Red Dead Redemption 2 - John Visits Macfarlane's Ranch 4 Years Before RDR1

[@paleface171]

To think the next time John will be here it was because he "Went and did something stupid."

[@ultimatecontagion]

😂😂😂

[@memetemre9445]

to me next time was to murder all the ranchers😂

[@BryWithAWhy]

@@ultimatecontagion as a fellow Berry, I challenge your claim of being the "Original" good sir.

[@ultimatecontagion]

@@BryWithAWhy How are we gonna do that?

[@justanotherlaid-backdude5297]

@@ultimatecontagion eat as much berries as possible? Sorry that was cringe 😁

[@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods]

John after talking to a guy for a while: Also John right after: HeY TheRe

[@royaltimestwo]

@@MisterManiac are you serious?

[@jordanstewart6012]

That’s Arthur you dummy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sandeshvantveen]

@@jordanstewart6012 it's John in the video

[@royaltimestwo]

@@jordanstewart6012 that's John.

[@omarleos6952]

@@jordanstewart6012 it’s John dummy

[@DaPeanutButter]

The one dislike is Bonnie McFarlane who figured out that you're trespassing on her property

[@comfortindeath1631]

Just a bit north of Saint Denis, you’ll find a dying guy by a boat, and he has a letter written to Bonnie McFarlane. I only discovered it on my second play through. It was quite the find!

[@mewmew1145]

Where exactly on the map? Like what’s around it?

[@treetop1183]

@@mewmew1145 i found it too. Its just south of the light house at the Van Horn trading post. Look for a small beach

[@Ztanix_702]

@@mewmew1145 here is a link image gamespot1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/1575/15759911/3465463-bonnie_2.png

[@nathanpacheco6191]

It spawns in multiple places along the shore

[@fullestauto8912]

Mine was not too far away from the traintracks south of valentine near the pier where you meet that fisherman fella

[@Omnio0]

John: hi im looking for Mrs. Mcfarlane Rancher: youre about 4 years too early

[@volcano1865]

Lol

[@zuychan]

Mrs mcfarlene is actually down that block over there performing surgery

[@b_is_alive]

Red Dead Infinity War

[@bingchilling4331]

*branches out different timelines* ‘In this timeline, Bonnie lives in this house all her life, which means she’s around 4 years before’

[@W0LFB3AT5]

“Call me Bonnie, you fool...call me...Bonnie.”

[@HugoSSLima]

"So, Ms. Mcfarlane."

[@HugoSSLima]

@toto lLol, i miss John's sarcasm in RDR2.

[@jooenu4285]

So that’s why Drew says that he buried more of his children than he raised.

[@leviticuscornwall8991]

Yeah you can see me their graves at coots chapel in both games

[@yourman1200]

It's cause I drive by every now and then and shoot everyone

[@RobertBelko]

Cool, I haven't seen this before.

[@Assassino275]

sTiLl FiNdInG nEw ThInGs AfTeR tWo YeArS hur durrr

[@RobertBelko]

@@Assassino275 shoar, boah

[@Assassino275]

@@yes9421 maybe

[@guilhermezalla2032]

@@Assassino275 yep, I still

[@byoung8918]

Maybe they added this in later update

[@gage5484]

The New Austin map in the epilogue of RDR2 is way too different to have been only 4 years before RDR1. It's obvious to me the game devs built it with the idea in mind that it would be how it looked 12 years before RDR1, but at some point it changed to only be accessible in the epilogue.

[@theshlauf]

Yeah, probably also why half the challenges can only be completed in the epilogue even though the promotional art showed Arthur in The Legend of the East outfit.

[@jonathanmercado963]

Yeah. Like in 4 years tumbleweed shouldnt be that rotten, The farmhouse in the McFarlane Ranch, Theifves Landing being a shitty town, Blackwater. The bridge to Mexico

[@ethanschenck9714]

Even for 1899 it seems underdeveloped. Bonnie said that the big barn on the ranch was built when she was a little girl, and she was 15 by 1899.

[@cobussy]

It almost definitely was, Arthur has voice lines that are exclusive to it and has his own versions of POI drawings. There were probably many different outcomes to RDR2 in its development, maybe Arthur was never meant to die and we’d play as him after the main story as we do with John. But the most logical explanation is that Arthur was supposed to be able to travel to new Austin originally, same as he was supposed to be able to as guarma. But the devs most likely didn’t have enough time to remake the entirety of new Austin for John vs. Arthur’s story.

[@cptfreeman8966]

@@jonathanmercado963 I can see a town rotting away after being abandoned for 4 years. 4 years of being exposed to the elements with no one to maintain or care for it. Same with thieves landing and black water 4 years is a long time when it comes to human production

[@pistolerojoe9293]

I remember pulling a wagon to the side of the window and jumping through to get in the house along with skyrocketing myself into the sky with the jailhouse. Good times lol.

[@sloth0708]

Launching to heaven using the jailhouse shitter is all I remember of RDR1 at this point lol

[@jonathanhill7295]

@@sloth0708 same lol

[@TheBoomhahaha]

"Aight. I'll be back in 4 years"

[@noahgalloway5214]

2 years and 3 100% playthroughs later and I STILL am seeing new things. This game never ceases to amaze me.

[@skxlter5747]

breaks continuity cuz john says he never visited new austin till 1911 this is why we need a red dead 1 remake badly

[@mr.mcglizzy2257]

No. Because everything that happens once you complete the Epilogue isn’t Canon. So Rdr1 goes off of the fact that he has his ranch and that’s where he stays. None of the gang have ever technically been to New Austin, but that’s where they were going before Blackwater

[@michaelreyes6649]

@@mr.mcglizzy2257 I think they have said they have been there and doesn’t John and Sadie go to new Austin

[@Supertron1]

@@mr.mcglizzy2257 John visits New Austin with Sadie during the epilogue, in the mission where they capture a bounty in Pike's Basin. If the player visits New Austin on their own during the epilogue and they encounter the Del Lobos and Esteban Cortez, John will tell Sadie about it during the mission where they capture Ramon Cortez. So John visiting New Austin in RDR 2 definitely is supposed to be canon to some extent.

[@Supertron1]

@Guy Panzerboss I think that back when RDR 1 was made, the writers' intention was that John had never been to New Austin prior to the beginning of the game. He was basically a stranger in a strange land. The thing is, he never actually said he had never been to New Austin. He said he didn't know New Austin, which is technically true whether he just passed through once with Sadie or came back a few times on his own. Plus it had been four years, so he may not have had a clear recollection of his last "visit". Since none of the side content has any connection to the main story in either game, the argument could probably be made that none of it is truly canon, including John bumping into Pearson, Tilly, Mary-Beth, and Rains Fall. The only side character who appeared in a story mission was the nun. In any case, RDR 2 does have a number of minor retcons that don't quite match up with RDR 1. For example, although it was never stated in RDR 1 how old Jack was when John left the gang, it's likely he was supposed to be a lot older than four years old since he claimed to remember Dutch and the others well enough to recall stories they told him of John's misdeeds from before he was born. In the RDR 2 epilogue, Jack barely remembered Arthur and Hosea.

[@skxlter5747]

@@theincrediblehulk5797 no they didnt bro, in the lore the van der linde gang came to west elizabeth from the state of north elizabeth through the mountains which is where they met sean maguire from trying to rob dutch n hosea in north elizabeth. they settled outside of blackwater in 1899 and have never ever been to new austin before but they have been north of new austin.

[@gutsgonenuts1399]

I mean they almost created the whole rdr1 map, rdr1 remake is imminent

[@808Plisskin]

Imagine if they packaged them both into one whole game. I would love to go back to Arthurs grave as Jack Marston

[@leandrodiaz5433]

if they haven't remaked vice city or san andreas, they surely won't remake rdr anytime soon

[@mr.jameson218]

@@leandrodiaz5433 That's like, completely different. Lol

[@leandrodiaz5433]

@@mr.jameson218 is it? rdr holds up really well, it doesn't really need a remake right now. you can't say the same about san andreas or vice city, at least in terms of graphics

[@mr.jameson218]

@@leandrodiaz5433 I don't think that's why people want the remake. People want it because rdr and rdr2 don't line up perfectly. Plus, a tad bit more story could be added or more references to past characters. It could really be a different game.

[@IgnoringSilver95]

Holy FUCK I want a red dead remake that ties into red dead 2. Would pay $100 for it

[@fredster594]

It's not gonna happen any time soon unfortunetely.

[@IgnoringSilver95]

@@fredster594 just blows my mind they remade half of RD1s map.

[@saulgoodman612]

@@IgnoringSilver95 Same, I wonder what Rockstar's original plan for it was? They got pretty far in remaking mexico too

[@RandalfElVikingo]

Bethesda: Did someone said "money"?

[@DJ_Thanos]

West Elizabeth and New Austin (including Mexico) are reused RDR1 assets, but they are touched up to hide the fact. You can notice the geometry is less detailed compared to the main part of the map.

[@Majinjef2099]

It's the best game of all time and space

[@MinoTunes]

FACTS

[@arjunchandrasekaran6883]

Any game made by rockstar is the best

[@GabrielVittorio]

agreed

[@spikey288]

After the witcher 3 of course ;)

[@lonleybeer]

That's cool i didn't get to talk to anyone when i passed through here

[@TheLusaso]

John talked his way out of that like a smooth criminal

[@salmonellq2981]

you eat babies! *proceeds to Hee Hee the fuck outta there*

[@coltgun876]

One of the biggest paradox errors in both games is that Bonnie said that Drew built the barn on MacFarlane's Ranch when she was a "little girl" however the barn doesn't exist in RDR2 and we get to meet Bonnie in RDO where she is 15 or 16 which is not a "little girl" age. The barn should have been shown in the 2nd game.

[@Muzzly1234]

Though it is such a massive game, it is the little moments such as these which help to make it a true masterpiece.

[@MassiveMaleMonkey]

Stranger: GET OFF MY LAND! John: oh im just looking 'round Stranger: Oh, in that case here's my entire life story.

[@IvanLubis-SatkerDitBPB]

RDR2 NPCs are really something. I've always stopped whenever white blip appears in my mini map to check what's this NPC is up to.

[@TheSuperPsychoKiller]

This dialogue makes sense as we see Bonnie coming home in the first game.

[@zul6227]

You can actually find bonnie in that ranch, but she just act as normal npc

[@actualtoaster34]

that's in online cuz online takes place before story mode

[@smashdatnail]

We can play rdr2 for 5+ years and still finding new things in this game..this show how much effort rockstar made by simply putting small details in the game

[@jonahbarber8596]

God that banjo in the background is so good

[@Dank-Boix]

It's crazy there is still interactions I haven't seen in this game

[@xXLoneLoboXx]

Arthur has dialogue for being in New Austin cause at some point in development he was allowed in NA, I wonder if you play as Arthur using a mod or something if it would be him going through this conversation? That would make sense for Arthur to go through this interaction since it would fit the continuity of John saying he’s never been to NA before. (Rockstar needs to update single player already, either give us a few chapters before Colter so we can see what happened before and be allowed to explore the area as Arthur, or add an option for us to pay our 5k bounty in New Austin just so we can go there as Arthur to finish quests and whatnot before he dies.)

[@LifeOfMateusz]

Or the Van Der Linde gang discovers Armadillo and Dutch uses the citizens for his own selfish means and Arthur contracts cholera instead of tuberculosis.

[@westernfan1229]

@@LifeOfMateusz the cholera outbreak didn't start until 1907. In 1899, the outbreak for armadillo is scarlet fever.

[@LifeOfMateusz]

@@westernfan1229 oh yeah I forgot lol

[@lukeskinwalker922]

I think R* really went out of their way to hurt the lore. Hate me for my views if you want but I think it’s dumb they allowed this and I think saying this gameplay is non-canon is a bad way of ignoring a genuine flaw in the script that I think should’ve been noticed because to me it’s definitely easy to notice this flaw as John had people guiding him around NA.

[@sartbimpson4519]

Just started playing the first RDR. Great game.

[@Canadoslovakia1]

Whoever deleted the barn, half of Thieves' Landing and made Armadillo a plague town was an idiot.

[@benjinlama8108]

Maybe that is what things used to be like 4 years before RDR1

[@daddykarlmarx6183]

Rdr2 takes place before rdr1, of course certain buildings wouldn't be built yet, and if the McFarlan family just got damn near completely wiped out from disease, it's not a shock that the nearby town of armadillo would have similar issues

[@brsvideos8143]

At the hideout that's right next to the beach, I think somewhere along the stretch of beach you have a chance to encounter a dead man with a note. It's a note to Bonnie MacFarlane, something about getting her to fall in love with him. He died doing soemthing stupid to impress her.

[@joe-ux2kl]

Yep. It's on a beach somewhere and you can find a body on the ground. Loot him (only to find that he's still alive for that moment), and get a letter.

[@princesnowblood6263]

It can be found in many different places

[@mullemeck5015]

Just coming back on another solid gold recommendation from yt featuring hidden dialouges and stuff everyday from rdr2👍🏻

[@dingleberryliespewer3177]

lookin damn stylish

[@crystalwater505]

Canon wise this never happens, unless John lies to people in New Austin saying he never was there when he talks to people in RDR 1.

[@thatthinginyoureye]

That's why I wish New Austin wasn't locked for Arthur

[@lukeskinwalker922]

Can we stop making this old excuse? He would’ve never been allowed to visit if this was truly non-canon.

[@crystalwater505]

@@lukeskinwalker922Sure he'd be allowed to visit. Developers did it for gameplay reasons and it's cool to see what New Austin was like in 1899. I know it says 1907 but it uses the 1899 map. Devs put a lot of non canon things in games as fan service all of the time.

[@ash2617]

in the northeast of the map above annesburg, along the riverbank there is a letter to bonnie as well

[@backlandjbreaker24]

I found it in south of New Hanover

[@rangerwh5508]

That explains why Bonnie is in online (1898) and not in the epilogue (1907). Sometime between the two her brothers all got sick and died. Maybe from the cholera in Armadillo?

[@twinswords79dualblade84]

Ya know, making Bonnie MacFarland not appear in RDR2 was actually very smart, considering John doesn’t meet her till RDR1, so it would’ve created some kind of time paradox and Arthur not meeting her makes sense too, because then she’d be aware on what the Van Der Linda Gang was and she’d have most of the details already in memory if she asked Arthur what he does. Although it is a shame that Arthur never met her, bet they would’ve been quite a pair.

[@black1629]

she is 15 years old lol, and arthur is over 30 years old

[@fartass8299]

Arthur and Bonnie are 21 years apart 💀

[@twinswords79dualblade84]

@@fartass8299 I didn’t mean it in a love relationship, Jesus. I meant like as a team in general, no love involved.

[@fartass8299]

@@twinswords79dualblade84 i didn't mean it like that neither, I was talking to black1629 because I didn't even realise it until he mentioned it

[@marstonzi]

Johnny boy gonna have some serious Deja Vu soon

[@eksquisite]

i legit just walked by and slit everyone's throat stealthly at night

[@woodstocknun]

family is buried at the cemetary south east of armadillo

[@olmogiovannini822]

What's John wearing here? It's a wonderful outfit!

[@westernfan1229]

Drifter hat, classic frock coat, frontier vest, and the tornado boots. You need to finish the uncle request in the epilogue to get these.

[@olmogiovannini822]

@@westernfan1229 Wow, that was quick! Thank you very much!

[@jackmarston6762]

@@westernfan1229 the One-Shot Kid outfit. No use having it around since old Uncle "retired" from the life, so why not give it to John as a reward.

[@nunufyurbiznis7671]

I read yours and Arthur Morgans comment in John and Arthur’s voice

[@Isaac_the_customizer]

Awesome video my friend! 👍🏻👍🏻😎😁

[@Concise_Parakeet]

Mr. Thomas Downes, you owe me money!

[@Ahmed-vn6fd]

Man even after playing this game twice and 400+ hrs this game still surprises me. This though makes a lot of sense as you don't get to see the MacFarlanes in RDR2

[@CLADZEJAYKAY]

You can see Bonnie in RDO

[@Ahmed-vn6fd]

@@CLADZEJAYKAY wait really?

[@willwebb9228]

Game has been out how long? Yet I still find new things on it, crazy.

[@frailewe113]

Noice

[@Chicken_Wing91]

Wish you could deliver that letter to bonnie they missed an opportunity for her to have a cameo

[@DocteurHap]

You can actually find Macfarlanes tombstones in Armadillo's cemetary

[@johnkenneth3602]

Hey, can you please tell me what clothes your John is wearing? Please🙏

[@westernfan1229]

Drifter hat, classic frock coat, frontier vest, and the tornado boots. You need to finish the uncle request in the epilogue to get these.

[@johnkenneth3602]

@@westernfan1229 thank you very much for taking the time to respond,I truly appreciate it. Oh and Merry Christmas!!

[@benneron8403]

Weird seeing John in places he's not suppose to stumble upon til rdr1.

[@lukeskinwalker922]

There’s no reason for John to be in New Austin really. Arthur being allowed in makes a lot more sense.

[@MeTaLCivil]

they should've got bonnie mcfarlane to voice bonnie mcfarlane

[@professionalgamer6522]

Another thing I've found out about this game.

[@pascalg16]

Hey partner, nice outfit. It's my favourite for John.

[@arthurmorgan9453]

What coat is that your wearing?

[@westernfan1229]

Drifter hat, classic frock coat, frontier vest, and the tornado boots. You need to finish the uncle request in the epilogue to get these.

[@arthurmorgan9453]

Ok cool thx

[@salomaorenato2394]

Nice detail!

[@AJ8871]

I just wanna know what outfit that is

[@samuelmcandrew2125]

what outfit is that? It suits John well

[@westernfan1229]

Drifter hat, classic frock coat, frontier vest, and the tornado boots. You need to finish the uncle request in the epilogue to get these.

[@mikedawolf95]

Funny how they “left” because of the outbreak

[@ZZ_Tops_007]

I wonder who's house is that

[@59tothegrave4eva]

Its the Mcfarlanes house on their ranch

[@ZZ_Tops_007]

@@59tothegrave4eva Obviously I played and beat RED DEAD 1

[@Yalah_]

when you see your last name in the video

[@charmicarmicat2981]

So I’m guessing this is Amos?

[@redvice6210]

No, but he does have a cameo in the online cutscene!

[@heem8814]

who weres that jacket in the desert

[@Vipers_Pit]

John marston on Arthur Morgan, channel. I’m so confused.

[@FreeAimDog]

0:44 i would not say that, the guy could have mistaken that as *they are lucky they got away i was going to rob them*

[@V4vendettA_A]

This is where John Marston starts in RDR1 after he gets rescued by the lady (Bonnie)that owns this ranch she offers him a job to pay for the doctors bill's $15.00 💵 God damn Bill Williamson shot John. after a failed attempt to talk him out of the lifestyle he was living. anyway. good video. thanks

[@Kieran_Duffy]

How about if ARTHUR visits Macfarlane’s ranch.

[@ahmedlucky4084]

Yeah my john marston takes bullets and speaking i got the video of it

[@micahbell4751]

Hello black lung,did you miss me?

[@DinaricUbermensch]

nobody asked

[@micahbell4751]

@@DinaricUbermensch are you blind ?you idiot

[@skoobert]

Where is this at? 🤔

[@pinesy9452]

What's the outfit?

[@athinafe1402]

The porch is so empty...

[@kaseonline1091]

I'm wearing the exact same outfit as you

[@Pibodabo]

I once had this during a shootout 😂

[@matemondovics2756]

But where the hell is the barn? I thought it was supposed to be there since Bonnie was a little girl

[@anttitheinternetguy3213]

That gotta be amos, right?

[@OneofInfinity.]

Me hoping I had missed something during my playthroughs.... 😌

[@johnmarstonplays7090]

Umm where did you get this footage of me

[@margaretthatcherironlady1f400]

haha you are very funny

[@Kinlos]

Nice

[@joondagoon6774]

Lmao I shot this place up I like running in ppls houses this game is phenomenal

[@wayfastwhitey2699]

Still p-o’d that the horseshoes mini game wasnt in Rdr2

[@kiachaelchild]

What about Liars Dice? I was good at that game

[@elfarlaur]

@@kiachaelchild I loved that game

[@kiachaelchild]

@@elfarlaur i thought no one liked it, its really fun

[@joseescobar2076]

P

[@reek3654]

I hate this location in this game because of the fact that the barn isn't there even Bonnie it was built when she was a little girl. So therefore at this point it should be there. Ik people probably complain about it a lot but it annoys me so bad I have to comment thism

[@Ic3h0rnEt14]

Which hat is John wearing here?

[@westernfan1229]

Drifter hat

[@deusaxolot1364]

BRASIL é uma pena q ñ entendo inglês então logo ñ entendi o video mas dei like

[@noidea4223]

Well then it kinda breaks RDR1 because John said he had never been there before.

[@KicktheSky34]

If memory serves, I think John only said that his gang never made it this far west- he didn't specify that he hadn't been there on his own. Besides which, by then John definitely hadn't been in the area for 3 or 4 years so he probably wasn't assuming he still knew the lay of the land- which is prudent, none of the same gangs were active in the area, none of the lawman he'd encountered previously were still around, and every settlement had changed significantly. Plus all the gilla monsters and pronghorns had died of cholera, apparently.

[@jqyhlmnp]

Lore isn’t ready yet, get out!

[@lucwijngaard8413]

Cool

[@whitewolf7835]

I really want RDR1 Remake But R* don't care 😑

[@StreetKnightZ]

2 years later... Oh boy I got some news to you!

[@andreo.7633]

See theres a new batch of rdr2 fans. So many posts again. After 2 years lol

[@recomn]

nice outfit

[@JoitaDhar]

Hey Arthur Morgan! Is there a PS4 in Heaven? If so, I’ll come there. Please let me know.

[@Bilal-jg1qs]

Sad to see red dead is dead

[@trollege9618]

Better red than dead

[@ukilledmydog]

@@trollege9618 what about Red Harlow

[@trollege9618]

@@ukilledmydog idk

[@BananaGuy951]

Red dead redemption has no remake Red dead redemption needs no remake All you folk saying so sound like children who started off playing red dead redemption 2 and suddenly want a remake of the original to fit your perspective of things nonsense The only reason their ever was even a " red dead redemption 2" is because of the anticipation for it, it says it even in the title "red dead redemption 2"??? Such a lame name for a sequel of a legendary title, but noo people wanted a sequel so badly so they made this for you little girls, so dont go saying garbage nonsense about continuation if you cant even understand that certain encounters such as this are non canon

[@tahayousuf]

wow nice lmao

[@billwilliamson8780]

Nicccceeeeeee