeah it did kind of go pear shaped didn't it!

[@timreeves]

for future reference, with silicon first carefully paint on a skin layer of the piece you are doing, stippling into any cracks and details, and on any edges that leaks may be an issue and wait for it to set, this will ensure you don't get any air bubbles trapped and don't get any leaks from your main pour :)

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

That's a great tip thanks Tim! 😊

[@RabtasticPaints]

This is the best anti-recasting video I've ever seen... I hope GW reward you with mountains of plastic 😂

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Hahaha yeah I had to rinse my mouth out multiple times after that disclaimer! 😅

[@Balambambuny]

Nice job! I will always be a fan of getting the max amount of use out of those expensive plastic kits. A tip for plaster: You can coat it using poliurethane resin, the one you get in A and B components and is mix 50/50. The dry plaster is porous, and will absorb the resin, which will then cure from the inside of the plaster. Every porous material can ge given this treatment, like carboard or wood. Thanks for showing your mistakes too, it helps a lot.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Wow that’s a great tip! Thanks mate, will definitely try this!!!

[@paulwalker5221]

Great video thank you, whenever I think I can make terrain with silicone moulds I will watch this video.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks Paul, I appreciate that! 😊

[@thedimensionsrunner2655]

When u have complex/hollow pices to cast, fill the mould box with water first, to see if there are leaks.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Yeh that would have been the smart thing to do! 🤣

[@joek600]

@@dicedrinksanddadjokes Not with foam core!!

[@realwords4713]

Great video! Did make me laugh watching all the pitfalls along the way, but you overcame and the final board looked amazing in your other video 🙌🏼 love all the cost saving aspects as-well as naturally not everyone can create the massive boards that we all aspire to build! Thank you and keep up the good work!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah have to keep costs down somehow right? 😅

[@mikevincent8728]

I'm ashamed to say that first pour had me in fits. Only just stopped uncontrollably crying 🤣 But the result was worth it, dude. Looking ace!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Nothing like watching epic fails for a laugh! 🤣 Thanks man!

[@stephenx2857]

as a tip there are DIY silicone molding techniques. from much cheaper store bought silicone. corn starch putty molds, and soap soft mold techniques. And if you're ok with using clear acrylic resin (that is much less thermo) can use much much cheaper/easier gelatin molding techniques. simple reality is. rubber silicone molds are just too expensive for one off casts. if you need to make a spare bit, or even a larger piece. highly recommend trying gelatin molds with clear acrylic resins. overall price point is much much less. (and gelatin is reuse-able ---just microwave/chill it each time need to recast/switch molds)

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks for the detailed advice, much appreciated 😁

[@brettbesley1362]

A really good concept, thanks for sharing. And thanks for the lessons learned

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks for watching! Not sure how you did actually because I haven't made it public yet! 😅

[@brettbesley1362]

@@dicedrinksanddadjokes I was just going through your videos, and there it was 😁

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

@@brettbesley1362 yeah I didn’t realise that if I put it in a playlist it would show up for people 😆 whoops! Oh well you got a cheeky advanced screening, was going to drop it this weekend and hope I don’t get in too much trouble with GW! 😅

[@Sasasala386]

For anyone reading in in the future. If you are casting a mold for HOLLOW THINGS USE CLAY. Completely fill the interior with clay, just have to wash it after

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Absolutely second this 👆🏼 Wish I'd thought to do this haha 😅

[@snowy5628]

The roof and hot glue fiasco had me rolling 😂

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Haha yeah that was pretty stupid of me!

[@xEzekielx1]

Great vid mate! Looking forward to seeing the next one on the south gondor table!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Haha thanks mate! Working on it right now! 😁

[@boardgamewoodsman8378]

You're probably aware of Robert Tolone on KZbin. Silicone mold master and resin caster. I watch his videos for a lot of the same reasons I watch the joy of painting. I think you're experience sums up why i will probably never actually try silicone mold making and casting, but I guess it's a good tool to have in your arsenal. A lot of fun to watch regardless and love the board. You make Zorpa Zorp better. You ought to make him give you some of his patrons 😂😂

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Haha yeah I'm still waiting for all those patrons! Thanks for watching 😁

[@mikeglasswell-gameplay]

4:05 number 1 Anime betrayal of all time

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Yep that clay really let me down in that moment! The 2nd time it happened was just me being plain dumb! 😆

[@chillumaperios1873]

The old lesson you never forget..we have all been there mate.. love the content

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Oh yes plenty of lessons learned for sure! Thanks for watching mate! 😁

[@cameronlaw8383]

That second silicone pour was nerve racking stuff! The board is looking class.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks mate! Yeah I was sweating for sure 😱

[@andytucker9573]

This was so entertaining lol... in the end it looks awesome!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks Andy!!!

[@olivermiller6084]

wow thats a nice vid good job lots of ups and down

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks Olly! 😊

[@olivermiller6084]

@@dicedrinksanddadjokes Anytime and secretly we all now zorpazorp hordes his plastic crack haha

[@greghemington2655]

Such a cool idea! The board is starting to look awesome too mate 👏

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Haha thanks maaaaate!

[@joek600]

When you are making your first molds and casts, its only certain that some things will go the wrong way. You managed to have ALL things going wrong in ways I could never imagine! Congratulations, you are a hobby disaster pioneer 🤣🤣. Subscribed. On a positive note I really liked your build in the end. If you want a cheap way to make silicone molds for big terrain pieces, you can always try hardware store silicone caulking (the one that smells like vinegar) + corn flour. There are several videos online. Basically you end up with a silicone putty that you can apply over the object and it sets in about 20 min.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Hahaha yeah I wish I could say that it was all orchestrated for comedic effect! 😅 Thanks for the tip and thanks for the sub mate! 😁

[@roberthayes9615]

Awesome stuff mate! Love your videos and I am so keen to see more of this board

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks for watching Robert!

[@kapitihobbies9360]

I messed about with this stuff for a while when I was hosting multiple games at home and needed more terrain... I was mostly casting up old sector mechanicus terrain etc... as youve found its a pain in the posterior to do, messy, prone to leaks, and after youve bought all the casting rubber, resin to cast, and then mixing containers and utensils etc... honestly Im not sure it not worth just buying the kits.... seems like a good idea , but... its a lot of work and effort. Now I mostly 3d print with PLA if I want more terrain... Good video though!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Yeah you're not wrong about the effort and cost. I do however like the destructibility of plaster or even resin verses plastic. You just can't create convincing looking rubble with those plastic kits.

[@Neves1789]

Nice work mate! Some good lessons for my own recasting attempts!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks dude! I make the mistakes so you don’t have to! 😆

[@jamesb4648]

Absolutely stunning results. Can’t wait to see it finished. Thanks for making the mistakes so we don’t have to!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks mate! I made all those mistakes deliberately for educational purposes of course 😅

[@andrewlemaire2636]

That's an excellent idea!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks Andrew! Glad you like it! 😁

[@pv_hobbying]

The series of mistakes you went through is actually astounding 🤣

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Yeah, I wish I could say that was orchestrated for comedic value! 😅

[@arctichordewargaming3550]

I had this happen with the Storm of Chaos. We played an insane amount of models with 3 or 4 mighty fortresses and mammoths etc. Ever since then when I think of playing games I start to think hey why can't i recreate that. Well 20 years later I am not even close.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Haha yeah its difficult to adjust once you've touched greatness! 😅

[@filipecostavieira3680]

Hello from Brazil! Im watching every commercial in full of this channel after the disaster! You earned at least that! 🤣🤣🤣 The final work is amazing!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Hahaha thanks man! Every bit helps 😅 I’ve got plenty more to do but I’m very happy with how it’s shaping up so far. Thanks for watching 😊

[@microforgeminis]

The curse of KZbin and silicone mold making strikes again😂 I really felt for you on that first pour. There is no worse feeling than silicone leaking all over the place. A tough start but a strong recovery

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Yeah it was rough but good for a laugh! We suffer for our art! 😅😆

[@a.michaeld4981]

That really turned out fantastic !! Love it man

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks buddy! 😁

[@YanniCooper]

For your mold case, one thing to consider is making a very small batch, and using a cheap brush to paint a little bit in all the places you think the case might leak, let that set then mix the rest and do the actual pour (or if you have patience, do a water test to check if you've sealed it.)

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

That's brilliant mate, I'll definitely have a go at that next time. Thank you! 😊

[@BattleCamperHome]

May have been a painful process, but that result is outstanding

[@jmaccsarmiesofmiddleearth]

Looks shit

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Emphasis on painful. 😅 Thanks for watching Alex!

[@benjamin2629]

Looks fantastic, the plaster molded buidings were a great thickness too. It wouldnt be easy to recreate that with just the plastic kits.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks man! Yeah that's exactly what I thought 😁

[@Mryoker91]

Wow the end shot of the board looks really nice! Must be awesome to play a game on when finished!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Have to finish it first haha! But yeah it’s getting there, looking forward to being able to play some games in it for sure!

[@stevenbaker3593]

It’s going to look amazing. 😊

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks man, it’s getting there 😊

[@papazoulou9326]

Dude what the fack or these prices ? I thought people exagerrated but by the Valars, this is nuts.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Yeah it’s starting to get beyond a joke!

[@LathanM]

Standard alcohol removes hot glue and saves a ton of time.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

I did not know that, thank you!!! Will have to remember that for next time I screw up with hot glue 😅

[@Fridelain]

You might want to add some mesh material to your castings for reinforcement.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Nice tip. Thanks

[@thefiresofmordor6407]

Aw man I just laughed out loud when you said it looks like you used a little too much on the roof section. Everyone at work looked at me funny. Need to find this patron link

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Hahaha yes! I wish that I had orchestrated all those mess ups for comedic effect rather than me just being plain stupid! 😅

[@jaredmcghie7710]

Brilliant, i love that you show the wins and the fails that we all have!!! And the adjustments to make it work, looking forward to seeing the end result..a great idea for sure!!!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks Jared! Yeah it’s good to be able to laugh at yourself and learn from mistakes 😆

[@tempestterrain]

That is the funniest hobby video ever. I had a similar experience the first time I tried silicon. It's panic stations isn't it!!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Sure is! I think I went a bit balder pouring that silicone haha! Thanks for watching 😁

[@benjamin7864]

Really good video man!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks man! 😁

[@estel1991]

One of the best hobby disaster on yt😂

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks I guess 😆

[@littlerowanredhead9207]

Ben and I laughed and laughed at your first attempt!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

I wish I could say all those mistakes were orchestrated for comedic effect rather than my sheer stupidity! 😅

[@littlerowanredhead9207]

@@dicedrinksanddadjokes it wouldn’t be as funny if it was staged!

[@willdunn8846]

I use pva to secure my piece in place on a cheap plastic container. Obviously that won’t work with such are large piece like you had but it’s worth mentioning. Also why did you worry about not having enough liquid silicone to cover the tower in one go? The stuff I use joins just fine when applied to solid silicone.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

I worried because I didn’t won’t to have to buy more. As it turned out I did in the end anyway! 😅

[@polyestermammoth740]

Brilliant

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks! 😊

[@shaggydude5498]

“Mind the gap” 🤗

[@tolemykus4805]

Nice!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks!

[@kajn3206]

Yeah, that's the exact problem, either way, it's unfortunately very expensive, plus, even if I do something to the terrain, I'm running out of space where to put it

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

I hear you mate, we suffer for our craft that's for sure! 😅

[@jakebarratt453]

That's looking really cool! Also, thanks for reminding me that I should never try doing this myself. 😆

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Hahaha thanks mate! Yeah I'm one of those psychos that have to double down when something fails 😆🤦‍♂️

[@grahamatkinson928]

Looks fantastic in the end, however surely you had an empty drinks bottle or food container that is already water tight?

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks Graham, turns out there were many options I didn't consider in my haste to get on with this project! 😅

[@ItsQuiteCool]

This is going to be an epic board! all's well that casts well, that what I always say 😅 Plaster ruins looks great 👍

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks man! I guess I strayed a little in that first pour, to the ruin of all…

[@xgp2071]

This video is soooooo gooooooood!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks buddy

[@GCLEM92]

I mean recasting isn’t horrible, or evil, if you’re doing if for your own personal use, recast everything.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

I hear you mate, just trying to cover my but should GW take issue! 😅

[@lokiwartooth1138]

Keep all those bits to use next time. To take up space the silicone will merge with the cured bits.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks mate will do!

[@rustedbeetle]

The rattle can is the unsung hero of this piece!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Haha yeh that rattle can put in some work!

[@Fridelain]

Hot glue will release and come off easily when wet with alcohol.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Oooh thanks I'll have to try that!

[@margaretwood152]

[$ $aving TIP] *_Cut Up_* your *_OLD, RIPPED MOLDS_* (into little Cubes) ~&~ Toss the Cut-up _Bits_ into the 2 pt. liquid when Making your *_New Silicone Molds to increase the Volume & save Materials!_* (save $100's/$1000's over time;-)

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Will definitely be doing this, thanks for the great tip! 😊

[@Bluecho4]

Piracy is merely a problem of distribution. If GW's products weren't so overpriced, people wouldn't flock to recasters.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Preach brother! 🙌

[@patsy02]

You did this the (really) hard way. You could have "just" flipped it around so it's facade-up, sealed all gaps, and poured silicone on top of it. Easier to control, no risk of floating. Great results nonetheless.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

That’s how I do it the first time round and it was disastrous! Though it probably would have worked better once I sealed things properly. Oh well, lessons learned 😁

[@andrewboddy2791]

"BRUSH-ON MOLD MAKING" is a thing

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Cool thanks

[@Artmesa]

Remember how everyone used to pirate movies/tv/music until the industry got its act together? This is the best argument for recasting and scanned stls. GW plastic kits are inflated out of greed. GW would rather throw unsold boxes in the landfill than pass on a discount. Its absurd.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Preach! 😁

[@B1-997]

when did that happen again?

[@evernightcreations]

I feel for you, this happening to you, but any time one learns molding, it's going to happen! 😂 You learn really quick about sealing every possibly Crack or seams. As far as molding the gw plastic, I know nothing.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Haha preach! Thank you! 😊

[@brianv769]

Very cool idea, love the results! Thanks for the video, and hope your wallet recovers!!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks for watching Brian! 😁

[@rexvictorhardrada]

Recasting isn't evil. Price gouging 500$ for 25$ worth of plastic and design is.

[@richh5038]

i am sorry i laughed so hard at you doing this. i resin cast and it was like a replay of my first attempts. sometimes it would have been cheaper for me to buy the thing i wanted

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Don't be sorry, I would have laughed at me too haha! I wish I could say all those mistakes were orchestrated for comedic effect and not simply my own stupidity! 😅

[@charleshowie2074]

Having dabbled in silicone/resin recasting myself, this was difficult to watch at points 😢😅 Cut up and reuse the hardened silicone and use as filler for future molds?

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Now that’s a good idea! Thanks for watching through the pain man haha!

[@enricobononi8655]

Lolol...there are tons of free available terrains ready to print.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Yeah but then you don't get to feel like a total idiot with a whole lot of wasted silicone! 😆

[@GusBus11one]

What brand of silicone are you using?

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Its called Pinkysil from Barnes

[@MikeTheGamer77]

please, for the love of god. WEAR GLOVES!!! Started whacking at the piece with a sharp utility knife, while holding hte piece with his hand. JFC.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Fair point! That wasn’t very sharp of me. Thanks for your concern buddy 😁

[@julianking3847]

Where abouts in NZ was this?

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

In Rotorua based

[@loganwallace3159]

R O A D

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Hahahaha how has this become a meme?! 🤣

[@longle88]

i have no qualms on recasting gw stuff, it isnt like theyre using their massive to pay their employees anyway.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

It would be so nice to get some free stuff from them but I don't see it happening 😢

[@arctichordewargaming3550]

I'm gonna guess you called down the GW nurglings in the machine and that's why it didn't work lol

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

The great eye of GW! Hahah either that or my own stupidity! 🤣

[@the_arcanum]

Given how many GOOD tutorials there are on the Internet on how to make a silicone mold (i'll only mention Brick in the Yard, Smooth-On, Bill Duran or Robert Tolone for reference but there are dozens more, many from the prop making community), that was... painful to watch. Silicone is a pretty expensive material, you have to do the prep work if you want a successful cast that doesn't cost more than what you intend on copying. I hope you learned a thing or two from the experience.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Oh I surely did! I've got the process down now. I severely underestimated how much I would need to seal everything. Oh well, there are no mistakes... only lessons! 😅

[@jmaccsarmiesofmiddleearth]

I totally disagree. I'd much rather watch someone make an arse of something and explain how they learned from it rather than channels that just pretend to be perfect and hide their mistakes. Also it's way more entertaining watching him waste his money and make an arse of it.

[@Mini-magnet_monster-40000...]

Talks about making reckless financial decisions then pulls out a dewalt glue gun. Bro your a natural don't think you need any help lol.

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Not to mention the boxes of unpainted minis in the background 😅

[@paulfarr7]

A PSA for how not to use Silicone 😂

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Haha yeh, I made the mistakes so other don’t have to! 😆

[@filipecostavieira3680]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheMarcosvolta]

Goddamn I love recasting!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Haha yeah it’s pretty satisfying when it works 😅

[@MVeminor7]

Hi Adam, good work? Great content!

[@dicedrinksanddadjokes]

Thanks Michael!