Red: Living on the Edge | The Native American Manga

[@sandman45]

Near the end of this video there is violent imagery, and discussions of sensitive themes. While it is a very violent manga, I highly recommend to check out RED

[@memeontheinternet6232]

Nice video

[@porkbandit1107]

Big boss please tell me the name of the op you added and my subscription is yours.

[@alfan0079]

man this manga would be a great revisionist western movie. or series. this manga was also published in complete in indonesia

[@sandman45]

Song credits are at the end of the video

[@randoexpresso1105]

Don’t forget chat! Native History *IS* American history.

[@WerewolfofEpicness]

or is American history Native history ...

[@randoexpresso1105]

@@WerewolfofEpicness Can be either! We just must remember that the Natives where in America first. They are the fist Americans. The Natives. The originals of the land. It’s only right to refer to them as such.

[@user-wi9se5ll3j]

Nah, I say we’ve finally surrendered. We are not the same as the worriers who fought against America.

[@sakurakou2009]

In my opinion referring to natives history with conolial term like America is disrespectful in itself

[@randoexpresso1105]

@@sakurakou2009 That’s a very good point i didn’t consider! I know for many people I’ve talked to they usually say the real Americans are natives. It’s usually a way to acknowledge them and to say that “America” wasn’t discovered but has been around with people already in it. It’s to give ownership back per se. I did not mean any disrespect. My comment was supposed to highlight even the most tragic parts of history and to acknowledge the pain natives go through. I am not native so I will definitely be very careful and mindful when it comes to referring this historical tragedy as such. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with me. :)

[@ShinoYomo]

As a native, what I love about this manga is the revenge part because of the qoute "If you have revenge on your mind, don't forget to dig up two graves." It's a good way for people to understand that you can't go through life angry and bitter. I actually am ok with the serious and random humor here and there. It keeps you from being too down

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

Not many poeople understand that making a character serious and relatable doesn't mean he have to be devoid of humour *coughcoughSnydercoughcough* stupid allergies...

[@kalebsithnerd119]

It's funny, the reason why Puck exists in Berserk is because without him Berserk would be straight up depressing. We all need some good humor in our lives, for it's the one of many things that can bring people together.

[@WretchedRedoran]

Some of the funniest people I know are native, and my dad always told me that their sense of humour came from a place of coping with tragedy.

[@Half_Bl00d_H3R0]

Tell that to the Black Swordsman

[@ramblinbob1918]

Vengeance is ultimately an emotion of weakness, letting someone or something continue to hurt you after the damage has been done and waste your energy on endless recrimination that can't undo what was done or restore what's been lost.

[@greenghoul157]

American history is bloody and brutal it would be wrong to not depict that in a historical story, I'm impressed actually by how respectful and sincere this manga is about Native American heritage considering how isolated Japan is from the west

[@slimeprivilege]

Japan is isolated from the West? is this the 1800s?

[@quartizejose6254]

@@slimeprivilege They are still isolated as they focus more on themselves than look actually look further as they figure everything taught to them as they grew old is already good enough, some are still very uneducated in other things but most likely anyone who studies this well and is respectful in the historical aspects of a certain people is a person who TRULY loves history despite japan's weird study system

[@whathell6t]

@@quartizejose6254 Technically! They’re not that isolated since Japan has three native ethnicities: Yamato, Ainu, and Ryukyuans (Okinawa). And those ethnicities share the same ancestry which being descended from Yayoi migrants and Austronesian migrants from the Jomon Period (14,000 years ago). The Yamato is the most dominant group throughout the Japanese Archipelago but are letting the Aniu & Ryukyuans express more autonomy despite years of oppressing them and forced assimilation of their own brother tribes.

[@quartizejose6254]

@@whathell6t Cool to know dude

[@brotherhoodofsteeld.c.chap1917]

@@whathell6tThe USA was also extremely isolated from the rest of the world despite its diversity for much of history, so was Bharat to my knowledge. Britain too, to a lesser extent. Japan is still extremely insular despite being made up of three ethnic groups, I was stationed there.

[@martialartssoldier249]

He doesn't lie about the gore. To anybody who wants to know if it's true watch YOUNG GUNS. Lou diamonds Philips character Chavez E Chavez was based on a real native he portrayed and he talks about how the Troops stomped and smashed in babies heads and sliced open the women. I'm a Lakota/Dakota Sioux and I heard it didn't just happen with that tribe. They did it to all others. Just some history that should be out there so nobody believes it was a fairy tale on how the U.S. was created

[@BlokHeadAnim]

Some of the guys that did that even won the Medal of Honor for their 'service'. It's disgusting.

[@user-wi9se5ll3j]

Read Blood Moregian (can’t spell it right) but it goes into detail about smashing women and children heads in and being stomped on by horses. Plus it goes into detail on how to sculp someone’s head. The only bad part is the villain pedo the Judge.

[@dantewilliams2757]

If you think that’s nuts just read up on what the tribes were doing to the white back and to each other.shit was insane all round

[@HappyFunTimeslmao]

@@user-wi9se5ll3j I believe you're trying to spell Blood Meridian

[@user-wi9se5ll3j]

@@HappyFunTimeslmao yep

[@chaosmorris5865]

Kind of ironic a samurai was chosen to be the cultural ambassador of Japan in this considering the Bushi class was created/birthed to do the same thing to the Emishi that the Blue Battalion did to Red's people.

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

But then what? Have an ordinary Japanese guy be the Japanese representative? You do that mercenaries also contributed to American colonialism. The world isn't perfect.

[@facundopitton9011]

a failed samurai*

[@ManBung]

well it is fiction, also the manga feels like it doesn't really respect its own characters, mostly because it does the "noble savage" trope a bit too often and the subplots are all over the place...

[@leaf-on-wind]

​@@ManBungJapan actually did send 80 Samurai to America in 1860, weirdly enough. there's at least one photo that i know of, taken a few decades later iirc, showing a Blackfoot scout named Dog Child just absolutely dripped out & holding a katana. just goes to show, even my ancestors were weebs. i never had a chance.

[@chaosmorris5865]

​@@ibrahimihsan2090I love how that you're so eager to defend the horrid actions of the past that you just assume I'm demanding the work to be changed. I'm pointing out an irony and stating a historical fact for the unaware, calm down.

[@Bnuuy_syndrom]

I'm a native kid who enjoys managa and anime so this definitely right up my alley since I always want more native rep in media. Personally, I don't mind the gory depictions of Red's tribe getting killed off because most tribes have gone through some messed up wipe outs (or attempts). You never see things like this depicted in media or history in general so I respect the writer and artist for showing it in that light. This is definitely a manga I'm going to check out and share with my friends and brother.

[@MALICEM12]

Eh, I feel that's a dated take. Plenty of modern series talk about what happened to the natives to the point of cliche. Hell, people were doing the noble savage getting genocided thing all the way back in the 70s. It's not new by any means I just feel people like to forget that and focus on just old spaghetti westerns that didn't talk about it.

[@archlectoryarvi2873]

Man talk about underrated! This manga is up there with the likes of Rurouni Kenshin, Trigun and Hellsing in quality and yet barely anyone even knows it exists. Thanks for making what is probably the only video about it on KZbin and hopefully it will get a great anime adaptation someday and the recognition it deserves.

[@drstone2358]

This manga was crazy as shit this needs an anime adaption fr fr

[@decloudius]

for real

[@melonmusk8924]

It will never have for a reason. First, it's not very popular and doesn't have a big enough fanbase, Second the depictions of atrocities in it would make it never even be greenlit, because a big chunk of the audience would be enraged by it.

[@rodgerelledge4151]

Give to Quentin Taratino, and he'll make sure it gets a proper live action film

[@chaosmorris5865]

It can't get an anime adaptation today, Trapedinanotherworldwhereihavetosodomisemysistertogainsomebullshitpowerup57 needs an anime adaptation think of the poor one dude and his cat that read that light novel.

[@akavakar8593]

@@melonmusk8924then let’s make it have a big fanbase

[@zabirdy181]

Given how censored and overly sugarcoated american history is, the explicit gore and violence seems pretty much a necessity at this point, no sugar coating, not beating around the proverbial bush, THIS are the pillars where america stands today, blood, violence, genocide, racism and discrimination...

[@agitwap6413]

and now doing the same thing in Palestine, Lebanon too. they haven't stopped

[@dazai_.992]

I hope that when you talk about racism and discrimination, you mean the racism practiced by people of color and illegal immigrants against white Americans.

[@dazai_.992]

I hope that when you talk about racism and discrimination, you mean the racism practiced by people of color and illegal immigrants against white Americans.

[@whathell6t]

@@agitwap6413 Although, Palestine should still criticize Britain and France for the mess they created via the Sykes-Picot agreement. Those two countries managed to convince USA to clean up.

[@brotherhoodofsteeld.c.chap1917]

I think the USA has made good progress on coming to terms with its colonial past, and I think that despite everything the future is rather bright in regard to understanding the atrocities committed here. I’ve met many more bleeding heart whites speaking “in our defense” as if they’re one of us, than I’ve seen Natives burn the flag. That’s no doubt because of how transparent America’s genocidal past has been taught to American children in recent years, which is a very good thing of course.

[@DAngelo-x3p]

As a Native, I love this manga, it made me feel truly heard

[@samten6080]

As a southwestern Indian this manga sheds a tear from my eye, and all I'm going to say is...give this a damn anime. l don't care how offense it is, give this a short film l don't care bring this to the limelight because it made me feel proud of my people in a way l can not describe but this story is F'ing BEAUTIFUL.

[@samten6080]

I may be exaggerating, but..The manga is fucking beautiful.

[@kchanuwu6775]

​@@samten6080as a Canadian native, they really should.

[@samten6080]

@kchanuwu6775 No matter which tribe you are, this manga needs a anime.

[@user-wi9se5ll3j]

Dude… we’re Indians we don’t care at all! The only people who don’t want it, is woke people!

[@user-wi9se5ll3j]

@@samten6080what about Mexicans and other Latin/Hispanic people? Or as I say, “white men in red face.”

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

What I found great about RED is that it depicts a very rare kind of storyline: one where the protagonist is SOLELY fueled by REVENGE, its his drive, motivation and demise. There is no sappy ending where he realizes revenge won't make him better, won't bring his people back, his nemesis deserves a second chance, FUCK THAT! He is gonna kill the last bastard who wronged him even if its the last thing he does (and it is). And the people around him actualy respect and support that. They don't interfere, don't talk him back, they just know all those people deserve to die and if they are not gonna help Red, they might as well take the highway. Also, not gonna lie, that ending with the bullet and the armband was the most METAL thing I've ever seen! Insert "Brutal" meme here!

[@Busterdrag]

It kinda reminds me of Gun X Blade like that. The main hero there also never lets go of his goal of revenge, to the end. But he also has those around him anchor him so after he is done avenging, he still has a life to go back to, and they teach him lessons.

[@kennethsatria6607]

It really just depends on the kind of story you're telling. But I feel like revenge and killing out of hatred has its obvious implications and costs, its just that some people are free to consider it worth doing because they have nothing left.

[@TheYetixOUTx]

All of the world's history is caked with the blood of sin. You say Berserk is definitely fantasy but the Mozgus arc was directly inspired by the atrocities of the church and real torture methods that were used. Great video btw

[@DooDoo-f4v]

I'm still raging over the raids of 1050 on Limmenkainen and Helsinki. 4 years later the Great Schism happened. Screw the side that won. It's clear the Papal authority was corrupted. By 1122 they made it official by adorning the church with all sorts of questionable imagery. Hate the conquistadors too. Absolute pricks. I still laugh at the schmucks who thought they tricked some "Mayans" out of golden weapons with beads. The stupid sobs ended up getting copper weapons 😂😂😂😂😂 bunch of stupid sacks of dung. Obsessed with gold, but couldn't even ID the material.

[@Xx_SuperPenis_xX]

The practices of the cultists were also based on the witches sabbath in that arc Not to mention the slavic folklore inspirations

[@BradyRamaker]

Maybe he means the heavy fantasy aspect like the God Hand, apostles and other supernatural aspects versus "scalp hunters get killed by big gun"

[@AVClarke]

10:21: "Is it disrespectful to depict atrocities in such a simple medium?" Someone has never read Maus.

[@sandman45]

@@AVClarke that's true, I never thought about that

[@kennethsatria6607]

Read that in school, its kind of a non issue to use comics, people belittle its ability to illustrate and storytell too much

[@surrcram]

Comics as a medium highlight heavy issues in a vastly different lens than with film and its reputation as being a lesser medium for a long time until recently (considered for kids) give it a disarming quality that challenges perceptions in how stories could be told. Comic storytelling is super underrated.

[@MALICEM12]

The question still carries over, many Jews have asked if depicting the Holocaust in entertainment was respectful or exploitative.

[@Wormopera]

You can depict anything however you want although historical inaccuracy should be criticized unless it is done deliberately by the author who does not present his story as history.

[@Meno_menahz]

As a Navajo, I've never heard or seen a manga or anime that is diverse. Maybe i'm not watching or looking for it but, I can appreciate the overall plot, I think showing the bad in American history is necessary!

[@Kaji_95]

As a Native American, I'm glad this showed up in my recommended

[@user-wi9se5ll3j]

I just get anime, stuff about Hannibal Barca, and Tecumseh and Geranamo.

[@Pēpā_cheisu]

Same here brother

[@geckowins9652]

I just finished it last week, and it was awesome. One of the best stories I have seen. By the way you should read Dorohedoro

[@sandman45]

i'm about a quarter of the way though it rn

[@oh_possums]

dorohedoro is awesome

[@some_guy117]

This is literally the only video I can find about this masterpiece, Thank you for showing me something I always wanted but didn’t know existed. Also good video, keep up the good work

[@RhiannonSenpai]

6:01 You're the first youtuber that talked about Mukokuseki (nationless) characters in anime. Weird how no one else on anime youtube brings this up. Also great job on your review!

[@mari89146]

Same here. Its very refreshing because its strange how I never any big anime youtubers talk about what is a very signature design trope of anime. And while I'm not to saying that mukukoseki is inherently problematic, I wish more people will begin to discuss how mukukoseki often plays an unintentional role in the rampant racism in western anime communities, by creating characters with features (i.e light skinned girls with big round double lid eyes) that appeal to a lot weird alt-right white supremacists

[@RhiannonSenpai]

@@mari89146 They're just a very small minority, anime is loved by hundreds of millions worldwide.

[@mari89146]

@@RhiannonSenpai I guess we just have very different experiences in anime spaces then Edit: and also, just because they're a small minority, it doesnt mean it shouldn't be a topic that should be addressed.

[@RhiannonSenpai]

@@mari89146 I think it's addressed on twitter and especially bl-ck twitter, right? So it's been addressed. I think the Japanese should be the ones asked why they often choose ambiguous characters or down right wh-te looking characters. I think part of it is that they do it in hopes it will get popular with a w-stern audience (everything for that bag). That was especially important from the 70's until the 2000's (especially Masterpiece Theater anime series -1969-1997 & 2007-2009- anime series adapted from European and American books) when mainly the w-stern and east Asian countries were developed and had lots of money. It wouldn't have been as profitable to make anime inspired by or catering to an audience from the developing world in that time period. But in the 2010's and 2020's slowly the developing world is starting to catch up. That's why on Netflix there are African inspired animated series like Iwájú and Supa Team 4.

[@juan-ij1le]

@@mari89146 how would you address it?

[@CrowandTalbot]

Without reading it yet, it already sounds like an anime adaptation that paired with Cowboy Bebop showings would go so hard. A Toonami 2 hour block, Trigun, Red, Cowboy Bebop, and then Outlaw Star would be a core staying up till 2 am on a school night memory

[@The-Black-Death]

Yo how has this NOT had a anime adaptation? This could be one of the greats for sure.

[@Godzilla00X]

Started reading this morning and cant put it down. Incredible manga, wish more people knew about it. Thanks for helping me find an awesome new manga

[@TeaSerpent]

The gun shown in the Manga is called a wall gun as they were meant to be fired from a fortified position (obviously way to long and heavy to use without being able to prop the front end up on something. In China they would tie a strip of cloth at the end and have another soldier stand in front and put the barrel on his shoulder and use the cloth to secure the barrel when there wasn't a wall to prop it on. In the Asian context they were often referred to as Jingal guns by Europeans. They were commonly used in China and Southeast Asia. They were also known to the Japanese, but never seem to have become very popular there. Instead the Japanese experimented with shorter wider bore, arguably less effective but way more iconic looking, guns for their big matchlocks.

[@djangoleonhardt337]

I'd really like an animated adaptation of this manga, it's really good

[@Serpillard]

Getting this recommendation from someone called "sandman" is very funny when you've read Jojo Part 7.

[@luisreynamboarcos2958]

I found this manga years ago in a pirat site. God, I'm happy to know it got an official release, I'm buying it. This manga is great, not perfect but very intense at all moments. I think that no matter what tone your story takes, moments like that must always be depicted with recognition of the real horror behind it, even if it's offputing. Genocide is by far the worst thing we humans have done to each other and we need to see just how desgusting and abhorrent it is, specialy from the victims persepctive to never, ever do that again. Sadly it's just a dream right now (as the meadle east shows, it's easier to teach to hate than to forgive), but one me must certainly fight for.

[@rubyredlotus]

This sounds like a great manga, but as you've observed it's a hard sell in the states. Over 100 million killed in genocide but people would rather not disturb their sleep by thinking about it, much less the modern implications for the people of the 560+ tribes that still exist under the "guardianship" of the same colonial state responsible for that loss of life.

[@jeremiahtorrevillas4396]

Thats more than mao and wrld war streak of deaths

[@thelostcosmonaut5555]

The tribal warfare waged between Native groups prior to the arrival of colonists is just as gruesome. The names commonly associated with tribes also highlights the bad blood between these groups. Such names as Apache "enemy" ,Sioux is short for "Little Snakes" given to the name by the rival Ojibwe tribe, etc...

[@citrusblast4372]

@@thelostcosmonaut5555that doesnt justify taking their worlds from them

[@thelostcosmonaut5555]

@@citrusblast4372 they did it to each other. Acting like they were peaceful hippies and the colonists were always the aggressors is idiocy.

[@phantomkelvink4225]

Claiming over 100 million is quite an exaggeration, don’t you think? I understand the point you’re making, but it’s important not to use such figures without first checking the actual statistics. The numbers matter, especially because history is complex. I’m not denying the injustices done ranging from broken treaties to the displacement and suffering of Native Americans a significant portion of the population perished due to diseases brought by European settlers, rather than deliberate extermination. It’s also important to recognize that Native Americans, like any other people, were not universally peaceful; they had their own conflicts and rivalries. While I’m not excusing the actions of the U.S. government, it’s essential to distinguish these events from genocides like those carried out by Pol Pot or Hitler, which were systematic, calculated attempts to wipe out entire populations. I grieve for what been done but I must emphasise it’s not genocide.

[@jabbb]

Damn, this looks good. I'll give it a read. Thanks for the recommendation and the video, really well done.

[@beelzemobabbity]

As late of a comment as this is.. im so so happy to see someone talking about red.

[@itryen7632]

I'm always stoked to see native american representation in media that isn't reduced to "The desert guys with the funny hats and face paint"

[@sacta]

I binged it in a couple days. Loved it. Thanks for the rec! I'll do my best to find a way to support the author and the translator

[@intithesungod234]

i would love to read more manga with minority leads with an author who knows what they are doing ive seen racism done in anime go horribly wrong so man times (86 lol) and red is such a good example of how much a little reasearch and understanding can go a long way

[@persomiissleepy]

I feel like this is a manga me and my late grandpa would bond over. He wasn't into comics, but he was a huge fan of westerns and stories like this remind me of him.

[@themaestro2572]

Currently reading this manga right now, and it's EPIC! I'm on the River Arc where Red is fighting the A Squad on the steamboat. 7:36 For anyone wondering, the Dawes Act of 1887 allowed the Cleveland Administration to divide reservation land into individual allottments for Native Americans with the intent to assimilate them into American society while disbanding tribal authority.

[@Danial_Duval]

As a fan of gritty westerns, thank you for this recommendation.

[@Contender-y2q]

Red is my favorite manga and General Blue is such an intimidating villain. I’d love to see an anime adaptation of this!

[@dankuya]

Can we stop with the Mr. Popo slander he's based on a Buddhist deity not black people

[@sloantempest9421]

We got Native American manga before we got GTA 6

[@lucascoval828]

Interesting.

[@TheAnomaly00]

I mean it came out before GTA 2, so...

[@esmeesmeralda701]

I’m so happy this was in my recommended

[@decloudius]

did we just become best friend?

[@ottagol1985]

As someone who is a fan of "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly", I'd love to see more of this manga. If it were to get adapted as an anime, don't be surprised if this only gets released in Europe, since Westerns are still popular over there.

[@BradyRamaker]

This manga gives me Blood Meridian vibes but the Glanton Gang gets merced by a cool protagonist

[@user-wi9se5ll3j]

I thought they get killed because the Judge sold them out to the Indians?

[@PoochieWooch]

Anyone who knows me knows I have a deep fascination and respect for Native Americans and Samurai. Well, Red isn't the only manga story that has Native Americans and Samurai as friends. That would be Sky Hawk. The relationship Japan has with Native Americans isn't really something that is discussed as much as it should.

[@TeaSerpent]

Are talking about the way Native American peoples were portrayed in post war fiction in Japan? Or is that a reference to Japan requesting specialists from the Bureau of Indian Affairs to teach them modern methods for dealing with the "Ainu problem" (ie to teach them how to stick them in reservations and take their children away to special schools to strip them of their culture and then send them far away to be servants when they graduate).

[@PoochieWooch]

Neither I'm talking about Ranald MacDonald. He was half Scottish and Chinook. Although he was considered an outsider, He became well verse in Japanese and met Samurai. Keep in mind that this was a few years before The Meji Restoration. After Japan ended isolation, he became an English teacher there. Another example is Native Americans owning Katanas. Yes, I discovered this whilst I was still in high school, which turns out not only Chinese came to America during the gold rush a lot, Korean and Japanese came here too and some of those Japanese were former Samurai which they gave away their weapons for sale which in turn is how the Indians got them.

[@TeaSerpent]

@@PoochieWooch Awesome, I've read about him before, but honestly I had completely forgotten about it. Yeah some native Americans had katana. They also made armor using Chinese coins in the pacific northwest. There are also a number of historical accounts of castaway Japanese fishermen being washed up on shore in places like the pacific northwest as well as places like Ecuador and Peru with varied outcomes ranging from integrating into the local culture and becoming head of coastal native fishing village to being taken as slaves by the people who found them.

[@PoochieWooch]

@TeaSerpent Holy hell, you know about the Coin armor thing. How come we've never met each other sooner. Why can't we be friends.

[@TeaSerpent]

@@PoochieWooch LOL, I've seen it in some books about Native Americans on the northwest coast. But I really only remember it from spending large amounts of time trying to find Chinese made examples of coin armor and only coming up with examples from Native American contexts. So far I haven't been able to find evidence of verifiable historical examples from China. Oral traditions in Chinese martial lineages say that it was a thing. But who knows? Unfortunately Chinese arms and armor and Chinese martial traditions are far far less documented than Japanese arms and armor. Honestly there is arguably as much (and academically speaking higher quality) documentation on north American native arms and armor than on Chinese examples. The other problem is that armor just didn't survive in general. For one thing the government generally did not tolerate civilians owning armor. They would generally look the other way if you had a sword or spear or a few weapons. But getting caught with armor was big big trouble. Obviously coin armor as used in China would be covert armor kept by civilians, probably wasn't that common, and if the person needed money badly or any of their descendants did at any point, it would get cut apart and spent. There are well attested types of armor in use in sections of the military up into the early 19th century that have no surviving examples. As you can probably tell I'm more focused on Chinese folk traditions, especially those related to martial arts. But I find all historical cultures interesting.

[@milkitea669]

Thank you. I needed something new, and can probably get my husband(a filthy anime only consumer) into it because he's been getting into true American history as well as his heritage.

[@cheesydawg371]

This sounds pretty badass. I can't believe it doesn't have a physical English release. I'm sure the novelty of an old school lookin manga with an Indigenous lead and an American setting would be enough to sell plenty of volumes before people know how legit it is.

[@Byakko_Byakuya]

Finished this yesterday. Damn, this was such a fun read.

[@gypsybeast219]

I feel devastated reading the last chapter

[@justincholos.balisang6884]

This and also the manga where a Japanese-American becomes the President

[@aaronkelly1762]

4:06 Is he as bad as Judge Holden from Blood Meridian? … Who am I kidding, no one is as bad as Judge Holden. Wait, he cried? Definitely not as bad as Judge Holden. Dude still has a sense of humanity.

[@sandman45]

@@aaronkelly1762 actually this is kinda a spoiler but he never did cry

[@aaronkelly1762]

@@sandman45 Huh. Interesting. Guess they did cut ties to humanity.

[@oddish3022]

I like how Japan can talk about my heritage but can’t admit what atrocities they committed in WWII, Like kill/torturing women and children and especially what they did to Native American marines and soldiers in the pacific theater.

[@juan-ij1le]

What do mean by this

[@machinismus]

Japan isn’t a monolith. there are a million individuals who do and think different things. It’s not like the government wrote this manga.

[@MALICEM12]

​@@machinismus Japan may not be a monolith, but by God is it close as just due to asian societies everyone is very much a conformist. And in general, yes, the Japanese very much go out of their ways to avoid self incrimination. They looooove to talk about WWII.... until they get involved in the story. Then all of a sudden they want to stop and talk about something else. They don't show that sense of shame the Germans do, they just try to make the Japanese empire esoteric knowledge

[@juan-ij1le]

@@MALICEM12 do you think the author of red is like that

[@mr.mortalitas]

Still one of the greatest manga iv ever had the pleasure of reading all these years later

[@sasquatchkidPS3Xx]

After reading Blood Meridian, Or the Evening Redness in the West, and going on a deep dive about the real life historical accounts that inspired and were interwoven into its brutal, painfully vivid narrative? I am glad to see another work that touches on the subject. If you read some of those accounts from the mid to late 1800’s it’s terrible. It’s just terrible.

[@kieran465]

You might have been alluding to this and I didn't catch it, but I do think there's a shared suffering that native people and the Japanese have been through. Makes perfect sense for me growing up in Japan with the shadow of WWII you might feel empathy for others who've experienced other atrocities.

[@MALICEM12]

I feel like comparing the Japanese failing at their empire and being punished for it to the natives is laughable. That's like comparing the Nazis losing to African slaves. Not to mention Japan is pretty infamous for just sweeping it's sins under the rug after the war and flat out not even teaching it sometimes. Japan turned WWII into a tale of "undeserved suffering" rather than to actually feel any guilt for what they did to Asia.

[@CeliMew]

Japan literally has their own version of Natives known as the Ainu who suffered due to Japanese colonization so don't even compare their suffering to what the Natives of the US had to go through because it isn't even comparable in the slightest

[@theotherther1]

Haida artist Michael Nicholl Yahgulaanas has written a graphic novel, also titled Red, in a style he calls Haida manga. His art beautifully combines manga style with traditional Haida/PNW artwork. I think it would be a good idea to look into his Native American manga as well.

[@avi_s0ncin0]

Red just seems like a Native American version of Guts. The revenge mission, the progressively more-violent character development, and on top of that, the self-destructive/ overpowered weaponry (Berserker Armor for Guts and the revolver for Red).

[@Henbot]

Wow. What an interesting gem. I will be getting to reading this shame it hasn’t got more views . Disappointing that it hasn’t been picked up at all but actually wouldn’t surprise me because a lot of Americans don’t want to face the actions but also forget the main inaction of genocide wasn’t done by the kkk but The US Calvary

[@GeminiNES]

Is it me or does the main character look like Dark Schneider from manga Bastard

[@orange4191]

This manga is great

[@cadubem10]

Mostly bad? Psssh. Ignores history? Please. Watch more movies Western is the greatest and most important genre of cinema, and a good half of it is historical revisionism and honest examinations of the myths and values of the U.S., the rest of the world, or even observant social commentary of the current time they were released, all that done through the vehicle of an eternal frontier. The fact that they lost popularity is due to, more than anything, them not being considered flashy anymore for audiences with their dopamine receptors destroyed by artificial cartoony lights bleeping in a million different colors for a single action sequence. But good westerns are still made, such as Wind River, Sisters Brothers, Hell Or High Water, Godless and many more But I see you picked some overlooked classics to mention so i'll let your comments slide

[@TriOdy]

If you think about it, the Western never died out or became unpopular, it just morphed into different shapes. The settings and characters may look different, but the archetypes, themes, and structure have never left masterful and respectful cinema. Breaking Bad, a neo-Western, stands as the highest praised show ever to air on TV. Trigun (no biases here from me), Cowboy Bebop are space-westerns and withstand a legacy in their medium. Samurai Champloo is a western in all due right. Katanas are Japan's equivalent to revolvers of the Old West, and it follows the same Western themes of revenge, respect, and redemption. In fact, you can find curious articles about Wild Western flicks inspired by or with similarities to an equivalent Japanese samurai movie. I feel like any legendary piece of media has some homage to pay to themes and tropes set in the first western-style flicks, and RED pays homage in full to this. Of course, not all great films/shows/comics are Westerns, but if you go through many classics you'll find a correlation.

[@ManBung]

@@TriOdy yeah also modern spiritual westerns like justified (tv series) are quite popular and depict a new "wild lawless frontier"

[@facuuu2809]

Westerns being a deconstruction or a social commentary is more smth from the second half of the 20th century since the first ones were rather nationalistic propaganda to justify the expansion of the U.S to the frontier

[@BradyRamaker]

I think the vid is referring to pre spaghetti western, the "white hat" era that spun the white cowboys as good and the natives as savages. This era was populated by cheap, disposable crap filmed in a week or two. They saturated the market with westerns in the 50s and 60s that would make modern superhero shows look rare by comparison. They were largely garbage, and the genre collapsed. Now you'll get thoughtful westerns but the heyday has been over for 70-80 years.

[@brotherhoodofsteeld.c.chap1917]

Westerns were arguably the first “epics” of cinema in the classical sense.

[@christopheroconnor6830]

The Brave Samurai, Red marches on the enemy.

[@actually_a_circle]

Reminds me of a western called Red Son. Oh well he said it. Im an indian and I think it's ok to be upfront about history. It's better than the alternative.

[@rohantherevolution]

looks like the art style of Trigun. Hope this gets adapted.

[@URnightmares162]

I need this manga, it seems cool at first glance

[@greygremlin1248]

Mark Twain once said write what you know I don't mean this as disrespectful just a fact but Japan is a very isolated country and as rare as it is to see a manga introduced diverse characters I don't think it's fair to hold it to such criticism. It's true that in America we have plenty of diverse characters when it comes to pop culture especially in cartoons and comics but very rarely do we ever see other characters in pop culture other than black and white and Hispanic. The point is is that I don't think it's fair to hold a country to a social standard when they have absolutely nothing to do with us.

[@DecafisHere]

I am so happy this video got recommended to me. It truly is a one of kind manga. It has flaws like most things but I love this manga

[@not_your_basic_olive]

Yes I had a "friend" recommend this. I think I read the first 4 chapters or so. I think I was bothered by the gratuitous violence and the cliches so I didn't continue reading it. And this is coming from someone who read Berserk multiple times. I might give it another shot.

[@redroverredrover679]

I hear Panopticon in the background and I am here for it

[@andrewfernandez9674]

This, Wolf Guy: Wolfen Crest, Achilleus, and Holyland are my favorite hidden gem otaku eyebrow-raising manga

[@SlapstickGenius23]

There is also the original Wolf Guy manga, which isn’t as gory as Wolfen Crest, but deserves an English translation. It’s written by the dude behind 8 Man and Genma Wars, with a famous animator doing the art.

[@LoraCoggins]

I'm so glad this video was recommended to me.

[@ogdolphin6736]

Oh I can't wait untill my man reads "Dog Ningen" it's a masterpeice

[@coyoteblue4027]

What is that fucking wicked song in the titlecard sequence?

[@southloopsox]

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[@someminorities]

i’m very late, but it’s at the end of the video. it’s called “dance on the sun” by red scalp

[@shekel_shovel7837]

Thanks for the recomendation

[@serpentnightrevival1151]

I've been sold

[@mlgswagmaster8913]

I read it and was overall really happy, but while i did feel sad by the end, i was happy by the journey i went on and wished there was some epilogue of the aftermath

[@gabrielmendes3767]

There was no reason for Red and Angie to die. Even Ieroh and the priest have some actually strange death scenes however their deaths at least make sense in the plot. A revenge path always end with you digging two graves, but is strange when the story go this far

[@Elricsedric]

This looks super cool. First time I've heard of it, seems like an fun western

[@Hakuru15]

Dude your the only one that has like made a video about this manga super appreciate it man, and hopefully everyone picks up on this manga, I actually love every single character

[@dankbudew4830]

The last thing I ever expected KZbin to recommend me……….😯

[@maxiargos1971]

If we are talking about good western movies. I gave this one a change but "The Quick and the Dead" By Sam Raimi. All you need to know is that the main character is a female gunner out to take revenge on a man who wronged her. The less said the better.

[@MALICEM12]

I tire of this bitter feminism. You never see the opposite

[@k.Miles789]

Japan got lot of influence from other country, but not diverse, because some mangaka don't travel outside of there country like araki.

[@DrRESHES]

honestly it reminds ne a bit of Jagged Alliance 2 (1999).

[@GoldGladiator5]

Whats the name of song from 11:25 ???

[@hansolobutimdead]

Red Scalp- Dance on the Sun. It's the first song he lists on the ED

[@BorkBiscuit]

Hey I'm new to reading manga, where can i find an english copy of this?

[@sandman45]

@@BorkBiscuit it's not officially translated, you would have to read it on sites like Mangadex

[@starhigh6663]

When I was a child (non-american) I thought Native Americans had been wiped out. Ig American media just made it seem that way?? It wasn't until I read Shaman King, a shonen manga with a whole Native American tribe playing a crucial role in the story, that I understood that no, that culture is alive. They made it through ethnic cleansing. In today's reality, that makes me hopeful.

[@brotherhoodofsteeld.c.chap1917]

We will never die out. Keep in mind that there are many mixed-race American Indians with very African and/or European features.

[@RaijinX9Mokuzai]

​@@brotherhoodofsteeld.c.chap1917 We Must Secure The Future Existence Of The Red Race.

[@snu283]

I've been trying to find the color panels for this manga, such as the one your thumbnail, do you know where you found it? Which site? Sorry for asking

[@sandman45]

i got these from a torrent but i think mangadex has them

[@snu283]

@@sandman45 thanks chief

[@Sheepcakezzz]

I wanna read it but I can't an english version to purchase

[@sandman45]

@@Sheepcakezzz it was never officially translated you need to find the scanlations

[@Vibewealth541]

I’m 17 seconds in and I hope this is what I think it is

[@LACHRYMA]

im so glad this came across my reccomended omg

[@FlCl3000]

This looks awesome. Brutality moves a story like this.

[@decloudius]

we need the anime adaptation 4 sure

[@FritzMonorail]

This seems like the kind of thing I’d want to own.

[@ohdeer3763]

It's so interesting to see a manga about indians. They rarely make an appearance in the medium.

[@VLAD-yu6ul]

Two minutes in and you had to say no more, I am reading this

[@nintenzo64]

Thought that was panopticon! Good choice! Nice video!

[@annemihara5830]

please good sir will you be so kind to tell me the song you used in the OP ? begging and praying. Amazing job by the way, great video !! update forget it I shazamed it it's "Dance on the Sun" by Red Scalp goes damn hard like the rest of this video

[@sandman45]

@@annemihara5830 the credits are at the end of the video

[@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist]

Cool story, but I confess, I mainly remember this one for the crossdressing gunslinger-psycho. Bro was getting close to an unholy marriage of Judge Holden and Astolfo lol Still felt bad for the dude in his backstory when I read it as a kid, irredeemable deeds notwithstanding.

[@gary7846]

You're the only one to talk about this

[@hansolobutimdead]

I csnt find the last song you list, Prayer to Mother by Green Elder. Where can i listen to it?

[@BeastMaster46]

"A manga that not only stars a person of color..." Sorry, I didn't know that Asians collectively got their POC card revoked. I know I'm going off a tangent here but I actually despise the term "people of color" as a "politically correct" term. It's essentially the same as using the term "colored person" only that you swapped the words around in reverse order. I was under the impression that the reason "colored person" was such a problematic term is that it is utterly redundant as a phrase. I mean, aren't we all colored? Is white not a color? It's not as if being Caucasian magically makes your skin transparent or something.

[@midshipman8654]

I dont like it cause it doesnt get to the heart of the matter. Whats actually meant isnt that they are darker or of a certain color, but that they are of a non dominant less prestige ethnicity. While PoC implies its about mere pigmentation.

[@sugarzblossom8168]

But a lot of people aren't white or black or yellow or red. Yet people still use those

[@Tine_of_Nice_Dreams]

Language is always evolving and even if it's not perfect, the effort to be respectful is a well meaning gesture. I think "racialized" is the term I'd like to see more of because it cuts away the specific aesthetics and points to a broader concept- that is, that the dominant group sees itself as default or race neutral and anyone not neatly fitting that expected standard is then assigned a racial identity (and whatever baggage comes with it). It's a more flexible term because for example, it can describe the dynamics of visibly Japanese people in Japan (not racialized) and visibly Japanese people in the USA (racialized), which are both simultaneously true.