"Red Famine: Stalin's War on Ukraine" by Anne Applebaum

Anne Applebaum talking to Edward Lucas about her new book, "Red Famine: Stalin's War on Ukraine" at the event organised by the EBRD and the Ukrainian Institute London at EBRD headquarters in London 28 September, 2017.

[@philmoore71]

I read this book last week. Brilliantly written about a tragic story

[@pugnatorr]

read this one and you will find the truth douglas tottle fraud famine and fascism

[@truth5705]

Did you know Anne Applebaum is from the same ethnic/religous background as Lazar Gaganovich, Lazar starved 4 million Ukrainians to death in the 1933, and that whole movement, the Bolsheviks was funded by New York banker Jacob Schiff, from the same ethnic/relgious background she has done many talks on the Holodomor and convientelly left out this fact The President of Ukraine right now is from the same ethnic religous backgound same as the Rothchilds Isiah Davidvichberg invented the gas van in the 20s, he's from the same ethnic/relgious background Filipp Goloshchyokin wiped out 42% of the population of Khazakstan, also from the same ethnic/relgious background Same as Gendik Yagoda who ran the Gulag slave labour system, ] Same as Yakov Yurovsky who shot the Tsar and his kids Same as Naftaly Frenkel who was in the Cheka police read about their attrocities on wiki, the same ethnic/relgious background that owns all big news outlets in the US accept for Fox new which is owned by Rupert Murdoch but it's completley ran by the same people,

[@jezalb2710]

@@truth5705 what of it?

[@_Epsilon_]

She is full of BS neocon. She is falsifier of history.

[@JeffTaylorRomania]

reading the book now..I'll come and listen to this entirely when I finish

[@tinamann3400]

Thank you for your work

[@enough_of_propaganda]

Thank you very much to Anne Applebaum for her research and books. As Russian and Canadian with Ukrainian roots I did an extensive research of the Putin' aggression in Ukraine (2014-2022). Also I personally know witnesses of Stalin's genocide of Ukrainians. I confirming that Anne Applebaum is right about everything she said in this video. I am deeply grateful to Ms. Applebaum for her work.

[@corvanhoute8072]

Do you mean those fake nazis from Ukraine. Advice: read the 1935 laws.

[@olgawest1830]

Thank you for speaking on this tragic time for Ukraine and the entire part of that continent.

[@michaeld9682]

Ukraine has been corrupt to the core for years

[@jezalb2710]

@@michaeld9682 and?

[@sbeckmesser]

Why all the time pressure, the insistence of Lucas to move things along? He cut off Applebaum at points -- quite rude. Certainly for a presentation destined for KZbin, duration is of secondary consideration compared to getting all that the author can give. If running time were of such importance, there's no reason to have had all those introductory remarks.

[@richrockefeller3331]

Well she is a marxist. They have a tendency to self abuse.

[@garethifan1034]

What happened to the audio on this presentation..I can hardly hear the discussion with volume on max?

[@AntonDoesMusic]

38:54 Was anyone else just REALLY irked by this guy throughout the whole thing? This moment really pissed me off. Let her talk!

[@SC-nx4yw]

A very interesting talk overall although I'm uncomfortable with the lack of response to the question as to why American academics are so reluctant to acknowledge the enormous suffering inflicted by left-wing authoritarian regimes like Stalin's. The obvious answer is that they are themselves left-wing, they're at least socialists, if not full-blown Marxists in many cases. It is therefore easy for them to decry the evils of right-wing authoritarians but the enormous violence perpetrated by the left, not so much. I cringe to see young people wearing "Che" shirts. It's clear their professors do not point out that the hard left is if anything more violent than the hard right, perhaps because of it's messianic fervor.

[@7_red24]

How National Socialism and Italian fascism came to be considered by many as "right wing" I don't understand. They are collectivist and authoritarian, and thus identical to (Marxian) socialism, but for a veneer and mere pretense of being capitalist (at least in the case of Nazism---I am not familiar enough with fascism to know, but here presume the two to be practically identical).

[@richrockefeller3331]

It is even funnier when you see a black person wear a Che t-shirt. He hated blacks - a genuine racist; As opposed to a micky mouse racist in today's terms.

[@richrockefeller3331]

7Red - you are quite correct. Essentially far right is no government at all. Far left is all-encompassing government. Socialism is like coronavirus. The youth are unaffected by it, but for the elderly it is devastating. Everyone is in lockdown.

[@mariannesmith7175]

specific examples?

[@truth5705]

Did you know Anne Applebaum is from the same ethnic/religous background as Lazar Gaganovich, Lazar starved 4 million Ukrainians to death in the 1933, and that whole movement, the Bolsheviks was funded by New York banker Jacob Schiff, from the same ethnic/relgious background she has done many talks on the Holodomor and convientelly left out this fact The President of Ukraine right now is from the same ethnic religous backgound same as the Rothchilds Isiah Davidvichberg invented the gas van in the 20s, he's from the same ethnic/relgious background Filipp Goloshchyokin wiped out 42% of the population of Khazakstan, also from the same ethnic/relgious background Same as Gendik Yagoda who ran the Gulag slave labour system, ] Same as Yakov Yurovsky who shot the Tsar and his kids Same as Naftaly Frenkel who was in the Cheka police read about their attrocities on wiki, the same ethnic/relgious background that owns all big news outlets in the US accept for Fox new which is owned by Rupert Murdoch but it's completley ran by the same people,

[@TheNightOcelot]

Now hopefully whole world understands that Russia's hatred toward Ukraine is an old thing

[@maximpopov8651]

She's a genius 💜 Peace Love and Democracy ☮️

[@_Epsilon_]

Genius? She is a full of BS neocon and a falsifier of history.

[@7_red24]

Haven't read the book, would love to---the practical outworkings of Soviet ideology and policy are important to understand, imho. Photographs of this famine show that markets in human body parts sprang up, due to the severity of the dearth. May God help us to keep alight the flame of innocence, trust, and magnanimity, which so many today (and yesterday) mistakenly stoke in their hearts in the name of socialism, and turn these good minds and hearts to the moral and rational truth of private property, natural rights, and free market economics.

[@danieltemelkovski9828]

I'm afraid I don't believe their hearts are nearly as pure as you think. The more casual supporters, who simply mouth support for socialist ideals, may fairly be considered innocent. But the more intensely someone advocates or agitates for socialism, the more inclined I am to consider them utterly vile and to view them as an implacable foe to whom I must remain firmly unwilling to yield an inch lest they take me for all I have.

[@truth5705]

Did you know Anne Applebaum is from the same ethnic/religous background as Lazar Gaganovich, Lazar starved 4 million Ukrainians to death in the 1933, and that whole movement, the Bolsheviks was funded by New York banker Jacob Schiff, from the same ethnic/relgious background she has done many talks on the Holodomor and convientelly left out this fact The President of Ukraine right now is from the same ethnic religous backgound same as the Rothchilds Isiah Davidvichberg invented the gas van in the 20s, he's from the same ethnic/relgious background Filipp Goloshchyokin wiped out 42% of the population of Khazakstan, also from the same ethnic/relgious background Same as Gendik Yagoda who ran the Gulag slave labour system, ] Same as Yakov Yurovsky who shot the Tsar and his kids Same as Naftaly Frenkel who was in the Cheka police read about their attrocities on wiki, the same ethnic/relgious background that owns all big news outlets in the US accept for Fox new which is owned by Rupert Murdoch but it's completley ran by the same people,

[@richrockefeller3331]

Words alone cannot explain Ukraine. It is an organised conglomerate of contradiction, confusion and anarchy. The cobblestone streets and historical ambience of Lviv is a must see for any young man in which to find himself. The famine was due to Stalin tipping truckloads of the annual harvest into the Dneiper River. He did this to bring Ukraine into the USSR, who had vehemently opposed it.

[@_Epsilon_]

"bring Ukraine into the USSR"? WTF does this even mean? Ukraine was in USSR for a decade just like everyone else. Also Western Ukraine wasn't even part of the USSR at the time but it is them who invented "holodomor" false term even though they don't really consider the rest of the citizens of Ukraine as real Ukrainians.

[@joececcacci4879]

People follow along by either having the will or fear to their survival.Stalin orchestrated his band in perfect symphony with the instruments accessible "killers and yessiree civilians living in fear". Gulag-Joseph Stalin program--his way to progress--and low and behold the state did. "Anne--who what, where, when and why. Deep Anne. What a jungle we come from and what a jungle we live in.

[@jezalb2710]

Brawo Anne

[@brittasdanceqi]

Great interview from Anne. The moderator was awful 🤦

[@TheNightOcelot]

Incredible woman, thank you very much!

[@_Epsilon_]

You meant incredible neocon lier and history falsifier.

[@xrystalskyes2838]

31:37 summary point 👌🏻

[@myaccount8574]

I am a fan of Anne Applebaum's work, but this man on stage slurping his drink loudly into his mic, banging his cup into the water bottle, fidgeting, touching his face and generally looking bored is so distracting, I can no longer watch.

[@rocketman1090]

"More Than a Grain of Truth" by Colley an excellent book on Gareth Jones including excerpts from his personal journal of witnessing the Holomodor.

[@johnsnowkumar359]

She is a genius who cares about hungrier people. The US should have sent 100 million tons of food to all countries of Africa and Asia that time, along with Ukraine borderlands.

[@johoward5816]

EBRD ( European Bank for Reconstruction and Development )

[@Adam.G.Trapper]

После 2-й Мировой войны 10-мильонная Беларусь не досчиталась около 3-х мильонов своих жителей, однако околь 2-х миллионов были убиты еще до войны органами коммунистического НКВД. В Беларуси физически уничтожили 70 процентов всех белорусских писателей, убили ученых и художников. (Труппа Третьего Белорусского Государственного театра Владислава Голубка была арестована в полном составе. Почти все были расстреляны.) Убивали по национальному признаку. Ради этого был придуман ярлык "нацдем" (это значит -- национальный демократ, хотя такой партии не существовало). Этот ярлык приклеивали ко всем белорусам, которых сталинисты планировали уничтожить. В недрах НКВД была придумана несуществующая антикоммунистическая организация СВБ ("союз освобождения Беларуси"). Под придуманный фантом энкавэдисты проводили аресты, вели воображаемое следствие, допрашивали, пытали, судили, потом ссылали в Россию и расстреливали невинных людей. После Рижского сговора в 1921 году Беларусь разделили между Польшей и Россией. Границу раздела провели недалеко от Менска. Существовал тайный приказ НКВД уничтожать всё белорусское население вдоль границы. Российские аккупанты хотели сделать здесь безлюдную зону. Уничтожение осуществляли пограничные войска. Довереным лицам выдавали винтовку и лопату. Когда такой солдат-пограничник встречал в безлюдном месте (на дороге, в поле, в лесу) одинокого белоруса или белоруску, или ребенка, он стрелял человека, тут же лопатой выкапывал яму и засыпал труп. Такова была инструкция. Люди в деревнях не так боялись "человека с ружьём", как солдата с лопатой. (Эти факты опубликованы в белорусской печати в начале 90-х годов.) В 30-х годах на 95-99 процентов (практически полностью) была уничтожена (сослана и расстреляна) белорусская коммунистическо-партийная и советская администрация. Уничтожали даже директорат и хозяйственных руководителей. На должности убитых администраторов и коммунистических начальников-белорусов присылали русских из России. Русские (так называемые "выдвиженцы") приезжали в Беларусь, занимали освобожденные должности, получали льготы, имущество, квартиры и первое, что они делали -- закрывали белорусские школы, переводили их на русский язык, чтобы их дети могли учиться, не обременяя себя изучением, как они говорили, "никому ненужного" белорусского языка. Таким образом оккупанты создавали в Беларуси "русскоязычное население". Этноцид, лингвацид, мнемацид и геноцид проводзились большевиками одновременно. Уничтожение белорусов российским НКВД продолжалось и во времена немецкой аккупации. В июне 1941 года в первые дни войны коммунисты расстреляли в тюрьмах и на этапах тысячи заключенных. Только в Брестской крепости, где была страшная тюрьма НКВД, всех арестованных ликвидировать не успели, часть из них разбежалась. Тем временем большая группа надзирателей и функционеров НКВД была заблокирована в крепости немцами. Они сидели там около месяца, пока не вымерли. Лет через 20 после войны коммунисты придумали легенду о "героической обороне" Брестской крепости. Обращает на себя внимание тот факт, что широкое советское партизанское движение было организовано только в Беларуси и частично -- на этнических белорусских землях, которые были в составе России (Смоленщина, Брянщина). В оккупированой России партизанского движения не было. Почему? Да потому, что продолжал действовать план уничтожения белорусской нации. Москва, используя органы НКВД, втянула массы гражданского белорусского населения в войну против немцев, и этим подставила белорусов под немецкий удар. Необходимое дело борьбы исходило из коварного замысла и осуществлялось подлыми методами. (Сталин хотел получить двойную выгоду.) Энкавэдисты специально около белорусской деревени убивали немца или делали другую провокацию, чтобы вызвать карательную операцию гитлеровцев (которые обычно сжигали всю деревню, чаще всего -- вместе с людьми). Таким образом, кстати, в результате специальной провокации советских партизан была сожжена и известная Хатынь, которую коммунисты потом в 70-х годах разрекламировали на весь мир как типичную жертву фашистского зверства. В результате такой коммуно-фашистской совместной "работы" в Беларуси сожгли более 9 тысяч деревень. Поэтому к концу войны, в результате специальной операции НКВД, многие белорусские командиры были посланы на смерть, отстранены от командования, убиты и репрессированы. Их места занимали русские, присланные из Мосвы, и верные энкавэдисты. Летом 1944 года, когда "красная армия" заняла Беларусь, русские провели мобилизацию в армию на белорусской территории. Десятки тысяч молодых белорусских мужчин, почти без подготовки, бросили на передовую линию фронта. Русские командиры поднимали их в ненужные атаки под огонь немецких пулеметов, не дав даже оружия в руки, или с винтовками, но без патронов. Они гибли тысячами, как трава под косой. А те, что бежали назад, попадали под пули энкавэдистских "заградотрядов". Впрочем, заградотряды стреляли и в спину. Так продолжалось уничтожение белорусов на войне, руками немцев и русских одновременно. Как говорили коммунисты, "в борьбе за советскую родину". В 40-х годах русские вывезли в Сибирь и там замучили всех лесников и так называемых "кулаков" из Западной Беларуси. Вывозили вагонами, по разнорядках. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJ7bhayvh9ulsKs Відэа распавядае пра злачынства ў вёсцы Дражна - 25 мірных жыхароў, былі забітыя ў 1943 г. партызанамі трох савецкіх і аднаго габрэйскага атрадаў.

[@katylake212]

I've read several books on the Ukrainian famine that go back to the 80s. If anyone has read this book, can you say what Applebaum adds to the discussion? I'm listening to this, but I'm not hearing much new.

[@pugnatorr]

douglas tottle fraud famine and fascism

[@valmam6358]

Very much arrogant and rude moderator... With everything this woman has to say there was even no need for him to talk... Nevertheless he interrupted her so many times that is quite disturbing to watch.

[@eugenlitwin5887]

Anne Applebaum, is so so massive great historian , new i must buy all her books . thank you guys for uploading this fundamental presentation....

[@sirlordhenrymortimer6620]

Eugen Litvin hehehehe.....I take that as a joke.

[@user-uo4fl5mn7b]

Do not even buy this nonsense. It is better to buy Mikhail Sholokhov's books on this topic.

[@gimmethedetails]

Stalins Jews www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

[@jsilva4847]

I'm gonna pick up Red Famine. Sounds great.

[@jezalb2710]

@@user-uo4fl5mn7b nope

[@king_cobra5492]

excellent. thank you, Anne.

[@MrLeezasky]

The worst moderator I've seen in a long time. Upstaging, interrupting, and not allowing questions to be asked as they are asked, rather than making one after another questioner talk, and then forgetting to answer the first question.

[@xrystalskyes2838]

Poorly conducted, why were three questions thrown at her at once? I’m not understanding the logic behind that.

[@politicabritanicaynorteame9266]

España no trató de exterminar triibu alguna, siento decirlo pero fue su país quien lo hizo en todo el suroeste de los Estados Unidos. Por lo demás. mis respetos y mi acuerdo con usted.

[@jazzalti7944]

Does Spanish Inquisition rings a bell 🔔 ??

[@faloticostefano]

23:34, 15:18, 50:03

[@louishurr393]

The moderator…good grief.

[@bradhirsch4845]

The sound is too low on this.

[@issacf4416]

The guy has a strange way to show he’s following along by constantly looking & staring everywhere except the speaker. 40:22 🧐

[@tea5214]

Now then ' who financed the Bolshevik's and why ?

[@tea5214]

Who was teaching Lenin Marxism in Switzerland ? So the Swiss government was indirectly responsible for the Bolshevik occupation of Russia.Lenin was captured and held prisoner for a short time by the Russian government after the failed takeover attempt of the Bolsheviks in 1905' who were Jacob Schiff and Joseph Warburg the Wall Street banker and Industrialist funding with millions of dollars ? ...all for the sake of Zionism and Bolshevism, same as the OT ethnic cleansing stories and the Jacobites in France, and now ISIS in the Middle East.

[@MrLeezasky]

FALSE anti Semitic propaganda, based on Nazi lies and conspiracy theories without any basis in fact. Applebaum knows her stuff. She has done massive research, not by surfing the internet, but in the archives and othersources. She is a real historian, unlike the peddlers of anti Semitic conspiracy bullshit.

[@helenoftroy9621]

Yes...disgusting how they create all the shite & then profit from it! shoah business. If she wasn't part of the evil cover up...she wouldn't be promoted and published - look what happened to Esra Pound. THE TRUTH SETS UP FREE lOVE TO ALL the TRUTHERS

[@gimmethedetails]

Stalins Jews www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

[@zachariavallickad7264]

The Bengal famine was brought about br Churchill and his grain stealing policies from Colonial India. No westerner has a spared a thought on this crime. Come on humaninty, be HUMAN.

[@lexbor3511]

Well historian Stephan Kotkin who just finish his second book about Stalin is saying Stalin did not intentionally starved Ukrainians. It will be interesting to hear the debates of Applebaum and Kotikin on the topic. Because Kotkin is also very pro-Western anti-communist person and he said it was a terrible famine, it was another Stalin's crime but there is zero proof that it was specifically anti-Ukrainian act. As far as I know famine was also in South Russia and Kazakhstan and famine in Kazakhstan was even more drastic than in Ukraine.

[@wolfumz]

Lex Bor I seriously can't imagine someone making that argument given the records/minutes of Stalin at committee meetings, or the written record preserved in his letters. I mean it's pretty plain that he knew about the famine, he denied the famine has going on internally, he hid the famine internationally with a carefully orchestrated program, and he personally promulgated laws that imposed suffering on Ukrainian peasants. For example, in the middle of the famine, passing a law in his handwriting imposing death sentences for stealing state grain + another 1933 law outlining privileges of abundant cheap good food at special stores for "responsible workers" and "specialists" (party leadership, upper management). Im like stunned a self respecting historian would even try to argue this. Whether or not Stalin set out to disproportionately impose suffering onto the Ukrainian's, that's what he did.

[@Cris-if8kf]

​@wolfumz What degree do you have then to Counter this academic argument then. Kotkin is a very credible historian rugged anti communist and very much not Not a Stalinist in any way

[@lexbor3511]

@@Cris-if8kf I know Kotkin is anti-communist. Thats why I brought him, not some stalinist

[@lexbor3511]

​@@wolfumz This tragedy is used in modern politics by majority of people as an argument to build necessary political narrative. So every "self respecting historian" understands that he has to bring very serious arguments to prove the opposite against the main narrative of our time. Thats why Kotkin is important - he is pro-Western historian. On the other hand if you think for yourself - why would Stalin starve Ukrainians intentionally when he did not abolish their republic (like he did with some other republics), he even gave them Polish lands after ww2... Ukrainian and Belorussian schools were closed after Stalin's dearth... In reality this famine was usual communist failure resulted in millions of death and communists (including Stalin) stubbornly rejected facts of this tragedy blaming everything on "enemies". Thats why victims were not only in Ukraine but also in Russia, Kazakhstan. Today this story is replaced with anti-Russian - as another example of Russian anti-Ukrainian imperialism. Thats why everyone who say the opposite is called "controversial". History is always the tool of ideology, to "learn lessons". Thats why real historians who care only about facts ignore the dictate of modern narrative...

[@leorivers7759]

The gentleman on the left seems loath to relinquish either the spotlight or the mike to the guest.

[@corvanhoute8072]

Attention: kijk alert

[@gwho]

AND ppl still somehow endorse communism... SMh i dont get it

[@darrenrobinson9041]

It's like MLM - if you are near the top of the pyramid your life is good.

[@ScorpioBornIn69]

These kinds of people need to go visit 'The Wall of Grief' in Moscow to see for themselves the facts and horrors of communism 'and' those who are victims of political persecution by Joseph Stalin during the country's Soviet era. The national memorial was unveiled by Russian President Vladimir Putin and Patriarch Kirill of Moscow on October 30, 2017, the annual Day of Remembrance of the Victims of Political Repressions. Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the construction of the monument in 2014. The city of Moscow paid approximately $6 million of the cost, and roughly $800,000 more was contributed by individual and corporate donors. After meeting with the country's Human Rights and Civil Society Council, Putin stated on October 30, 2017, during the opening ceremony that the tragedy must not be forgotten or justified, as "an unequivocal and clear assessment of the repression will help to prevent it being repeated". The ceremony was witnessed by around 100 attendees, many of whom were senior citizens, human rights activists and government officials of Moscow. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_of_Grief

[@wolfumz]

Why the fuck are there so many anti Semitic comments? Your presence is unwanted guys

[@rachelblack314]

If the laptop belonged to Trump's son instead of Biden's son, I bet she'd care

[@1223steffen]

Stalin handled the famine the way trump handled covid

[@cameron9643]

She’s a left winger and that makes her an amateur. She’s not your friend.

[@jezalb2710]

And?

[@lembergnative7731]

what a dumb comment... No wonder Trumpists are widely considered idiots. And I say this as a conservative.

[@pugnatorr]

propaganda

[@jezalb2710]

And?

[@firstal3799]

Applesauce is stupid

[@DipakBose-bq1vv]

A pure propagandist. How could Stalin create famine in Ukraine, which in the early 1930s was occupied by the Ukranian Nationalist Army, who used to rob the people of their food stocks and even farm animals??

[@user-uo4fl5mn7b]

A complete lie! It is better to read the Nobel laureate, the writer Mikhail Sholokhov. There was no war against Ukraine! Hunger was in Kazakhstan and Russia, even the most fertile regions of Russia, the Kuban and the Volga region, were starving!

[@williamolenchenko5772]

And your lie is the truth?

[@valentynderkach8834]

Sholokhov is not any kind of historical source. He's a soviet writer. Hunger indeed affected also Kazakhstan and Russia. It is a complex issue. There were many factors involved. It was a way to force so called "industrialization", a way to get rid of private farmers. In Ukraine it also helped to suppress national movement. Holodomor was not the only measure in that sense but just one of many. Not sure what is lie here. I'm not surprised to see a comment like that coming from someone called Сергей Сорокин.

[@hpvspeedmachine4183]

Putin rat troll