Red Hood in Live-Action Was AWFUL...

[@Demigah]

Words cannot describe the hate I had for Titans season 3, all because of that Red Hood garbáge

[@liqckz2976]

Bruh the red good actor is an amazing red hood, has an amazing physique and looks, even acting and fighting is great

[@daquanepaschal4633]

I watched this show so blind I thought it was good it’s alright but looking back at it 😭🙏

[@Pat12379]

​@liqckz2976 your on more drugs than red hood

[@TheChosenMoose01]

@@liqckz2976Bro looks like an actor on a Nickelodean show 😂😂😂

[@altalia07]

😞😞

[@ibannash]

What they did with Starfire was disgusting. She would never said that stuff. She'd be heartbroken and be trying to comfort Dick. Not chastise the Dead. No disrespect to Anna Diop, but this is ain't remotely Starfire. It's a whole new character with her name.

[@SpuroWasDead_WakeMeUpWhen]

Blame the writers the actor seemed fine but god the writing is awful

[@Knicks176]

@@SpuroWasDead_WakeMeUpWhen All of the actors were pretty good for the most part. The problem was they were handed a pile of flaming hot dog shit that made absolutely no sense for the characters they were meant to be portraying. I’m honestly not sure that the writers have ever read or watched any comic or comic adjacent material ever in their lives.

[@SpuroWasDead_WakeMeUpWhen]

@@Knicks176 average modern mcu writer

[@TheShockVox]

@@SpuroWasDead_WakeMeUpWhennah much as I dislike the MCU now, the titans writing is next level bad. It’s DC CW writing…because they share some of the same writers if I remember right

[@Willow-cw9te]

Anna Diop is a great actress, she did the most with what she was given, what she was given just wasn’t very good.

[@Waywardpine]

I really hated how they made Jason an fear toxin addict, Jason despises drugs his Mother overdosed in his home, he had too find her dead in a bathtub, it infatuated me how they completely misconeptualized his character arc .

[@liamstrack]

Anti-fear toxin actually. It was made to get rid of fear. I suspect if comic Jason was afraid of something and offered a drug like this he wouldn't hesitate to take it. No matter his background. But we've never seen anything like that in the comics (to my knowledge) so we'd never know if he would or wouldn't.

[@randallflagg3700]

@@liamstrack - It happened very recently in the comics actually, like a few months back during the Gotham War... Long story short, Jason Todd got perma-fear gased, so in "Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing" (by Matthew Rosenberg), a certain someone has to give him an antidote to make him better and not feel scared all the time like in *Titans*, and Jason chooses to take it...

[@cesar6004]

*infuriated

[@Granad784]

Not really

[@mikederdrache3305]

@@randallflagg3700 isn’t that a special circumstance though? Sense he was forced into a constant state of fear and was never in his right mind to say no or even had a choice sense it’s probably the only thing he’s gonna get?

[@mcl4549]

Did they just forget that Bruce was devastated after Jason’s death, and he became cold and isolated, and that’s the entire reason Tim became robin, to give light to Batman’s world again?

[@Dillon-d8p]

Bruh Starfire is black obviously the don't give a shit about the characters

[@Dillon-d8p]

Starfire is literally black they don't care about the characters just how they can group people into watching

[@Dillon-d8p]

"Hey black people watch this it has one of you in it " thats how corporations like this think

[@abdullahbilal7268]

​@@Dillon-d8p I know right like nice that you are including people but why not make a character for them that is good rather than rebranding other already established and well known characters for their many features whether physically or how they act.

[@dikhedmarcelious]

@@Dillon-d8pwho tf cares bruv? She’s an alien. Aliens look different. I couldn’t care less if she was green. Maybe on Tamaran skin works differently.

[@eon001]

Making the Titans edgy was such a dumb idea. They should have just made this a street level show about Nightwing. They didn't have the budget for Beast boy. Complete waste of time.

[@twilimess]

Beast Boy*

[@Mr.Suavehouse]

*breast boy

[@dinex5574]

@@twilimess 🤓

[@shawnswint1521]

I Feel like Greg Berlanti was Capitalizing off of Zach Snyder's Dark DCEU.

[@darthmalagus]

​@@shawnswint1521this is a joke about the race swap isnt it

[@anakinuzamakihatake5366]

Starfire blaming Jason for his own death is the worst

[@JoshMC2000]

Its made even worse when in the comics his a close enough friend to the point He will open up and talk to her honestly about what's going on in his head. witch he as done for no one else since coming back as the red hood.

[@Owls_are_nice]

This is worse ttgo man

[@starrsmith3810]

I don’t know what’s worst: The writers having The Titans bully a kid to the point he wanted to off himself and never apologizing or the writers actively having Bruce SEEK OUT to replace Jason. Bruce would’ve NEVER did that. He didn’t seek out to make Tim Robin. Bruce has either been so messed up over Jason’s death that he becomes more violent or he straight up fucking retires being Batman.

[@timmcgarry6723]

He didnt even seek out dick to become robin, in my eyes batman would never actively want any of the kids he took under his wing to become robin

[@reggielacey2235]

Nah. I didn't even bother with this showa after they made starfire black

[@TonyJaaFan1587]

It pissed me off when they all ganged up on him about shit that he would literally never have known about any of them except for maybe Raven

[@nicholassgobero]

It gets even worse because like, if he did all that stuff he would probably confess at that point, or at least have a laugh at their faces. If a person just straight up leaves after you call them out and they kept saying they didn't do anything most people would reconsider the accusation honestly

[@samflood5631]

That scene basically sums up just how unlikeable the characters are in this show.

[@itzthundertv]

yeah like how would jason know about the guy that died in front of hank and dove like how would he know that and about donna orange soda thing and about hanks bourbon thing

[@TonyJaaFan1587]

@@itzthundertv yeah, they never communicated any of that stuff to anyone other than themselves and they expect Jason to know when he spent most of his time in the Wayne Manor or out on patrol in Gotham not knowing any of them until he moved into the tower and became a member of the team, he didn’t even know aqualad existed I bet

[@xanderg.1070]

One of my biggest problems I had with that show was that it felt like the writers and producers of the show were so focused on the fact that they could go all R-rated with this show that it felt like writing the characters were the least important part of the show. Plus season 3 really made me realize that the writers behind the show probably didn’t even wanted to make a titans show but instead a Batman project, especially since the third season was set up to be based on the Blackfire saga, but instead chose to do a Batman storyline.

[@itzthundertv]

i dont even understand the r rating it was just a pushy pg 13 rating with a few nudity scenes and i feel like since its r rated they could have made the fights more brutal espeacially when it came to charecter who are more brutal i can think of a few scenes where besides nudity it felt like a rated r show and all of those werent even fight scenes it was when scarecrow was litterly professor pyg on that pizza delivery guy like bro thats not scarecrow thats professor pyg and when connor in season 4 had trigons son drink one of the goons blood and maybe the bodyless heads but if they really wanted to take affect of the r rating when jason uses guns there can be blood everywhere and when hank blows up it can be more brutal i feel like the only reason it was rated r was for some perverts to have some nude scenes the action just felt pg 13 for the most part

[@FriendlyBatDoom]

The whole show was bad. Dick was nothing like comic Dick. He acted like another watered down Batman. Just like Oliver in Arrow CW. Why is it so hard to let these characters be themselves instead of Batman? Also WTH happened to Rose and her brother after s2?

[@ZatannaFan94]

Facts hopefully Gunn does a better job for titans in DCU

[@Karlebow571]

I still don’t understand why they didn’t bring Batman in CW

[@Karlebow571]

@@ZatannaFan94hopefully James Gunn cast Jenna Ortega as raven

[@GrimNobody]

@@Karlebow571 WB is paranoid about brand fatigue and isn't a fan of Batman showing up in live action anywhere unless it's in a theatrical appearance. They apparently fought like hell just to get Batman's 5 second cameo scene at the end of the Gotham series.

[@ZatannaFan94]

@@Karlebow571 I see why you think that but it's too much like wednesday

[@Superwise]

The day we get a proper Teen Titans DCU movie is the day I will be dancing in the streets Saltburn-style

[@brandonkukumayeyi6048]

Facts

[@redrocksvlogs]

I hope they include Blue Beetle and Cyborg to the team. That's also one of the things why I don't like Titans and I'm not a huge fan of the lineup they made for the show.

[@solid9981]

I will hold you to this, @Superwise.

[@showaker4755]

the day we get ANY proper DCU movie at all is the day I will go streaking down the highway singing I want it that way. We were close with The Batman but the guys over at WB have their heads too far up their asses to stick with a common continuity so all the good stuff is in it's own separate continuity while the DCEU continues to flop.

[@adsdsds6190]

oh we will, have patience

[@makisbizarreadventure4669]

Great actors, great costumes, horrible writers. Dc has too many horrible writers in the room. Get comic writers to help adapt shit for crying out loud. But Curran is a great actor and I’m a fan now. I also liked his appearance in S4 with Tim

[@Iwillone]

Ian Glen would have been more convincing as Alfred instead.

[@kadegetslaid634]

The only reason i watched it was because im starved of live action teen titans, honestly could put it on mute for most of it

[@makisbizarreadventure4669]

@@Iwillone I agree. He was abit too old to be playing Batman here i feel

[@makisbizarreadventure4669]

@@kadegetslaid634 I can agree with this too. There are some great moments, like Robin vs Deathstroke, Jason Todd Robin anytime he's on screen, and moments like when Starfire burns Vox after she kills her son.. but man it's surrounded by 90% BS

[@SirDenzington89]

It’s so true. For me, I leave out the Snyder films but the main problem that keeps coming up with DC is the writing. The casting is perfect, the costumes are great, it all looks good but the writing keeps fumbling

[@TevyaSmolka]

This show had so much potential but they dropped the ball badly in my opinion.

[@cococadieux9911]

Exactly

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@cococadieux9911 indeed

[@Slade_Chill]

Badly is an understatement.

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@Slade_Chill agreed

[@diurtydantv8061]

I had no idea this show went past 1 season. I remember the first season came out, everyone said it sucked, and no one ever talked about it again.

[@cristobalbarra583]

its a bad show with a very few good moments or interesing concepts, but it mostly sucked

[@laughingkidd815]

The most frustrating thing is that there’s no reason we can’t have a bat family show be good. Even a low budget one. The most glaring issue is the people calling the shots on this and the arrowverse obviously don’t really care for the stories they’re telling

[@christianndukwe8994]

One thing I can stand behind is that Titans had a great JASON TODD(Robin), they just sold Red Hood. Like he was brash, but he was never Annoying, so I wanted to keep watching him develop

[@christianndukwe8994]

Like the early season 2 episodes where he would train with Dick, and I wanted to see him grow to be “the leader” of Gar and Raven, since he was the more experienced hero

[@KyleDevy]

I don't think they did. Even without comparing him to his comic counter part, which everyone is doing, I think he still comes up short. But hey, we all can have different opinions.

[@christianndukwe8994]

@@KyleDevy never might’ve been crazy, but there were points were I rooted for him and sympathized with him, so I consider that good, especially with someone of his character traits

[@KyleDevy]

@@christianndukwe8994 easy to make you feel sympathetic when the other characters bullie him so hard he wants to kill himself lol they didn't completely ruin him, but definitely not the best Red Hood. Although there isn't too many interpretations of him anyway.

[@ΧρήστοςΚάνδραλης]

You was like me at season 3 only Jason keeped me in the show

[@jim-bob3093]

Still bitter they made Jason bratty at all, he was a huge sweetheart as a Robin. Thats also, not quite Jasons motive for utrh, its what Bruce thinks is his motive. Jason outright ways hes not their for revenge on Bruce, cause he already forgiven him

[@randallflagg3700]

What Jason outright says is that he has forgiven Bruce _for not saving him_ , but that he hasn't forgiven him for not killing the Joker (something that Bruce almost did, but Superman managed to talk him out of it before it was too late). I agree that in the show, Jason's bratiness was over the top, he was really annoying at times... but I guess that they needed a reason for the Titans to dislike him. If he was a huge sweetheart in the show (which he kinda was in his scenes with Molly Jensen), then Deathstroke wouldn't be able to manipulate the situation so well...

[@jim-bob3093]

@randallflagg3700 "hes a brat cause the writers dont have the talent to write better" isnt an excuse that should ever be settled on. Especially when comics like White Gold Truth have a great stepping off point for natural confict. I wouldnt say jason wants revenge on Bruce cause Joker isnt dead. That sentence does not add up. Jason definitely wanted Bruce to see his way of Justice was to little to late for the victims. And wanted Bruce to prove he would right that wrong and pick family/loyalty over his morals. That much is clear from his monolog.

[@randallflagg3700]

@@jim-bob3093 >"I wouldnt say jason wants revenge on Bruce cause Joker isnt dead. That sentence does not add up." But that's exactly what Jason claims, both in the "Under the Hood" storyline and the "Under the Red Hood" movie... "Bruce, I forgive you for not saving me... but why? Why on God's Earth (breaks down the door) is *he* still alive?! ...Ignoring what he's done in the past, blindly, stupidly disregarding the entire graveyards he's filled, the thousands who've suffered, the friends he's crippled! You know I thought...I thought I'd be the last person you'd ever let him hurt. If it had been you that he had beat to a bloody pulp, if he had taken you from this world, I would have done nothing but search the planet for this pathetic pile of evil death-worshipping garbage and sent him off to Hell! [...] I'm not talking about killing Penguin, or Scarecrow, or Dent. I'm talking about *him.* _Just him._ And doing it because... because he took me away from you." If this was just about Jason wanting Bruce to see that "his way of Justice was to little to late for the victims", then he wouldn't have needed to list the other Gotham rogues (in "Under the Hood" he also lists Clayface & Riddler), because they are all murderers. It was just about Batman not killing Joker for killing Jason.

[@jim-bob3093]

@@randallflagg3700 revenge and justice are not synonyms, that why. If Jason wanted revenge on Bruce for not doing the murder, he would want Bruce to suffer his pain would be the end goal with Joker the instrument. Thats why that sentence and motive doent work. Jason can want revenge on Joker, the crowbar beating is a prime. And wanting him dead. He wants his justice. 'I would kill him for you, why wont you kill him for me?' In less words. The whole third act is a crossing of the A&B plot, jason business view of justice and crime fighting crossing into the personal. He wants his justice for himself, and Bruce is the gun so to speak. Its why Jason and Bruces conflict is so interesting they are freakishly similar but for on moral line. Bruce puts morals before family/loyalty and Jason dosent (well at least till DC tanked his character)

[@GrimNobody]

Who casted Joe Biden as Batman?

[@s_khan8693]

🤣

[@HerooftheWild]

Ha ha, so funny 😐 Aside from that, this is legitimately the worst live action Bruce Wayne. He looks way too old to be Batman

[@bloodstone1992]

obviously they wanted to pay homage to the animated series where Barbra Gordon finds out that Alfred is Batman.

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

That's Jorah Mormont to you

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Cast*

[@pepita2437]

I know people generally think Red Hood is supposed to be a twink. He is not. Dude is heavier than Batman canonically, Red Hood being 225 lbs, and 6ft, while Batman being 210 lbs, 6'2 ft. (Nightwing is 175 lbs, 5'10) Jason was a scrawny kid as Robin.Red Hood is not. I don't think they should have introduced the Red Hood storyline with Jason in Titans. But they could have made a very compelling RedX stoyilen, which could have tied in to the stoy of both Dick, and Jason.

[@stevenandrewchua542]

Honestly one change that I thought would make Red Hood work in this show was just making him the villain of season 3. Have Jason go crazy from all the gaslighting, torment, and emotional abuse that the Titans put him through to the point of nearly killing himself. He breaks, and becomes the Red Hood to prove that he’s a better man and a better ‘hero’ than they’d ever be. His plot would be to get revenge on the Titans, to the point of say, killing Hawk. By the end of the season, Jason is defeated not with brute force, but with some actual fucking compassion. Dick would be able to talk Jason down and get him to see reason. Then with the Titans acknowledging that they were ultimately at fault for the whole thing and that the way they treated Jason was completely terrible, he would be sent off to get the help he needs and also serve his time for what he did. As for where Batman is the whole time, just say that he’s been dealing with Ra’s al Ghul and the League of Assassins since season 2 and hasn’t returned yet. He could even come back at the end of season 3 and help turn around Jason. Edit: Since the Red Hood mantle might not work as well, Jason can be made Red X instead and explain that it was an identity that Dick once used to get close to Deathstroke for information or soemthing.

[@georgehernandez2156]

This Red Hood is also technically the best live action too lol. Because theres only one .

[@Karlebow571]

We have Jensen ackles as red hood

[@theotherguy21]

​@@Karlebow571not live action

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

WB are fools for never botherimg to make a Under the Red Hood live action film, or doing anything with the Batfamily in live action

[@theotherguy21]

@DavidMartinez-ce3lp the reason they haven't tried is because how much of a failure batman and robin was

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@theotherguy21 that happened a long time ago. They need to get over it.

[@lcjetton]

I will never forget my hype when i watched the mob bosses gathering and meeting Red Hood scene, i was so hapoy since i was finally getting a live action Red Hood and then he started torturing and killing innocents, killed Hawk, and was a junkie this whole time. It's like someone wanted to make sure we never got another live action Red Hood

[@justrandomstuff6828]

The moment i realized the series was going to be terrible was Right off the bat, a dark Dick Grayson who tortures and curse Batman? Then becomes Nightwing and goes after Deathstroke to kill him? That's not Dick Grayson

[@Demigah]

‘Dick Grayson & Friends’ 😂😂

[@Spidey-eq1eh]

If I could rewrite the show, I would just put the Under the Red Hood as a season 5 storyline. Replace Scarecrow with either Bane or Hush long after Jason's return post-resurrection by Ra's al Ghul's Lazarus Pit organised by Talia, Have Joker alive until the climax of the season, The Titans having a civil war basis along with some therapy sessions with Leslie Thompkins about their regrets and thoughts about Jason, Less grounded villains, Dick ignoring the fact that he regret his past actions as Robin, And have the Elite as the main Villains in season 3.

[@thewolf8660]

I actually don't mind them depicting a version of events where Batman kills the Joker to avenge Jason, especially as an elseworld. It's just everything past that innitial concept was butchered.

[@flowrebaz6189]

The starfire of this show never felt like the character.

[@HollowNaruto63]

Wb needs to get rid of that batman rule where he can only show up on movies Cuz straight up not being able to use batman killed this under the red hood arc

[@sacredbeastzenon]

They would've just ruined batman.

[@Joshcoshbagosh]

they could have just not done Red Hood tbf

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

To this day, I can't pinpoint whether or not the writers were complete edgelords who loved Red Hood and that's why they rushed to him, or they were complete edgelords who thought Jason Todd Red Hood is actually really stupid and set this all up as an excuse to make fun of how incompetent he is.

[@themancalledben2731]

Hey, the show has it's high points, like the fact that it can somehow in the intro alone make me fall fast asleep and sleep like a baby all night as long. Never actually watched a full episode because it's so good at it's job.

[@kfactor20]

Let’s be real, them rushing Red Hood’s story arc was basically an excuse to do fan service for the audience who wanted to see a live action Red Hood

[@VidoeGamesForEver]

Still waiting for an Live Action Film of Batman: Under The Red Hood

[@itzthundertv]

the closest thing is a fan made movie ive seen on yt

[@Michaelengelmann]

Seems like the whole secret identity thing doesn’t exist either

[@itzthundertv]

exept for nightwing which makes no sense cause with how much hes around the titans in normal clothes a random person could easily figure it out

[@Maruchode]

Literally the whole plot of tim was supposed to be him forcing his way in to be robin while Batman was grieving

[@werefox85]

Yeah I have to agree Titans started good but ended wrote by hacks that wasted the potential every character just not Jason Todd. I was hoping for a side story of Rose and Jason before both returning to Gotham for a elseworlds Titans 'death in/of the family' and THEN see Rose actually become Ravager, maybe the introduction of an Ugul and the lazurist pits. Maybe see Rachel become the darke purple cloaked Raven and use her powers to seek revenge against the Joker. But whatever on that waste of a What If.... The casting was great, the acting was good enough for me, I wanted to at least know more about the the characters. Who TF are Hawk & Dove? Titans was my first exposure to them and now I sympathize/get understand and relate to characters with that type of background. I knew about Donna Troy and Conner Kent, but not once in my 25 years of reading comic books have those names mattered at all outside of Titans/ Teen Titans books. The people representing those characters in Titans made Hawk & Dove, Donna, and Conner matter with strong performances despite the bad scripts. Same with the actresses portraying the sisters Starfire and Blackfire. The cinematographers and directors made every shot beautiful to me despite them applying the Zack Snyder make everything dark style it still look good. Actors who understood the roles, people behind the camera who got and created the visual style. The writing as so just so fucking bad. Spoiler to S1: Rachel having her heart ripped out, then crystalized and embedded in her forehead and thus becoming Raven was cool and a great origin story, I enjoyed the actor who played humanoid Trigan as well. But that never really went anywhere. Titans Deathtroke and Scarecrow were well acted, I liked their angry white trash Dr Light as a fresh takes in such a BLEH wrote universe was such a disappointment. The writers had decent enough starts to the stories of the season but the endings were such cop out shit writing. Jericho is a psychic/ghostly being in S2 GTFO . Same with Bruce Wayne trying to die from smoke inhalation, fuck Titans was such a waste of talent because of the shit writers. What a total waste of good talent all around, if the writers only knew who to end a chapter or story the show could have been great instead of the disappointment it was.

[@paulpatrong5113]

IMO you went too easy. As a Red hood fan I felt personally hurt by some of these decisions. 1. You have Jason the son of a single mother kidnap a woman's daughter and force the mother to be a suicide bomber to send a message in like episode 2. Wtf Jason in his wildest moments never did anything close to this. 2. Why do you have Jason who watched his mother die from the inside out because of a drug addiction becomes addicted to fear neutralising drugs. 3. Jason would never in a million years work under someone he viewed as evil, it would have made more sense to have Jason forcing scarecrow to work for him since Jason sees himself above the whole cat and mouse costume play after becoming red hood. 4. The Joker's dead and Bruce killed him, destroying any and all threads connecting the character to his original comic counterpart.

[@eonnexus]

I think the worst part about this storyline is that i can see SO MANY good IDEAS about it as an exploration of a Red Hood what-if storyline What if Batman gave in and killed the joker after Jason's death? 1. He'd likely give up being Batman permanently as he can no longer trust himself (something he admits to Jason in the original story) 2. Jason could likely still come back as Red Hood due to his own morals, but not have as big of a drive or plan surrounding it due to Bruce having avenged him already (which is what he wanted, as he already forgave Bruce for not saving him, just not for letting Joker live) 3. Nightwing taking up the mantle as Gothams protector and the rivalry between him and Jason as a result of their different methods. 4. Tim Drake saving Bruce's life when he realizes that he planned to kill himself, getting training and becoming the next Robin as a result. I can even see the "potential recruits" being a result of Bruce dealing with Jasons death poorly, and looking for something to fill the void, before Dick confronts him about it and they have to acknowledge his horrible grieving methods. All of this could make for a GREAT alternate Red Hood story, but the execution here was just BAD, like the rest of Titans was tbh, but there was SOMETHING there.

[@Demigah]

Titans was one of those shows that I watched at first out of curiosity, then I realised how freaking horrendous it was but couldn’t stop watching into season 3 😂

[@MEnterprises01]

Been watching it weekly since S1, a turd I couldn't look away from 💀

[@shinkaiatsuya950]

Dropped at season 2 couldn't take it. Hearing what happened at season 3 I'm glad I dropped it. Honestly I'm on Slade side in this one, they should not be a team.

[@samflood5631]

Yeah, after how the Titans treated Jason Todd, they don't even deserve the title of super heroes.

[@DZR-O]

The actor who plays Jason is good I just think he was WRONGFULLY miscasted, Jason is NOT a “pretty boy” who’s a little whiny bastard, again this is NOT Jason Todd

[@l8studios_]

Yeah Jason is a scruffy street kid

[@ethanrodgers2838]

@@l8studios_ I disagree. That may be true when Bruce first meets him. But after that, he was handsome and well groomed.

[@ethanrodgers2838]

Though due to the writing, he doesn’t capture the empath Jason was in the comics. Like he would let you live if you’ve committed a crime so long as you’re not a rap#ist or a mass murderer. Like protecting women from abusers was a big deal to him. This is exemplified in “The Diplomat’s Son” issue where they deal with a rapi## who got off because his father was a diplomat. Because of this, one of the women this dude SA’d committed suicide because she couldn’t take it anymore. Jason finds him, and when Batman arrives, it’s implied that he tossed him off the building. This issue arguably led to Jason gradually straying away from Batman’s no kill rule.

[@makisbizarreadventure4669]

I think he was casted just fine. He was not the problem whatsoever

[@DZR-O]

@@makisbizarreadventure4669 it’s cute you think you need to say “he’s not the problem” when that’s literally NOT what I’m talking about, and the way you’re making it sound like is that the actors themselves get to choose whether their hired or not just so you know that’s not how that works

[@TyvariusTravillion]

They could have fixed the Tim Drake and Jason story line with if they did something similar batman death in the family.

[@ironhide6357]

Batman SEARCHING for a new robin makes him sound like a fucking creep. Bro is looking for a orphan to turn into a soldier

[@crazyguy21able]

Because they have him as Robin for such a short period and Red Hood he’s still a kid not even a young man really. He wasn’t intimidating or brute like he should be. Red Hood should just not have been in Titans period.

[@eon001]

5:40 lol YES man looks like he would make a great Alfred.

[@ΧρήστοςΚάνδραλης]

Treu first time I saw him I imagined he was Alfred and not Bruce

[@jaden3602]

Isn’t Raven able to tell if someone is lying? I thought that was one of her empath abilities?

[@m.a.9648]

she says in one episode of season 2 that since she killed her dad, her powers have 'changed'. it's a dumb excuse but this show isn't known for its stellar writing lmao

[@jaden3602]

@@m.a.9648 ahh I see

[@JulianMack-po9fb]

If it's one good thing I could say about Titans Red Hood, is that his costume looks pretty Cool.

[@hallezavlick3203]

I find it so funny that arguably the one batfam character who should not be casted as poc was. A huge part of Tim's character comes from him being rich, white, and privileged. Whilst casting him as black is fine, I truly do not understand why they felt the need to change his backstory and make him poor. Whilst you have a bunch of characters who are canonically poc and often whitewashed, like Dick himself, the main character not being Romani

[@Drums_of_Liberation]

Last I checked, Dick wasn't 100% Romani. And even if he was, Romani can still be white. I'm Puerto Rican and I'm not brown. Does that make me any less Puerto Rican?

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

There was virtually no reason to make Tim black. They just felt like it. The actor isn’t even good either, so don’t even bring up “best actor for the role”, not even by a long shot. Race swapping is just dumb and pointless. No creativity comes from it. Literally could’ve just made a different character or something.

[@travit666]

Imo Curran Walters was just to short to play red hood properly. He was perfect for Jason before his death but they should have aged him up after his resurrection in the Lazarus pit so they could get someone taller and slightly older looking for red hood

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Too*

[@LokiStuartsson]

Red Hood The Fallen fan film is the best live action version of Red Hood I've seen. in that fan fil, he's legitimately intimidating and brutal. Check it out.

[@kels2624]

i dislike who they casted as batman like this version of batman is the worst i seen

[@Karlebow571]

They could’ve get Christian bale or Ben affleck

[@monobro141]

in a nutshell this is what I think happened to create this "Red Hood" 1 Google a picture of him 2 Google a short summary of him 3 Throw in the Joker and Lazerus pit 4 All done

[@lazerprime3253]

Imma be honest, when I saw clips of Titans, I honest to God thought it was Gotham Knights (the show), only to learn the Gotham Knights is separate and has nothing to do with the...Gotham Knights and the show titled Titans has all to do with the Gotham Knights. wtf

[@Ash-Winchester]

Why didn't raven just read jason's memories to see if he actually drew crosses on her mirrors? I know that sounds like a massive invasion of privacy, but it's also the best way to clear things up. Raven is a telepath and memories do not lie. She could've just been like "Prove you're not lying and let me read your mind to see if you're telling the truth". Jason would've been proven innocent in like 10 seconds but they have her screaming that she "knows for a fact he did" when she actually doesn't and has the ability to objectively prove to herself that he didn't do it.

[@liamstrack]

Well in a previous scene when she attacked him he says: "You need to get that shit looked at. Like a fucking priest!" Then the crosses on the mirror thing happens and I'm pretty sure she just figured it had to be him since no one else has ever basically shamed her for her demonic powers. Plus she didn't seem to like Jason to begin with. And when you don't like someone and something offensive happens, something someone previously insulted you over, you'd immediately think it was that specific person. She let her feelings cloud her judgment.

[@Ash-Winchester]

@@liamstrack That's another thing. Isn't raven supposed to be like the most emotionally stable person due to the fact that her demonic powers are tied to her emotions so she has to spend all of her time suppressing them? She basically lives like a prequel era jedi.

[@liamstrack]

@@Ash-Winchester I'm not too informed on the comics side of things but I think she isn't suppressing her emotions in Titans because she hasn't reached a point where she thinks that's necessary. She still thinks she can control them in her own way.

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

@@liamstrack in other words, she’s being an emotional piece of shit like the rest of the team. Great. Cuz that’s definitely what we needed.

[@lord_egg]

The thing I don't understand is that most on screen DC stuff is centred around and focused on the Bat Family...but pretty much all of them gloss over or do a terrible job with some of the major events. Like I don't think I've seen a good DC universe of movies/shows that does a successful job with The Killing Joke, Under the Red Hood, Death in the Family, Tim Drake becoming Robin, Barbara becoming Batgirl, Bruce becoming Batman, Bruce and Damian, Dick leaving and becoming Nightwing, Dick becoming Robin, Jason becoming Robin, Stephanie Brown (Just, like, in general). We've had good versions of some of these events but none that are all set in the same universe. The closest we got was Arkham but by the time that starts (With Arkham) half of the events have already happened and we only really got the aftermath of it all.

[@tokyoyung215]

When the Titans break Jason Todd Robin before Joker had anything to do with him😂

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

Imagine bullying a suicidal person for trying to do good and dying because they didn’t actually get told the reason Batman said “no” to him, as somebody who’s been suicidal I’m actually genuinely offended for once in my life

[@Edits.galore19]

I will always love this show but I do agree it does go of the rails a bit for no reason but this show will always have a special place in my heart

[@legogeneralgrievous3958]

Honestly same. People just have to realize it's a different take on the DC mythos and be happy that it didn't turn out like all star batman... Well ok...some of the show turned out like all star batman.

[@leonduncan3327]

Everytime i looked a Red Hood i was always like "Look at this Man!" But everytime i look at this version of Red Hood i'm like.... Who the heck is this kid? Cause even with that Red Hood outfit doesn't make him look much of an adult....

[@remdowers6765]

This little dude is literally KID HOOD! 😂

[@EliJackson-is8ks]

This red hood is like 18

[@EliJackson-is8ks]

Nvm he’s 17

[@ΧρήστοςΚάνδραλης]

​@@EliJackson-is8ks21

[@montenegroafro4454]

Please do a mini documentary/ explanation video of how the animated Teen Titans show faarrr outdid the likes of this live-action nightmare. I genuinely want to know what happened in the writing process that the showrunners said f*k it let’s just make teens in tights look cool!

[@samflood5631]

Hell, at least Teen Titans Go was a bit bearable at times than The Titans. At least the episode, Let's get Serious, mocked the whole angsty superhero trope

[@carltonpowell5313]

When the Lego Batman direct to video film does both Red Hood and the Batfamily better (Family Matters)

[@Ayyothatsbrandogaming]

Side note wasn’t there a point in this season where Bruce tried to kill himself or did I imagine that?

[@Ayyothatsbrandogaming]

I just saw the rest of the vid and it was mentioned so nevermind. I WISH I was tweaking when I remembered that.

[@gur3478]

I knew this show was bad but HOLY SHIT I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS THIS BAD!!! BRUCE KILLING THE JOKER LIKE WTF BUT THAT ALSO FUCKS UP THE ENTIRE REVENGE STORYLINE WHY WOULD JAY PICK THE NAME OF HIS MURDERER IF HE WAS ALREADY AVENGED???

[@zacharystevens3548]

In all fairness, in Under The Red Hood, Jason did want Bruce to kill Joker because of what he did, so I actually like how this version of Batman did that for Jason

[@devilsorchard1449]

I'm fully convinced that the philosophy of this show was, "How can we absolutely obliterate everything that these characters stand for?"

[@Tabletopcloud20]

I remember my mom telling me the show is good, and I didn't believe her, primarily because of how Jason Todd is handled. I'm a little biased since he's my favorite member of the Batman family, but still.

[@Hriata_Hlondo_macubex]

Of all the things they did wrong what i hated the most is probably Starfire, the Starfire i grew up watching during childhood was so sweet, charming and feminine, not this weird, rude and short tempered horny thing they created.

[@dynaguy3]

This show was like the Snyder movies. Cool visuals but trash writing and characterizations

[@booboo4ever24]

Snyder cut was good

[@TheBlujy]

@@booboo4ever24I mean, the visuals were cool. But the writing and characterizations? Trash.

[@aslumeinmate]

​@@TheBlujysuperman is bad and wonder woman is kind of a bot but everyone else seems spot on. Especially Cyborg. Batman is kind of like tony stark in that film but its easy to get behind.

[@aslumeinmate]

not the best versions of characters tho fs

[@Karlebow571]

I always thought this show is canon to DCEU

[@justinpullen1097]

* The essential problem is they rushed it. Jason didn't hide and plan and have his rage over the Joker still being alive fester. He was just the same whiny kid he was before. Not to mention that he's so stupid that he keeps working with Scarecrow despite knowing he's being used. * The worst aspects of Frank Miller's Batman were present in this version; let's also not forget he had Dick kill a wolf with his bare hands in the woods as a training exercise. * Season three really begged the question why this wasn't a Batman story. And yet it was still the second best of the show.

[@DCclayster]

Personally I love long videos in general. Maybe you could do a long video on something else, like "Titans doesn't deserve that respect" or something. The only season I sort of liked and sat threw is season 4, and part of it is it's the least Dick Grayson focused, so was less annoyed by his portrayal and felt more right being a smaller character who was the leader and telling Superboy not to be impulsive.

[@kfbeatforeternity5271]

If Jason somehow got addicted to a drug like that he'd more likely just make more himself. Writers often forget that Jason is actually really smart. Especially considering he used to use modified venom.

[@mcuuri]

No they have mentioned Ra's Al Gaul in Season 3

[@samflood5631]

Ra's Al Ghul, one of Batman's greatest enemies, is mentioned in The Titans?

[@itzthundertv]

@@samflood5631 for on little scene where v on of the cops thats with barbara alot says shes with some organization ( i forget the name) that was in gotham cause they suspected ras al ghul left a lazurus pit in gotham and in another scene where scarecrow was describing how he brought jason back and said " ras al ghul left a lazurus pit in gotham even batman didnt no about)

[@datboiwes3495]

The acting may have been good but the characters and story telling was atrocious and not to mention Starfire never acted like Starfire

[@tiegideon9816]

If you're talking about the ditsy TT starfire, that doesn't have to be the definitive adaptation

[@thefanofeverything5039]

2:39 isn’t raven like a living lie detector? Like one of her powers is being able to tell if someone is lying?

[@amossss]

One day.....one day we will get a proper Redhood adaptation, I just hope I'm alive to see it at this rate.

[@Revali69420]

Ngl the Tim drake Robin suit mad clean

[@thavinduwijesena743]

The showrunners of this show basically just took the names of these comic book characters and did their own thing which is why so many things are out of place and doesn't make sense.

[@thereverend6114]

You know, when I first found out who was playing Jason in Titans, I was like, wtf, a Disney channel actor? Fuck off? And then the episode with him as Robin came out and it blew my mind, he was perfect, even in season 2 when the writers were doing their damndest to ruin Jason as a character, he was still great because of how good Curran Walter's acting was. And then season 3, not even Walter's acting could save the character from that writing, just holy fuck. I didn't ever finish season 3, never will, it was a garbage show from episode 1, Garfield and Jason were practically the only saving graces and the show and they fucked both of them so goddamn hard. Side note: If you want to experience suicidal tendencies, look up what Titans did with Beast Boy

[@altalia07]

Bruce immediately looking for a new Robin is what Jason thought what happened when he returned 😆

[@i_bleau]

Donna Troy get electrocuted like she wasn’t an Amazon lol

[@ryanvandalinda12345]

Not gunna lie - I loved Iain Glen's version of Bruce Wayne/Batman. Was it the version of the character made famous in most of the best Batman source comics... No. Obviously not. But thats what makes it interesting. We've never gotten to see this older, relatively psychopathic, filled with regret, Chicago-accent, version of the Bruce Wayne character before.

[@Hylian_Glitchmobber]

Curren Walters would have been a great casting choice for Jason if only the writing wasn't so god awful. Titans was such ass, it kinda blows my mind how many people liked it

[@williBwavy]

the size of red hood helmets always bothered me

[@Michaelengelmann]

It was edgy for no reason. Cool suits for the most part. Wish Cory was orange. Jason’s actor was just too small. I imagine him being 5’11- 6’0

[@ewgrosslmao]

The show should've been call Dick'n Friends

[@roberthuff4763]

I was going fkn mad that i felt I was the only one who thought this red hood was the worst thing on earth lol

[@30__]

This should’ve been a movie from the start

[@Bee-gc2do]

Yes. Jason didnt feel like Jason at all. He felt too "hammy".

[@CoffeePotGames]

SUCH a fucking shame this is the first live action Red Hood we get. Could not have been more disappointed

[@gyroownstheworld]

Favorite part of season 3 is when Starfire is talking about Jason dying, and Krypto is staring at her like "what the fuck"

[@vebvin]

i hate when dc medias try and make jason seem like an “angry” or “bratty” robin. he was probably the happiest robin, which is what makes his death and return so tragic, since he lost that joy.

[@Agent-mb1xx]

We had multiple seasons of this shit when they could have made bank with a Deathstroke TV series, fuck this planet

[@goth.baby420]

or should've had their Jason trying to go after Deathstroke on his own. And they could've easily had Deathstroke / Slade return.

[@kfbeatforeternity5271]

I know I'm late to this but I want to remind everyone that Jason is extremely smart and calculating, even when he's pissed off.

[@Ellaisapotato]

GIVE ME A CORRECT RED HOOD 😭😭😭 0:19

[@declanaland1998]

I hate how they just made this an angsty teen drama!

[@lunartears6761]

Yeah, the first 3 robins were supposed be aspects of Bruce’s/ Batman’s character. Dick Grayson: Righteousness, and athleticism Jason Todd: Batman’s wrath and anger against the worst of crime Tim Drake: Batman’s intelligence and detective skills.

[@kentuckyfriedchildren5385]

Teen Titans was a big part of my childhood and Titans had potential to be a great show, I think the guy they cast for Dick Grayson is spot on, in the hands of better people, this really could have been special.

[@genoveus]

I like that they at least tried. He might not be a good Red Hood, but I kinda liked how Red Hood looked in Live Action.

[@mogamadrifaatabrahams8643]

Thats not beast boy thats tiger boy

[@lifeisberserk9566]

Literally only turned into like 5 animals when he should've mastered his shape-shifting at that point

[@samflood5631]

@@lifeisberserk9566 For f**k sake, at least Beast Boy in Teen Titans Go and Young Justice was able to turn into more than 5 animals.