Recording Drums at Sunset Sound (Studio 1) - Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi Friends! In this video I'm recording a very particular Drum sound at Studio One at Sunset Sound. We were going for a classic Motown/Stax and Atlantic sound for these tracks, no hole in the kick, toms with little sustain and cymbals with a lot of personality vs a splashy wash! Which studio would you like to see us record at next? Let me know below! Be sure to check out the Cheap vs Expensive Drum recording Video here:- kzbin.info/www/bejne/e36vi59rZ8atbMkm24s

[@blakecurtis7809]

Electrical Audio in Chicago. Steve albini. Or Trident studio in California, Juan Urtega. Juan mostly does death metal bands, he did do a Ted Nugent album. But he does outstanding work.

[@MuricaMusic]

@MorbidManMusic +1 for that! Would be hugely interesting to see how the pros get on in our makeshift studios. Would definitely learn a ton from that!

[@BrandonKraemerbk]

@@blakecurtis7809 +1 for a Steve & Warren summit at Electrical Audio. Pack some black coveralls Warren ;-)

[@ewancunningham]

I'd like to see you record in my tiny home studio, it's got some real challenges like the lack of any sort of floor space and sensitive neighbours!!

[@danpeltier1354]

MY STUDIO WARREN AHAHA

[@Newsky79]

The complete breakdown including real time isolation of mics and boosts so that we can see/hear is such a gift! Thank you SO MUCH for ALL of your content @Warren Huart The knowledge and experience that you share with us is very appreciated! :)

[@Producelikeapro]

Newsky79 that’s very kind of you! This is exactly why I do this my friend!

[@bigrivermedia762]

That snare sounds so damn great through the 47's capturing the high room.

[@Producelikeapro]

Big River Records thanks ever so much my friend! You Rock!

[@billyhughes9776]

My gosh -- quality -- that room sounds amazing.

[@ihave2feet]

The 67 on the wall sounded incredible!! Was not expecting that at all!

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi ihave2feet thanks my friend!

[@tigerfish66]

as a keen hobbyist, making pretty awful tunes using PC based tools like "Reason" with a novation keyboard, I simply LOVE these videos from Warren, super informative, super clear to understand and brilliantly produced, also great hearing pro's converse in the true language of the pro studio.......brilliant vid and once again thank you..

[@MuricaMusic]

Another fantastic and ridiculously helpful video Warren. Honestly, I've learned so much from you you practically produced our last album! Please never stop doing you.

[@catfinger]

Can confirm, am in band

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks Murica! That's great to hear! This is why we do what we do! You rock my friend!

[@johnjones833]

Truth. Blessed to have u on KZbin

[@MuricaMusic]

@@Producelikeapro thanks so much!

[@bgmmusic9522]

Same

[@samgunn12]

Between you, Beato, and Neely I’m learning so much. It’s like one on one courses with the best professors on KZbin. Thank you for all your hard work.

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi Sam Gunn wow! Thanks ever so much my friend! I really appreciate it!!

[@burnradio9681]

Who's Neely? Sounds like something I want to check out too :)

[@winterjps]

That 67 room mic has the vintage vibe in spades!

[@Producelikeapro]

J.P. Winter Sichelschmidt thanks ever so much my friend!

[@ShawnskiEubanks]

When you fired up the mono talk-back mic it sounded like an old Motown recording all by itself. What an amazing room and assortment of gear. Thanks for sharing! Your channel rocks even when you're off on vacation.

[@Producelikeapro]

Wow! Thanks ever so much! I Really appreciate it! Yes, lovely to be on holiday!!

[@nickwallette6201]

Reminded me a bit of Robert Plant's Manic Nirvana. Man I love the sound of that record. SO good.

[@TresSeaver]

I thought exactly the same: that talkback was perfect all by itself for that sound.

[@marvinshenk]

When I was a working engineer, the drums were always my favorite thing to record. I recorded alot of metal/hard rock, and the setup I developed for the kick drum was- 1. No outer head on the kick drum. 2. A sandbag placed inside the kick with a Shure PZM mic sitting on the sandbag. 3. An AKG D 112 or Senn MD421 or Shure Sm7A inside pointed at the beater. 4. A condenser mic about two feet in front of where the outer head would be. 5. A tunnel made from packing blankets covering the kick and all mics on the kick. With a setup like that, I would get a super fat and isolated sound every time.

[@jorrickthole6505]

Totally agree on the no resonator. For metal it makes the kick controllable and less boomy. Less gating necessary. And a fuck ton of parrallel compression 😁

[@andrewarbogast1]

My favorite type of videos from @Produce Like A Pro I know it's not the exact same thing because it's plugins but I start with Waves 550As on each drum as if they're "tracked" with them.

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi Andrew Arbogast that’s fantastic to hear my friend! Glad to be able to help!

[@splashesin8]

I love the idea of being able to just quickly and tactilely get so much done. Thanks Warren'

[@Producelikeapro]

Audrey Sims thanks my friend!!

[@adammartin7007]

This is a REALLY good breakdown, especially allowing us to hear the various mics in isolation as you go around the kit. Thanks!

[@Producelikeapro]

Many thanks Adam!!!

[@darlenesheffield9835]

I agree Adam !!

[@BrandonKraemerbk]

In a session like this, do you record all the settings of the control room gear on paper so you can recall it? What would be really interesting for some of your audience is to see a diagram or a recall sheet of your setup.

[@soejrd24978]

There are some small kicks, like Khruangbin uses (really small ones) and they have such a great tight and boomy bottom end. I love the sound of those kickdrums.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks for sharing!! I appreciate your insight!

[@accobodla]

Been a Pro Engineer for a long time but this is lovely to hear. Great studio and of course a marvellous engineer.Thanks.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much my friend!!

[@gribb5967]

Something I would like to see discussed is the use of tape on cymbals. You see it all the time in videos but people rarely discuss in any sort of detail. Maybe for a future video? Cheers.

[@Producelikeapro]

Gribb 59 absolutely my friend!

[@adrianwagner336]

what a big booming sound you got from the cute lil kick!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi ADRIAN WAGNER haha exactly!

[@mark52111]

$40 vintage Japanese kick drum, with budget/student lugs (6). Sounded amazing. Love it.

[@martinsarango5635]

Matt is one of the coolest people in the world. Plus he's an amazing drummer

[@AudioReplica2023]

I Love API550's for mixing. They just makes you work fast , straight to the point , and no frequency fuckarounditis syndrome. LOL

[@Producelikeapro]

Haha I hear you Isaac!

[@the72u7h4]

I love the overhead only sound of that kit, it's so lively. I'd just roll that way :)

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes! Great overheads in that amazing room, with a great drummer who plays evenly!

[@F3gse3ite83zyk]

5:49 - What size it is? - Twenny - so Twenty - Yeah...

[@johnmorgan4921]

Love Sunset Sound, always learning something new!

[@Producelikeapro]

It's such an amazing studio John!

[@MarcBecker_Music]

Great breakdown Warren, thank you. This drum kit in this room sounds awesome.

[@Producelikeapro]

Indeed Marc! You're very welcome!

[@lahattec]

Wow. That snare was popping with the high room mics.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks Clay! You Rock!!

[@charles-emilebeaudin3058]

That room sounds gorgeous!

[@Producelikeapro]

I agree Charles! Amazing Studio!!

[@gagsmedia]

This is brilliant! Having a video that you can hear each drum individually in realtime is so helpful...Thanks mate :) x

[@Producelikeapro]

gagsmedia so glad to be able to help my friend!!

[@alphaomegamusicstudios8467]

Very well broken down and great explanation on how you got the drum sound! So fun seeing Sunset room 1! Good stuff Warren. Thanks!

[@paulEmotionalaudio]

Brilliant, got my old engineer juices flowing. Thanks for sharing and from such a legendary studio too. Lovely to see the old AMS reverb and delay boxes in the racks as well. 🙌

[@boxabeatrecordings6309]

Great, great information that connects drum part to microphone choice to location to EQ. BTW, I was blown away by the sound of the high room mics. I was drooling all over my screen :-). Thank you Warren!

[@MartinVanDerSande]

Great insight Warren, thank you!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much Marty!!

[@Czyszy]

I can't wait for the Sunset Sound drum multisamples you've announced.

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes! Coming soon my friend!

[@parnellitube]

That kick sounds great in that room.

[@Producelikeapro]

parnelli jones thanks ever so much my friend!!

[@nickwallette6201]

It really does. I *LOVE* that it's a cheap clone bought for peanuts on Craigslist. For one, it shows what you can do with skill and good tuning. Second, it's just inspiring knowing that there are professionals out there holding on to the "if it sounds good, it IS good" philosophy, rather than getting wrapped up in pretense.

[@Gracebeliever077]

I really enjoyed how you soloed the various mics and let the drummer play.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@skullzstudio]

I used the hi-hat doublemiking trick the other day in my studio I really really love the sound

[@gbaxter6465]

Is the air pressure from the kick a threat to the Coles 4038? I use a long ribbon Cascade mic in a similar position but always put a pop filter in front of it out of concern for the ribbon.

[@Producelikeapro]

It's quite a long way away so not much of an issue for SPL, plus I've found the Coles never to have an issue with distortion, at least not the few hundred times I've personally used them! haha I'm sure there's an expert who will tell me I'm wrong though!

[@williamclark3683]

Warren...this is freaking awesome. thank you. I now need to upgrade from my 8 channel interface...I needed a good reason to do that, and here it is

[@Producelikeapro]

haha!

[@royglennie]

Warren, love these videos! Great to see techniques that people can perhaps apply to their home studios to improve their skills! Thanks a million!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much Roy!!

[@royglennie]

@@Producelikeapro Nae probs, it's the truth haha! I've used various of these golden nuggets of info myself!

[@glennnmurphy]

I love all of your videos ! But this one by far one of your best videos! The hands on approach will really appeal to everyone ! Hint hint

[@Producelikeapro]

Wow! Thank you ever so much Glenn!

[@vancedylan5842]

Great up and personal session, thanks dude.

[@Producelikeapro]

Vance Dylan you’re very welcome!!

[@norepetitivebeats]

There is some magic with those API EQs when boosted at higher frequencies. They seem to just create air out of nothing. Love them for that on bass.

[@ectyka]

Nothing like a clean and organized recording studio 👌🏽

[@glennnmurphy]

The 67S sounded amazing on the overheads !

[@Producelikeapro]

Love those mics!! Truly amazing!

[@davidcurtis4478]

Cool Warren, hope you're well dude. Keep the passion! DC

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much David!!

[@tsargoyle]

Really interesting video and a great breakdown and isolation of each mic set. Those high room mics sounded incredible.

[@darlenesheffield9835]

I agree !!

[@adrianlyord5300]

Enjoyed watching this video! Yes it would be interesting to see you do a video using old cheap microphones and minimal microphone setup ,etc. I love the Motown and James Brown ( early 60s / early 70s) recording sounds, it would be interesting to see how you can reproduce those sounds ! Thanks for the inspiration Warren, good job !

[@drummerjeroensimons]

Thanks very very much Warren for this golden video!!! I hope to record in the future there too (maybe with you and David, I keep that open..;) ) I feel blessed that I could record in the famous Wisseloord Studio 1, Hilversum, The Netherlands in my mid twenties with Epica... I really enjoyed the crew/studio-environment there too.. In the morning they even tuned my drumkit, that kind of professionalism and higher standards and working TOGETHER for the bigger picture is what I love man!!! Later I worked as a sessiondrummer with Hot club de Nashville ( Dave Pomeroy/Pat Bergeson , who worked with Vinnie too...) Moral of the story is: They all were very friendly, passionate, talented, blessed and no ego... My deepest respect for anybody!!! (I hate bragging and jealousy, its a waste of time..) And this awesome PLAP Academy too!!! Let, s help eachother the best we can!!! :) :) Have a good holiday Warren!!!!

[@danielarendarski8020]

Hi Warren. I would love to thank you for such a high quality content and your passion to this art called music. I wanted to ask If there will be episode with Lenny Kravitz. That would be great to see his equipment and outstanding amount of memorabilia and also the passion and unique style:)) all the best Daniel

[@TheReal_Dicey]

Question on the Tom bottom mics. Just from the video it looks like you have them pointed straight up and close to the skin. In my mind it would make sense to mirror them for so when you flip that polarity they're more in phase, so this has caught my interest. Is there a reason you positioned them the way you did?

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi Dicey, thanks for your comment! It's always best to listen rather than look! I move the mics until I get the best phase/polarity cancellation then hit the phase/polarity reverse and I get the best results! Unfortunately due the nature of a Tom that doesn't always look exactly opposite, however I would imagine if you're just trying to set up your bottom tom mics without listening to them, then I'm sure your method would be better than placing them randomly. I hope that helps?

[@TheReal_Dicey]

@@Producelikeapro It does thanks :) I'll be trying that on toms myself in the future

[@TheLeon1032]

what an amazing video, not just information wise but insight wise, i don't quite know how to put my finger on it but you do vids sometimes that slot perfect puzzle pieces into my knowledge and feel library, being knackered after a long days work its great to feel inspired and re energised when it all just makes a bit more sense!! thank you

[@Producelikeapro]

TheLeon1032 wow! That made my day my friend! Thanks ever so much!

[@nixc1972]

Great video as always. Would love that desk in my basement!

[@darlenesheffield9835]

We ALL would!

[@nixc1972]

@@darlenesheffield9835 I heard it's PLAPs next giveaway.

[@vutall]

Wow, the amount of money recording those drums is insane! Sounds amazing. That kick is huge. I was surprised at how much tome/ping the snare had from the top mic, but blended all together it masked well.

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi vutall thanks for your comment! I thought about the money aspect and then realised something very important and powerful! This studio has been around since the late 50’s and these mics are the same mics they have had for years! So for value for money I can’t imagine anything better!

[@nickwallette6201]

We live in a time of empowerment for amateur musicians, and it's nice to know you can squeeze a good sound out of a budget setup, but c'mon. If you have a $1M mic locker and racks of vintage gear, are ya really going to pull out the Shure PGs? nawwww... :-) It may only be 20% better than a rig 1/10th the cost, but if you can, you should, right?

[@bluwavdave]

Thanks for this terrific breakdown Warren! This will be a big help for my next live drum session!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever son much Dave! You Rock!!

[@africanviolet4773]

You are insanely helpful to amateur and semi-professional engineers. I am baffled by every new video you make. Thank you so much! Quick question; Can you talk more about how professional studios do routing? For example, I always see mixers with musicians in your videos at pro studios, which are I assume for headphone mixes. Not necessarily this sort of routing but I think a general video about pro studio/console routing might be helpful for a lot of people. Also is that a Cloud CL-2 I see with the Coles :P Wonderful work as always. Thank you so much!

[@Producelikeapro]

Wow! Thank you for the kind words Yigit!

[@sdanis]

This is a great video - thank you for sharing!

[@Producelikeapro]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@nickrobinson2276]

Awesome video! Love hearing those overheads and rooms isolated. There is something special about the api 550s. I only use plugin versions but a little mid scoop, top and bottom boost just sounds so good.

[@julianholmanaudio4807]

Slumming it again Warren, I don't know how you work in such poor conditions!! Great video btw!

[@Producelikeapro]

haha Julian!

[@lordgraga]

When listening to the clip at 5:06, I wonder what's done to phase align (or not) the kick since it sounds so loud and clear. I know it's also unmuffled, so it must be LOUD, meaning of course they all pick it up clearly, but is this just straight up the way it sounds into the console? EDIT: I continued watching the video and found some answers. Still curious about phase alignment (I know you use placement to make it less important).

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi Jacob, that's EXACTLY what we recorded. The overheads are all measured to the snare to be in phase with it. I hope that helps?

[@lordgraga]

@@Producelikeapro Absolutely! Thanks a lot for getting back to me about it, much appreciated. Very impressed with the results.

[@nickwallette6201]

There may be tools in your DAW that can help as well. Obviously zooming way in to a recorded track and checking the alignment is one way, but for e.g., Presonus Studio One comes with a really handy Scope plugin which can be set up like a real oscilloscope. You can set it to trigger on rising edge and do a one-shot capture of the first 50ms of a transient. It'll graph up to four channels, or do math functions on the inputs, so you can compare your L and R waveforms and see how they line up, in real time (well... captured in real time, and then held until you tell it to trigger a new capture.)

[@thecapsicumkid4740]

Flipping brilliant!!!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks my friend!!

[@alexleedrums311]

That was awesome. Thank you for this!

[@maurodrums8061]

Amazing as always!!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much Mauro!!

[@TheLeon1032]

yayy!!!! the context of letting us hear the mix of mics whilst hearing the seperate drums being hit is so vital, is tuning a problem? no all sounds good through the mics, great context!! bloody neumann tho!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi TheLeon1032 thanks my friend! I’m so glad to be able to help!

[@sinenkaari5477]

How to mix drums step one: Cut 400hz

[@Producelikeapro]

Niklas Airaksinen pretty good start to remove the low mids! Typically I cut 350 in the actual mix! However 400 as a fixed point on the @sunsetsoundrecorders console is a great start!

[@sinenkaari5477]

Low mids in my mixes is the thing i started to focus on more about one year ago becouse of your videos

[@neilregan2488]

That was my take away too, other than when recording place mics all over your house and possibly put one in your neighbours backyard, get the real feel of the neighbourhood in your mix.

[@sinenkaari5477]

@@neilregan2488 i need to try this now. Thanks

[@blakecurtis7809]

Being a snare drum junkie, I used a pearl Stevie Ferrone signature snare for years. Basically a Ludwig black beauty clone, brass shell. Recently picked up a Tama birch/bubinga 14x7 with die cast rims. And could not be happier. The sound I have been after for decade's. My first wood snare and wished I gave them a chance years ago. That said drop some cash on a good snare and get familiar with it, upgrade parts when necessary. Add good playing techniques, you are set. Yamaha rules!

[@drummerjeroensimons]

I know that feeling man, enjoy it, music and for us also drums/drumgear is such a big part of our lives!!! Yeah!! I wish you the best!! Cheers, Jeroen Simons. Ps. Worldmax (black dawg,aluminium snares, etc) has great snares too for a lower price...And I recently bought a drumgear snare, also brass...It,s great to have choices, one song could sound better with snare A, then B. etc...It,s all context..

[@Producelikeapro]

I used to have a Yamaha Steve Ferrone Snare! I can whole heartedly agree! It's amazing!! I wish I still had it!!

[@blakecurtis7809]

Jeroen Simons Hell yeah man. Worldmax, never heard of them and will definitely check them out.

[@blakecurtis7809]

Produce Like A Pro I'll keep an eye out heh heh. Cheers.

[@blakecurtis7809]

Jeroen Simons To add: I always try to use 1 snare for recordings and live performance. There is something about having a " go-too" snare. I play mostly in extreme metal bands yet play as many styles as I can. I like being able to just tune up or down, add muffling or let it ring if needed. But I generally keep it the same. I do want to start using a Auxiliary snare for effects. My main is a medium low tuning that is more of a barking sound, great snare wire sizzle. The auxiliary would be a higher tuned crispy crack sound. For me the downside to my main medium low tuned snare is doing gravity blasts, for the metal guys, or the one handed roll. Having a higher tuned snare has better rebound for that. So I am working on better technique. I use it sparingly but do not want to lose it in the mix. Ahh the pains of being a drummer heh heh. I checked out those snares, look sweet. Thank you for the tip.

[@mikesparks3398]

love all these video's! Thank you Sir!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks Mike!

[@marcclement7790]

Had a slight time warp.......for a moment I thought that was a young Levon Helm sitting behind the kit

[@Producelikeapro]

Marc Clement wow! That would be amazing!

[@darlenesheffield9835]

I am very sure the drummer would be very pleased to hear that comparison!

[@ChristianIce]

When Warren is really pissed off with you, you'll hear him saying "You're like 400 Hz to me!" :)

[@RS-pp7ng]

I liked everything save for the fact that the positioning favoured the snare in the middle and the kick a little offset to the left. I generally prefer to set an axis where the kick and snare are 'aligned' in the middle. Just a personal preference.

[@TimKaseyMythHealer]

Did anyone else notice the irony of a million dollar studio and a $70 kick drum purchased on Craig's list? Reminds me of Eddie Van Halen's guitar used on the first Van Halen album (also recorded at this same studio) was something under $200.

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi Tim, thanks for your comment! Instruments have never had to be expensive to be great! The 'Stairway To Heaven' Acoustic, Danelectro, Silvertone, Harmony, 70's Yamaha Acoustics, some of the best cymbals with tons of character are the cheap Paiste Cymbals from 70's and early 80's, the list is endless! Heck one of most famous mics ever of course is the AKG D19, The Beatle mic, that was AKG's base level dynamic! One of the Basses that we used that day was made of plastic and was $40 when new!

[@TimKaseyMythHealer]

@@Producelikeapro Yes,, the Danelectro (played one of those in a music store a few years back) had more character than any guitar I've ever played. The sales guy knew this and thought I might like it. It looked so cheap with that metal round bar for a pickup.

[@Producelikeapro]

Yes, indeed@@TimKaseyMythHealer! Most of my favourite instruments are fairly inexpensive or home made! Think the 'Red Special' Brian May's guitar for instance!

[@jppagetoo]

@@Producelikeapro Ding! First Queen reference on this video! Do I win a prize for finding it first?

[@Producelikeapro]

jppagetoo haha a big pat in the back! Haha

[@brunomaiamusic]

Must admit, seeing you in action in that live room out of that control room totally changed the effect of my initial bias. You mixed down your image. That kick drum miking is fierce. I think that (what I believe to be Ambassador Fiberskin) no hole worked well to my (I know you r ears find it plastic) Yamaha HS7s, like a kick ass. the tuning of that immaculate response Fiberskin being lower ( what I believe lack to a lot of tom tuning these days) resonate over the kick tone and the bleed to everything else. This is to be cataloged for further use. No muffling? Even the snare harmonics blend in and are great . The zilds constantinople , mate are multi character! A ride and a medium ride of those would do any gig, with those thousand tones. And the irish Jameson under my words may explain me admitting I totally changed my mind about you. Well done. You can rest assured of a job well done, mate.

[@jonob1365]

Just brilliant! I know you don't work in home studios but would you consider doing a budget drum home studio video to show what you would do in that situation. Dealing with room acoustics and dampening as well to get a sound you would find acceptable. It's a long shot but I'm all outta Neumanns and my Coles is in the shop too.

[@kosycat1]

ohhh wow. I have 3 42's and I got rid on a floor tom I might try one on bottom of the rack tom to try to cancel some of the cymbals bleed out

[@patrickjosephtobin8014]

57 n 58 always great

[@Bluelagoonstudios]

My favorite big studios in the world, Sunset Sound, if you follow the podcasts they make are mind-boggling, what is made there is enormous, back in the day. And I'm happy Paul keeps it open. A big giant left us the Capitol studio's, that's sad. Back then these studios were open 24/24 can you imagine that? And still these API consoles, I'm in love :) errr I can't believe they have a Behringer 8024 in there, still. With the AES/ EBU option they sound decent, but those analog converters are sssssssssssssss so not usable. I have still a 9024 and a 8024, but they are used to filling up rack space.

[@luidrummer]

Other than the Frey, what other drum tracking records you’ve track I can listen to on iTunes.? Love your work. I’ve watched your drum sessions over and over..! I’m glad you uploaded this one. Much appreciated brother. Cheers from Tampa, Florida.

[@DanDuskin]

So good!

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi Daniel Duskin thanks ever so much!

[@BrandonKraemerbk]

When setting the under snare mic, are you miking the snares or the head? Are you keeping the bottom mic the same distance to the batter head as the top mic or equidistant to the bottom head as the top mic is to the batter head, and then reversing phase?

[@Marcel0BL]

Thanks for your vídeos. They inspired me. Cheers from Brasil.

[@stephanieleclercq890]

Fantastic video ! Thanks Warren for all. It's really amazing to see all your settings. I'm going to try this the next time I record the drum of my boyfriend 😜

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks Stephanie! Please do! Let me know how it goes!

[@heartstringssound-Doug]

I'm going to ask what some might say is a stupid question, but I'm fairly new to mixing/engineer. Here goes; with all of the additional mics, top and bottom, 3 at kick, floor mics, wall reflection, etc., most of the mixing frequencies are dealing with 2 or more mics in the same frequency. Aren't you going to have a lot of frequency cancellation? I know you're going for trying to get the best sound. So do you choose which mic recordings to use and which to not? Thus eliminating cancellation? I'm anxious to get explanation of this. Learning a lot from the project. Thank you and Rock On! Doug Pinckney

[@chrishopkins209]

That talkback mic sounds great on it’s own!

[@johannessamuelsson6578]

How about using a boundary mic inside the kick? My other teacher at university uses a Shure Beta 91 as well as regular mica and a subkick for his kick sound.

[@RandyHanley]

Your videos are amazing by the way!

[@artist1303]

I recorded a kick drum with a d12 and after the session going back to clean up the stems I noticed at the end of the kick hits there is a faint second woof sound. It's not a double hit. What would cause that? The position of the mic was half way inside the hole of a gretch kit and its pointed towards the better head. Thanks Warren!

[@Producelikeapro]

Artist 1 interesting question! It could be a number of things. Sometimes the cable touching the head can give you an additional noise, otherwise I would have to see the set up to make an informed estimation of it.

[@nickwallette6201]

Watch your drummer play. Do they bury the beater in the head, or touch it and go? You sometimes hear a light thudud of the beater bouncing when someone's tapping the head, but on the other end of the spectrum, maybe they're holding the beater at full contact, and when they let off the pedal, the front head is returning to shape and also sucking air in through the port hole.

[@ozty2000]

Did you end up using the floor mic. It sounds awesome by itself even. How did you blend it with the rest of the kit. Incredible. Thank you for sharing.

[@Producelikeapro]

Danielle Kerley yes! They are great sounding mics!

[@ryancoopisawesome]

Have you ever done a video of hardware compression?

[@chrusomana]

How exact do you have to measure the Overheads to the Snare? Does it have to be exactly the same distance or are a few centimeters no problem? And what do you use to measure the distance? Thanks for your videos Warren, they help a lot!

[@magicchord]

So I guess I'd bus the Kick to track 1 and everything else to track 2 of my 80-8. Or should I make it a stereo pair? You gotta watch out for HF loss on those edge tracks.

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi Pat Bryant we always used to do HiHat on track one (because it was also in the overheads) and SMPTE on the last track!

[@magicchord]

@@Producelikeapro Heh heh. I don't really track to tape anymore but I just can't part with my 8-track (actually an Otari) for some reason. Damn thing's built like a tank. ;)

[@aleksanderdjuran8010]

Warren, thanks so much for another amazing video! I'd love to ask you for an opinion. I'm currently looking to buy my 1st 1073 and 1176, but I'm having a hard time deciding between the GAP 73 Premier, and the Warm Audio WA73. Would you happen to have any experience with either unit? What should someone hunting for their 1st major external chain be careful of? Cheers!

[@Producelikeapro]

You're very welcome Aleksander! We had a ton of fun with this one!

[@gbaxter6465]

Consider the UK Sound 1173. Its the best of both worlds and they didn't skimp on any components. Warren even had a hand in the design.

[@aleksanderdjuran8010]

@@gbaxter6465 I'm not sure if I have anything in my price range for that. I'm stuck between a golden age premier 73 and a warm wa73, that's all my wallet would allow me atm.

[@gbaxter6465]

@@aleksanderdjuran8010 I own some Warm Audio gear, along with some heirloom quality gear from UA, Neve, API etc and its solid stuff. Best of luck.

[@BrandonKraemerbk]

Warren you went over the EQ and compression settings and just briefly mentioned the Sunset Sound mic pre's.... I'm curious about how you set your gain stage(s) and how that might differ based on what pre you have?

[@beautifulllife1234]

I recently tried an sm7 on the bass drum and a boundary mic inside to capture the beater and it sounds killer! Would you ever recommend this bass kick mic setup?

[@slavesforging5361]

i actually liked my Senheisser E835 more than the audix D6 that came in their drum kit for the kick drum sound hole one time! surprised the crud out of me! (i used that mic for live vocals primarily). and i liked my AKG P200 cheapo large diaphragm condensor more than the sennheisser. go figure.

[@wearashirt]

What songs were these for?

[@jurgenschuler8389]

That drum sound is amazing. I especially love the sound of the cymbals, the snare and the floor mics, literally throwing some Neumanns on the floor. One question: What made you print the EQ? I've never seen you at Sunset Sound printing the 550As before. Thanks for answering and sharing! You rock!

[@nicholasholmes1871]

Hi Warren, great videos btw. They've been super helpful & they're always thorough which is amazing. These are the best videos for learning drum micing. I was wondering if you have ever thought of going over drum sounds from specific acts/ artists? I've watched so many drum micing/ recording vids of yours that I feel like I have a good idea of what the kit is going to have on it & what it will sound like at the end. It would be great to hear an experts advice for obtaining other drum sounds though. For example would be Tame Impala, as far as I understand its a super simple set up as far as mics. I've seen some people get pretty close to his sound but id love to see if you could do any better. Obviously this is just a suggestion of something id personally like to see but I think theres a lot to be learned by us & you if you gave it a shot. Thanks again for the great content!

[@allmetaliswelcome]

Have you ever tried a beater side mic when having a bassdrum without a hole?

[@luukmeijssen2515]

Great Video Warren! I've got a question about the bottom mics of the snare and toms. You're saying that you flip the polarity of the bottom mics. Of course the polarity needs to be flipped to be in phase with the top one.. But it happens to me so often that I've recorded drums, and I find myself flipping the top snare mic instead of the bottom snare one, because the top snare mic is in exactly the opposite phase with the overheads. Is this something that sounds familiar to you?

[@captainjookie]

I noticed you cutting 400 pretty much across the board, is that for clarity or to leave room for bass and low guitars, or both? I also noticed that you didn't mention the snare mics being out of phase, are they out or in with each other..? Thanks for the informational video..!

[@sacstudiosargentina]

wow!! amazing low end. I guess that's the room where the doors recorded their first albums.

[@Producelikeapro]

SAC Studios yes! Most of their albums were done in this room!

[@sacstudiosargentina]

Thank you so much Warren, you are my master.

[@TheMixClub]

Question? What motors did you use when getting levels and tones. Ps.. the drums Sound Killer.

[@Producelikeapro]

The Mix Club motors? I assume you mean Monitors? I was using the Genelecs, I also own a few pairs so I know them very well!

[@TheMixClub]

@@Producelikeapro Thanks Warren! You got it exactly, Monitors not motors.. LOL thanks again.