Red Bull 'clearly doesn't understand' biggest weakness, says Verstappen

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@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
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@Ronny999x
@Ronny999x 6 ай бұрын
Crash Damage should be taken out of the Budgetcap. Remember 2021? Red Bull was miles ahead. Then Silverstone Hungary and Baku happened. And Mercedes out developed them due to that.
@BrownHotPot0096
@BrownHotPot0096 6 ай бұрын
no sir, carlos is not the King of Spain.... that would be alonso. but I get your logic
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
Would Prince Regent be OK whilst Alonso is having a moment at Aston Martin?
@noodles669
@noodles669 6 ай бұрын
he is the king of spain... just without the S
@rpcorp
@rpcorp 6 ай бұрын
Carlos Sr. is in fact the King of Spain!
@413TomaccoRoad
@413TomaccoRoad 6 ай бұрын
Juan Carlos.
@lsdesignweb
@lsdesignweb 6 ай бұрын
Carlos is the Prince of Asturias
@JoshyS656
@JoshyS656 6 ай бұрын
You can't blame Checo for the crash... but you can definitely blame him for qualifying so badly he was anywhere near the Haas. His slump is still on him.
@rtyler1869
@rtyler1869 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. Qualify better, avoid issues like this
@takumifujiwara13954
@takumifujiwara13954 6 ай бұрын
I was literally just reading The Race's article on Logan Sargeant's issue an hour ago. It's utterly ridiculous how the team expects him to perform better with old equipment while his team-mate gets preferential treatment.
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker 6 ай бұрын
Agreed
@craigcharlesworth1538
@craigcharlesworth1538 6 ай бұрын
To be fair that's always been the dilemma in F1. If you're not performing, the team aren't going to give you the upgrades or the best parts because they want to get maximum chance of a good points return on them. But equally, how can you improve your performance if you're being handicapped like that? T'was ever thus.
@takumifujiwara13954
@takumifujiwara13954 6 ай бұрын
@@craigcharlesworth1538 I would be inclined to agree if both Sargeant and Albon HAS THE SAME hardware. But if you are only giving the best and latest parts to the better driver and then tell the other driver to "buck up" with older hardware to buck up, I'd like to tell whoever that came to that decision to go screw themselves.
@JasonAtlas
@JasonAtlas 6 ай бұрын
Yeah but Sargent is really bad so why would you?
@gerardcrabb4556
@gerardcrabb4556 6 ай бұрын
Probably help if they didn't destroy chassis and all upgraded parts before the races...
@maurizioblotta7189
@maurizioblotta7189 6 ай бұрын
If the FIA rules that an incident was another team’s fault you should be able to deduct those damage costs from the budget cap.
@BrandoN-ie1np
@BrandoN-ie1np 6 ай бұрын
Agreed... Even when it was a 60%-40% fault from both parties, the fixed damage should be deducted from their fault contribution percent
@aaldertstouwe5605
@aaldertstouwe5605 6 ай бұрын
Aaldert
@russelabbiss3067
@russelabbiss3067 6 ай бұрын
Yeah but it shouldn't be 100% of the damage costs if it was then mercedes would be almost bankrupt after Hungary 21 it should have a max cost so that one team doesn't get destroyed by a big shunt
@Rydabomb
@Rydabomb 6 ай бұрын
​@@russelabbiss3067 no one said they would have to pay for every team bud
@peterdevreter
@peterdevreter 6 ай бұрын
It's a normal cycle in F1. McLaren was unbeatable in the 80's with Senna. Williams took over in the 90's, but when the active suspension was banned they fell behind and renault took over with Schumacher and Flavio and so on and so on. RB is lucky with Verstappen because he can mask the flaws of the RB. Perez is really struggling right now, and he is a very good driver.
@Im_helpless
@Im_helpless 6 ай бұрын
This is what annoys me when people always cry about it being boring and max gonna win etc etc like f1 always goes through cycles of team dominance people are just upset because they don’t like max and or red bull
@Eis_
@Eis_ 6 ай бұрын
​@@Im_helpless It's really funny how some people would say "Put Max in another car and he will lose" while Checo is barely hanging on for P5, and they have the same car.
@AnimaDweller
@AnimaDweller 6 ай бұрын
Remember the McLaren MP4/18? I honestly feel the same thing (kinda) happened with the RB20. They "overdeveloped" a concept and pushed a bit too much for what they can handle. You can definetly push the limit but there's eventually a point where it's not really worth it or it becomes am unstable car/concept. I understand why they did it, but it's going to cost them now that Ferrari and McLaren seem to have gotten a grip to these regs.
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
I think it's more to do with diminishing returns. Perhaps the RB19 could've halted their Singapore upgrade for 2024 to have a couple more tenths in their pocket.
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 6 ай бұрын
The suspension and a teams understanding of it, is where its being won/lost. Mclaren adopted the pul/push rod setup RB had last year, and Ferrari has kept their Push/pull setup. It means they understand them alot more than the teams that jumped on the RB bandwagon without understanding it. Now that Ferrari and Mclaren are so close, that weakness over bumps for RB is being exposed. It would have been there before, but the car was so much faster it didnt matter. It could take the time loss for the better pace elsewhere. They cant do that anymore
@WhiteG60
@WhiteG60 6 ай бұрын
@@LawVS Diminishing returns is the only reason they went with the new sidepod designs in the first place. Horner said at the end of the year last year that none of the upgrades really did all that much all year long. Everyone thought he was just being cheeky, but if it wasn't true, why make the radical side pod changes? The regulations have a ceiling, and it just so happened that RB started out a lot close to that ceiling than everyone else (TD39 not withstanding). As people caught up, RB was already bouncing off the ceiling and had to make a drastic change to try and break through it. Except it seems like they just bounced off it harder. And I know this is likely just a coincidence, but what was Mercs problem with no sidepods? Bouncing/bumps and the simulator not matching real life. What's RB's problem now that they've taken away 80% of the sidepod? Bouncing/bumps and the simulator not matching real life.
@mrbungle3310
@mrbungle3310 6 ай бұрын
that would be the case, because if its in the window like china i believe if they are back at china red bull would smash that race again with the current ferrari and mclaren even but on street tracks and soft tyres i think they will struggle this season
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 6 ай бұрын
@@mrbungle3310 The Ferrari and Mclaren didnt have the big upgrade packages on in China.
@tintop550
@tintop550 6 ай бұрын
I'll bet there are a bunch of F1 engineers who would love to bring back Colin Chapman's dual chassis ground effect car, or William's electronic suspension.
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
Supposedly the drivers and engineers want active suspension back for 2026.
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 6 ай бұрын
We had it 10 years ago with FRICS, but it was banned halfway thru 2014, which is one of the things that made the 2014 Ferrari such a mess because it had the most developed system
@ljohansson6496
@ljohansson6496 6 ай бұрын
Or the Renault 2005 mass damper. That should stabilize the car.
@Naalders
@Naalders 6 ай бұрын
Checo's 2023 slump started in Miami. He got beaten by Max eventhough he started on p1 and max started p7 or p9 or something. After that he started missing Q3 consistently, even missing Q2 at times.
@lukeEmmo
@lukeEmmo 6 ай бұрын
By far the best F1 content on KZbin, the scene is crying out for some intelligent, level-headed analysis like this.
@mooneepondsmassive7016
@mooneepondsmassive7016 6 ай бұрын
I think the true reflection of how good the red bull is, is where checo qualifies and races. Maybe a bit better as he's not one of the top 5. But the point is that Max gets so much more out of the car than anyone else. I'm not a particular fan of Max (I prefer the drivers at McLaren, Ferrari, Mercedes for example), but I think Max might be the best driver I've ever seen and I've been watching since 1991.
@Phantom096
@Phantom096 6 ай бұрын
By that logic if Max drove a Mercedes they would easily be back on top.
@JackGPT84
@JackGPT84 6 ай бұрын
Red Bull encounters difficulties with street circuits, and Imola posed a distinct challenge due to insufficient data on the hard tires. Nevertheless, they have reported excellent balance on the medium tires. Additionally, the Netherlands was indeed the first country in the world to have a national anthem.
@Bird_814
@Bird_814 6 ай бұрын
Williams' treatment of Sargeant is unbelievable. Round 1 he had a bad steering wheel, Round 2 was compromised by Magnussen's defensive driving on a no overtake track. and in Round 3 Albon stole his car and Logan hasnt been on equal machinery since. He's had no opportunity to prove himself. He's been given nearly impossible goals.
@Knightlight02
@Knightlight02 6 ай бұрын
Bad steering wheel?? And how was Round 2 williams fault? Bruh
@Bird_814
@Bird_814 6 ай бұрын
@@Knightlight02 His steering wheel was changing the brake bias on its own causing him to massively lock up. Round 2 wasn't Williams' fault but it is another example of him not getting a fair go at it with team orders not to pass Albon on lap 27 after Albon had locked up on the final turn. The video of that is on my channel
@Crosby69
@Crosby69 6 ай бұрын
There is nothing to prove. He is like 0-29 in qualifying against Alex. His only point is a massive fluke. He is actually worse than Mazepin.
@Rydabomb
@Rydabomb 6 ай бұрын
​@@Crosby69don't forget that miami sprint race 😂
@Mikevide
@Mikevide 6 ай бұрын
Love the idea that you can teleport, but only to other ladders leading to attics.
@briansingleton7985
@briansingleton7985 6 ай бұрын
RB's car is still in a state in which the driver (Max) can overcome its weaknesses.
@EL1TEHD1
@EL1TEHD1 6 ай бұрын
For how much longer though
@UnknownAssailant246
@UnknownAssailant246 6 ай бұрын
Until a Crash..
@ryanlane208
@ryanlane208 6 ай бұрын
We’ll see how he deals with it, this might be a 2012 Vettel season for Max
@andrewdupper973
@andrewdupper973 6 ай бұрын
what’s happening at red bull is the time old, “one engineer can’t save a doomed project, but one manager can absolutely doom a successful one”
@WRC-FAN
@WRC-FAN 6 ай бұрын
I believe there was a famous quote "the reports of my death are greatly exaggerated". I would not dismiss Max's chance of winning the WDC just yet.
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
Me neither. I think the WDC is his to lose.
@Enzoblueblood
@Enzoblueblood 6 ай бұрын
This season is starting to look increasingly like the 2003 season (tyre war, excepted) when the new kids in town: Fernando, Juan, Kimi, Ralf, all ganged up on Michael to make him work for it.
@joachimbambury6376
@joachimbambury6376 6 ай бұрын
But Red Bull may need a Megamind to get over these issues
@cyn1clcynide
@cyn1clcynide 6 ай бұрын
​@@Enzoblueblood ah memories 😢
@erickrasniewski567
@erickrasniewski567 6 ай бұрын
​@joachimbambury6376 not really if RB can numb the bleeding and not screw up at the European tracks RB can probably win this issue will hurt them more later half of the season then right now and of course RB can double down on what they are good at straights and no bumps
@Eis_
@Eis_ 6 ай бұрын
Kind of ironic how Redbull's Strength (their ability to push their car lower than others) is actively kicking them into the curb. If they can't resolve these issues while Newey is still in the team (aka the guy that may have had a hand with the antidive suspension), there's no hope for them in the future years.
@craigcharlesworth1538
@craigcharlesworth1538 6 ай бұрын
Red Bull are still in an advantageous position, due to the fact that there is no one driver emerging from the pack to challenge Max. He's won five races this season, and of the three he hasn't won Carlos, Charles and Lando have won one each. If the same driver had won all three, he'd have a fight on his hands but it looks like McLaren and Ferrari are going to be taking points off each other all year.
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
Oh of course, I still rate Max as the favourite...but the team doesn't look as assured as the other teams right now and the car isn't quite as solid as last year's. I trust Max though to drive out of his skin though.
@joshualayfield2294
@joshualayfield2294 6 ай бұрын
Lol what a delusional take. Go look at the Drivers Title and see the man that has stepped up to challenge. The same man that hasn't finished lower than 4th this year sprint or race.
@bschneidez
@bschneidez 6 ай бұрын
Wait, they had Logan running 2023 parts? ... This guy really needs a shot on another team. This is basically sabatoge.
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
Hes washed face it! NO preferential treatment because hes American, theres plenty of hungry talent out there for that seat. You already have 2 GP in America, 2 teams , be sated!😄😄
@NathanBrownisawesome
@NathanBrownisawesome 6 ай бұрын
@@alimantado373 buddy, america *the country* is about the size of europe **the entire continent**. the fact that there's only 3 gps is honestly kind of atrocious, especially when 2 of them are new street tracks, and none of them are Indy. There's only 6 gps in North and South America total, and we have 2 gps in Italy *alone*. Get over yourself.
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
@@NathanBrownisawesome 🤣🤣Insularity and priviledge right here, whens your last Champion? 1983 not even an American? before that Phil Hill . Go away watch the World series of Baseball that doesnt let the Cubans and the rest of the world except Canada in by law...same with NFL same with NBA. Dont tempt me to start embarrasing you with Jim Crow Sports. Ridiculous comment😮
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 6 ай бұрын
@@NathanBrownisawesome americans can only drive left. Look at the history over the past 70 years of F1. american drivers are generally not good enough for F1. Get over yourself and your inward looking county.
@davemieze9021
@davemieze9021 6 ай бұрын
It really is. I can’t wrap my head around when a rookie gets a seat on the “by far” least competitive team and is then judged as if he doesn’t belong in the sport. That kid can drive Formula One car. Not many can say that. I’d like to see him at Haas or one of the other midfield teams before he gets the boot. Antonio Giovanazzi got the same treatment. Dude is an F1 driver who isn’t deemed worthy of racing an F1 car. That’s just crazy to me. Sorry for the long winded reply. I don’t have many people I can talk Formula One with.
@Adogcallednoortje
@Adogcallednoortje 6 ай бұрын
It’s all just to premature. But makes the season more interesting!
@rarephoinexgames5729
@rarephoinexgames5729 6 ай бұрын
Been following ye from the start man, you are doing great and keep it up!
@viralengine908
@viralengine908 6 ай бұрын
So Pete Windsor said something funny. He thinks red bull is deliberately holding back to avoid calls for a regulation change that would put them at a serious disadvantage, and closer racing is good for the entire sport since that means all the eye balls they've been losing come back
@craiglawrence9515
@craiglawrence9515 6 ай бұрын
I haven't been so hopeful for a season in the last few years as I am now! Come on f1 let's have a classic.
@lassetiresalvatore6531
@lassetiresalvatore6531 6 ай бұрын
Red Bull's weaknesses should be learned by watching VCARB.
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
That's what Horner is doing supposedly...confirming Zak Brown's protestations.
@xavquinlan481
@xavquinlan481 6 ай бұрын
Well, at least it’s better than what Horner was doing late last year…
@captainsnack59
@captainsnack59 6 ай бұрын
Hello, thanks for the video!
@trancematt
@trancematt 6 ай бұрын
I'm curious on how sore your feet become standing on one rung for so long. Top commentary chap.
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
🤣 Pensioner insoles I suspect. A Pair of Sketchers.
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 6 ай бұрын
Weirdest part of this is Max in Monaco saying our weakness, the curbs, has now been exposed. Thing is no one knew, or at least was talking, about that being their problem. Is this a volley in the Jos/Marko war against RB? Something doesn’t smell right here.
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
Newey was the glue to the other engineers Im afraid, the godfather along with Chapman of ground effect in F1.
@Switll72
@Switll72 6 ай бұрын
@@alimantado373 Hopuim LOL!!!!
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
@@Switll72 Newey Just signed for Sccuderia at Monaco if rumors are to believed.
@nourtamer6170
@nourtamer6170 6 ай бұрын
But in 2021 developed the RB16B late into the season and still nailed the ground effect regulations
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
Yes they did but they had Adrian Newey who made his university thesis on ground effect.
@Phantom096
@Phantom096 6 ай бұрын
@@LawVSPerhaps the pointy front end VER likes has reached its limits.
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 6 ай бұрын
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
@richardm5664
@richardm5664 6 ай бұрын
Was this problem there from the start with the Red Bull ground effects cars? Perez won Singapore '22 convincingly, even in the wet, and also Monaco. Don't remember the bumpy bits unsettling the RB18 as we have seen with the 19 and 20.
@michaeldr6070
@michaeldr6070 6 ай бұрын
I feel like Red Bull should have gone with an evolution of the RB19 rather than changing concepts. Basically everyone is copying the RB19 and you could argue that a couple of teams now have a better car than Red Bull
@MrSchmekker
@MrSchmekker 6 ай бұрын
Wdym hopefully? I hope they don’t figure it out and that 31 point advantage will melt in no time
@MahF1V10
@MahF1V10 6 ай бұрын
It was nice to expirence the era of Red Bull while it lasted. It's an impossible choice to choose between 2024 and 2026. Horner has to make the call.
@tiagoferreira5368
@tiagoferreira5368 6 ай бұрын
As a RB fan i'm getting really annoyed that they are keeping Perez instead of Sainz or Sushinoda I like Mclaren and Ferrari too, especially Oscar and Sainz they are good characters. So all is good to me if they win races.
@Ponchov009
@Ponchov009 6 ай бұрын
Apparently they know something that you dont as a RB fan for keeping Perez... data and things like that, they dont base desicions on fans feelings and perspectives 😂
@pamelaisza8536
@pamelaisza8536 6 ай бұрын
Is not your choice 😂
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
@@Ponchov009Follow the Money, Perez brings the whole of South America and massive sponsorship deals. The same as he did when he signed for Force India.
@therevivalawaken.
@therevivalawaken. 6 ай бұрын
Oh they will be keeping that layout since the grandstands that were there are basically getting an update, but not sure if that part will be added back in the future
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
Oh good! I think it's much better having a proper back straight.
@annebokma4637
@annebokma4637 6 ай бұрын
As a dutchie I must inform you that Marnix van Sint Aldegonde wrote the Wilhelmus in 1572. Allegedly 😂 and yes I goigled that specially for you 😂
@davemieze9021
@davemieze9021 6 ай бұрын
Drama from the Shire! I love it. Great content sir. Hobbit On!!
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
Whos the Hobbit, Lando? (Apologies i cant help it!)
@noveltyrobot
@noveltyrobot 6 ай бұрын
The yapping ladderman
@AdminAbuse
@AdminAbuse 6 ай бұрын
Potential name for a second F1 channel if Law ever needs one
@daphnelovesL
@daphnelovesL 6 ай бұрын
The competition of Red Bull is closer now or maybe even and later on the season even better. But still Max have to win as a Max-fan.
@ruledtrendy5066
@ruledtrendy5066 6 ай бұрын
Max going at KMag. Now that's something I'd like to see
@mrbungle3310
@mrbungle3310 6 ай бұрын
well this was what i didnt expect teams catching up before 2025...
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
I know, but it's been so domineering from Max that we thought other drivers winning was a once in a blue moon event!
@mrbungle3310
@mrbungle3310 6 ай бұрын
true...i expected a slow downfall of red bull like mercedes but already the season is more interesting
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
@@LawVS Come on sir , you know dominance never ever lasts in F1. Too many brilliant minds behind it. Its what F1 is about, they should just bin the cost cap and see what cars we get from pure development! Sustainability is for road cars not gladitorial racing.
@MooncricketsInc
@MooncricketsInc 6 ай бұрын
Even with the weakness, it's still the best car on the grid. Hopefully Ferrari can give them a run for their money for the constructor title at least...
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
Yes, that's true. But there are more chances for other teams now to be even better on kerbs and front-end grip.
@MooncricketsInc
@MooncricketsInc 6 ай бұрын
@LawVS Of course. I'm a Ferrari fan, so I'm enjoying the battle between them,mclaren, and the bulls so far. Competition and different teams winning will make for a fun season, but I don't think it's doom and gloom for the energy drink team yet, although I definitely wouldn't mind it.
@jmc129
@jmc129 6 ай бұрын
I rate this from Verstappen. He doesn't accept the PC bollox, and just blurts out what is on his mind
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. He's straight and blunt. He says they need to fix it and right now it's a mystery.
@RobThompson-y9s
@RobThompson-y9s 6 ай бұрын
Piastri will soon be out qualifying Lando on a regular basis..
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
@takumifujiwara13954 FACTS... the guy is WDC material. Look I agree with you!
@apexaviour
@apexaviour 6 ай бұрын
Do you show your sim racing setup in any vids/photos? Would be fun to see, wherever it lies on the humble to grandiose scale.... just love that other people are into it and I'm not odd or something 🙃
@bjrnchrstn
@bjrnchrstn 6 ай бұрын
This year especially shows how special last year was.
@greenfj1466
@greenfj1466 6 ай бұрын
Law I think you should make driver ratings for every race because it's more views for you and more content for us
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
The Winners and Losers is what I do. :)
@greenfj1466
@greenfj1466 6 ай бұрын
@@LawVS Is every driver covered in winners and losers? If that's what you want then it's okay
@darrendearden3892
@darrendearden3892 6 ай бұрын
Perez was 100% at fault for the Monaco accident he knew KMag was there and didn’t leave a cars width (that’s stated in the rules) so how does everyone keep saying that he was not at fault at all
@Fister-Resister
@Fister-Resister 6 ай бұрын
I must say I feel pretty bad for Logan
@TheOFFICIALTAIKHI
@TheOFFICIALTAIKHI 6 ай бұрын
Mad that I saw you yesterday near the square in the area up the high street from the station. Sorry I wore a Mercedes hat instead of a McLaren hat 😅😂
@Theofiilus2978
@Theofiilus2978 6 ай бұрын
I'm new on this channel. Where has the idea to record on the ladders in the attic came from? And i know for sure if you're not wearing shoes that would start to hurt after some time..
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
I don't wear shoes. Probably should. It all came about from a skit ages ago and it stuck. To contain my lofty thoughts.
@Theofiilus2978
@Theofiilus2978 6 ай бұрын
@@LawVS Stands out and the audio is easier to control too i think. Not bad
@_ericplace
@_ericplace 6 ай бұрын
“[Mercedes is] looking better and better and better” is one of your bolder speculations lol (but it does make sense from a ‘nowhere to go but up / can’t mess up the next regulations quite as badly’ standpoint)…
@TheSickGman09
@TheSickGman09 6 ай бұрын
Keeping Perez around for yet another season makes so little sense to me. Sure carlos may not work due to the problems with Max but man there's gotta be a better choice than the guy who over the last few season has been anything other than consistent.
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
It strikes me as the safe option. Forever Rebl? Hmm.
@TheSickGman09
@TheSickGman09 6 ай бұрын
@@LawVS Yuki would be a better and to me more obvious choice at this point but idk. Sergio doesn't seem capable of a decent consistent season and with other teams catching up idk how they can avoid making a change any longer but idk. Maybe they won't mind possibly losing out on one or two of the championships next year. Or maybe I'm a little too doomer on Sergio.
@ricardoturlan
@ricardoturlan 6 ай бұрын
It’s all business. Don’t forget Carlos Slim Jr. backs up Perez. As mediocre as he is, many Mexican’s are literally willing to get a second mortgage just to buy his merchandise and attend the Mexican GP.
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
@@TheSickGman09 Yuki does not need to go to that toxic enviornment. He should leave RBR all together. Japan should have their own Honda team as in days of old.
@henkormel5610
@henkormel5610 6 ай бұрын
To believe Max Verstappen and Cristian Horner on face value is stupid. The springrate curves and the downforce curves don't match at the neccerery ridehights. The 2022 ATR penalty is hurting now because this car was developed under that penalty.
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
That's a fair point. However I doubt that Max would mince his words.
@henkormel5610
@henkormel5610 6 ай бұрын
@@LawVS Max is not 17 anymore. He knows they have a serious problem. He is a realist and he states it might takes te whole year and beyond to fix it. He doesn't know just as Horner doesn't know. Horner follows the most optimistic scenario while Verstappen follows the more realistic or pessimistic scenario.
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
@@henkormel5610 Newey .. hold my beer... Oh! Im banned from that Pub 🤣
@henkormel5610
@henkormel5610 6 ай бұрын
@@alimantado373 What about Newey? From 10-10 2022 until 09-10-2023 (dd-mm-jjjj) Red Bull served it's ATR penalty, remember? This was the time most of the development for the RB20 was done. So hold your own beer.
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
@@henkormel5610 Im not Newey? and your in denial.👍If you still dont know who invented the GE, go look it up.. FFS! 2022-23 🤣
@carlosmorgadosilva3517
@carlosmorgadosilva3517 6 ай бұрын
I really hope the rumors of Carlos Sainz and Newey going to Williams are true, I bet if they are, they will be podium contenders by 2027 and title contenders by 2030
@bobclarke5913
@bobclarke5913 6 ай бұрын
Since Logan is the only driver to get a 1 race suspension so far this year, sit Ocon out, let Logan drive his car in Canada which frees up some man hours at Williams to work on spare parts. Why didn't I see this sooner?
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
He will bin it into the wall.
@SubversionGarage
@SubversionGarage 6 ай бұрын
Gives the teams a budget, and then let them spend it however they see fit. If one teams wants to test, let them. If another wants to change the lump every session, then let them.
@SFlare
@SFlare 6 ай бұрын
Well Mercedes did win the constructors in 2021, just not the drivers. So technically a win?
@Kingofthesymbiotes
@Kingofthesymbiotes 6 ай бұрын
Hello @LawVS how are you doing today?
@espvp
@espvp 6 ай бұрын
14:07 well they did win the WCC title though not the WDC’s
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
They did. But they had to fight for it
@AB-gj8re
@AB-gj8re 6 ай бұрын
I’m waiting for the Williams revival, Red Bull has had its time
@staLkerhu
@staLkerhu 6 ай бұрын
One thing is missing from the equasion, which is money. I have no idea how the hell would they be able to sign and pay someone like Newey...
@AB-gj8re
@AB-gj8re 6 ай бұрын
@@staLkerhu dont worry theyre owned by a disgutingly rich private equity firm, as is 98% of the planet
@staLkerhu
@staLkerhu 6 ай бұрын
@@AB-gj8re hmmm, not sure then why did they suffer with the spare chassie and parts, which is still a thing...
@AB-gj8re
@AB-gj8re 6 ай бұрын
@@staLkerhu same reason other teams are, cost cap and the fact that Williams’ factory is undergoing a complete restructuring so they’ve said they have reduced upgrade capacity for now
@staLkerhu
@staLkerhu 6 ай бұрын
@@AB-gj8re costcap has nothing to do with that my man. You are not well informed, otherwise you would know they did not reach it in the past years because, surprise, they don't have enough sponsorship money
@LuteFrontier
@LuteFrontier 6 ай бұрын
RedBull needs LawVS(Team Princeaple)
@bobdrooples
@bobdrooples 6 ай бұрын
Correlation, this years word? Come on Gents, anyone who had GCSEs or A-Levels some nearly 30 odd years ago had Compare, Contrast and Correlation dialed in for most essays. This is our year, we got this.
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
I'm talking about buzzwords. The word that's being thrown around casually.
@bobdrooples
@bobdrooples 6 ай бұрын
All good, Chief, just brought back memories of classrooms and the ghosts or essay plans past.
@thaboye3536
@thaboye3536 6 ай бұрын
Thought max was the goat and he could win in any car?
@BruceKarrde
@BruceKarrde 6 ай бұрын
Unless they can fix their suspension issue, they will have to do damage control on any race where riding the curbs is mandatory. Examples: 1) Canada; 2) Hungary; 3) Austria; 4) Belgium; 5) The Netherlands. Every other track they need to win or at least get a podium. It might well be that Max wins with 10+ seconds on those tracks, while getting a p4-8 on the before mentioned. Sidenote: remember Max's back issues after the race in Imola. He wasn't exactly exhausted from the sim race - his back hurt from taking the curbs.
@obscuraapit
@obscuraapit 6 ай бұрын
Singapore was a setup issue more then anything & had Max been on pole he's have easily taken the win too IMO. And Checo is partially responsible for RBR's current situation bcz his Monaco crash & how every team got to see their floor surely gave away most of the advantage they had over other cars.
@Ponchov009
@Ponchov009 6 ай бұрын
Fan theories are so funny 😂
@obscuraapit
@obscuraapit 6 ай бұрын
@@Ponchov009 So are many F1 fan channels!
@FormulaProg
@FormulaProg 6 ай бұрын
They still have the best car, they're just down playing everything so their achievements look more impressive. Red bull and Christian in particular have always played the self pity underdog card.
@Maximilian_Ingrosso
@Maximilian_Ingrosso 6 ай бұрын
i just have to say this somewhere: Red Bull need to sign carlos sainz
@joshtheking1772
@joshtheking1772 6 ай бұрын
Their biggest weakness? They aren't acting like a team anymore.
@Vikii2024
@Vikii2024 6 ай бұрын
Its good i am happy . Atleast rest of season will be interesting .
@peterthomas5792
@peterthomas5792 6 ай бұрын
Don't you think the Red Bull curb-riding issue is caused by their extreme anti-squat/anti-dive?
@salim_abid_
@salim_abid_ 6 ай бұрын
Did you see what Horner said about RB not suffering the same issue and getting answers from them?? Do you think it's fair that Redbull and RB might be sharing info and therefore it's basically like having 2 teams working for 1 team?
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
I did and I mentioned it. Zak is gonna have a fit.
@salim_abid_
@salim_abid_ 6 ай бұрын
@@LawVS thanks, I always see a video topic then rush to comment before I watch the rest of the video lol. I do hope it’s investigated because it’s a big issue if you have twice the sim data, twice the amount of engineers/aero data etc as other teams
@salim_abid_
@salim_abid_ 6 ай бұрын
Also, To touch on Ferrari as you did towards the end of the video. The Sainz remaining professional is definitely the route to take, He’s rumoured to be going to Williams who aren’t exactly a winning team in this era of F1, And sure they had success in the mid 2010’s with engine dominant cars and theirs being supplied by Mercedes but soon fell down the order again as regs changed etc With the 2026 regs looking to be more engine focused perhaps Mercedes can be really competitive again as with Williams but what I believe is more likely to happen is for Sainz to look at rejoining Ferrari when Hamilton leaves (2027/2028 perhaps) A few years at a not so competitive team isn’t the worst thing for him. 2025 might be really difficult but if Williams can be a top 6 constructor in 2026 and beyond then Sainz will basically be repeating his stint at Mclaren (best of the rest, Show your talents and see what seats are available when Ham, Alo, Perez etc may retire, Even Hulkenburg is going Sauber/Audi and so if he retires after a year or 2, Audi can revisit the possibility of Sainz joining them.
@michaelrosbury2144
@michaelrosbury2144 6 ай бұрын
Nice haircut (not sarcasm)
@Omkar-lm5pe
@Omkar-lm5pe 6 ай бұрын
Do not give me hope
@michaelcobbin
@michaelcobbin 6 ай бұрын
When comes qualifying for the remainder of the 2024 season, it could be a battle between Max and Oscar.
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 6 ай бұрын
We jsut going to ignore Charles, the consensus best qualifier, and only other driver to get a pole so far
@michaelcobbin
@michaelcobbin 6 ай бұрын
@@dylanburston7453 No, but Ferrari needs to find more straight line speed. McLaren currently sits between Red Bull (straight line speed) and Ferrari (agility). Ferrari will do well at Singapore and Las Vegas.
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 6 ай бұрын
@@michaelcobbin Dont know where Ferrari sits on straight line speed get, as they brought the wrong wing to Imola (too much drag) and the other race was Monaco. Last year, Mclaren were good at high speed corners, and Ferrari low speed. They are now strong in both. I think now the difference is long vs short corners. R&D will play a big part. If they are anything like last year, Mclaren will bring a couple of massive upgrades that improve the pace alot. Ferrari brouht the one massive upgrade, but then did constant more frequent progress with big, but not massive upgrades. As long as neither of them do a Merc or a AM (put on ineffective parts/ put on loads of tiny disjointed upgrades that ruin the car), it will be close
@michaelcobbin
@michaelcobbin 6 ай бұрын
@@dylanburston7453 If the gap does really close between the top 3 teams, qualifying will be interesting for the rest of the season, as all three drivers are in with a chance to get pole.
@Jorge.Painkiller
@Jorge.Painkiller 6 ай бұрын
10:07 I would say it's more that he crumbles when drivers behind start catching up. 2021 and 2023 are the biggest offenders
@gunshipzeroone3546
@gunshipzeroone3546 6 ай бұрын
Come on max will still win this year's w.c by a good margin not as last year but still by 100 points plus red bull are too good one bad race and maybe two/ three coming up like Singapore red bull are still on another level compared to other teams.
@virileca
@virileca 6 ай бұрын
You deserve a proper desk and chair…
@blockhead3654
@blockhead3654 6 ай бұрын
The issue is that Perez keeps crashing, and everyone can see all the secrets.
@MrPassy4u
@MrPassy4u 6 ай бұрын
Could it be a few months ago, they would have a brainstorm sessions for 15m with newey wo could give some tips, problem solved?
@JC-lu4se
@JC-lu4se 6 ай бұрын
Don't worry. Normal programming will be resumed at the next 2 tracks at least. RedBull are still the team to beat.
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
Yeah they are still. Just that the other teams can give them a spook
@theempire6341
@theempire6341 6 ай бұрын
yapper is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Zoom15000
@Zoom15000 6 ай бұрын
If you keep bringing up a rumour then it will not go away, no. That doesn't make it anymore true or likely.
@richardmorrish
@richardmorrish 6 ай бұрын
Carlos Sainz Sr tested with Ferrari but decided not to go into F1
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
By his driving style definately an understeer driver. Watch ihis WRC onboards to see.
@Deezlrow
@Deezlrow 6 ай бұрын
Max wouldnt have started from the back of the grid
@aoife1122
@aoife1122 6 ай бұрын
The last three races? Those results can hardly serve as an indicator. Max in his Red Bull was "miles ahead" of the pack in Miami (people seem to forget that Lando was gifted the win by Bernd Maylaender's safety car "f*ck up"). We haven't seen the RB19 last year at "bumpy" Imola. And the "roulette" that is Monaco? I'd rather wait for "proper" race tracks before I predict some "seismic shifts". Let's wait and see how things pan out in Montreal and Barcelona.
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
Of course. That's understandable; but it's still less insurmountable for other teams than last year. Max is circumspect is the car's biggest flaw and the team need to fix it as the RB20 doesn't have the bulletproof asset the RB19 had.
@aoife1122
@aoife1122 6 ай бұрын
@@LawVS It is quite possible that the Red Bull design has "peaked" in '23 ... about time the others are catching up. But this season should be still very much "in the bag" for RBR. Things could get really spicy next year though.
@quigglyz
@quigglyz 6 ай бұрын
Lando was not gifted a win.
@Glen0cide
@Glen0cide 6 ай бұрын
Bots bots everywhere, so let’s all have a…….. entertaining F1 channel worthy of a comment. You know what? It’s my birthday this year, have a like too
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
Happy birthday!
@HN-ol7oz
@HN-ol7oz 6 ай бұрын
Don't be fooled into thinking they don't understand anything. Their experience and knowledge surpass anyone else's here. It's all about budget planning and media exposure positioning-knowing when to spend and when to save..$$$
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
They don't understand this particular thing. They'll figure it out though.
@andylem
@andylem 6 ай бұрын
Tappen is a coward
@413TomaccoRoad
@413TomaccoRoad 6 ай бұрын
So two tracks aren't favorable to Red Bull. Guess who wins the next 2? (Barring driver error or mechanical failure)
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
If they do, then fair enough...but needless to say, Max has given the team their orders and the other teams know their weakness isn't a one-off.
@413TomaccoRoad
@413TomaccoRoad 6 ай бұрын
@@LawVS Well, it seems to me, they need to have a set up option with some more mechanical grip for tighter tracks.
@darealsherlock8026
@darealsherlock8026 6 ай бұрын
KMag our saviour?
@fillusrahim-xy9ib
@fillusrahim-xy9ib 6 ай бұрын
Same as Seb , red bull only as good within 4 years 🤒
@martinavery3979
@martinavery3979 6 ай бұрын
Sorry Logan, August is coming
@jvhotblast2706
@jvhotblast2706 6 ай бұрын
Merc did win in 2021? Are you ok?
@yqzu
@yqzu 6 ай бұрын
nice haircut
@dwxr0
@dwxr0 6 ай бұрын
Ladder Smurfs 😂😂
@richardmorrish
@richardmorrish 6 ай бұрын
Max to Ferrari 2025
@visionproductionsnz7828
@visionproductionsnz7828 6 ай бұрын
As I said on one forum many months ago, when empires fall they fall quickly - in this case the chasers suddenly get a sniff of a win and the dominant lose the initiative. It look like Horner's thinking is preoccupied by politics and internal resignations and future signings - he's lost the plot in the Perez question. Opportunities v threats - Horner has an opportunity to bolster the team for 2025 which isn't always this easy. 1. Perez's contract is up this year, and 2. Sainz is a free agent and would probably accept a one plus one year contract. Perfect! No? Doubt that Sainz would be a large upgrade on Checo? In what season did Carlos fail? Competitive at TR, not as inferior in the Reno battle as the points showed, leadership at McLaren, far better at Ferrari than predicted. The only credible negative is the different favoured characteristics of car versus the Verstappen model. Sign him!
@413TomaccoRoad
@413TomaccoRoad 6 ай бұрын
What IS the big deal with Bernie Collins? I can barely understand anything she says.
@LawVS
@LawVS 6 ай бұрын
It's because she's a proper F1 geek and would rather talk to mechanics than celebrities.
@413TomaccoRoad
@413TomaccoRoad 6 ай бұрын
@@LawVS Her and Matt Gallagher were a strange pairing on Sky F1 a day or two after the race.
@alimantado373
@alimantado373 6 ай бұрын
WE need subtitles where is she from ? Ulster?
@torif1girl454
@torif1girl454 6 ай бұрын
@@LawVSshe is just marvellous I agree. I love races when they have her on. My kingdom for it to be every race! Love your work Mr Ladder man.
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