Redot: Godot but it's not political and it's better

[@Utomatica]

i talked to the Redot guys and they seem like they're really serious about this. They also clearly said they just want to make a Game engine that works so i hope for the best!

[@elvismartinez9067]

Do you know if it'll use GDScript or C#?

[@imran_huseyn]

​@@elvismartinez9067 plan is to keep support for both for now.

[@PrasadOfRA]

seems like GDscript as base, and C#, Lua and others added as en extentions.

[@MrXlee1967]

Redot needs to focus on 3D. Godot owners are dreaming of another 8 million in funding to split up.

[@natecoley160]

about what are they serious? What exactly are they willing to fix in the engine?

[@Ethorbit]

I chose Godot over over Unity and Unreal specifically because it's open-source and can't get ruined by politics. It's reassuring to see how fast the community reacted to keep this engine on course

[@guillermoelnino]

Guess what, it got ruined by politics.

[@AzoTheRed]

​@@guillermoelninoI'm not sure how the engine is ruined. The engine still functions fine.

[@viannizvnv7222]

@@guillermoelnino nothing changed

[@jaythecoderx4623]

There really are no politics happening... just a lot of drama unrelated to the actual engine that is being given way more attention than it deserves

[@THGMR-ox7sd]

Yeah but the title says it’s better than Godot so…

[@velius_development]

"keeping politics out of the engine"? Politics were never part of the engine. It just became part of the twitter account/community management. "and it's better" how is a 1 to 1 fork of the Godot upstream better than the original godot branch? People are confusing the actual product of software with the community management.

[@DeadEyeJedi]

It's open source, they aren't just copying the Godot Engine, the people using it will contribute to it, from what I understand, the plan is to make it into its own entity based on the Godot engine, but expanded upon.

[@Felipe-rn1gf]

Fr

[@kaminekoch.7465]

@@DeadEyeJedi There are no contributions other than renaming the engine. The second they merge something that will not be merged by Godot, the project will probably die because of merge conflicts.

[@DeadEyeJedi]

@@kaminekoch.7465 So far, the engine isn't yet a week old, of COURSE there are no changes yet, how fast do you think there would be? The whole _point_ of forking a project is to make bespoke changes to it. As for 'will it die', well, obviously no-one can answer that, it depends on what those changes and updates will be. The person who made the fork is the developer of a separate game engine and is already talking of moving some of the features from one to the other in the new branch. The thing is, because these people are banned from Godot for questioning the moderators (and I don't care whether it's political or not, you do NOT ban someone because they disagree with you), they can literally ONLY contribute to the Redot engine and not the Godot one.

[@aboxonmydesk319]

​@@DeadEyeJedino,just no,the people who use the engine aren't 100% engine Devs, they're gamedevs

[@FrogBeanss]

“better” nothing has changed, and it is now 62 commits behind.

[@LedoCool1]

Those are mergeable.

[@Derivative-k9y]

​@@LedoCool1Wait till merge conflicts arise and the fork's development halts.

[@LedoCool1]

@@Derivative-k9y cool. That's what I'm waiting for.

[@jameschern2013]

TrueGodot fork Next Plan 1. Using the new 3D physics engine Jolt 2. Add simple post-processing functions for rendering 3. Create a source code tutorial for more people to join 4. Make the game engine just a game engine

[@toolazytobeoriginal4587]

You wouldn't need to change anything for number 4. Say what you will about Godot and the drama, but the software itself focused on being a game engine.

[@Kapsulonn]

hey so that's not a plan, 1 is already doable in 3 clicks and is officially supported by godot, for 2 im a little confused about this point since you have the asset library that already contains everything you could need, 3 would be useless... a game engine is complicated by nature because it has to be feature complete, making tutorials on how to work with the source code would be useless because people that should work on the engine are the ones that already have the skills to understand it. And the 4th point doesn't mean anything because its already just a game engine

[@AgnisNeZvers]

@@Kapsulonn If you have problems to understand the engine code then say so. Tutorials will be there to help to understand.

[@Kapsulonn]

​@@AgnisNeZvers I don't see how this matters at all to my point, if you don't already have the skills to work on an engine, you should not work on godot's source code. Making tutorials on this would be pointless, the best that can be done would be documenting it but its already kinda done. This whole fork is so weird all its objectives are blurry and downright illogic... How can you pretend making something less political while saying pride is an agenda...

[@boscorner]

Godot already is just a game engine. Social media is just social media. Unless there's tool tips popping up in engine telling you to add more gay characters I don't see how an engine can be woke. Also big surprise redot now has its own drama

[@VaSoapman]

I don't think its a good idea to name the engine after a crypto. Probably wasn't done on purpose. Still take that over what just happened.

[@zenvariety9383]

Yeah, ironically there is a crypto exchange named Redot. Perhaps they'll try to make the game engine more distinguishable.

[@michaelfisher4737]

it was just a coincident

[@toolazytobeoriginal4587]

I mean it's supposed to be a "Redo" of Godot, hence "Redot". That or "re" Godot

[@natecoley160]

@@michaelfisher4737 COIN CIDENT 🪙🪙🪙

[@nono-yw3tv]

They didn't name it after a crypto. And so what? They're not aligning with it.

[@MimyRoo]

They need to chnage the name. Redot. Is already crypto card.. i saw when looking it up.

[@Avaitor_YT]

Maybe because it's ONE GIANT CRYPTO SCAM!? Lol I doubt so but they DESPERATELY need to change their GODAMN NAME!

[@IROHPRS]

they were do it in a rush probably

[@johnpekkala6941]

I got an idea! RedDot Engine and make an all new cool logo with like a glowing red dot to go with it in the place of the Godot robot.

[@blarghblargh]

​@@IROHPRSyeah. Start a project in a rush, give up on it in 6 weeks. The fork is going nowhere

[@cinderguard3156]

Ive seen something similar happen back in ranimememes back when i used to use reddit. Huge controversy over politics and another group left and created r/goodanimems. It was promising at first but ended up becoming even worse then the original cuz it attracted a bunch of people who also cared way too much about politics but on the other side of the spectrum. Im considering using redot if im wrong but im gunna wait cuz im worried a similar situation may happen here.

[@Utomatica]

Yeah... this is the unfortunate faith of a lot of projects if they get too political Personally i would prefer if we could just make games and keep the politics out of it. the leads of Redot told me specifically that their Code of Conduct is "Don't be an A**" and that's it and that their goal is simply to make the engine as good as it can be even if it ends up remaining a fork. the issue today is it is hard picking an engine, not because of the engine but because of the potential community that engine might end up attacting and personally i am not political either, i just wanna make games and that's about it

[@Novacification]

Yeah. My personal politics are probably left leaning but I'm tired of people deciding that I'm right wing because I fundamentally disagree with calling someone fascist simply because their opinions don't overlap 100% with my own. I realize that this is bringing politics into it but it's just to provide context that my interest in Redot isn't motivated by a red vs blue mentality. I honestly just want to use and support projects that don't suddenly start unhinged rants about political issues, and I don't want Redot to just be the same diatribe on the other side of the spectrum. I'm interested to see if they can attract contributors to actually make this viable.

[@NicheXCC]

​@@UtomaticaCan't we just use the Godot engine and ignore the creators?(without funding them, ofcouse😂)

[@noahbranch6127]

@@NicheXCC yeah we probably could but if Godot does not receive any type of funding it would eventually probably die. And no one would want to work on something they see dying. I wonder if redot will also have a full time developer.

[@NicheXCC]

@@noahbranch6127 Well, atleast there're people willing to continue improving the software. Even if it gets worse, we can always just download a specific version.

[@AlyphRat]

A whole week and the README file is still untouched

[@CodeKokeshi]

I was very disappointed. I really loved Godot but I hate woke ideology. I hate it too much.

[@IROHPRS]

Personally, I do not find it problematic that they are promoting their political views cuz this mfs do this all the fucking time. My issue is that people who are speaking truth to them are being silenced.

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

​​@@IROHPRSyou can't have both when silencing "the other" is part of their views. There are LGBT supporters that aren't obnoxious about it, though those are never the kind to seek a position of power to abuse.

[@IROHPRS]

@@cdgonepotatoes4219 i mean im seeing this shit in a mass marketing scale so at this point i dont care about most of them but you are right this mfs are looking for a pos to abuse, they have no fucking life i mean see disc and twitter all the mods have mental illness

[@ilucasz]

​@@cdgonepotatoes4219So, he meant woke people, not LGBT. And he's right, it's normal to expect such bullshit from them, no one gets surprised anymore. The problem is the censorship because it always happens.

[@slimeinabox]

You do not hate it enough.

[@Omega-ig6rp]

It’s literally a fork of godot thats over 60 commits behind, it’s being treated like the second coming of christ.

[@xeteorblaze]

"60 commited behind" which branch you see? master branch was actually 2 commit ahead

[@mpmedia6735]

I highly doubt redot is going to go anywhere as it probably won't gain the community or dev team that godot already has. If it does then great, but it just seems to be a product of reaction, and the interest and buzz around it seems to only stem from right wingers who are highly fixated on this one incident. In a month or two, things will die down and go back to normal.

[@GurniHallek]

Yeah, people way overreacting to this whole thing.

[@rock5480]

@@GurniHallek ‘Overreacting’? When Unity caused the Runtime Fee disaster last year, Unity fans were saying the same thing. lol

[@knaksi]

@@rock5480 the runtime fee actually affected something. Godot is still the engine it's always been. Redot just seems like a product whose only purpose is to serve as a reaction, nothing more.

[@soya_kitchens]

Why is everyone here making the same exact comment about how nothing has changed yet? Guys, it's only been a few days...

[@fk3239]

In response to the title.

[@soya_kitchens]

​@@fk3239 I mean, that's the goal of Redot, isn't it? To fix bugs and add requested features? Wouldn't that make it better?

[@fk3239]

@@soya_kitchens Yes, and I am hopeful about it, but it's only been a few days.

[@JennyTheNerdBat]

Because the project doesn't spark confidence in general. Redot is basically made out of spite, and its devs haven't showed a fraction of technical know-how required to actually make a solid engine to make games on.

[@kanaverum]

@@JennyTheNerdBat "Redot is basically made out of spite" What led you to this conclusion? I've been following all of their X posts and everything they've posted in their Discord channel, but haven't gotten the same impression. If you're aware of posts or a conversation outside of those two platforms, I'd be very interested to learn more

[@TheGolipop]

If i had looked up redot an hour earlier i would never have found this video. Kinda interesting for me to think about. Anyways, thanks for the vid!

[@trosko7690]

Same, very interesting thing to think about

[@Utomatica]

Glad to have you here! Personally i am glad to see so many people actively being interested in this and glad that their community is growing, i was in a discord conversation with the people behind the idea and they also touched on multiple issues they want to resolve. I will wish them the best of luck as they seem insanely dedicated!

[@crimmerz2000]

My question is, why are people letting politics dictate what tools they use?? It seems completely ridiculous, if the engine is good use the engine, if you don’t like the politics then ignore it the engine will still be the same engine

[@MrXlee1967]

Because godot has never listened to people with skill telling them what to fix and how. it was only after the 8 million in funding got spit up and godot hired other people to run things did some things get fixed. godot is still staying in its soiled pants and not fixing the biggest things. Try building a real 3d game and you will give up. im not talking about 3d rooms with loading in-between them. ask and they will point to jolt, try it and see the other unfixable problems start

[@SvenHeidemann-uo2yl]

@crimmerz2000 As stated in this vid: It's because of wasted resources and focusing on the wrong thing.

[@TheSteveTheDragon]

Because you never know if any element of your project will piss off the oversensitive crotch-larpers and then they'll go after you.

[@guillermoelnino]

believe it or not, evil people infiltrate institutions to subvert and twist them to their will.

[@crimmerz2000]

@@MrXlee1967 I have a commercial published 3d game on steam fully 3d kinematic joints and all as well as full online multiplayer, I’ve never run into problems. In terms of fully triple a 3d actual graphics and physics they do have a ways to go however

[@revengerwizard]

Forks almost always tend to die. A similar situation happened with Rust a while back, nothing changed.

[@guillermoelnino]

then I hope Gotot is the fork that goes away.

[@AzoTheRed]

​@guillermoelnino such a ridiculous sentiment. Despite the idiotic people in charge, Godot is still a great engine

[@guillermoelnino]

@@matrbs it is their church.

[@originalbadboy32]

Imagine waking up one morning and thinking of switching to a fork of a game engine because you are a snowflake. The world really is weird right now.

[@aboxonmydesk319]

Fr, switching to the same engine just with a different logo is good for them psychologically but at the end of the day you're just using Godot 😂😂😂

[@dannyd4339]

newsflash lil girl, you are the snowflake on this subject

[@dokerb3d60]

use assembly it more capable that any other language, just decompile unreal engine binary and write asm directly, that is the best way to develop games with full control with super capable and fast programming language. but defenetly if you want create a REAL game you should start from zero and write you game in pure binary

[@DeadEyeJedi]

Reinventing the wheel isn't really the best way to write code.

[@tomobodo]

Lol a bunch of snowflakes do a fork and change the logo and it's treated like the second coming. Riddiculous.

[@diegocamilopenaramirez6101]

But documentation, tutorials and projects must be done

[@AzoTheRed]

Yeah. I'm not sure if these guys realize the monumental task they have taken on

[@LedoCool1]

@@AzoTheRed yeah, like Linus when he went "how hard it could be" and accidentally put himself into a gutwrenching task of making linux. XD

[@froztbyte85]

I honestly think that the social media manager at Godot, and the Godot Foundations' response are wrong; but "*opens random file* there's so few lines of code!" is genuinely the funniest thing I've seen from this whole saga.

[@АграрнаяПартия]

Don’t care about woke stuff, but wish to see a fork of godot with ECS functionality. There is a Godex, but it doesn’t update several years.

[@FadeyausoPlusUltra]

don't listen to anyone, just use what you want, redot, godot, and other forks that are actually useless at point. if you are just a user not a donator or some kind, why would you even care about this situation bruh. godot is not restricted, not deleted or else, just some twitter whiners wants to tell their useless opinion. if you actually a normal person, you will use that, that you think you'll need.

[@nono-yw3tv]

"just some twitter whiners wants to tell their useless opinion." Ok, You have NO idea what the situation was about then..... Because I can assure you, That's not true. And several non-political people were banned by Godot. One was even banned by QUOTING the creator himself.

[@nono-yw3tv]

But yea, You're right. There's people like you sharing a "useless uninformed opinion"

[@nerdydrow]

Most lilkely they wold just merge the patches that goes into Godot to their fork (they have no IDEA how complicated that simple task is lol), but unlike say when Neovim was forked it had clear goals that the Vim project was unitersted in (third party scripting API, treesitter integration, LSP...etc) but with this Redot it only promises not to be political which we can get with just a different twitter account for godot news

[@commonsay4191]

That doesn't sound like their intention, it seems like the devs already had some complaints with Godot before the "Wokot" incident that they intend to address in Redot.

[@velius_development]

"they have no IDEA how complicated that simple task is lol" only if they add their own changes. But as long as they just force pull all changes from the original main branch it shouldn't be a problem. But as you said, it's completely stupid when the issue is with community management to just provide another download link to the literally same software.

[@LedoCool1]

@@velius_development I hope they do tho. Godot had a bunch of issues which the original team seems uninterested in fixing. Render and physics - those I encountered myself. And latter one was turned into a report but instead of looking into it guys went "uh, we're removing physics engine anyway" and did nothing on it. I guess it's understandable, but every time I use godot I meet small but significant issues that hider the progress. Guys trying to import from blender will back me up.

[@velius_development]

​@@LedoCool1 Yeah, if that would actually be the case, I will be more than happy. Regarding Godot having issues... I have used Godot for many years now and as I hit some limitations and issues and shared them with the community as constructive criticism I got a lot of backlash from people defending Godot like an infallible cult. Just like in this situation, anything critical, even if the intent is to improve the engine, is often seen as a kind of personal attack. The problem is not really the engine, it's how the community handles criticism.

[@carmen_13]

"not political" lol.

[@TheRealNickG]

Ikr. If you ask Redorks what the engine does and why they do it that way, they will say it is because of political issues and they won't talk about the engine because they have no plans. They are completely oblivious to the irony of demanding that Godot community managers stop talking to the community they serve. I guess in order to protect themselves, they need to have a white cis male running everything so the trolls can skip the part where they try to claim that celebration of the liberty and rights of minorities is trying to make the world an even more evil place to live.

[@Utomatica]

10K views! Thanks everyone 😀

[@Apeiron242]

"Redot" gives me a ton of videos about guns.

[@guillermoelnino]

problem?

[@viannizvnv7222]

red dot sight iz cool

[@utfigyii5987]

@@guillermoelnino Yeah, i hate guns, i dont wanna use a game engine being associated with guns.

[@guillermoelnino]

@@utfigyii5987 soujds like this sn owf la ke g ot... tr igge red. YEEEAAAAAHHHHHhhhh

[@d35348w]

Godot is releasing very quickly, they just sent out a new dev version. Development is faster than ever. This is an overreaction. More can be accomplished by working together instead of having a tantrum because of some Twitter drama

[@FrogBeanss]

@@d35348w Exactly, people are creating drama for the sake of drama. Why is 1 tweet from 1 community manager worth all this? I just wanna make games :c

[@nono-yw3tv]

Yeah, No... screw Godot.

[@nono-yw3tv]

Also, It's not just the community management. They blocked people on GitHub AND Twitter. How can you call that open source at that point? And no, They weren't just blocking people for harassing others. It was other devs as well. And hearing what the head of Godot had to say, I'm surprised ANYONE is defending them. If they did this but in reverse, And they were going after OTHER groups of people. How do you think that would go? Would you continue to support that? Because according to you..... You would.....

[@nono-yw3tv]

Also, It's not just the community management. They blocked people on GitHub AND Twitter. How can you call that open source at that point? If they did this but in reverse, And they were going after other groups of people. How do you think that would go? Would you continue to support that? Because according to you..... You would.....

[@FrogBeanss]

@@nono-yw3tv That one social media manager does not represent the values of everyone who worked on godot. You can like the engine and the development, and dislike the social media manager! theyre seperate.

[@JechtMakesVideogames]

60 commits behind but "it's better" ☠get real fam

[@JechtMakesVideogames]

​@@matrbs Redot will not be free from politics and extremist american ideologies. You guys use Christian values which is another set of ideologies that were abused and used to the extreme throughout history, especially modern day. The only reason why game devs forked a game engine, is because they didn't like two dudes kissing each other. Nothing was woke about Godot, you're just reaching too hard.

[@jooch_exe]

Competition is good.

[@ZayJayPlays]

Any idea on how to install it though?

[@natecoley160]

even fork authors have no idea, they could not make builds yet

[@thevideogamesrealm]

This is a paradox. Making a fork of a game engine because the original is too political is in its very essence a political statement

[@IronFreee]

Why do people like you like to make fools of themselves publicly? Asking for something to be apolitical is not a political statement. Just as asking something to be areligious isn't a religious discourse, or asking you to stop making noise doesn't imply that you're making noise.

[@tom79623]

How is that a paradox, they didn't go and made a right wing game engine they just focused on making a working game engine that doesn't deal with bulshit ideologies why does that bother does same people that are trigerd when you coment on something that is "nat made for you", that is the actual paradox

[@erichzannbusoumuzan]

Well, time to fry my potato brain till it produces a way to compile ReDot into an executable...

[@Utomatica]

You do it exactly how you would compile normal godot from source, so any tutorial that shows you how to do that should work. i am not aware what Godot version it is but i believe it's 4.1... don't take my word for it tho, but it should be pretty straight forward if you download the required externals

[@kairu_b]

Based on the faq on their discord server, it says 4.3 😁​@@Utomatica

[@erichzannbusoumuzan]

@@Utomatica It wasn't like the normal GODOT at all... For me at least. Couldn't do the VStudio route (Windows 7 os + lotsa mismanaged SDKs) and failed to MinGW-w64 (got stuck on a bug where SCons fails to recognize it despite PATHing and all). Was able to run initial SCons builds and compilations with LLVM but was stuck on a ld.lld duplicate bug for a day until I finally found and inlined a PKEY audio driver function in "wasapi" .cpp file. Sorry to bother you with that rant, but may I ask you a question as well? Is REDOT supposed to look identical to GODOT interface-wise? I'm not familiar with the whole forking biz so even trivial input from a person with experience is appreciated. Also, it uses GODOT 4.4 dev version now.

[@siroro2]

@@erichzannbusoumuzan There has been zero changes in redot from the original source code, it's going to look identical to godot, because it is godot.

[@erichzannbusoumuzan]

@@siroro2 Ah, too bad. I thought that at least something new was being done, but I guess they're more interested in posting OCs on their twitter right now. Oh well, maybe they'll announce something on Friday like they promised.

[@benimprofilresmimebakma1362]

64 commits behind

[@DeadEyeJedi]

You say that like it means something. It could have been a spelling correction, the commit might cause another error and force a rollback, a commit doesn't mean one engine is more 'advanced' than another, and commits can currently be merged into either branch because there is little difference. It's one thing to be realistic about the chances of a fork surviving, but it's kind of tragic to see people who (a) don't really understand development and (b) seem to be drooling over the prospect of the new Engine fork failing, that's just spitefulness. You people are no better than the people you stand against sometimes...

[@benimprofilresmimebakma1362]

@@DeadEyeJedi i know, its also 2 commits ahead of, my point is they have a very weak foundation, its like a building standing on a a fabric of a rope,so i wouldn't say its "better"

[@DeadEyeJedi]

@@benimprofilresmimebakma1362 It's probably not better, to be honest, I don't know if it will survive or not, but the issue is why it exists in the first place. For me, I just think it was _incredibly_ spiteful of the moderator to remove these people's access to the community simply because they had a different opinion. I've moderated forums, you can remove posts, lock threads, even give official warnings to a commentor if you feel the need to, but banning was a last resort. Completely removing access to the support structure for an engine you are using, is a terrible thing to do to someone. No asking about solving issues or code behaviour, no encountering problems and trying to find out if anyone else has had the same issue etc. It's an _incredibly_ spiteful and cruel thing to do, because it effectively removes the coders ability to use the engine properly. It's a massive over-reaction on the part of the moderator and should have been called out as such by the rest of coding community, because what happens the next time someone has an opinion or statement that moderator doesn't agree with?

[@benimprofilresmimebakma1362]

@@DeadEyeJedi yeah it sucks, but i didnt saw gay flag anywhere on the latest release, so its fine for me, and i am rooting for redot too, as long as they stay FOSS, but i wont be hating on godot for a tweet that i hadnt seen until yesterday, its best to support both of them

[@ahmede92]

I hope this engine will focus on making a good intermediate with professional tools engine instead of oversimplified godot, I might try it

[@ancy1205]

Look promising. Will take a look.

[@paperback333]

I don't get it, Github is way more woke than anything godot said, why are they using Github? Seems really odd to me.

[@natecoley160]

they should rename main branch back to master at least to fight against wokeness

[@paperback333]

@@natecoley160 Exactly! 🤣

[@elvismartinez9067]

Does anything from Godot 4 uses translate to the Redot Engine?

[@betweenerdev831]

I think they got 4.2 version of godot for it in the replies I see

[@felipejhony6039]

im waiting on a tutorial to see if i can keep working on my projects. And how would the IDE be?

[@mat_max]

Gamers so desperate for a gamergate 2 they'll take it to game engines 💀

[@DanyloSyrotynskyy]

Redot looks and sounds Kool :)

[@PaulaBean]

The wokies are invading the game engine space.

[@IROHPRS]

first games, now game engines what a surprise

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

​​@@IROHPRSeven operating systems. Project leaders have been forcibly removed and chased off the open source project they started and contributed the most in for not being enthusiastic enough about LGBT support (key word, not *enough.* "You just want everyone to get along and focus on the project? You're sheltering na*s!"). They do this, they take the chair, raise the flag like it's their military victory and impose their new set of rules which forces everyone to wear a rainbow badge and armband.

[@LimitPro1]

They were already doing that when they ousted Linus in 2014

[@TheSteveTheDragon]

They've infected open source for a long time now, A lot of open source projects are heavily saturated with wokeness, there's even a code of conduct created by a wokee that's used a lot. Gnome from what I understand is completely woke.

[@guillermoelnino]

y ou remember the unity and unreal scandles from like a year or 2 ago? probably this year?

[@LeftyPencil]

They gotta update their docs form godot mentions

[@mahiainti678]

yeah, i tried using godot years ago, but decided to stop because of their mandatory custom language. With GDScript you have to re-invent a lot of bicycles for any non-trivial use case

[@FLMKane]

That's EXACTLY why John Carmack got rid of quakeC after the first quake game There was no point in using QuakeC instead of actual C Years later, Unreal engine ditched unreal script as well

[@KotleKettle]

I hope they will fix the physics engine

[@youtubidenteyoutubidente9254]

Can use other physics engine with plugins

[@MrXlee1967]

@@youtubidenteyoutubidente9254 it brings in other problems, godot really needs fixing, asking people to install jolt and then try to fix the problems that are incoming yourself is madness.

[@natecoley160]

@@MrXlee1967 it's not madness, it's called game development. ...which is kinda madness but it's your responsibility

[@Kapsulonn]

@@KotleKettle spoiler alert they won’t fix anything because it’s a bunch of mentally slow game devs that know nothing about engine development or c++

[@konev13thebeast]

​@@Kapsulonnthe godot team? Yes we know. Maybe the fork will do better

[@ants-in-my-eyesjohnson1271]

Wow! A couple weeks ago I told Godot to get forked,...... and they ACTUALLY did it!!

[@Utomatica]

You can download Redot at www.redotengine.org/

[@Oo_Tama]

Wait, so i can just load my game as i do in godot using redot? That's amazing

[@DearFox]

Because at the moment the difference is essentially only in the naming.

[@AzoTheRed]

Which makes using it pointless. Until redot actually becomes the better engine, I'll just keep using the main branch.

[@InnerEagle]

They just changed the name for now, so if you trust them, open in it

[@Volt-Eye.]

What is woke by the way ? Not from west btw.

[@nono-yw3tv]

OK, So if you say "only men are allowed in men bathrooms" and someone aggressively attacks you for saying that. They're "woke"....

[@Johny9405]

godot vs redot = theyre both similar, just one got hated on over twitter drama

[@LuckyStardustMS]

Godot team is not political... The community overreacted imo

[@Avaitor_YT]

I won't consider Redot until they change the name EDIT: (Also will it support android?) I do not have a PC Wait, why am I getting so much hate now tf!?

[@KotleKettle]

Making games on Android? Are you kidding?

[@zenvariety9383]

Apparently there's a crypto exchange named Redot. That could be an issue in regards to trademark law.

[@Avaitor_YT]

@@KotleKettle I'm serious about this! I'm not saying I'm gonna make GTA 6 on Android, but I found a way to run ultra custom night on Android when everyone else thought it was impossible. I know how to bypass most of it's limitations and I've always wished there was a free grand strategy on android!

[@Avaitor_YT]

@@zenvariety9383 Yeah, I REALLY don't want to tell people that I have Redot on my tablet either because that would really just get rubbed off the wrong way

[@dengeki2005]

Tried making games on Android, really hard to do

[@Insomiotic]

Just a bunch of anime pfps complaining about "woke" shit lol. mark my words this fork will see next to no traction, and in all likelihood will get abandoned

[@IronFreee]

It's nice to make a place where the rational people can work together.

[@АндрейДильман-ф6ь]

Really bad situation. Even that this fork appeared, it's not GREAT thing in my opinion. Godot community will split at two parts, and I think that Redot will not have such good documentation or forum. And what about a lot of great creators that strongly grip to Godot brand like GDquest? Well, although it's Godot management to blame.

[@martinrovere7937]

being apolitical is like being non-binary. You are still taking a stand on politics or gender

[@graphicsaw2657]

Imagine if Redot, buy avoiding politics and Ideology, manage to rapidly improve the Game engine with fewer devs ...

[@benny_dryl]

keep imagining

[@OwnerOfTheCosmos]

Dear UT. Your sound setup is great (microphone etc.), but your accent is way too thick for me, even if I crank up the volume. Please work on the clarity of speech, it will sure give you more subscribers if you do. :)

[@Kapsulonn]

crazy over reaction, being gay is NOT political, godot has always been an ally and this fork will probably be abandoned already in a year. You people keep talking about ideologies but I don't see them anywhere the only thing I noticed was people crying because "gay"... Honestly a shame.

[@DeadEyeJedi]

It wasn't 'gay' it was 'you are banned for not following our mindset!'. If they had simply been told to be careful of the difference between DEI and *Toxic* DEI, and there's nothing wrong for highlighting games by game developers that are LGBTQ+, which I _do_ agree is non-political, I'd have thought this was a storm in a teacup. Instead they were banned, thus _turning_ DEI into Toxic DEI by using censorship to control the conversation. Looking at that conversation, the first post was not political, however, the reaction to the second one _was_ political. Do I think the fork will survive? Probably not. Does this justify the actions of the moderator? No.

[@Kapsulonn]

@@DeadEyeJedi the moderator? if you’re talking about that person on discord with the pill pfp then your argument doesn’t stand because he’s the admin of a community server and his actions do not reflect the engine’s mindset. But if you’re talking about the community manager, it’s still an over reaction from everyone including them, everything happened in twitter because it’s a cesspool, the first post was not political but it still triggered a massive reaction from homophobic people, which then caused the CM to overreact too because themselves and godot staff where getting mass bullied, the people that were blocked now have probably been unblocked because they reviewed it after. i’m sorry but to me this became "political" because of all the reaction to the first post, just a wave of idiots full of hate that have nothing better to do than put their hate on LGBT people… everyone saying the engine is political and it’s on the level of unity engine drama are stupid, it’s just blatant homophobia, the engine is not gay you don’t have to use slay() to print text or yass_queen() to instantiate a node.

[@DeadEyeJedi]

@@Kapsulonn Thing is, it's not about whether the posts were political or not, the simple idea that you can just ban someone for having a different opinion or saying something that you personally are offended by is not a trend that Godot needs have a reputation for setting, whether true or not. The branch came about because these people have literally had their coding support structure removed for _daring_ to have an opinion that someone with access to the ban button disagreed with. Those later posts only really happened _because_ of the ban, and if people had dogpiled in after the difference between inclusiveness and deliberate exclusion (which is what the real complaint is about) had been explained, but no ban had taken place, if the CM had acted like a rational, reasonable adult, then that can be dealt with as is felt to be required. This branch didn't come about because people said 'gay', that could have been dealt with at source, the branch came around because a group of people suddenly lost the ability to communicate with other people using the same game engine, and so lost access to advice, support and backup. Some of them may have been halfway through developing a game and now they've lost a major source of support for simply speaking their minds.

[@Kapsulonn]

@@DeadEyeJedi you keep talking about being banned, the only place we’re people were banned was on the Godot Café discord which is a fan made discord and not the official one

[@DeadEyeJedi]

@@Kapsulonn The initial point you made is because they did it because 'gay', it isn't true, it's because the CM acted like an ass, regardless of the reason or the location.

[@chaosmachines934]

pls make it happen i am so sick of EDI b.s everywhere.

[@johnpekkala6941]

Will there be an Android build also like for Godot since I really like to fiddle with this game engine also on my mobile? I mean I can use Godot to create not just games but also other type of applications right on my phone so that would be nice to have! In general Godot is/was a really nice engine to work with and I really like its versatility + the fact it runs on ANYTHING including Android but what is happening now and the realization that the creators and managers of Godot themselves seem to be very toxic / racist ect people in general is not nice, like as I heard before one of the developers of Godot is appearently openly supporting Putin and his war against Ukraine and speaking in general racist and hostile terms and now also this happens. I dont want to support that!

[@s7ppy]

I'm sticking with Godot, I honest to god really don't think this is enough of a big deal to jump ship. Don't let the actions of one person spoil the whole thing yk? Godot already made a statement in response to it and the response was (at least to me) more than enough. I wish Redot luck, but it's gonna take more than some dumb twitter drama to get me to switch

[@fuscafuscafusca]

not political = political, but right wing-y

[@average_food_eater]

im planning on using godot/redot in like less than a year but because of the drama idk what to use and i also dont get why we need redot

[@average_food_eater]

im a bit worried about what to do now cuz if i use godot i feel like i will be attacked

[@papyruscoolskeleton9543]

Use whatever you want, if they attack you over an engine, that's their problem, not yours.

[@Eka_eku]

this is just stupid yall are so dramatic

[@Stelos-]

No, what's stupid is leftists.

[@tiktokdailyreview7015]

L take in general... Redot is definetely an over correction and probably won't survive ... GDScript is just fine it could improve on performance but its syntax is really good and readable

[@qingyun6005]

It's just a tool, don't be brought into a low dimensional world.

[@CatTheG]

while i dont hate liberal/leftist ideas (i am a leftist myself) , i hate companies minding whats not their business

[@Stelos-]

I am a conservatarian and I have been called every name under the woke "Bigotry" book at this point by Godot wokesters. I am really sick of the double standard, and yes as you put it "Companies minding whats not their buisness"

[@guillermoelnino]

y ou just haven't been accused of anything yet. Don't worry. Y ou'll be called all the names and attacked just like the rest of us.

[@issaelynuma9001]

Redot

[@taiga1295]

Clickbait title. It's more political and it's not better.

[@michaelf7858]

I think Redot Engine will not make it. You need full time developers to work on engine to keep up with Godot. Godot have fund and foundation that manages engine. Redot engine do not have any. Community that desided to work on Redot have a lot of work to do.

[@carlosleyva-calistenia6400]

There are rumors about the foundation needing more cash because they used that money to create a company instead of using it to fund the engine. If those rumors are true, then maybe Redot isn't that far behind.

[@natecoley160]

@@carlosleyva-calistenia6400 those rumors are bullshit

[@kairu_b]

Nice

[@friendlyfox2189]

Godot is already behind compare to unreal and unity now its gonna be more behind now that it lost supporters 😢

[@rphntw1n]

Huh?

[@aeolianthecomposer]

Changing the engine because they made 1 post supporting gay people on twitter is such brainrot lmao.

[@LedoCool1]

Imo dgscript is enough as interface language for the engine. It's not much, but it's just enough.

[@natecoley160]

it should now be called ddscript

[@Pesquisando0b1011]

Long live Redot.

[@frankbardon]

As of right now it’s the “exactly Godot”. Forks fail most of the time. Waste of time and I doubt it’ll be “better”.

[@DamianCRWDctrl]

"It's not political" the sole reason it exists is political, what are you even talking about?