Red Wing 1178 Nailseat Pecos + Lucchese Buffalo Ropers Update +

I jumped over to the work side of the Red Wing world to grab the 1178 Nailseat Pecos in Brown Boomer. They have the style of the heritage boot with the comfort from the work line.
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[@thoscook]

You all realize the 1178 and 1155 nailseat boots along with the Irish setters 866 and 877 are some of the truly original redwing workboots that have performed in rigorous conditions in just about every trade/craft, ranch/farm, heavy industry setting known to man, right? For longer than any of us have been alive these boots have performed as WORK boots. I cannot understand how "walking 5 miles in NY city" proves anything about the durability of a boot that remains unchanged for over 70 years. They're more "heritage" than work for a reason. They haven't needed to change that heritage because they're a real, generations proven, WORK boot.

[@CJCook]

Really? 🤔

[@rjskum688]

Bro, they are wearing old plastic water bottles as flip flops now in the name of fashion. I'd rather they wear these than those.

[@JohnnyRebKy]

These are what I call the original Redwings. I started wearing them in 7th grade and I’m now 37. I buy a pair about every 6 years and wear them every single day. The good news is they last a long time and are tough. The bad news is they are always stiff and uncomfortable when new. It takes quite awhile to break them in. Once broken in they are like a old pair of slippers 👍

[@1SixpenceFan]

I just bought a pair of 1155 boots a week ago. Years ago my uncle gave me a pair that he had worn for 20 years and they were very comfortable. The new boots aren't as comfortable as the old boots yet but I'm sure they will be after they're broken in.

[@CJCook]

Yeah, they will get there. Congratulations on the new boots!!

[@antekknoll6568]

What are the 9inch pecos #S supersole before the 11inch, late 80's early 90's Thanks

[@Aleks9x19]

Another great thing about the Work Line is that they have a 30 day comfort guarantee!

[@wbybanz47]

Hi, I have that same style I bought in 1995 and I am still using it for my travel and special functions.

[@CJCook]

I bet they look amazing now!

[@andreweverson1304]

i actually work at the red wing shoe shipping company. i have multiple pair of red wings but have yet to buy the 1178’s. i plan on making these my next purchase.

[@CJCook]

They are SUPER comfortable!

[@anonosaurus4517]

I am going to pull the trigger on a pair of 1155's after the first of the year and I also think I'll buy 1178's later in 2022. Glad I found this channel.

[@efanshel]

Unfortunately, the 1178 boots are discontinued. Most unfortunate, they are the only boots from Red Wing I have owned. (3 pairs). Any thoughts on the red wing 1132? Thank you....

[@CJCook]

That is really really unfortunate. Two good things about the 1132s: One, they will be comfortable with the Super Sole. Two, you can resole them and place the Nitrile cork or Chemigum sole if you so choose.

[@ccinhou1]

Very cool ! Researching Red Wing led me to your KZbin videos which also led me to the Road Ranch Boots - I have a pair of Red Wings and Road Ranch Boots now ! I love both pair. Thank you CJ for helping me find my style and boots !

[@CJCook]

You are welcome! Thank you for watching. Which Ranch Road boots did you purchase?

[@cc-pk1pc]

@@CJCook I purchased the Maverick in brown and ordered just ordered the Honcho Harness Boot - brown as well. I am considering one more purchase - the Gunner in Cognac or the Calhoun in Cognac.

[@CJCook]

@@cc-pk1pc great choices!

[@MrJmo1293]

I almost got the 1178 Pecos a year back, but I went with the OG 1155 Pecos instead - I thought the western heel suited the boot better than the block heel, but hey I live in Texas so the boot fits I guess. Makes sense why they would be low-stock or MTO in Brooklyn; at my local RW stores, they have TONS of Pecos in stock, in almost every size and width imaginable. Couple months back, I had a cobbler narrow the boot shaft, so now they fit better under my pant legs.

[@CJCook]

That is so cool! I like the 1155s. I would replace the composite heel stack with leather. Narrowing the shaft is a GREAT idea. How are your boots looking now?

[@MrJmo1293]

​@@CJCook Had no idea the stacks were composite instead of leather, but that makes sense for a work boot. Might change that when it's time for a resole. Looking great! They're mostly a weekend work boot, but they've had plenty of action. I'll take some pics and DM you them on IG if you want to take a look.

[@CJCook]

Yes, please! I would love to see them!

[@justinmoore9351]

Could you please tell me more about what that cobbler did? Did you take a before and after picture? Thank you;

[@LifeIsGood2017]

Yay! She got her phone! anything else I can hashtag for her? lol good looking boot. thanks for sharing

[@CJCook]

Yep...Finally! She was probably the only kid in her school without a phone, hahaha!

[@lookthroughmycamera]

Hey CJ! What do you think about the #2204? The Rio flex. I went to go look at them and they look awesome in person. I thought about getting them for work but they didn’t have my size. They told me they couldn’t order them either at that time.

[@CJCook]

Hey Mike, They are not my style. They look comfortable but I have not use for them. Yeah, I heard Red Wing hasn't made any new work boots this year.

[@CocytusTenebra]

I got a pair of 1155 almost new in a thrift store, in my size, paid 5$ for them... i was so happy... now they are my favorite boots.

[@CJCook]

Yeah, those are nice boots!

[@CocytusTenebra]

@@CJCook That was a dangerous deal, now i want more and more Red Wings...

[@jamessneed8789]

Once you get your Pecos broken they're going to look great.

[@CJCook]

I agree. The images I have seen look 😍

[@maxpenn6374]

There is a detail of the buffalo hide boots you display at 8:56 that I like. It's the subtly ornamental pull on strap. I had a pair of brown Pecos that were lost in a move. I found a pair in black to replace them but I really liked how my brown ones were broken in and had enough wear on them to look better than brand new.

[@CJCook]

Lost in a move? Ugh 💔 so sorry

[@msantosmxmx]

Right now I'm wearing a 1177 (not 1178 but 1177) bought them in December 1992, and after almost 30 years they still very nice.

[@CJCook]

I bet they look amazing!

[@msantosmxmx]

@@CJCook They do!!! This style is no longer available, bought them in Eagle Pass Texas... and currently living in México.

[@davidallen346]

Roper boots are the best and most comfortable western style of boots you can purchase both for work and casual

[@jeffwoodard]

1155 vs 1178. Which is more comfortable?

[@harrisonkoff8805]

Great video. Did you size up or down from your Iron rangers? I wear an 8.5 IR but a 9.5 running shoe what would you guess my pecos size would be? Thanks!

[@CJCook]

You would be a 9E.

[@harrisonkoff8805]

@@CJCook Interesting. Why do you say E width? I went to my local redwing store and standing on their machine My size range was 8.5 D, 9 C, and 9.5 B. I have a narrow foot for a guy but not extremely narrow as well as high arches and instep. Also my IRs are 8.5 D. Additionally I tried to order the 1155s but they said they were unable to get ANY in. I have since emailed customer service hoping to get lucky.

[@CJCook]

@@harrisonkoff8805 most of the heritage Pecos are E width

[@sheetmetalworker3826]

What do you think would be more comfortable for walking all day on concrete the 1105 with supersole and poron insole or the 1178 cork sole with poron insole?

[@CJCook]

I think the Red Wing 1105 would be more comfortable.

[@bootsbrandreviews4633]

Nice video! Keep em coming

[@CJCook]

thank you!

[@SungtaLiu]

I need to wear bootcut jeans when I wear nailseat cuz the shafts are a bit wide. Do you think Levi's 501 also works when wearing nailseat?

[@CJCook]

Yes, 501s would work

[@gregrodriguez3169]

So, before I got hooked on the Heritage line (thanks in large part to your super cool videos 😆) my only pair of RWs were my 1178s. And so - I was so excited to see this review pop up! Great review and comparison!!

[@CJCook]

Cool Greg! How long have you had your 1178s?

[@gregrodriguez3169]

I had a pair in college, but lost track of them. In a fit of nostalgia, I purchased my current pair in 2014 (manufactured 02/14). And over the past couple of years, I’ve added: 2950, 9414, 8086 and 8062. 🤓

[@SungtaLiu]

I am thinking about getting a pair of 1155. Thanks for making this useful footage. I wear 10D in Red Wing mac toe heritage series. What size of Pecos would you recommend I to look for?

[@CJCook]

The Pecos run narrow so a 10E would be ideal.

[@mikeogden5256]

Red Wing Pecos 1178 is a winner 9EE for Me

[@bryanallen9851]

Ok i have been curious for a while if you don't mind me asking what do you do for a living?

[@victoryveshinojosa]

I've been looking but no luck. Where could I find older/vintage Red Wing model numbers. At Goodwill I purchased some Red Wing (Nailseat?) roper boots. Same color as the boot you have but these are older. They don't have the Pecos branding and the toe is not as chunky as the current Pecos line. It has a narrower toe. It looks like a straight up regular roper boot with the oil proof soles that come with the current Nailseat. Model # is 1922 or 19221. On the outside of the right boot Red Wing 83 is stamped on the shaft. Not sure 83 is the year. My guess is that these are an early 90's boot. Anyhow, they are badass. Was just curious to gather a little more info on them. I wear a 8.5EE in the Iron Ranger but these are size 10B but and me perfectly with thinner socks.

[@CJCook]

eBay has a great deal of vintage Red Wings

[@NoblemansXchange]

Those are great looking and look extremely comfy with the cork soles those are the best for city walking in my opinion. I am finding a happy "in between" place on heel heights (1 1/8") when it comes to western boots. Too tall can get unstable once leather starts to break in and loosen up you may roll an ankle easier lol. yes it is important to get a nice snug fit for pull ons as there are no laces or straps like engineers have. Thanks for getting me interested in western style boots I am currently sanding/scuffing the leather soles on my Tecovas that came in today. Also I should be receiving some Rios of Mercedes from Ebay tomorrow. Cant go wrong with brown westerns that leather looks gorgeous when broken in! Talk soon Brother!

[@elchango8862]

What’s the size difference on your Iron Ranger vs the Pecos 1178? I know my IR size and trying to figure out my 1178 size.

[@CJCook]

If your Iron Ranger size is 10.5D. You should purchase an 11E in Pecos.

[@k8cking]

Thought I was a boot freak😉😉 now know its a not so unusual sickness

[@CJCook]

Hahahaha! Welcome to the club Cathy.

[@eddieortemar2021]

that type of boot comes amolia or is bought at the number

[@shermanclark9757]

I really like those 1188s. Hope they rerelease those in the future.

[@mikeogden5256]

That’s a true go to war boot

[@Donmoonu9000]

Did you change the sole on your 866 with a leather sole? Thinking bout doing the same

[@CJCook]

I replaced with nitrile cork

[@BlackBird-fb8im]

hey guys, sorry for the ignorant question, can supersole redwing be resoled? thanks.

[@CJCook]

Yes, a Super sole RW can be resoled.

[@petersilecchio4417]

Hi. Is the Poron Insole Removable in the 1178? Thank You. I just found a pair of 1178 in my size new.

[@CJCook]

No

[@petersilecchio4417]

@@CJCook Thank You. Very Helpful.

[@mikeogden5256]

Great motorcycle boot

[@chadriggs3322]

I like the color of those pecos. Do you know where I can get them with that color leather? The nail seat boot pecos they have for sale on their website has a much darker brown.

[@CJCook]

Before the pandemic Red Wing stores were able to order these. You may be able to get them drop shipped from a Red Wing store in the south.

[@charlesbronson240]

I feel like these are more of a heritage boot than a work boot.

[@CJCook]

Yeah, I agree. Somehow the 1178 fall on the work side.

[@kshugart70]

Mainly compfort. I've worn mine everyday for about a year and a half. The soles wear down pretty quick but overall they work real nice as shit kickers

[@ashtraybabyhead9126]

These are real work boots. I’ve worn them since the 8th grade and I’m 19 now. I work in the cattle industry as well as the restaurant industry and the same pair has held up and been super comfortable

[@thoscook]

Lmao what? These boots helped build the U.S. Who are you people? This is a quintessential work boot.. mind boggling comments..

[@ashtraybabyhead9126]

Username yea seriously. These people have never been to south texas.

[@petersilecchio4417]

Hi. How you doing today. Could you Please give your opinion on using a removable insole in the red wing iron rangers or the heritage Pecos boots I know they have a leather insole that is non-removable. By Putting in an insole how does it work with the caulking that is used that moles around your foot as you wear the boot

[@CJCook]

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[@petersilecchio4417]

Hi Thank You Very Helpful.

[@CJCook]

You are welcome

[@whatmeworry2006]

I am looking for the 1178s and can get to Brooklyn. Can you please tell me which store helped you find them?

[@CJCook]

Red Wing on 4th Ave on Brooklyn

[@whatmeworry2006]

Thank you CJ for your prompt reply - from your newest subscriber!

[@Rickydarula]

Everybody in Texas has a cousin from El Paso! Lol. Whenever you make it to Austin, bring your 1178’s and lets get a beer and some tacos CJ!

[@CJCook]

Hellz yay 🍻

[@thinhphan2669]

Would you mind me asking the hem opening of your pants, CJ? I'm looking to buy one of these and I normally wear Levis 541 so I wonder if the 541 would fit these ropers. Yours is the perfect fit. Straight leg and there is no imprint of the boots shaft at all. Thanks in advance, CJ. Big fan of yours from Vancouver, BC!

[@CJCook]

Hello, The pants I wear have a leg opening of 8 inches. I don't like skinny jeans or pants.

[@thinhphan2669]

@@CJCook thanks CJ. I agree. I just turned 30 this year and I’m starting to appreciate the straight leg fit more. I guess I’m over the taper/skinny fit of my young and dumb 20s lol. Btw, I really liked your new green boots from the Shop Vancouver. Awesome boots. I’m actually a cobble myself. If you’re ever back to Van again, check out the Quick Cobbler. The owner is my friend Patrick and he’s pretty awesome dude. We can help you with your resole need if you’d like. Anyhow, thanks again for your reply! 🙏🙏🙏

[@CJCook]

@@thinhphan2669 oh really? I will be there next month!

[@thinhphan2669]

@@CJCook drop by if you can. Bring your boots in too. :-)

[@sergioflorean2189]

Hi i always find your videos very helpful to buy boots, i have a question if im a 9D on lucchese, ranch road, tecovas, which size do you recommend for my first red wing pecos 1155 or 1178? Will it be the same as my iron rangers? Thanks

[@CJCook]

I would recommend 9E

[@sergioflorean2189]

@@CJCook thank you!

[@sergioflorean2189]

Pd be a boot

[@sergioflorean2189]

Hi sorry, just one more question, after a year of wearing this boot, would you recommend them? Do they age beautifully? Im about to hit that buy button.

[@CJCook]

@@sergioflorean2189 Yes, they are very comfortable. They age like the 8111s.

[@telace1]

How do they fit...is it OK to buy a half size down

[@CJCook]

they are narrow. buy a half size up from your moc toe size.

[@kevinwilliams552]

I've never gotten over a year out of any redwing boot

[@brandoneklund]

Awesome review! Would you say these boots are sized more like an Iron Ranger or a Moc Toe? Thanks bud!!

[@CJCook]

Thank you. Size as you would the Moc Toe.

[@teacherpaco]

@@CJCook I too wear an 8.5D IR, but an 8.5EE in 1907s. Would you say these run smaller in length than the 1907s? Should I go for the 8.5EE or a 9E?

[@CJCook]

@@teacherpaco I think an 8.5EE would fit you. You may need to remove the insert break in the boot first then add the insert later.

[@petersilecchio4417]

Hi. Great Video. I just bought the Justin Gideon 7170. American Made. Great Price. From Shoebacca. It’s a Roper Style with Rubber Outsole. Love those Lucchese Ropers. Do you ever use Shoe Trees?

[@CJCook]

Hello Peter...thank you. I will check out the Justin Gideon boots. Yes, I am a huge fan of shoe and boot trees. I need to buy western shoe trees for my Lucchese boots.

[@petersilecchio4417]

CJ Cook Hi Yes I Noticed the Lucchese Toe Area, The Boot Trees are Expensive but keep the toe area In Shaoe.

[@rizqivergara9499]

Is redwing 1178 steel toe?

[@CJCook]

No the1178 does not have a steel toe

[@TheMurkot]

I love 1178 Pecos, and i have one! ))

[@CJCook]

They are great boots!

[@panamabrad]

Hey CJ.love the pecos.i had to check my 1155 date. 6/16 funny my birthdate is 6/16/66 even though I know the 6/16 is month and yr kind of cool coincidence lol I really like the poron and boomer leather.i think I oiled my first then used mink oil since.I wear these the most since I moved to wedowee Alabama on 30 acre farm.i wear these more in cooler weather and my ariat for work around farm and luchesse for more weekend going out etc.ill have to check my other pecod 1177 I think.i have some with the black oil redist sole for work also but have to check after unpack everything.take care.enjoy the boots and thanks for sharing.im a 9 d on pecos .

[@CJCook]

I bet your 1155s look amazing! I think the Boomer leather takes on some beautiful characteristics as I am sure you are well aware.

[@panamabrad]

Typical redwing lesther. Very durable. I have some work boots 15 yrs old plus pecos black steel toe with the snake imprint bottom I forget the model that I wore at the airport and they are still serviceable. Smazing.ill check on that model no.

[@panamabrad]

4471 black pecos coolest soles for work boots.super comfy and durable walking on concrete hanger for many yrs.

[@petersilecchio4417]

Hi. Do you own Style 8187? In Brown Boomer Leather? What is the Difference between 8187 and 1178? Thank You

[@CJCook]

The 1178 is the Work version the 8187 is the Heritage version (share the same leather). The 1178 are more comfortable because of the Poron sole.

[@petersilecchio4417]

CJ Cook Hi. Can you buy a Poron Insole and put in the 8178?

[@CJCook]

@@petersilecchio4417 no, unfortunately it is not a removable insert.

[@dararohan1209]

Look great but why do they have to be so expensive 😭😭😭?

[@extraitdeminimalisme2533]

That briar work pecos might have to be had w/ and immediate sole swap, of course!!

[@kennethsmith6470]

Is this plane ever going to land?!?!🤔

[@CJCook]

🤔

[@harrisonkoff8805]

Do the 1178 have a removable insole?

[@CJCook]

No, they do not

[@njc2107]

What is the difference between the 1155s and the 1178s?

[@CJCook]

The outsole. 1178 has the nitrile cork and the 1155 has the chemi gum with a stacked heel.

[@njc2107]

@@CJCook Thank you! I wasn’t sure if the differences went further than the soles and insoles. I’m used to wearing 1132s, my current pair is around 5 years old and I’ve worn them almost every day. I just got a pair of 1155s and while they’re comfortable and look good, I’m not crazy about the high sole. Only remedy would be to buy a pair of 1178s in addition to the pairs I already have! 😂

[@bryanallen9851]

Get Paloma some new Boots 👢

[@colemancalgary5260]

How thick are your socks with the 1178?

[@CJCook]

Usual Red Wing cotton ragg

[@jordansabayoni9433]

Can you still order these from a red wing store?

[@CJCook]

Yes, the 1155 are still available.

[@cindyogeltree5744]

Just bought 1155s for 75usd

[@CarlosValentor]

Where did you get that shirt you’re wearing man?

[@CJCook]

It is actually from Banana Republic...Several years old.

[@pearlah7608]

This boot have a steel toe?

[@CJCook]

No, not this version

[@GibbSaw63]

The 1155 has a cooler sole :)

[@CJCook]

I would immediately take the 1155 to the cobbler and have them place a leather stack on the heel.

[@GibbSaw63]

@@CJCook I bet Red Wing would make bank if they came out with a real western line. Pecos with a true leather sole and stacked heel would be perfect.

[@CJCook]

@@GibbSaw63 100%!!

[@domino3055]

I am mau om pecos nya

[@davidoffrance]

Make a sotc please, a 3 hours video i guess 🤪

[@CJCook]

I want to and I think about it and then I think about pulling all those boots out and I start to get lightheaded. Hahahaha!

[@hotshothorn]

Pronounced "Lou kay zee" fyi...

[@CJCook]

Nope. It is Italian. Salvatore Lucchese was born in Sicily. I speak Italian. I am pronouncing it correctly.

[@hotshothorn]

@@CJCook All true but we're speaking English here, not Italian. Still a good video.

[@CJCook]

@@hotshothorn Ooo noo! I was afraid you were going to put that is writing. Not a good look. Matinee, Charade, Entourage, Mirage, Kindergarten, Cul-del-sac are all Non-English words (European) we use everyday in the States.