RED KOMODO vs. SONY FX9 Comparison // Which lmage looks better?

[@76tygfgug]

Wery helpful as always - no water, just facts and shots in different environments. And thanks for adding c70 to this test

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks Igor I appreciate your feedback :)

[@FilmedbyFresh]

my FX9 has never produced an image as green as this one, I would curious to know your settings. Also were you doing a color space transform to match the footage across cameras?

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for your feedback. I just did a CST to Rec709 for each camera.

[@FilmedbyFresh]

@@pauleporterdp nice comparison overall 👌 were you shooting cine ei/ s log 3 or cinetone?

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks man 🙌🏻 I was shooting Cine EI / S Log 3 In the comparison with the c70 at the end the Sony didn’t have that strong green colour cast

[@jmasked5082]

@@pauleporterdp Hi Paule, thanks for the comparison. What do you mean it no longer had the green colour cast? What changed? I’m very surprised by the fx9 image, it seems unusual, like something is wrong here. The green on that tree looks very off, like they wouldn’t release that into the wild.

[@3ddesign216]

@@pauleporterdp FX9 looks better to me because of better dynamic range.

[@joenicklo]

Komodo definitely has a more natural look. Color overall looks better IMO. Would've been interesting to see some global shutter vs rolling shutter tests. I've found that when filming quick pans, handheld moving (walking) footage and generally anything fast moving that the Komodo's global shutter really shines. Since you mentioned the C70 I want to say that I've used both the Komodo and C70 side-by-side and the C70 is a great pairing w/ Komodo.

[@pauleporterdp]

Totally agree I also shoot a lot of sports and fast movement and the Komodo is great for that. Glad to hear that I’m thinking of getting a c70 as a companion to my Komodo.

[@MikeSpeckart]

As an FX9 owner, I completely agree with your assessment. I find the FX9 to be the true “red” camera due to the fact that every color correction starts with reducing the reds in the shadows. Followed by the green saturation. 😂. All that being said I don’t regret owning it. Considering buying a Komodo or KX in addition to for different types of work. Thanks for sharing!

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for watching and your feedback Mike 😎☺️

[@3ddesign216]

Hi Mike, of course your every color correction starts with reducing the reds in the shadows, but in fact fx9 image quality is a way, way more cinematic in feeling then Komodo's!

[@Christensoncardioclub]

I own an FX9 and a C70 and I also owned a Komodo for a year and over that year I barely used the Komodo because as a solo shooter most of the time it is not the best camera for me despite the great image it produces. I use the C70 and FX9 on interviews and I don't think its very hard to match them if you shoot a chart and use color management and DWG/Intermediate in Resolve.

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for your feedback 😌

[@eduardofierro]

I have a Komodo and yes I have done plenty of Sony stuff but Komodo to me finally they get it right. thanks for this comparison, well done.

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for your feedback. I really appreciate it

[@dr.nathaliepruschenk7256]

Totally the Komodo was Great to see them side by side thank you

[@pauleporterdp]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@lanemccall6787]

Curious why you didn't say which lenses you used on each camera? Unless I missed it?

[@pauleporterdp]

I used the sigma 35mm for EF. Using an adapter for RF to EF and E Mount to EF.

[@sonofthesea]

I agree with you about the accuracy of the RED colour science and the detail in the Komodo's 6K image. I own the Sony A7sIII, the Canon C70 and the Red Komodo

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for your feedback Dylan I appreciate it ☺️🙏

[@jaysnappsmediallc]

Which is your favorite of the three?

[@sonofthesea]

@@jaysnappsmediallc I just want to shoot everything in Red but actually the Sony A7s3 is my go to for solo operator bread and butter work, it' slight for gimbal work and the autofocus helps so much. I need to explore the C70 more and the RED I'm learning about and trying to encourage clients to see the benefit of...

[@peterbakerphotography8616]

I have an FX6 and haven't seen anything as extreme as the green cast from the FX9 in your video. Makes me wonder if something was awry with the white balance. Was a helpful video in seeing how the Komodo performed against the 2 other cameras, though so well done!

[@pauleporterdp]

Thank you so much 😊

[@johngood8742]

He uses S-Cinetone matrix. (filmlike)

[@TylerEdwards]

Great video Paule! All these cameras look great, but the FX9 was my least favorite in this video. Funny enough that the a7siii can match extremely easily to the KOMODO.

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks Tyler totally agree. Yeah I remember that you said that in your video. Interesting 😉

[@lew.parker]

Great content Paule! I would like to clarify if this was shot with the Komodo 6K or Komodo-X?

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks mate 😎 it is the OG Komodo so not the X ;)

[@Masistil]

I own Sony A7Siii, Canon C70 and RED Komodo. And Komodo batter camera when comes to image quality.

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for your feedback and watching 😌

[@esmpmedia8586]

New sub. Thanks for your work. I watched your other video pertaining to the RED Komodo with the canon 0.71 speed booster also. And that’s exactly the setup I currently have. Question, do you normally shoot your RED handheld or use any gimble? Any tip you can share for handheld, I would appreciate it or maybe you can make another video for that! 😊

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks mate am glad that you like it. Yeah I’m mostly shooting handheld or with the Easyrig. Once you have a balanced rig it’s actually very fun to use it handheld :)

[@joshkiddfilms1295]

Thanks for this! As a monstro and Gemini user, I’ve been wanting a Komodo to add to the fold. It seems like it offers quite a bit in iq. Something special tho to working with r3d over a non raw log like the fx9. Red colors after cst are just so good

[@pauleporterdp]

Yeah totally agree love the red Color Science 😌

[@ryanchk]

In my opinion the most pro of every sony's machine is auto focus. This is the one of my reason I still keeping A7s3 yet i use v raptor as my A cam. auto focus is really convince on most 1-man-band stuff, and most freelance videographer using sony also (only in my place maybe) ... it's easy to match footage, since other brand is hard to making those color un-natral like sony...

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for your feedback and I agree AF is great on Sony as is on canon

[@ronbackal]

Very helpful! I do think to get the Komodo-X. Or maybe the C300, I kinda dropped out of Sony in my opinion. And for pairing i think that the Cooke Mini S4 might be amazing (In one film I really loved, 'Fathers and Daughters', they used the Canon C500 and Cooke S4)

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks Ron, yeah the X seems to be a fantastic camera. I agree there is so much you can do with nice lenses and the cooks are just amazing. I love my c70 and also shot on the C500 they all have a very nice organic image.

[@kyleranney]

Lenses would very much change the look. Did you use the same lens on all 3? I don't notice much green cast on my FX3 or 9.

[@pauleporterdp]

Hi Kyle, yes I used the exact same Lens :)

[@ronbackal]

Hi Paule I actually came back to this video. Did you use RF lenses for the Komodo? I think it's probably something I can only truly see by renting it with different lenses, but it's interesting to see with RF lenses in comparison to something like cooke or zeiss lenses

[@pauleporterdp]

Hello Ron, yes I used the exact same lens which was the sigma 35mm EF which I adapted to the cameras.

[@klifestyle83]

which one performs better on log profile? and which of them would you recommed for a cinematographer

[@pauleporterdp]

I’ve You’re working on Documentary projects the fx9 if you work on narrative work the Komodo.

[@dathofilms]

Would be interesting to know what lenses did you use for each, was it all shot on same lens?

[@pauleporterdp]

I always used a sigma art 50mm lens on all the cameras 😊

[@JAXTWIN]

That Red Komodo is something else.

[@dr.nathaliepruschenk7256]

Exactly

[@pauleporterdp]

Yes totally agree 😉 thanks for watching

[@scottievee330]

As a Canon C70 shooter you confirmed my bias. Yeah, confirmation bias. That's it. Sony shooters will argue you can always color correct the image in post. But that's not the point here. All cameras look good nowadays. So it's more about checking function boxes and how you like to shoot.

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks Scott - exactly the camera that fits your needs the best is the right one. Every camera has good DR, Codecs etc to get the Footage you want to have. Even though spending less time to get my desired look is also a factor

[@TheImperialpictures1]

nice comparison, can you please try the phantom luts to your sony camera comparison? as their colors are their biggest Achilles heel. and is your image of the c70 in raw? since here we have less detail than the red. thanks

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks, no I don’t apply any Luts in order to give people an unbiased representation of the colours therefore I only use a CST in Resolve for a correct conversion. As described in the conditions I used 4k 10 bit 422 I would have considered sitting in raw but this would have been unfair to the Sony that doesn’t shoot raw internally

[@deepmaiti6482]

Almost same. Both are very good

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for watching :)

[@prismcollectionmusic]

Did you use one camera as a baseline? If you used the red as a baseline I'd expect it to look more natural...

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks for watching. I just converted to Rec 709 with a CST. So there is no creative grading applied. All Settings matched: ISO 800 / 5600k / Schneider Kreuznach Rhodium ND Filters in a Mattebox.

[@stephanes.]

3:31 your fans are everywhere 😄

[@pauleporterdp]

🤣 ha ha true was also surprised when that happened 😅 You know just go outside with a big camera and people go crazy 😝

[@stephanes.]

@@pauleporterdp but even crazier when it's you 🤣😎

[@pauleporterdp]

@@stephanes. could be yes 😂

[@christopherjahn8559]

That’s great thanks 🙏🏻 I preferred by far the Komodo image I was hoping that it was camera A ha ha 😅😊

[@pauleporterdp]

Ha ha thanks 😊

[@terovisual]

Same conclusion owning Komodo, C70 & C500MK2 and been using FS5, FX3 and FX6 on shoots. Sony just has over saturated unnatural colors and it makes the the post more complicated and you have to start by fixing Sony colors which ads one step to to the process and you end up loosing time...

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks that was what I was trying to say. As I’m thinking of buying a c500 Mk II this year how is this camera compared to Komodo?

[@terovisual]

@@pauleporterdp Well yeah there are no short answers to this one: I have more experience with C500MK2 since I have owned it since 02/2020 and the Komodo since 12/2022 and shot two Documentaries with the C500Mk2. In terms of image quality I prefer the Komodo and the R3D file. It is easier to edit and get the look you want.. Ergonomics and usability / IO are better in C500MK2. That nice FF look is nice. It is a versatile camera for run & gun and more crew operated jobs. Bootup time is a pluss for Canon. I´m not a colorist but in my experience it is easier to work with R3D file. It is more like editing RAW images. After all CinemaRAWLight is already partial debayerd in camera and 12bit. And the Canon file is more toxic to to you computer. I work both in PC with 5950X / 2080Ti /64G with Fast Raid M.2 drives and M1MAX and the issue is still there. Its just not possible with out Proxy workflow. I think the patent RED owns for in camera RAW is making things hard for other brands to get to same level. C500MK2 sensor is not the fastest around 15ms so the global shutter on Komodo makes all shots with motion more pleasing to my eye. The frame is just more compact and its better for stabilising in post. Usually getting better results in handheld shots than with Canon and digi IBIS . Still holding on to the Canon because of its AF, versatility and usability. And I manly shoot the XF-AVC Codecs for the reason of poor performance in RAW codec. But I think some of these are personal preferences and and would like to hear what thoughts other C500MK2 owners have? Keep shooting !!!

[@jessevvs]

To the point love it

[@pauleporterdp]

Thanks 🙏🏻 glad that you liked it

[@puddytat62]

The Komodo is unique since I believe it’s a global shutter. Your comments on the Sony are really Deja Vu. For over 30 years I’ve been dealing with Sony hype but always found them magenta and not very natural. I’d imagine the Venice is different but in general Sony cameras are not that natural but they do have a huge support network and the broadcasters live them.

[@pauleporterdp]

Hi Michael, yeah that’s true in the tv world everybody loves them. Exactly Komodo has a global shutter. Thanks for your comment 😌

[@jujufactory]

After color correction they all look more or less the same. The bottom line is that any modern camera will get the job done.

[@pauleporterdp]

True but some cameras are better suited for specific jobs than others

[@jujufactory]

@@pauleporterdpXLR inputs are a key factor. Any camera without XLR inputs makes any job more difficult.

[@pauleporterdp]

Well if you need to record audio in camera yes but if you have a dedicated person for sound or a professional audio recorder then no

[@NathanKatash]

if you used cinatone or rec 709 LUT then this is not good comperison - 99.9% use external lut to get the most from the sony - sony lut and internal PP is horrible and then the red will look much better it could be much more interesting to see sony with good lut the can really squize the mojo this camera have it was nice to post some footage for downloade

[@pauleporterdp]

Well then I could also use Luts that make any camera look good the Komodo, the c70 where is the point then about Color science?

[@NathanKatash]

@@pauleporterdp do you grade all the images from scratch and not use any conversion lut or tool? - sony make very bad luts there is many other companys that make grate luts for their camera system - s-cinatone or other sony pp for me is like "baked in lut" - when you use slog cine 3 you will use some kind of transformation to rec 709 in post - so why not use good lut for this? Lut that can take adantage on sony slog 3 - i shoot many times with slog 3 or internal lut baked in to the image and get amazing resoults (i also own arri amira and pocket 6K pro)

[@Clutchmillion77]

Who cares, just make a great film. Great films have been made with iPhones. It’s not the camera. It’s the mind of the person with the camera.

[@pauleporterdp]

Absolutely agree

[@Ash_4949]

@clutchmillion cameras that can shoot in low lighting is like a hack in cinematography. For a professional who is making a proper movie small luxuries really help.

[@sa.t.2507]

Here we go another amateur doing camera tests. You can never compare the image unless you use indentical lenses on both cameras to begin with. And with that I mean even if you use the same lenses, you need to use the same adapters for the mount since internal light hitting the adapter may give you less contrast since the light bounces around in there. And that´s just one of many points you are missing here. Ignore this video, short answer is that the FX9 is way better than the Komodo when used by a pro and not by an amateur.

[@pauleporterdp]

Oh man always these people that take camera comparisons personal. Thanks your comment only makes me happier 😌

[@sa.t.2507]

@@pauleporterdp nothing personal just another amateur spreading wrong information 😊

[@zootrh]

@@sa.t.2507 Although you are technically correct, Paule is comparing both cameras in real-world conditions, which means it is fine if he wants to test the C70 using a speedbooster. Honestly, I find more helpful tests like these, where you can see the real performance with a rec709 lut, than 30-minute reviews shooting charts with the same everything.

[@sa.t.2507]

@@zootrh what on earth are you talking about? You can get exactly the same test in real world conditions using REC709 and same "fun" video also even if he would have done it correctly by using the same optics as one should. You can't compare image characteristics by using totaly different lenses and optics, it will result in vastly different images. This is why we in the industry try to colormatch our set of lenses and filters. Just an amateur defending another amateur and spreading more wrong info.

[@zootrh]

​@@sa.t.2507 Shure, man, we are all amateurs, calmingly explaining another perspective to a keyboard warrior. Have a good one.

[@Makta972]

Canon C70 looks great here. Sony sucks as usual

[@pauleporterdp]

I also love the C70‘s image still a great camera

[@johngood8742]

You didn't get it.

[@pauleporterdp]

What exactly?

[@MrlegendOr]

For a change. Another Sony bashing video from someone who doesn't know how to use the camera properly. The fact that Sony's high-end and mid-range cameras are more successful than RED's isn't going to change because no one's buying these cameras to make nonsense vlogging-style video tests, but to shoot real professional videos in a professional environment. 🙃

[@pauleporterdp]

Well thanks for your comment anyway