Red Light Therapy Alibaba Review: Too Good To Be True?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

✅ If you're interested in buying panels from the Alibaba vendor discussed in the video, check this website: redlighttherapymachines.com or go to www.alibaba.com/ Before digging into this topic, if you're not familiar with my work, then check out some of my best red light therapy resources such as: ✅ My epic Facebook group on red light therapy and more: aferg.co/fb-group ✅ Full playlist of my 2022 body panel red light therapy comparison series with all episodes: aferg.co/RLT-2021-playlist - if you're short on time then check out the summary episode towards the end of the playlist ✅ My excel sheet for comparing different panels to their competition: aferg.co/rlt-data ✅ For my red light therapy buyer's guide blog, follow this link: aferg.co/RLTguide ✅ My red light testing methodology for reviews video: aferg.co/rlt-testing-method ✅ How I use red light therapy: aferg.co/how-I-use-RLT ✅ My playlist with many body panel and tabletop red light therapy panel review: aferg.co/rlt-review

[@SessleIsosceles]

Alex, do you have any testimonial videos about how you got into RLT , or what it has done for your life? I have been watching your videos to learn about RLT world and decide what's best but they are pricey, what I'm really after is a testimonial about how much life improvement this modality offers. To put myself into context I am after most sleep, recovery and fitness related help including pain (have had surgeries in the past) the claimed skin and hair benefits although amazing and welcome would just be secondary as I know these are proven but I am more interested in all the other benefits and if they stand up to the scientific claims. Can you please either say something regarding this, point me to a video you have on this or even make an in depth video on this ?! Thanks for your efforts !

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

@@SessleIsosceles Hey, great question. Have a look at this video to get you started - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXKXgnaemp2gmbM

[@sicksharkx92]

@@LightTherapyInsiders how much de EFM value for this?

[@metatronmen2431]

The problem is the US resellers charge you $1000 on top of the cost which is a robbery.

[@BenjaminHari]

Exactly! You're paying quadruple the price for English speaking customer service in case things go wrong. Just pay with Paypal and you're secure from anything bad.

[@cynimonnn]

100% - it's rare to see a cost difference of 100, most retailers are selling the same products for at least 50% more so it's worth the pain of going thru Alibaba in those instances

[@SunilKumar-ly4cl]

Exactly

[@nomadicexplorers]

I bought the Maxpro 1800 from alibaba during covid and it was $910 usd shipped. Shipping was expensive. It’s heavy

[@emilysha418]

Would love to see more of these videos comparing these Chinese panels

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Cool I'll do some more :)

[@phototristan]

They’re all made in China. It’s just that the companies spec out with the different makers according to their instructions.

[@korypostma]

Nice to see this, it would be nice to see a lot more of the Chinese panels and how they perform.

[@loriwysocki4203]

The majority are mass produced in China for private label. Only a handful of US and Canadian companies produce their own products.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Yeah I will see if I can get my hands on some more. As @Lori stated - most of the common panels we see are made in China and in fact coming from the same factories.

[@davemTX2023]

They perform the same!

[@maureengreen617]

Hi Alex, I can't believe I missed this video when you released it a year ago, but I LOVE Alibaba! Sure, it's not the western customer experience we're used to, but since most of the brand panels are made in China, I think it's worth pushing through the site to get a panel at cost. I ordered a tabletop panel, about 9" x12" from Shenzhen Azure Technology Co. for my vacation home and I love it. It has a unique "C"-shaped stand that pivots in every direction, so that I can suspend it parallel to the table and shine the light on my decrepit arthritic hands. 🙄 It was only $60 with shipping another $60 to Massachusetts. As you have dozens of quality panels, you don't have to settle for an Alibaba panel, but for the rest of us--- I definitely recommend ordering direct from the manufacturer. Thanks for testing the power of your panel. That's the only question I had about these things.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Glad it worked out for you!

[@tonycd2709]

Hi Maureen, my friend's sister has a similar problem for many years. I'm researching about this RLT. Wish you the best. Please keep us posted. Thanks.

[@maureengreen617]

@@tonycd2709 Hi Tony, I haven’t noticed any improvement in the arthritis in my hands unfortunately, but my full body panel at my primary home is amazing in other ways. I have more energy and stamina than I’ve had in years and my sleep has improved. LLLT hasn’t solved all my problems 😳 but it definitely helps a lot. Best of luck to your sister.

[@rasferrastfarian739]

Hey Alex - I'm like you, local, English speaking, warranty cover for peace of mind; costs a bit more - DONE! I took your advice and bought a Rojo 1500 panel here in Australia. Awesome service, great people to deal with. Thanks for all you do in this space!

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey, awesome work with Rojo! They have a great team behind them. Yeah I'm happy paying for those conveniences, but I understand not everyone is like that :)

[@radfaraf]

I don't feel like it's much a risk because credit card companies are pretty good at having your back if you don't get what you were promised. I ran into issues before with orders from aliexpress for other products, the support was horrible, but my credit card company made it right. And even though I did run into issues it's after placing many orders over the years, so only a small percentage of them had issues.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey good comment. I suppose at the end of the day it comes down to what the customer values.

[@shakazuluzone]

shocked this channel doesn't have more subs- great content

[@karencaron1]

So true!

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey I appreciate the support and the sub! I'm going to put a bit more effort into YT this year so expect to see more (and better) videos.

[@arnoldm889]

was emf bad with the panel?

[@TheXone7]

I think most of the LRT brands come from China, incl. MITO. But it is not worth the warranty issues to buy from China directly.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Yes you are correct.

[@Janisg616]

Similar size name brand panel costs not a little bit extra, but 2x or 3x. I ordered some very cheap and weak Aliexpress panel (it has 660 and 850nm LEDS and consumes only 25 to 30 W) and something similar to a belt, same wavelengs and power consumption also about 25W. I work from home and can use those products all day long (wile working on computer) to get some dosage from such low power leds. If I like the red light and feel at least some benefits I might be looking into similar Chinese panel as in this review. I am confident that those lights will have no negative effects on me, but not sure if it ill have any effect on me, therefore I will try cheap product to see if it is worth to spend 500$ on more powerfull cheap device that promises almost too good to be true health benefits. I think that 660nm and 850nm have the same effect no matter if the panel has a remote control and lcd screen or not.

[@CoconutPatel]

Oh man, sorry you had to go through a lot of trouble to get the panel. Appreciate the review that much more!

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Ahh it's all good. I'm glad I stuck with it!

[@MrLardobutt]

It's not that big a deal, I've ordered from Alibaba plenty of times before, if you know what it is and how it works then it is what it is, which is different, not better or worse, different

[@bonnie_nelms]

I’m with you. Not worth the headaches and stress of dealing with China.

[@chocolatefudge5263]

I dont mind paying premium for the service but not 500 to thousands more.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Fair enough! Thats why Alibaba is a good option for some :)

[@martinzubero9526]

Hi Alex. I just purchased the MitoPro Adapt 1500. Was wondering when you will release your video review of the series. Thanks!

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Oh awesome. Um it's still going to be a few weeks away unfortunately :( How are you finding it?

[@chrismarin5333]

Have you looked at shenzen idea light limited (the OEM MitoPro uses)?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

No I haven't, only Idoo Lighting (this video)

[@SG-vk4cq]

Idea Therapy Light from Schenzhen is a great light. The 300 max and 300 pro is great quality. The price point with shipping is much better than re-branded models sold here in the States. Markup is ridiculous.

[@kstephenson9465]

I bought my red light panel from Shenzhen company from Ali Express, took me 5 minutes to check out, arrived 10 days later, multi-wave, we tested it, loving it

[@natasha09179]

@@kstephenson9465did you pay extra for special shipping?

[@jingenchin2017]

Some Chinese made goods could be copied superficially the original ones, but the quality could not guaranteed.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Correct

[@kell7195]

Are you paying a "bit" more for a name brand panel or 100% more? I personally would do my research and buy1 for half price or 2 for the same price, why not it's made in the same factory you are just avoiding paying some middleman half the cost for the privilege of a branded box

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey. Yes some of the price differences are easily 100% or more. But this isn't all profit - it will be covering things such as marketing costs, branding and packaging, manuals, operation overheads, support costs, local taxes and regulation compliances etc. I know a lot of people prefer buying local for protection from local consumer laws, faster shipping, the better support and working with a local company. But for those that don't value this, then yeah you can cut out the middle man :)

[@K9Trixx]

Platinum LED boxes surprisingly all said Made in China.

[@theresajopson4157]

I too gave up on Alibaba. Going to check the other out. TY

[@hackstergirl5644]

I just ordered this panel but the version I ordered comes with 630nm, 660nm, 830nm, 850nm leds and it is 1500w advertised. With shipping to the US was like $435

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Let us know how you like it!

[@hackstergirl5644]

@@LightTherapyInsiders I have some numbers for you, I used the Killawatt to determine total power consumption at the wall and that is 580watts. I also used a light spectrometer to measure the wavelengths and they are 630nm, 660nm, 830nm, 850nm so is pretty spot on with they advertised. I can't measure light intensity as I don't have any instruments for that but at 6" it is pretty hot almost uncomfortable.

[@AllergicToFantasy]

Thank you for your great work! It's really helpful for those of us on a budget who don't want to buy the wrong panel. One request please... Could you please not use flashing lights in your data charts? It's very distracting and hard to focus on the numbers. Thank you kindly.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Thanks for the tip!

[@TheParkBadBoy]

I have a PlatinumLED BIOMAX 450 panel which I love but I'm now looking to upgrade to full body setup from a Chinese company. The PlatinumLED prices are just way too high! Its time the leading brand companies offer better prices for bigger purchases....Given companies like PlatinumLED are just a web front to a manufacturer in China with little overheads (e.g., no brick and mortar stores) their profit margins must be ridiculously huge! Perhaps pressure from the consumer going direct to the supplier in China will bring about change.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

It's definitely an alternative, so let us know how you make it out!

[@slowsky74ify]

Hi, I'm a LED light therapy enthusiast. I really like your videos. At the moment I own the Dr. Dennis Gross mask and the Dermalux Flex. Now I was thinking about buying a giant panel for the body also because I'm two meters tall. A 6000w panel with 1200 pcs 5w leds. What do you think? I am negotiating with a Chinese dealer

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey. Thank you! How are you finding the Mask and Flex? Your giant panel sounds epic!!! I have something similar but I use 4x BioMax 900s. You can see that video here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4CVi2qap9J5j7s

[@bigbankyb]

Did you have any volume loss in your face?

[@hussainamina]

Would be interested to know if if still works, 6 months on? (Did anyone use it after this review - if so, can you get feedback off them?)

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey, yeah I can't comment on this as I haven't used it since my review went out! BUT I know there are people in our fb group that are using alibaba/direct from China products. So maybe jump in there and ask them - facebook.com/groups/lighttherapyinsiders

[@davemTX2023]

I have some that are 4 years old - work perfectly- I just wanted newer models.They are the same panels, high quality

[@davemTX2023]

Mine came with a manual and was highly rated on Reddit and mine is almost identical if not identical to my Mito red at less than half the price.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Glad it worked out well for you!

[@alexwolf5547]

Which configs mate? Or the reddit link pls 🙏🙏

[@davemTX2023]

@@alexwolf5547 I tried posting the links and they were deleted

[@davemTX2023]

@@alexwolf5547 I posted the links but they were deleted for some reason

[@ireneamezcua9289]

@@davemTX2023it’s because he’s sponsored by all the other brands

[@automaton111]

Unless you are in the top 10% of income earners in the US, you can’t afford to buy this from a local company. They are basically starving us out over here. A house in the suburbs is almost $1 million now, not to mention healthcare costs, food prices, and everything else here. Yet wages and good job opportunities are low.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey, I'm sorry to hear this.

[@davemTX2023]

Try Texas, life is good. Lots of high paying jobs. Try DFW

[@JohnSmithh644]

Does it have the screw holes in the back so you could mount it on the biomax horizontal stand?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey, I think it did. I'll have to go back and confirm though

[@seeingyouontube]

AliBaba Express has shipping included in some products.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

yeah they do provide amazing value!

[@julieorr-sf5lu]

Hello, I purchased this panel on EBay for £280 with free delivery. Delivered in a couple of weeks. Do you know how much it will cost now to run for 30 minutes a time.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey, without knowing the exact spec's no I can't answer that sorry. But I do have a video coming out soon that looks at the cost of running RLT panels. And I can tell you now LED's are rather efficient so they don't cost much to run :)

[@julieorr-sf5lu]

Hi just to add to my message below. I bought mine last year, I have had no problems with it at all. I just stopped during it for a while because I'm not sure how much they cost to run with the high fuel cost. Do you have an idea on the cost of running this product say for 30 minutes. As far as purchasing from China I thought it was worth the risk for the savings I made, it was half price of other products.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey. I'll have a video on this topic coming out in a few weeks :) Be sure to sub and stay tuned.

[@prototype9000]

paying over 1200$ for a panel with red leds insane you could build the same for yourself for 10$

[@nomadicexplorers]

No you couldn’t. You wouldn’t get the strength and wavelengths for that at all let alone the circuit board, power supply, housing with control panel.

[@prototype9000]

@nomadicexplorers you sure as hell can dont need a circuit board either the leds are dirt cheap powersupplys can be free or cheap

[@alexpolidori6566]

The big brands just buy from China and personalise them, sell them for 5x the price

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

There is some truth to this, but it's not 100% accurate. I have a video on this out soon.

[@veganandlovingit]

they don't seem like complicated items. Can local electrical repairs fix them if they are faulty?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey, not sure if they can get the parts. It would be great to know the answer to this, though.

[@Bonnie-Lewis-Australia]

Great review and love the channel - haven’t reviewed the panels you can get off Amazon which is a joy to use compared to Ali - the prices on Amazon are lower cost compared to the others but are they any good ?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Will aim to do some amazon panel reviews :)

[@Bonnie-Lewis-Australia]

@@LightTherapyInsiders thanks ! We want to get one as I’m going down rabbit hole of red light therapy and seeing sun rises ! Thanks fir all your great advice babe videos

[@laurahome1588]

Thanks for the review.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

No worries!

[@siorai1]

Did you check emf ?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey sorry if it's not in this video I must have missed it. I'm going through and updating my spreadsheet (seen here - aferg.co/rlt-data ) so I'll be sure to add the emf data to this spreadsheet when I'm working on the data for the panel.

[@ItsAllGodAnyway]

I’d rather spend the money and have peace of mind. I’d worry about off gassing… emf’s…. General quality control…. Fires 😂…. I just want a solid company name backing a medical grade device.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Yeah I'm in your camp as well :)

[@Eteeee]

Mito buys from a company on Albabia

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Almost all panels are made in China.

[@rl4195]

Thank you for the comparison.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

My pleasure!

[@kmoliere504]

@Alex Fergus have you ever evaluated the large panels of American company EXESAS (JKG Industries)?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey no I haven't but I'll add it to my list for things to look into this year :)

[@austinfitness1]

Just looked at their website. Either they use midgets as models, or they super impose the model next to the light to make the light look much bigger than it is. That deceptiveness alone is enough to put me off.

[@fredli3357]

Is EXESAS (JKG Industries) USA local produced or import from China.

[@thea4442]

Great video. How long was the delivery from this company? I would greatly appreciate an answer, and of course I am subscribed! :)

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Deliveries vary wildly depends upon the product. Reach out to them ask.

[@mavolant16]

will you ever test the vital red light series (charge, pro, elite) just curious about your thoughts on their red lights

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey, I hadn't heard of them. But I'll do some research and look into reviewing one :)

[@jingenchin2017]

It is a common phenomena that the quality of Chinese made one is inferior to some extent, such as easily out of service and not durable, especially the electronic spare parts.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Yes, this aligns with my experiences as well.

[@davidtapscott1819]

O good here we go

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

I hope the video helped you!

[@chocolatefudge5263]

I wonder how long they last....

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Check this out - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHvIepykrJmhjtk

[@suzanneb4187]

Been a while but I found Ali Express much simpler to use..

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

That’s great!

[@JohnSmithh644]

Yes very nice

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Thanks

[@kstephenson9465]

Ali Express app is best, I’m in Australia and I buy most stuff from there, I get refunds without any hassle, sorry Alex, I suspect you are biased and wants to sell your local made RLT for commissions

[@lgpop3347]

Hi, it could be true, but I also have to say that Aliexpress and Alibaba sites are overwhelming, especially for over-analysing neurodivergents like me. :) I like the offers - when you know exactly what you want to order, I suppose it's fine. Plus, I got some suspect bills in my email and one "kind reminder" for a panel that I never ordered. I didn't react and then it stopped. :)

[@jimsmith4801]

No way> USA all the way!!!!!

[@chocolatefudge5263]

If they manufacture in the USA with American people ok

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Yeah I don't think any panels are made in the USA

[@Originalkimert]

It’s so simple ordering from Alibaba, not sure why you are making it so complicated.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Glad it was a great experience for you!

[@ttattx]

Where are the other panels made? I imagined they all made in china

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Some are made in Malaysia. But the key point with this video was that you are buying direct from China - instead of buying through a reseller.

[@prototype9000]

this video could have been made in less than a minute and have all the information you waited for

[@uupyerkilt]

$1000 plus really!

[@tiny2love]

I dont trust this

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

My video? Or the panel? Or something else?

[@tiny2love]

@@LightTherapyInsiders the panel and company

[@uupyerkilt]

How much each year do you get for promoting this scam?

[@ep-79]

What’s your problem

[@uupyerkilt]

so much Bs regarding this.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

??

[@Regirl75]

I’d tell you my dads story but you probably wouldn’t take the time to read it thus my dedication in finding the best RLT for myself. I appreciate these videos and the effort Alex takes in not only time but the research for each panel. If you want a debate please put all your findings of the ones you’ve researched and USED and let’s talk. If not, I’m sure there is a like minded negative group out there for you somewhere.

[@uupyerkilt]

no it is a scam

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

I don't know what your issue is??

[@maureengreen617]

It's not a scam. I have an Alibaba panel and it is quality.

[@MixtrisUFOimages]

how come its taken you 6 different posts to say the same thing? bored are we?

[@maureengreen617]

@@MixtrisUFOimages Life goes better if you’re kind to people.

[@MixtrisUFOimages]

@@maureengreen617 😇

[@uupyerkilt]

Not at all interested as this is such bull!

[@siorai1]

Which part ? Alibaba or red light therapy in general

[@AquaFrost777]

Then why are you here if you think Red Light Therapy is bs? Are you just bored and needed something to do, so hey, why not go dump some negativity somewhere?

[@uupyerkilt]

red light therapy is such bull

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Please explain?

[@maureengreen617]

Then why are you watching this channel?