Red Flags in Childhood: Early Markers for BPD - Nicki R. Crick, PhD

Borderline Personality Disorder: Research Across the Lifespan and Clinical Applications for Treatment - October 18-19, 2008 Minneapolis, MN

[@miagonzo5522]

i felt constantly unsafe and don't feel like i really got to be a child.

[@melonsoda123]

The first flag starts at 9:18 :-)

[@TheChickenRiceBowl]

God thank you.

[@d.charlie2319]

thank you

[@lolitalamb]

BrightBlue1111 lol. Thanks 😊

[@user-hi9cv1sc2i]

Thank you!

[@88floral]

BrightBlue1111 Thank you 🙂

[@JDforeveralone]

5 minutes into the video and my heart is filled with pain! I've lost my girl aged 17 over two weeks ago - suicide. She didn't get a diagnosis I was afterwards told that she had symptoms of PTSD/ADHD and BPD. But the psychiatrist now after her death was quite sure that she had full BPD. I'm not blaming anyone, my faith helps me to accept things which are written for each one of us. I'm just hoping that in this field of the health sector will be invested much more than until now. Lives are at stake! It's not just the physical illnesses which are causing death - many times what is going on in our heads/souls but in a perfectly healthy physical body will kill us 💔 ... I'm writing this in memory of my Hafsa - my mssg to everyone out there - hold on to your kids (same title of a great read by Gabor Mate)

[@TM-mi2yc]

Sorry for your loss

[@adatbh]

I’m so sorry

[@mariesantos6041]

My daughter just turned 21 and everyone says she is a adult...yet I know she fell into a very toxic environment in her place of employment with a narcissistic employer who has kept me from seeing her ...Please help me if you can to save my daughter Isabella💞🌺

[@lindalambert8727]

So sorry about your loss! It is so tragic to see these people and their families in so much pain.

[@dimpletoadfoot8631]

Hugs to you, I'm so sorry. Our healthcare system should be able to help our kids when they're much younger

[@saras.2173]

We need a (new) diagnostic term that somehow combines chronic PTSD, codependent or people-pleasing behaviors, and quiet borderline traits. So many of these people get diagnosed with depression, but in many cases that doesn’t exactly capture the heart of it. It’s more of an adaptation or a way of being in relationships rather than a classic mood disorder. I see so many clients with this clinical presentation, and I always feel like the right diagnosis is not really in the DSM.

[@belle3055]

I got diagnosed with depression and anxiety too. But I'm sure I got bpd, cptsd, adhd, social anxiety...

[@luciano6967]

I agree

[@derrick9635]

@@belle3055 yep me too ,,I've recently spoke to my team and there useless,,,how many thousands are not being heard .

[@derrick9635]

Good point ,,you ever hear of Sam vaknin,,,he has some very interesting takes on physcology and DSM ,,he refers to both as nothing more than tarot reading. Not that I totally agree with him ,,hes a self proclaimed NPD and expert on it .

[@marthamryglod291]

My ex after a month looked me in the eyes one evening and said, we are mirrors to each other. Good or bad. We both were abandoned by one parent and had the other parent was not able to emotionally support us as children. We took an intake survey at a couples counselor and individually scored about the same for social anxiety, and fear of abandonment. We used each other for love we couldn't give to ourselves. We both have had a variety of these diagnosis given, but they're all trying to say the same thing.

[@miagonzo5522]

i used to coddle myself. i used to heat up bottles of milk at an age where i was past being "babied" and i would lay down in bed, put a blanket or pillow under the bottle and bottle feed myself. i also have gaps in memory of my childhood. i generally only remember the things that traumatized me

[@dimpletoadfoot8631]

Our daughter we always described as "screamy" when she was really little. People around us said that would develop into tantrums, but she seemed to have some crazy overload of emotions where she just couldn't calm down until it had run it's course. Now she's 16 and very much BPD (and high anxiety/depressed), but we can't get the right help for her. Prozac "keeps the lid on" the explosions, but she really needs DBT therapy. Big hugs to all of you out there who are BPD and those who care for them :)

[@L4LA0412]

We Have empathy. At least in my case I have big empathy, and hyper sensitive. but... the impulses are so intense, faster and bigger so it feels like EXTREMELY HARD TO JUST HOLD LITTLE TIME the reactions (THE MORE WE TRY TO STOP IT, THE MORE IT'S GETTING BIGGER and HARD TO STOP IT) It's like the state of survival instinct that CONSTANT active and that part of brain extremely sensitive. Adrenaline seems at the state of READY TO GO every times, it's help us to shut off the inner pains. When the brain just too busy overflow with the feeling of emotions energies, that too intense and it's like no room for empathy. Feelings and Emotions for BPD it's very sticky, like glue. It's like self driving car with full automatic mode. We see it everything in front of us, we know we will hit something, but we just don't have clues HOW to handle that car with manual mode. Feeling trapped in that car, clueless and constant fears, desperate, helpless, hopeless and powerless. Live at constant fear that we may hurt ourselves and others as well. Blame ourselves, deep sense of guilty and deep shame of what we are. For sure it's from my own perspective and possibility others might have different experiences and perspective too.

[@_Sorry_Not_Sorry]

At the age of about 4/5 I ran away from home, in the belief my parents would be able to be happy if I wasn't their child. I got as far as the local chippy and they took me home. I had a nervous breakdown at the age of ten, took an overdose and started banging my head against my bedroom wall. My parents called out the emergency doctor, who said I must be distressed about my grandmothers death (which was 3 years previous). At the age of 12 I ran away again, after my mother told me my behaviour was resulting in them getting a divorce, (they are still married). By the time I was 13 I was drinking alcohol every day, even at school. Then started smoking weed. At 14 I started party drugs, left home at 15. My first relationship was full of domestic violence and that became a pattern. I was diagnosed with BPD in my late 30's, did DBT and started meds, although by then I was on hard drugs. I'm still fighting addiction, my parents won't talk to me about my mental health. When I tried to ask my mum about all the signs of issues in my childhood, she states she can't remember anything I've brought up and believes I'm trying to plant false memories in her head. That this is an effort to gaslight her and make her feel bad, because I am selfish and problematic. In fact I'm the only source of stress in their lives, which is why I'm not allowed to have their address or call them directly on the phone. I needed help as a child, as an adult I'm supposed to keep my problems to myself. I pray that any child going through the hopeless, emptiness and pain I went through finds help. Real practical help and that they find some happiness in life, because life is here and done before you catch your breath. 🙏Say Gouranga and be happy 🙏❤️

[@jackiel7726]

Sorry for your childhood. My mother also have BPD disorder and when I would tell her the things that she did wrong when I was a kid she does not remember. Professor Sam Vaknin which is the master at BPD He talks about that these people dissociate and forget what they do They don't remember they don't want to feel shame and guilt so they erase everything from their mind Your mom was not well. You should move on and forget about them because you are the way you are because of them. They never cater to your needs When I talk to my mom I know that I'm talking to a sick person Sometimes she's very clear when she speaks and other times she's a psychopath. I know right away when she is in crisis. Good luck in life please do everything possible to improve your life.

[@adelevanniekerk4461]

I send you love and light

[@doreenplischke7645]

My grandmother and mother had BPD and I was diagnosed in my mid thirties. My daughter is 9 and is being currently evaluated. I understand she is likely not gonna be diagnosed BPD however she is ‘just like me’ and I am just like my mother was. My grandmother and mother were never professionally diagnosed in fact they thought that there was nothing wrong with themselves. I always knew they weren’t quite like anyone else and as long as I can recall I knew I wasn’t like the other kids. I have been terrified of being the mother I had. My childhood and teenage hood was very much traumatizing. I am aware of those traits that make it impossible to be that poster mom and I, too caused great damage in my children before I started therapy. It is so important to realize what’s actually going on and actively get into recovery. I hope I will continue to manage this curse of an illness the best way possible to prevent more impact on my kids. I feel so sorry for them and there are times I wished I had never become a mother and stopped the line of genetics. My son might also have it, I am not sure. He was diagnosed MDD and GAD. He is 16. Perhaps it’s due to me being a mom with BPD. I strongly suspect that.

[@willrose592]

BPD is cross-generational, so typically a mother will pass it on to her son easier than to her daughter.

[@yourkarma2250]

@@willrose592 says who?

[@mindpower9057]

My BPD sister was always “difficult” ever since we were little children. She cried a lot when she was a baby, I think the condition is genetic.

[@5thdimension625]

Yes! Keen berg said one day they’ll find genetic markers for it

[@marthamryglod291]

I have a sister who has always been "thin skinned" since a baby. She can see in to the soul of people, but her environment can throw her around. Genetics definitely plays a large part.

[@Laura-nl8df]

100% I believe there's a genetic component. The genetic distribution I see includes : adhd vs advanced academics.

[@lunaloynaz-lopez2318]

@@Laura-nl8df Could you explain that a little more please? I definitely seem to be noticing the same thing, just wanted a little more depth into your opinion

[@Multicrafter1]

As a professional, I m glad to see research into younger population with personality disorders as they certainly exist. Hopefully. This will eventually lead to effective interventions.

[@stefaniamirri1112]

Will not cause having unhealthy confused population feeds the systems put in place by givernments.. It's a power control strategy, not fairy tales

[@jessicaalcorn6314]

mental illness does not come out of nowhere. it comes from trauma.

[@alymig70]

This is an opinion; Highly sensitive children are more likely to succumb to mental illness if they suffer trauma, just the same way those highly sensitive children become Einsteins or Picassos, growing up in a loving and supportive family. I just think that the highly sensitive thing is the genetic component, where the "mental illness" originates in infancy, as a maladaptive response to an unstable environment. Highly sensitive. Just my unsupported non professional opinion..

[@itsmenoodlehead]

Well the problem is with some children (I am speaking from personal experience!) have the unfortunate experience to come from unfeeling, uncaring parents and its that experience that is extremely traumatic for us that have BPD. It's where we learn that nobody close to us cares for us, or loves us, and for heavens sake if the people close to us do not care for or love us how are going to ever make that leap.

[@marcycarson2130]

Yes, exactly. Add to this... 10 people can witness the same event. This event will be experienced/perceived 10 different ways. Those predisposed to thinking in a negative way can feel trauma from the experience. This doesn't mean there was intentional or actual trauma, it means that it was perceived/felt as trauma.

[@hightidesmrforever2themoon449]

Jessica Alcorn Amen

[@Kristen10-22]

Jessica Alcorn how about hostile unpredictable parents / environmental

[@Nclphx]

that's exactly how I felt in school, well still to this day actually.

[@derrick9635]

Dr Daniel fox on KZbin is AMAZING for BPD

[@janesmith9677]

Found him. Thanks for the intro.

[@crystallinestate4684]

I feel i might have used excellence as a way of covering for, or making up for my borderline traits in both childhood and adulthood

[@lisarodriguez8681]

Absolutely Ditto

[@krickett8538]

"excellence", good word for it

[@arkmom2girls]

The audio in all of these videos is very faint. Even with the volume all the way up, its difficult to hear the speakers

[@carolinam1573]

It was fine with headphones

[@smileyface5908]

The subtitles are good

[@lampwizard4871]

@@carolinam1573 if your on windows then turn on "Loudness Equalization " there's many youtube videos that can help. should you want the help 🤔

[@kimheadland9224]

Hi been diagnosed with Bpd but had a really good childhood with both parents one sister one brother myself all in all a really good childhood relationships three with whom I am married to I have three children no trauma in my life at all no drugs alcohol or gambling no self harming and no fear of abandonment

[@franny5295]

Can you have bpd without fear of abandonment? Could you have been misdiagnosed?

[@gitchygitchyyaya]

People who suffered from CEN often report having a good childhood. Is that a possibility?

[@JDforeveralone]

@@gitchygitchyyaya 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 at 48 I only discovered that recently. Cos CEN is so subtle. You can have on the outside the perfect upbringing, yet emotionally you were neglected. And even the parent who is "responsible" for that neglect was surely a victim of trauma or neglect her/himself. Now, if you yourself didn't have BPD or are not "officially" diagnosed with it and managed to have sort of a normal life, it will most certainly effect the upbringing of one's own kids - my girl.

[@marthamryglod291]

@@gitchygitchyyaya oh yes. You may have no idea what you are missing.

[@USALibertarian]

Wait, personality is fixed by 6 but disorders aren't there until 18? WTF?

[@dorinadragan20]

Dr. Crick passed away in 2012. She only got the chance to publish one special (of the 2 she had in mind) on precursors to personality disorders in adolescents that she mentions right at the beginning of this presentation.

[@dawnemile7499]

So far this talk seems to blame the child for not developimg as they should. The environment is probably the biggest reason for this lack. Parenting, divorce, abuse, a whole number of factors.

[@unsignedredefined7525]

Blame requires the assignment of responsibility. Saying "the child fails to develop proper emotional regulation" is not the same as "it's the child's fault they can't regulate their emotions". The former is a statement, like "the porridge is cold" vs blame - "the porridge is cold because Grandma left it out".

[@LeviOArts]

I'm surprised the fear or real or imagined abandonment or rejection wasn't brought up. Much of these behaviors have deep rooted links to these fears. Paranoia would be explained by these fear; long term or reoccurring abuse or unstable environment may also contribute to feelings of paranoia. Many of these deviations of personality are often defense mechanisms learned from past experiences. Also, I feel it is necessary to state that your findings that women are more likely to be diagnosed with BPD are influenced by sociological factors gearing towards toxic masculinity and the fear of emotional vulnerability many people socialized as male inherit, keeping many men from seeking therapy and therefore are less likely to be diagnosed. Most men with BPD exhibit their unregulated emotions through anger, paranoia, whereas most women exhibit these emotions through anxiety, paranoia, but people are much more complicated than that of course. The claim that "maternal neglect" is a main factor in a child developing BPD is a very sexist speculation; both men and women abuse children, and both men and women can have BPD; that being said, parental neglect is very common in BPD sufferers. Social withdrawal is another factor that differentiates BPD from BP; social withdrawal is usually caused by a sense of inadequacy or fear of abandonment/rejections, even though the sufferer of BPD desires interaction with others.

[@stefaniamirri1112]

Very well said, bless you.. I just think that researchers haven't really the taste of wt is going on in the area of their researches cause they adopt always their external point of view during their analisys, always making a different between US and THEM where us are the health and them the mentally ill.. But I wobder.. It is really an illness all this, or isn't simply the natural response to negative back grounds, generational, created by traumas not cared nor released after having experienced it? Highly sensitivity could be a personality trait.. Even genetic roots can bring to enforce the chances to be into this, but the point is to be willing to set up tools that helps ppl to manage these conditions if not possible to recover from it, rather than studying and being surprised of the facts that labels damage ppl...

[@snephtar]

Excellent comments regarding the origins of maladaptive characteristics, which I believe need to be the focus of treatment and healing. Thank you for articulating this so well. Compassion is sorely lacking in attitudes toward these individuals

[@yourenough3]

I had to use headphones in order to hear this . Good topic and an important topic as well.

[@xenatron9056]

just curious if stealing is somehow involved? What about 'sneakiness'? Can that be interpreted as a symptom of 'self caring' or meeting ones own needs because they are neglected? My theory being not ever earning 'value to value' exchanges and this appears later in life as dishonest exchanges, not because the person with BPD is necessarily bad, but because they just don't know how to make proper exchanges. Any thoughts?

[@faithevolution552]

These explanations took forever...when everyone already knows that BPD is a result of childhood trauma and neglect. It can even be caused by an infant struggling with colic, recurrent tummy aches and ear aches...or any other chronic pain that care givers can't see with the naked eye. But BPD is definitely a result of chronic fear, anxiety, neglect and/or abuse from siblings or teachers or classmates...but most likely their caregivers. The extremey high fear-based negative emotional affect is brain damage from too much cortisol in the body. Any way, I feel like a number, or a statistic...or a Borderline widget. Why don't researchers just ask their patients how they feel and if they know why they act the way they do?

[@Becomingization]

Not all BPD is due to neglect or childhood trauma. It can be the result of a reaction to loss creating a fear of abandonment. It can be related to substance misuse. There are many cases of BPD that tick all the risk factors and others that tick non with children coming from loving caring nurturing homes. There may be some genetic or biological psychopathology at play. It is a heart breaking disorder for the suffer and the individuals on whom the individual with BPD displaces their anger and hurt onto often leading to the abuse of the people who love them and care about them. DBT is currently the best intervention

[@th8257]

There's also been some recent studies that have linked BPD in some women to polycystic ovary syndrome, and the higher levels of androgens in the blood that come with it

[@faithevolution552]

@@th8257 higher levels of androgens like testosterone are linked to high levels of cortisol. Cortisol is a result of anxiety, fear, stress, or from too much caffeine. During a childs developmental years, the brain is being wired with too much cortisol. This means that it won't develop normally....it will become a fear-based, shame based and fear-based brain. The amygdala becomes too large. It's a chronic cycle that gets worse with each passing day.

[@faithevolution552]

@@Becomingization I doubt that are unexplainable. That doesn't correlate to any reaserch that I know about. But, like I mentioned, chronic undiagnosed earache, or colic, tummy aches, headaches and fevers...any kind of chronic and relentless, unpredictable and unavoidable fear at home...even a fear of being taken to day care and abandoned, where the child is bullied...this can cause the kind of high and chronic stress that will result in borderline personality disorder. Any kind of unavoidable situation that leaves an infant and preschooler... then a young child feeling ashamed, fearful and vulnerable to being bullied and mistreated...usually from caregivers, can cause the over-reactive nervous system to develop, what we call BPD. There is no evidence that it is caused by DNA or inherited. That just means that others in the family also have the disorder.

[@faithevolution552]

@@Becomingization Psychopathy is the opposite of BPD; it is a lack of emotional affect. I would like to see the studies that you are referring to.

[@dixiedobbins]

I suspect my adult daughter has BPD. I do t know what to do for her. It’s exhausting and Sges hurt all of us do many times. She never had trauma, in fact she was very loved & spoiled. I would love for her to get help. She’s fo unhappy, and is damaging her children beyond repair. She’s 41 is there any hope? I love her but I fear her.

[@CJ-jq4lv]

Look into Dialectical Behavior Therapy for her. It helped my daughter. They need to want to do it. It’s the old you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make her drink. My heart goes out to you.

[@USALibertarian]

Failing to help kids because they refuse to diagnose, or "label" them as you word it, ridiculous. Help kids and worry about your reputation, career and "professional" society memberships later.

[@henriettevandam166]

Thank you dr Crick.. This explained a lot. Very clear and inclusive. It helps me to understand my child better. Now my child is an adult.we have a good relation but it was a long way. Wish i knew this earlier...I see a lot of borderliners reactions on this video. Interesting 😉

[@PinkStink69]

I mean you gave her BPD. Funny how you dismiss and label “strong” reactions as borderline 😉

[@yayrabbit]

volume so low I can't here a thing.

[@MNJGaGa]

louder than my fuck-noises.

[@hightidesmrforever2themoon449]

Yay Rabbit i thought it was just me lol

[@shecat1964]

She is not really describing the red flags. What do the symptoms or red flags look like? Give some symptoms/ behaviors to look out for.

[@AllTaxisRYellow]

Doctors wouldn’t tell you if you had BPD even if you handed it to them on a silver platter. The system is a failure.

[@jackiel7726]

👍💯

[@jenniferwestmoreland3004]

I really wish I could have heard this

[@leesh2684]

I remember splitting at age 4. I wanted my mom to read a book to me. She got mad yet did it anyway. I split. I didn’t like her. I got over it and moved on. But I’ll always remember that moment. I didn’t like her. I wanted a divorce from her. I was so young. We were never close 😢

[@mariab9707]

splitting is normal at this age… but it’s when we keep doing it as adults that it’s not. something went wrong and we didn’t mature out of this psychological frame.

[@sagebludog]

talk about adding stigma to mental illness. whoever named this condition needs to have their heads examined. talk about throwing gasoline on the fire. must have been someone with pharmaceutical investments in anxiety drugs

[@drina4706]

It was in 1939. They didn't know much about psychiatric illnesses then.

[@angelou7774]

The female speaker doesn’t like the label ‘BPD’ as she feels it negatively affects the patient but wants the state to continue funding these studies. Do you see the problem with this? They just want to diagnose more unfortunate souls with BPD. To carry heavy in their shoulders the burden of this label, to walk around like you have it tattooed on your forehead to be treated like shit by professionals and prejudged as the devil. Why don’t they spend more time and money on TREATMENT rather than finger pointing.

[@mishaanton5436]

They cant treat you, with drugs w/o a diagnosis. Standard if care includes drugs. And an accurate description AND understanding is required to treat. Problem is, science mostly looks at humans as just higher evolved animals with base instinct reactions. Untill "experts" see humans as uniquely sentient from animals the generalized misunderstood labelling will continue.

[@wynngwynn]

TBH the doctors need to get their heads out of their asses if they are letting their own biases cloud their judgement and are using really bad and outdated stereotypes.

[@th8257]

You need to understand what you're treating first. That requires describing it. If you have angina, you have angina until you don't. If you have BPD, you have BPD until you don't (which is entirely possible).

[@jazzmeaniesmama1]

One is a metaphysical imbalance which is completely out of the vessel's control, while BPD is a distortion and ill adjusted view and low threshold reaction to external stimuli both real or imagined.

[@ichabodcrane5997]

The reason diagnosis for borderline have been on the rise in children is simply because it's now more lucrative. BPD is now a hot topic and every psudo-expert on the subject is out there scrambling to publish self help materials hoping to get on the gravy train. A few years ago it was bipolar disorder. In "answering" the first question put to this women, she managed to talk to talk without actually answering the question. And there you have you're typical academic. The older I get, the harder it's getting to stomach these so called experts who manage to run at the mouth for hours and not actually say anything definitive. I've come to realize that the only one who can help me is me. I'm simply going to have to learn, through trial and error, how to manage this illness on my own.

[@mrsjones1618]

After that and a bunch of tears .. :) I had to come back and add this... The one thing.. if you are young, and suffer this BPD, and it is centered around your interactions with other people... Pick your friends wisely! We know in our gut who is bad and good, and something happened to cause us to lose boundaries.. which we also lesson our own selves for company, by hanging around folks because they are more accepting of us for being retards...lmao! Don't do it! From experience.. I'm 54, and I have done that so many times,..and it caused me nothing but more crap, and hurt and loss in my life. Listening to your gut will help you keep from seeing only "black and white" as you get older.. and Black and white! It's NOT where you want to be... ..and the mood swings :) shit! Smoke a bowl :) I wish people wouldn't be so asinine about pot! It's probably what has saved my life. Not that it really means anything anyways.. but you get my drift 😆

[@entas7558]

Mrs Jones Just wanted to say I appreciate you for this. 💜 Hope you're well.

[@pam5389]

Ichabod Crane everything you said is so true. Thank you for your post 😊

[@derrick9635]

Watch sam vaknin ,,hes an expert on NPD but he talks alot about BPD

[@JDforeveralone]

@@derrick9635 like to add Dr Daniel Fox

[@handcrafted30]

Literally no idea what the red flags were. Anyone fancy a summary?

[@th8257]

Some recent studies have linked BPD in some women with polycystic ovary syndrome, and the higher levels of androgen in the blood that goes with it.

[@terywetherlow7970]

More and more parents of 40 y.o. Bpd's Starting to think it was in those shots. My 40 y.o. just isn't functioning....and fam is devastated.....arghhh.

[@anner.5347]

can't hear so what good is it?

[@abpgrace]

really low volume

[@caelidhg6261]

I am 53. I was diagnosed with Severe Anxiety Neurosis in like 1977? and then .. by 1980 I had ADHD. Went my whole life struggling.. fortunately had a mother who did well.. went to private schools.. BUT I was bullied.. and my parents were divorced. But I wanted to kill myself by age 10.... anyway. FAST FORWARD.. just in Jan. I was formally diagnosed with BPD after spinning out from all the stress of the pandemic.. I am seeing a connection.. but I have to say.. therapists suck in that they do really treat you with kid gloves and folks avoid you like the plague when you have BPD.. so. YAY.. not.

[@JDforeveralone]

I wish you well! Look up on Utube Dr Daniel Fox

[@annettemoran9047]

I cannot hear this video and my sound is at maximum. Please repair and re-load as I am interesting in watching this and listening to it. Thank you NEA BPD.

[@joanbaczek2575]

its been fixed the audio is working now

[@annettemoran9047]

great

[@Rocket9944]

joan baczek No it's not!

[@joanbaczek2575]

i could hear the sound on my speakers and on the earphones

[@katherenewedic8076]

BPD, along with a few other labels, seem to kind of be a can to dump a bunch of behaviors in. Seems science is more about proving a label

[@michellebuczacz4820]

I can't hear you.....

[@Patricia-ok1cd]

i cannot hear you

[@mosaicglass]

I don't have time to watch this right now but I know in my case there was severe childhood abuse that has been verified beyond a doubt.

[@LadyToniHarrison]

This video would be a lot better IF I COULD HEAR IT! What the hell is wrong with the sound?

[@LadyToniHarrison]

My speakers were up as far as they would go.

[@catmn2007]

Toni Harrison use headphones thats what I did.

[@Becomingization]

Faith, I have worked with patients with BPD and teach student therapist about some of the predisposing factors. Essentially BPD CAN be related to childhood trauma but NOT ALL individuals present with early Trauma. In fact, there are individuals with BPD who have come from the most loving caring homes. There are multiple hypothesis about the cause. There is a correlation (which is not cause) with early Trauma and abuse as one possible cause. There is also correlation with attachment issues and real or perceived abandonment. Abandonment may not be deliberate. Children react differently to similar situations. E.g. loss of a parent through death or divorce can cause abandonment issues as can being sent to boarding school by loving caring parents. There is also a correlation with ADHD and BPD, also brain injury, drug use and genetics. Diagnosis is by observation and subjective accounts by the patient. Please note, medical professionals do not know for sure but the above are many of the risk factors. But as previously mentioned, many kids from wonderfully loving homes develop the condition, while many who are abused never develop it. Research goes on.

[@faithevolution552]

Idk, that's like saying that a bully isn't a product of being bullied, belittled or shamed at home. My 8 older siblings and one younger sibling each had different experiences growing up in our home. We were 10 children born within 12 years. We had a military father, a Senior Master Sargent in the Army/Air Force and a survivor of WW2. He was a violent and unpredictable man and an alcoholic. My mother was cruel...both of my parents were very hard on us. There was constant screaming, yelling, hitting and violence. It was so scary and it's horrible that any child would grow up as a prisoner of war in their own home. There was no safe place, no friends, no relatives, no neighbors, no pastor or Sunday School teacher...no one wanted to get close to us, and no one could get close to us ...there just wasn't any room. Anyway, each of my siblings and I lived under the same roof, had the same parents, but had very different childhoods... and my parents treated each of us differently, too. I have very few memories of my childhood, but the recurring nightmares that I had every single time that I fell asleep didn't come from nowhere. If a child is lucky the bad memories are blocked by cortisol. Thank God, cortisol destroys neurons, and the memories fade and eventually disappear, but the damage is done...the neurons are permanently damaged and with chronic stress the brain just can't develop properly. Chronic fear and stress causes the amygdala to become over developed and over-reactive. So the victim of chronic abuse or fear of any kind, suffers cognitive underdevelopment and emotional over-reactivity. It's a viscious cycle, but it isn't a mystery, scientists have known about this since brain scans and imaging have been available. Just because a therapist can't figure out why their patient has BPD doesn't mean that chronic stress, fear, and abuse didn't happen to their patient during the developmental years. It's a gift that we can forget the horrible things that literally cause brain damage.

[@Chucanelli]

“I choose friends who treat me badly.” *flashbacks to horribly toxic childhood friendships* Ouch. But thank you, I feel seen. Very important work.

[@Kristen10-22]

How about perception is reality? Some of us are sensitive

[@xrrrismickey]

OMG, the sound! Who recorded this, a kindergartener?

[@veemercer1698]

Audio on this important talk is quite poor. Please do a voiceover.

[@pamelaroyce5285]

I agree. I cannot hear this well enough to understand it. My volume on my device and my head set it turned up to maximum.

[@nisaba5752]

At 0:17 seconds,a mysterious shadow figure goes by in front of the camera!! 😱 .....😁...

[@noctemaeternam8376]

I hear you fine *

[@mac-ju5ot]

I can't hear it so its wanted I formation. On some video..nothing prepares for real life.

[@yourkarma2250]

You are not broken the people who hurt you are .......Somebody change the Name !! Childabuse is PTSD not BPD

[@IntheMOMENT22173]

if you bump into me and don't say sorry...you are a threat.

[@kwhite749]

Omg yes

[@leaharvey5201]

I watched the whole thing just for the very last question, but she didn’t have the answer…😫

[@terywetherlow7970]

There has got to be a connection with Tourettes Syndrome and Bpd.

[@AmyGoreham]

I don't think you really understand BPD.

[@belle3055]

If she doesn't have it, of course she will not understand it truly. She's just saying what she learned from searching 🔎

[@derekpmoore]

The better name is Developmental Trauma Disorder.

[@stevegreenwood7837]

GONA HAVE TO GO TO LOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@stevegreenwood7837]

yer VOLUME SOOO LOW CANT HEAR IT I MEAN LOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@mosesbullrush8051]

It starts at 9:18 but all her research is based on self-reporting by children/patients which is ridiculous because if the patent had insight into themselves, they would not have a disordered personality.

[@stefaniamirri1112]

There are no disorders only obvious consequences to generational traumas.. It is all linked and if not processed properly healing the wound trauma generates further traumas self feeding the cycle

[@Crystalquartz964]

This was made in 2009.

[@titaniumexpose6365]

the audio is terrible

[@natascha_mephisto]

The name would be emotional regulation disorder XD

[@robertkrepek2561]

Poor volume. Unlistenable.

[@hightidesmrforever2themoon449]

Stop labelling them! They are survivors of childhood abuse, plain and simple.

[@treasuretrovel3816]

And if they go on to hurt others than shame on them and they should be labeled and quenched.

[@drina4706]

@@treasuretrovel3816 No. They should be offered help . Because BPD is treatable. Highly treatable. Would you say this to someone who is addicted to alcohol? I don't think so. And BPD is a spectrum disorder.

[@StreetcarDesire]

@@drina4706 Thank you. Can't believe how many idiots think only the ones with mental illness committ crimes. 😑

[@jordsupp]

Not quite that "plain and simple" I suspect. In fact, "plain and simple" sounds like black-and-white thinking. Breathe, retreat, consider and then re-engage.

[@Orion227]

Research has revealed that the parents are not abusive, it’s not that plain and simple. Emotional Dysregulation means that a child will feel emotionally attacked even when parents are being normal, speaking normal, but their interpretation is that a f feeling attacked.

[@bonitabrandt5286]

This is barely audible.

[@brittanysmart3507]

I'm skipping out on this video I am very bored. I will find another one about BPD. Thanks anyway.

[@margaretthatcher4315]

This is a scholarly presentation. It does not appear to be made for an audience with less than a completed college degree but more so completed masters coursework. It’s going to be boring to watch if you don’t have a background.

[@magic131]

Margaret Thatcher exactly. Evident in many of the comments

[@user-hw6kq4ne2t]

I don’t have a masters, English is my second language and I do understand it, very well.

[@magic131]

@@user-hw6kq4ne2t anyone who says they're smart is not lollll

[@user-hw6kq4ne2t]

magic131 if you say so

[@belle3055]

I don't have masters, dropped out of college, I feel like I have bpd, I understand the video

[@rogueantful]

Too long, slow intro.

[@donellasabatini-corleone9283]

Too much waffle and much too long an intro.Get to the points!Had to give up watching as it agitated me.Very frustrating..

[@genebennett4127]

+Jeanette Appleton-Maxwell lmao it was so boring I dissociated came back then went into a deep sleep

[@girlinthesouth850]

Donella Sabatini-Corleone rude

[@stefaniamirri1112]

Some loves heard their own voice... Lolol she conveys messages in group spread here and there.. I noticed the lack of consistency in this video too

[@geminityy]

Welcome to psychology. I’ve never had a psych professor who didn’t ramble like that

[@raphaelavelasquez4706]

Childhood markers for BPD? The parents require frequent police intervention and the kids don't exist.

[@Becomingization]

Thankfully that is a limited perspective of BPD. The condition often shows up in kids and adults who have had a loving and nurturing upbringing. It is a condition caused not just by abuse.

[@th8257]

Some of this sounds like some of the symptoms of ADHD. I wonder if in future we will discover some form of biological link.

[@lailaaugust6069]

adhd and bpd share similar symptoms

[@roryteal5940]

I love the name BPD. A certain ambiguity, and you are on the border crossing lines...

[@Eternal_Satyr]

So, if it's politically incorrect to call it Borderline Personality Disorder, what would be a nice comfortable cozy sugar-coated name for it? Anyone who has ever lived with a BPD (19 years in my case) would be inclined to call it Succubus-Harpy from the Lowest Layer of the Abyss Syndrome or some such. I think it would be a better use of the psychotherapists' time to determine exactly how to eliminate BPD and stop worrying about hurting the BPD's feelings with what to call their mental illness. The BPD isn't worried about hurting other people's feelings. These are the thoughts of a severely wounded but otherwise mentally intact Non. Thanks for reading my rant.

[@kihntagious]

Oberon Pan 50 years in my case. I started binging and purging at 13 and I'm 63. Between 17 and 19 I screwed 50 men including help line men, a brand new thing stemming from the haight-ashbury period. I did crazy, dangerous things and I was mostly alone. I'm having a breakdown right now so I've dragged out a 13year year old dbt manual. It works. Life is still painful, dammit.

[@attheranch873]

Oberon Pan Emotional Disregulation Disorder.

[@drina4706]

Excuse me BPD sufferers don't care about others' feelings? They aren't Narcissists!!! They care! BPD is the name psychiatrists gave it in 1939 when psychiatry was in it's infancy. It is actually emotional dysregulation disorder and will be renamed so in the next couple DSMs. All psychiatrists will tell you that the BPD label is wrong! And by the way, people who developed BPD due to childhood trauma and abuse DO HAVE feelings and DO CARE about other people's feelings a lot!!!

[@stefaniamirri1112]

Oberon you talk from an external perspective, narcissism is just one branch of BPD and both are developmental so they change and worsen with time if you do not descover and trait them properly. Do not judge ppl and situations when you don't know it by lived experience cause your rant would show off just your laks

[@L4LA0412]

We Have empathy. At least in my case I have big empathy, and hyper sensitive. but... the impulses are so intense, faster and bigger so it feels like EXTREMELY HARD TO JUST HOLD LITTLE TIME the reactions (THE MORE WE TRY TO STOP IT, THE MORE IT'S GETTING BIGGER and HARD TO STOP IT) It's like the state of survival instinct that CONSTANT active and that part of brain extremely sensitive. Adrenaline seems at the state of READY TO GO every times, it's help us to shut off the inner pains. When the brain just too busy overflow with the feeling of emotions energies, that too intense and it's like no room for empathy. Feelings and Emotions for BPD it's very sticky, like glue. It's like self driving car with full automatic mode. We see it everything in front of us, we know we will hit something, but we just don't have clues HOW to handle that car with manual mode. Feeling trapped in that car, clueless and constant fears, desperate, helpless, hopeless and powerless. Live at constant fear that we may hurt ourselves and others as well. For sure it's from my own perspective and possibility others might have different experiences and perspective too.

[@badgieboo66]

😴

[@karenedonald]

people who are commenting on how they can't sit through this information: probably a good idea not to have children - you'll need patience

[@belle3055]

Lol

[@treasuretrovel3816]

Did not learn anything from this dragged out, non-specific, boring talk. In all fairness to the speaker though, when I say I did not learn anything, I have to confess that I did not watch it to the end. I couldn't. It was so bloody boring and painful to contemplate the amount of research money spent for handwaving science. Maybe take this poor quality video with poor quality sound and poor quality presentation and science off KZbin.