Redrafting Round One of the 1991 NHL Entry Draft

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Жыл бұрын

What if Lindros hadn't been taken at #1 by Quebec?
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@day1avsfan907
@day1avsfan907 Жыл бұрын
Drafting then trading Lindros was the best thing to happen to Quebec/Colorado, along with Detroit blowing out Montreal and allowing Colorado to acquire Roy
@lewisyaworski8962
@lewisyaworski8962 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, without the Lindros trade...in this timeline I predict that Quebec goes to Colorado, but without all the pieces(Sandis Ozolish included) I am not certain they have enough 'firepower' to beat Detroit in playoffs that year. Lindros playing in New Jersey could also mean a longer career for #88, and possibly more Finals appearances for the Devils(96,97,99,00).
@DevilzFan
@DevilzFan Жыл бұрын
Man, one forgets how damn lucky the Devils were that San Jose took Falloon over Niedermayer.
@theawesomer8587
@theawesomer8587 Жыл бұрын
Lindros might have a few cup rings if the Devils took him. Might have a longer career too because Stevens wouldn't be hitting him (at least not on purpose).
@ryanw8220
@ryanw8220 Жыл бұрын
There''s always practices... Keep your head up Eric lol
@adawg1125
@adawg1125 Жыл бұрын
think kasparitis is the one who knocked his head loose stevens was the 3rd or 4th who got him good and ended him lindros would probaby still have been concussed out. head down staring at the puck was the only way he handled it.
@slipperynodd578
@slipperynodd578 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanw8220 oh so you’re part of the shitty group of people who excuse bad people doing bad hits by saying keep your head up.
@pale_saint
@pale_saint Жыл бұрын
It’s better it played out like it did, he was too full of himself and had the attitude of Calder and the Cup reserved for him, plus the nonsense about not going to Quebec
@conservativeamber1216
@conservativeamber1216 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanw8220 I'd pick Forsberg 100 times over Lindros...Peter Forsberg is a better player
@cygnusx-1862
@cygnusx-1862 Жыл бұрын
The Colorado avalanche would like to thank Eric Lindross and the Philadelphia flyers for 2 Stanley cups.
@neutralsportsfan17
@neutralsportsfan17 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact Peter Forsberg didn't play in the 2001 conference and Stanley Cup Finals and the Avs still won.
@kitfisto1827
@kitfisto1827 Жыл бұрын
and Claude Lemieux cheap shots
@bacchigaloupe1
@bacchigaloupe1 Жыл бұрын
This pre-recorded stuff is spooky, twilight zone kinda like
@sportsrook8282
@sportsrook8282 Жыл бұрын
It’s a bit spooky, but very intuitive
@KevinJL
@KevinJL Жыл бұрын
It's TEG in Vegas
@raymondrahim9591
@raymondrahim9591 Жыл бұрын
There’s two of him
@BloggerMusicMan
@BloggerMusicMan Жыл бұрын
At first I thought "who do you pick in this draft ahead of Lindros?" and then you put down Forsberg and Niedermeyer and I thought, "yeah ... you're right." Peter Forsberg was a true once in a generation type talent. He was not only an extremely prolific playmaker and scorer in general, but one of the most hard nosed and defensively responsible forwards of his era. A champion twice over, an Art Ross and Hart winner, and while his style of play probably led to more injuries than he would care for, when he was on he was as great a player as existed in the Dead Puck Era. Definitely the best player in his draft class. Scott Niedermayer was an elite skater, a very smart and aware defenceman who was a great leader and always put his team first. Deserved his Norris, more crucially deserved his Cups and gold medals. One does wonder what Lindros could have done had the last half of his career not been so mired with injuries though ...
@robertchflynn
@robertchflynn Жыл бұрын
Lindros at his best was still the best I contend...
@filipnassen9076
@filipnassen9076 Жыл бұрын
Yay, Peter Forsberg is #1! Over all, 1991 draft was pretty damn good.
@closethockeyfan5284
@closethockeyfan5284 Жыл бұрын
I feel like it produced a high number of strong defensive players.
@Dan-jm2sc
@Dan-jm2sc Жыл бұрын
Lindros was the more dominant player of the 2. If Lindros had Sakic, Foote, Blake, Roy, Borque, as teammates his numbers would have been insane.
@closethockeyfan5284
@closethockeyfan5284 Жыл бұрын
@@Dan-jm2sc Well, Bourque was for a brief time, but it's a fair point to proffer.
@Random-yb5di
@Random-yb5di 10 ай бұрын
@@Dan-jm2scForsberg was injuried for over half his carreer. Forsberg > Lindros all day.
@Salmaan99
@Salmaan99 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the anger in Leafs Nation if they ended up giving up the pick for Eric Lindros in exchange for Tom Kurvers.
@Roller11111
@Roller11111 Жыл бұрын
That was looking like it may happen but the Leafs management made further moves mid season with the Nordiques, where they sent I believe more draft picks for decent roster players effectively making Quebec worse and the Leafs better. Once they realized how bad the initial trade was they lost more assets due to the embarrassment of losing out on Lindros, who at the time was supposed to be the next Gretzky/Lemieux level. Arguably the worst moves in franchise history.
@tomsix123
@tomsix123 Жыл бұрын
Love the appreciation of Ozolinsh. Thank You Shannon
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 Жыл бұрын
So underrated. He and Krupp were the perfect defense partners
@tomsix123
@tomsix123 Жыл бұрын
@@MrOctober44 agreed. Its a shame what happened to him after leaving NA
@levidecroce6036
@levidecroce6036 Жыл бұрын
You need to do a 2009 redraft like this!! There were SO MANY good players!
@philippegohier6992
@philippegohier6992 Жыл бұрын
In a recent interwiew on radio Canada, lindros say he didnt want quebec only because Marcel Aubut , the president. He hate that man. Not because of the city, not because of the people of the city.
@ryanwhittle6525
@ryanwhittle6525 Жыл бұрын
Forsberg was an absolute BEAST.
@docjsh
@docjsh Жыл бұрын
If I'm the Nordiques, I still take Lindros because you end up with Forsberg anyway but then receive all of the other pieces that later plant the seed for two cups later on for the Avs when you thrash the Flyers in that trade.
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio Жыл бұрын
@@classic.cameras then again, so are these redrafts.
@briangreen1781
@briangreen1781 Жыл бұрын
So many memories on this board... Thank you!
@audibletapehiss3764
@audibletapehiss3764 Жыл бұрын
Here's the thing. If NJ drafted Eric Lindros on Earth 31, he and Scott Stevens would've won at least 4 Stanley Cups together, because... Stevens would never have hit Lindros. And also because Lou is much smarter than Clarkie. At that point, you'd be taking Lindros at #1 again in the Earth 32 redraft.
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
Plus Niedermayer doesn't get the support by playing with Stevens & Driver. Nor does he get the tutelage of the greatest defensive coach of all time, Larry Robinson. Whole different world. HOWEVER no one of planet Earth doesn't pick Lindros number 1 back in the day. Almost stupid to speculate otherwise.
@nickbezanson3549
@nickbezanson3549 Жыл бұрын
This was awesome! Right in my wheelhouse. I'd love to see more of these from the 80's/90's!
@DEIVION212
@DEIVION212 Жыл бұрын
Avs fans just sitting here watching this man destroy our 96 cup (Watch Dangle's trade tree about Lindros) Have a great holiday, you both deserve it, cheers for the content while away it's much appreciated 💚💜
@midimusicforever
@midimusicforever Жыл бұрын
Peter Forsberg was the best player in that draft class for sure! And yes, Niedermayer second is a sound pick, tho I could consider putting Lindros there as well. Czerkawski And Ozolins should have made the first round tho, somewhere on the right half, and definitely not among the last few.
@jonmendelson1104
@jonmendelson1104 Жыл бұрын
Assuming you're talking about Sandis Ozolinsh, Shannon had him at 10th.
@Defy5
@Defy5 Жыл бұрын
I would have taken Czerkawski over Konowalchuck but otherwise pretty solid redraft.
@midimusicforever
@midimusicforever Жыл бұрын
@@jonmendelson1104 Oh shit how did I miss that. I must have phased out lol. Then I am only missing Czerkawski.
@TheBigfootsfeet
@TheBigfootsfeet Жыл бұрын
Put Osgood in the HOF, I’ll argue anyone on it for the rest of my days
@McSomething15
@McSomething15 Жыл бұрын
Same. Man got robbed of a Vezina as well.
@neutralsportsfan17
@neutralsportsfan17 Жыл бұрын
Osgood in and Larionov out.
@swy334
@swy334 Жыл бұрын
These are so fun! Thank you for posting sir 🤗
@ianzang2178
@ianzang2178 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I’d say honorable mention to Richard Matvichuk as a Stars fan but other than that great list
@The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge
@The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge Жыл бұрын
Not sure if the Avs win the cup in 96 and 01 by drafting Forsberg... We'll never know, but the Lindros trade gave them so many assets to trade for big names (Patrick Roy, Rob Blake, Claude Lemieux, Mike Kean, Ray Bourque, Alex Tanguay through a pick)
@citizenkane454
@citizenkane454 Жыл бұрын
Barring injuries, I believe forsberg would have been a top 10 player ever.
@dustinsindledecker154
@dustinsindledecker154 Жыл бұрын
Even with the injuries he is at least top 30 of all time in my book.
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
Cmon man... MIke Bossy "barring injuries" would have played another decade and scored 2000 NHL goals. Can't play that game, we could do this all day.
@marksibley4546
@marksibley4546 Жыл бұрын
Scott Niedermayer would be my pick but Forsberg was traded and became the corner stone and was awesome as well But Scotty was an amazing player all the cups gold medals for me he is better but I mean obviously couldn’t go wrong with either
@sojiroseta98
@sojiroseta98 Жыл бұрын
But thats the thing, Forsberg has all the cups and gold medals too, they are both part of the tripple gold club, ur right though there is no way to go wrong between the 2 of them.
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
Of course, based in reality, Niedermayer is clearly number 1.
@lil_bear
@lil_bear Жыл бұрын
These Redraft videos are great! Keep it up!
@lannynavitka8949
@lannynavitka8949 3 ай бұрын
My dad was a junior hockey coach in 1991, and I was 11. I remember how much he HATED Eric Lindros. He used to tell me that he was going to get destroyed physically in the NHL because he skated with his head down. He and my grandpa coached in the prairies for 40 years. We spent entire weekends talking and playing hockey. My dad was the one who discovered Sami Jo Small, she played on his boys midget team for three years in high school. He took a lot of heat for that from parents. I'm so proud that he never backed down. I got to run drills with her at practice, she was an amazing goalie. Both of them are passed now, and you're my new The Hockey Guy.
@saundersinlinehockeybakers240
@saundersinlinehockeybakers240 Жыл бұрын
My Kings didn’t have a first round pick, but (actually) ended up with Palffy, Stumple, Murray, Perrault, and O’Donald, Zhitnik.
@kimnorlen2699
@kimnorlen2699 Жыл бұрын
Love Forsberg at first overall!
@noblingblinghockey1166
@noblingblinghockey1166 Жыл бұрын
redrafting 1991!!! Nice!! The good old days
@artvandelay1967
@artvandelay1967 Жыл бұрын
It would cool to see videos for top picks of the last 2 rounds over a 5 yr span or so, which would showcase how well certain franchises are at finding diamonds in the rough. Most years you only get a few players in the last 2 rounds getting a taste...but there are some amazing finds in the later rounds out there.
@kainme1901
@kainme1901 Жыл бұрын
3 former Adirondack Red Wings go in the first round. Detroit's dynasty was BUILT in little Glens Falls NY.
@sparkywildcat8174
@sparkywildcat8174 Жыл бұрын
These re-draft vids are VERY entertaining....great work Shannon! Seems like Falloon should be 1st round....but hard to argue with THG's picks. But hard to argue this was a great draft class. BTW, all the concussions Lindros suffered weren't from on ice play. Certainly one of the rumors or parts of all the rumors are true since Lindros was concussed in the locker room by somebody. This SOB obviously thought more of himself than the team and got exactly what he deserved. Personally, I like the Tocchet version....the ultimate team warrior and teamate.
@steventalbott6066
@steventalbott6066 Жыл бұрын
Good! you drafter Peter Forsberg first now I can go on watching
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio Жыл бұрын
Given everything Quebec got for Lindros (Forsberg being only one of a whole boatload of pieces that they got for him), it’s hard to imagine Quebec/Colorado becoming the powerhouse they became had they drafted Forsberg in the first place. They’d be competitive but not one of the three most dominant teams of the pre-lockout era.
@tchevrier
@tchevrier Жыл бұрын
Lindros was still the best player in that draft. And the haul Quebec got from trading him was huge. So, in hindsight Quebec should still draft Lindros
@ericovalle8737
@ericovalle8737 Жыл бұрын
YES!
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
Speculation on this draft is oh so stupid. EVERYBODY on planet Earth had Lindros going first overall. Even Hockey Guys board is brutal since Niedermayer obviously had the best career of everyone in that draft and it isn't even close.
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio Жыл бұрын
If everyone had that hindsight available to them, Philadelphia trades far fewer pieces for Lindros, and maybe doesn’t make the trade at all. That’s the whole point of these redrafts. What would be reasonable nice to tell hockey coaches and management in 1991 is to take concussions seriously. Lindros is far from the only player to have his career, and by extension the entire sport, curtailed by unnecessary concussions.
@EightMilesHigh1966
@EightMilesHigh1966 Жыл бұрын
Sean O’Donnell was one of my favorite players on the 2007 Ducks
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
I remember when he was trash for NJ. Looks like you got the better end of the deal.
@pennyroyal3813
@pennyroyal3813 Жыл бұрын
There's a fun Forsberg video where he plays pick-up hockey as 'Kent.'
@that_guy0_0
@that_guy0_0 Жыл бұрын
Past Shannon is aware future Shannon is in Vegas 👀
@dpause10
@dpause10 Жыл бұрын
As an Avs fan since 95, I cannot argue with Forsberg at #1, but I think you also have to recognize that being a member of an extremely stacked Nordiques/Avalanche franchise really made a difference in Forsberg's career. While their regular season output is actually quite comparable (both have less than 800 games with a similar p/gp), it's really in the playoffs where Forsberg's career was elevated to another level: 151 games, 171 pts, 2 Stanley Cups, 5 in the conference finals, 14 postseasons. Lindros' appearance in the 1997 finals is what we all remember, but the fact that he only participated in the postseason 6 times is a bit shocking. And that's where the competitiveness of the Avs in that time frame as a whole is the key difference. So yeah I am actually not sure that you'd necessarily draft Forsberg before Lindros. In the end, the real irony is that Lindros could have had a far more prolific playoff career in a Nordiques/Avalanche shirt, and that is what he turned down by choice.
@madeinedmundston
@madeinedmundston Жыл бұрын
Still Nordiques had been geniuses to take Lindros...Just Forsberg VS Lindros is limit. Add Duchesne,Hextall,Simon,Ricci,Huffman,two first and 15M ...I don't think Colorado would have won the cup in 96 without that trade.
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio Жыл бұрын
They got lucky. That’s not genius. They didn’t understand that Lindros meant it when he said he wouldn’t play for Quebec. They drafted him expecting him to play fir them, not to create a year-long holdout that fortunately came out with a team sucker enough to give up all they did. All this because everyone really believed they had the next Gretzky in Eric Lindros. That’s the thing about hindsight - everyone involved has it, and in hindsight Lindros is an awesome forward but not close to being in the debate for GOAT. And that’s what they thought he would be in 1991.
@theawayfan6052
@theawayfan6052 Жыл бұрын
Really nice to hear Shannon with some Osgood love, easily the most underrated netminder! Love these re-drafts, and hockey history videos. LGRW🐙🏒🤘
@MuriKakari
@MuriKakari Жыл бұрын
Definitely came to the comments to point out that 'knowing the future' every single person who ever cheered for Detroit would have taken Osgood
@wilseph1
@wilseph1 Жыл бұрын
Michael Nylander being drafted in this redraft by Hartford was great.
@ascendedgoji
@ascendedgoji Жыл бұрын
Future Hurricanes legend Sandis Ozolinsh ( :P ). Always found himself voted in as an All Star starter, guess Latvia really turned out for him.
@JustBrowsing777
@JustBrowsing777 Жыл бұрын
So many great players in that draft. Forsberg my all time favourite, but top 6 in the same draft is crazy good.
@shaan1001
@shaan1001 Жыл бұрын
I never liked forsberg for some reason.
@JustBrowsing777
@JustBrowsing777 Жыл бұрын
@@shaan1001 Detroit fan? 😄 It's ok to disagree of course. He was a monster, hard to see why as a hockey fan someone would not like him. Maybe prefer someone else to him but can't see why anyone couldn't see he was a great hockey player.
@jonmendelson1104
@jonmendelson1104 Жыл бұрын
​@@JustBrowsing777 To be fair, it could be just disliking the person, not the player. If a player kicks my dog, I don't care if he's the best player ever, I'll still dislike him (in no way is this a comment about Forsberg. He could've been the nicest person in the world off the ice, I've had zero interactions with him and didn't see anything with a 30 second google search). Additionally, like in your example, he could've played for Detroit. As a Sharks fan, I hate most of the players for teams that have the letters 'k' 'g' n' and 'i' in their team name (the Kings and the Knights), regardless of how good of a player or person they are.
@JustBrowsing777
@JustBrowsing777 Жыл бұрын
@@jonmendelson1104 Absolutely, but it's been quite a few years now since he retired and with time most of us can look back at players with a bit of a different perspective 🙂
@marksibley4546
@marksibley4546 Жыл бұрын
OMG Naslund was a stud he Morrison and Bertuzzi where a force … great vid and what a video great stuff man
@xtraplayer7281
@xtraplayer7281 Жыл бұрын
Yes, he and Bertuzzi were great. Morrison was just along for the ride, and could have been any other nhl center.
@InsignificantNick
@InsignificantNick Жыл бұрын
Your daily reminder that Chris Osgood should be in the HHOF.
@miccrhaafetl5101
@miccrhaafetl5101 Жыл бұрын
OZZIE OZZIE OZZIE
@kitfisto1827
@kitfisto1827 Жыл бұрын
3 Red Wings draft picks going in the first round. That's good drafting.
@christoffermellegardanders5267
@christoffermellegardanders5267 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Could you do the 2014 redraft? I know you did it a couple years ago, but i think alot of players from that draft have «risen to fame» the last few years. Especially later picks
@romangagne5842
@romangagne5842 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering when you were going to do Drafts from the 90s! Should definitely do the 1990 draft, if memory serves me right that the Canucks got Antoski that year
@coachrobwille4176
@coachrobwille4176 Жыл бұрын
Yes and Selgar and Peter Nedved
@romangagne5842
@romangagne5842 Жыл бұрын
@@coachrobwille4176 That's right!
@bcrawfordkr
@bcrawfordkr 9 ай бұрын
Interesting list. I had Niedermayer 1st due to the longer career. Also had Matvichuk, Czerkawski and P. Boucher on my list. But other than those, very similar lists
@brendanbishop4254
@brendanbishop4254 Жыл бұрын
Nice hotel room, very homie 😆
@MayorTerwilliger
@MayorTerwilliger Жыл бұрын
I went to this draft when I was 9 years old! Zhitnik would have had some countrymen on the team (Zubov, Nemchinov), but lets be honest, Keenan would have run him out of town during 1994. My father hated Markus Naslund early in his career. He took him in our family fantasy draft for 93-94 for his rookie year on Pittsburgh expecting a Rookie of the Year point total and he got 11 points.
@YThEHelLDiDIMakEThiS
@YThEHelLDiDIMakEThiS Жыл бұрын
Fun draft vid!
@spartan4196
@spartan4196 Жыл бұрын
You should do 1999 specifically to decide if hank sedin goes above zetterburg
@waynemclean1799
@waynemclean1799 Жыл бұрын
Great draft year
@Hoovie9596
@Hoovie9596 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact : one of the 2 Oilers first picks was from part of the Wayne Gretzky trade from 3 years earlier.
@saltywingsandavsfan
@saltywingsandavsfan Жыл бұрын
IMO Forsberg had a longer prime than Lindros.
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
While Scott Niedermayer was ALWAYS in "his prime".
@dcfog81
@dcfog81 Жыл бұрын
Sharks strongly pursued Niedermayer in 05 but he wound up going to Anaheim to play with his brother, Rob. What changes if he goes to SJ? They probably get off to a better start in 05-06 and may not even trade for Thornton.
@diggergeensen860
@diggergeensen860 Жыл бұрын
Pretty strong draft year
@m.e.s.ostranenie8069
@m.e.s.ostranenie8069 Жыл бұрын
This is the big one for me as a Sharks fan. I think if we had taken Niedermayer instead of Falloon and then in 1993 had taken Pronger instead of Kozlov, we would have won a cup or two.
@pyrielrising4338
@pyrielrising4338 Жыл бұрын
No chance Lindros would have dropped lower than two, Jack Ferriera would have fallen down running for the mic 3 seconds after San Jose went on the clock.
@dustyb58
@dustyb58 Жыл бұрын
Detroit drafted a guy named Bart Turner. Wish he would have played. Detroit also drafted an Andrew Miller, different guy than the Drew Miller they got from the Ducks and obviously different than the Andrew Milller drafted by the Detroit Tigers.
@thepivotguy1123
@thepivotguy1123 Жыл бұрын
THG and TEG taking turns beaming each other back to the ship
@robertchflynn
@robertchflynn Жыл бұрын
People can say what they like about Lindros, but his peak years were still better than anyone else's including Forsberg. Lindros was a child-man prodigy and played like it for at least half a decade.
@fubartotale3389
@fubartotale3389 Жыл бұрын
What am I missing here? I looked up Sean O'Donnell and it shows him being drafted in 1991, but in the sixth round by Buffalo.
@jonmendelson1104
@jonmendelson1104 Жыл бұрын
I'm confused as to what you're confused about. This is a redraft done a few days ago of Shannon's current opinion of the order the players would have been picked if the draft was redone with knowledge of how the players' careers turned out. He only did the first 22 picks (aka the first round), but he didn't restrict himself to players who were originally selected in the first round. A sixth round pick is still a player who was draft eligible that year.
@ryanatkinson9622
@ryanatkinson9622 Жыл бұрын
"Remember, Eric; it's not when you go, but where... and what you do." - Shane Wright's dad :)
@Detector1977
@Detector1977 Жыл бұрын
I kinda agree with this list
@oceanshrugs9235
@oceanshrugs9235 Жыл бұрын
I really wish we could have read Internet forum threads about that Lindros thing and the trade lol
@dsc4178
@dsc4178 Жыл бұрын
Another draft where the Leafs said, "Nah, we don't need to get involved." As they so often do. But then they got Yanic and that was good, until they decided it wasn't and traded him away.
@artystaar
@artystaar Жыл бұрын
When is he career of Steve Durbano video?
@rileylewis9641
@rileylewis9641 Жыл бұрын
Loving the redrafts
@wolferine2471
@wolferine2471 Жыл бұрын
Pronger and Niedermayer. Best defensive tandem in Nhl history? Has to be one of the best ever.
@mr.ilikespam6081
@mr.ilikespam6081 Жыл бұрын
fun fact ray whitney has the most points in this draft and has the most assists
@jonmendelson1104
@jonmendelson1104 Жыл бұрын
longevity helps with that. He played 1330 games while the best offensive players played significantly fewer (ie: Forsberg had 708, Lindros had 760). Kovalev was number 2 in points and also number 2 in games played.
@Ponera86
@Ponera86 Жыл бұрын
that lindros fall is like the recent wright fall lol
@philtorrez4198
@philtorrez4198 10 ай бұрын
I was born in ‘91!🥳
@aeofilmsinc.9768
@aeofilmsinc.9768 Жыл бұрын
6 former LA Kings on this list. You need to do a career video of Ziggy Palffy.
@samuelreese6357
@samuelreese6357 Жыл бұрын
Nah, Lindros is still the best player out of the bunch. Foreseberg and Neidermeier were excellent players, but benefited from their circumstances. If you theoretically swap out Lindros for Forsberg on those Avs teams, they'd be just as successful.
@staffan144
@staffan144 Жыл бұрын
Forsberg was the best player in Colorado.
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio Жыл бұрын
Lindros would have been just Lindros. Quebec got a boatload of players and money for him. Forsberg unquestionably had a better career just on a personal level than Lindros anyway, never mind 2 Cups to none for Eric.
@staffan144
@staffan144 Жыл бұрын
@@MDK2_Radio forsberg was a more skilled player than Lindros. Forsberg also had a stronger will
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio Жыл бұрын
@@staffan144 agreed.
@jameshuseby9931
@jameshuseby9931 Жыл бұрын
Great video enjoy Vegas
@eck4324
@eck4324 Жыл бұрын
Was surprised to hear kovalev after naslund....just always rememberes kovalev being a threat with pit and mtl whereas naslund didn't seem as problematic as an opponent
@patrickcoughlin4148
@patrickcoughlin4148 Жыл бұрын
Was there any talk of any teams trying to trade up to #1 with the drama between Lindros and Quebec?
@Chrisman77
@Chrisman77 8 ай бұрын
Not really. Quebec listened to a few offers, but they decided early on they were going to call his bluff
@GRChrzak
@GRChrzak Жыл бұрын
A Detroit blueline with Lidstrom, Konstantinov, Chiasson, Howe, and Ozolinsh is interesting.
@warrenthomas4687
@warrenthomas4687 Жыл бұрын
Sheesh...The last few of these you have put together Shannon reminds me of the days when the Blues never had a 1st round pick........
@jonmendelson1104
@jonmendelson1104 Жыл бұрын
Look at the Panthers. Unless they have a lottery pick, they'll have gone like 4-5 years without a first rounder (assuming they don't trade any more away). Edit: Or trade to get one.
@DBeau73
@DBeau73 Жыл бұрын
Imagine that you could actually see the future and pick accordingly? Would change the whole way the league would look and all. Forsbeg with Quebec, Quebec almost made a killing with trading Lindros, such a pick would end up still moving to Colorado with a much weaker team.
@Eric13345
@Eric13345 Жыл бұрын
Dangles trade tree I think proves you want to draft, then trade Lindros like Quebec did. They handled it perfectly
@brendanorourke4727
@brendanorourke4727 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a big Lindros fan, but he dominated the game in a way nobody else ever has. His combination of skill and physicality was truly unique. If you're using hindsight, take Lindros and tell him to keep his head up crossing the blueline. You can't tell Forsberg to not have funny shaped feet. Truth is, both would be right behind Wayne and Mario in the all time conversation without those injuries. Either would be a worthy 1st
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
Can't "dominate" when you are KTFO
@brendanorourke4727
@brendanorourke4727 Жыл бұрын
@@yoholmes273 tough to argue that one.
@andrewsammon5575
@andrewsammon5575 Жыл бұрын
I’d have the Islanders draft Kovalev, purely to prevent all the goals he would have scored against them.
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
HAAAAAAAA
@TheGumbyRules
@TheGumbyRules Жыл бұрын
Sharks got Sandis Ozolinsh, an offensive Dman, in the second round.
@Ryuzakku
@Ryuzakku Жыл бұрын
Alright, here we go. If there was 32 teams (this one is going to be controversial): 1. Ray Whitney (blessed by longevity) 2. Alexei Kovalev 3. Peter Forsberg 4. Markus Naslund 5. Eric Lindros (hurt by longevity) 6. Scott Niedermayer 7. Brian Rolston 8. Zigmund Palffy 9. Michael Nylander 10. Jozef Stumpel 11. Glen Murray 12. Chris Osgood 13. Sandis Ozolins 14. Martin Rucinsky 15. Mike Knuble 16. Alexei Zhitnik 17. Yanic Perreault 18. Dean McAmmond 19. Mariusz Czerkawki 20. Steve Konowalchuk 21. Martin Lapointe 22. Brian Savage 23. Pat Falloon 24. Philippe Boucher 25. Igor Kravchuk 26. Dmitri Mironov 27. Brian Holzinger 28. Sean O'Donnell 29. Patrick Poulin 30. Dmitri Yushkevich 31. Bill Lindsay 32. Steve Staios I notice I underrate defensemen and goalies, especially since I dropped my favourite player from 3rd to 6th.
@Nickleblanc41
@Nickleblanc41 Жыл бұрын
1963 draft next?
@kris9872
@kris9872 Жыл бұрын
With th 6th pick the flyers select you guessed it…….NOLAN PATRICK! Though he is 8 years before he is born they have hunch and they ain’t down with Cale makar!
@The_Omegaman
@The_Omegaman Жыл бұрын
Redraft an entire decade. 1-32. Interesting to see what year had most or least.
@faunbudweis
@faunbudweis Жыл бұрын
the trouble with Kovalev was his questionable work ethic, not his defensive game, some evenings he just didnt even try; with that talent he could have cracked 120pts. in a season
@theevilascotcompany9255
@theevilascotcompany9255 Жыл бұрын
So there's an alternative universe out there where Ziggy Palffy dies because of Bobby Clarke's negligence.
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio Жыл бұрын
The funny thing about the comments here is that some folks are forgetting that this redraft is done in hindsight, meaning that all the teams would benefit from it. If you’re saying Quebec should still take Lindros because of what they got when they traded him, you’re forgetting that Philadelphia would never in a million years make that deal if they knew how it all worked out - if they had the benefit of hindsight. They and everyone else really thought he was another Gretzky. Knowing he’s simply an awesome hockey player but not top 5 of all time like they believed, at most they would trade Forsberg, and only Forsberg. No other players, no future draft picks, no $15 million cash. That’s why Quebec might as well draft Forsberg in hindsight. They weren’t going to get everything else if everyone knew how Lindros’ career would go.
@ronaldwayne7092
@ronaldwayne7092 Жыл бұрын
The biggest surprise of the real first round was Mike Smith taking Aaron Ward when Kovalev - and other Russians - was available. (The guy had a degree in Russian Studies. I'm not making that up.) It would have been nice to see Lindros drop out of #1 just to give him some humility for the first time in his life. He has since dropped to #2 on the Most Spoiled Brats In Canadian History list because Bonnie and Carl couldn't afford to buy a team for him. (Congratulations Lance!) Remember that this wasn't the first time he rejected the team that drafted him.
@DarkDuelStories
@DarkDuelStories Жыл бұрын
Hey Shannon, just saw you asking matheson a question on the canadiens channel, are you a closet fan since the cup run ?
@m00rtin4
@m00rtin4 Жыл бұрын
im scratching my head to the fact that nylander got that high. he sure is in the first round. but he was journeyman, and he was below the level of olli jokinen for example in the terms of journeymen. id put him on same level as stumpel.
@swy334
@swy334 Жыл бұрын
Yes please do a career vid on stumpel
@strategic1710
@strategic1710 Жыл бұрын
Forsberg absolutely goes 1. Top 5 all-time all-around player. If I was trading away Forsberg you would have to give me Lindros and some additional high draft picks.
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
Niedermayer ABSOLUTELY goes number one and it isn't even close.
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio Жыл бұрын
@@yoholmes273 true, Niedermeyer isn’t close to Forsberg’s level. He just stayed healthy.
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
@@MDK2_Radio What a truly absurdist comment. Niedermayer has won every single major championship one can win in North American & international professional hockey competition. He would clearly be the number 1 overall on this redraft. Then again , since this is entirely fantasy, perhaps you could fantasize about WHAT IF Forsberg wasn't ALWAYS injured. However, back in reality, Scotty Niedermayer obviously goes number one.
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio Жыл бұрын
@@yoholmes273 if the subject is the NHL but my guy isn’t as good as another, I’d change the argument too. (Actually, I wouldn’t because for me, honesty is more important than feelings.)
@wilseph1
@wilseph1 Жыл бұрын
Alexei Zhitnik was a fun player for many years
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