Redrafting the 1984 NHL Entry Draft

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The Hockey Guy

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@crsmtl76 10 ай бұрын

By the way, Mario Lemieux and Patrick Roy were born on the same day. October 5th, 1965.

@chrisbelos2834 10 ай бұрын

1984 was such a good draft for the habs. they got Svoboda, Corson, Richer and Roy. all played over 1000 NHL games. that's 4000 games played from 4 drafts picks in the same year, their best "game played from a draft year" on record.

@krisrizakis9989 10 ай бұрын

Not to mention that Daigneault and Muller both played for the Habs in 1993.

@dangshnizzle6929 10 ай бұрын

Anyone know the answer for 2nd best?

@chrisbelos2834 10 ай бұрын

@@dangshnizzle6929 i actually looked at it and it was 1998 with Ribeiro, Beauchemin, Markov and Ryder. even tho Beauchemin only played 1 game for the habs he went on to play 903. Ribeiro played over 1000 games but markov ended at 990

@v4v819 10 ай бұрын

Only one HOF'er...

@BudSchnelker 9 ай бұрын

@@chrisbelos2834 They got more games out of their 1987 draft: Cassels, Leclair, Desjardins, and Schneider. Leclair's 967 games was the lowest number among that crew. Even though the rest of their draft that year was a washout, those four guys still played more games than the entire 1998 draft class.

@GrinderCB 10 ай бұрын

The reason why Robitaille dropped all the way down to #171 was that he couldn't skate. To watch him you'd think he was wading around in a swamp. The Kings finally took him way down the draft and at some point sent him off to Laura Stamm's skating school. He improved his skating but was never very fast, going from glacial to just slow. But his hands were the real deal. He just had that knack of being able to get his stick on the puck and get the puck toward the net.

@yogibearstie 10 ай бұрын

It is so much about timing, being in the right place at the right time but also having that finishing knack. It seems like certain players must see things different. Like I see the goalie and shoot around them. Are they seeing empty net spots and hitting them? Corey Perry is another like that where he doesn’t waste opportunities.

@GRChrzak 11 ай бұрын

Doug Bodger was probably my most common card found in the 1991 Topps packs. I swear he was in every one I bought.

@SonOfTamriel 11 ай бұрын

you just awakened a memory for me, so true! lol

@September2004 10 ай бұрын

The first two picks were born on the same day: October 5, 1965. Shannon forgot to mention the coincidence of Brett being drafted by his Dad’s old team and what that would have been like. 2 of the top 3 are the only players besides Gretzky to score 80+ goals in a season. 3 of the top 4 scored at least 668+ goals.

@kevinstull8552 10 ай бұрын

With this redraft, Brett Hull goes to the Blackhawks, the team his father, Bobby, played with for many years.

@LSA30 10 ай бұрын

I get that he wasn't projected anywhere near 3rd overall, but 117th? Chicago had MANY chances to pick him up later in the Draft. It would have been wild to see him there.

@ScarecrOmega 10 ай бұрын

Surprised THG didn't mention that, also more surprised that Chicago didn't take a chance on him

@peterolbrisch8970 11 ай бұрын

I don't believe this was in George Orwell's book.

@WarioSaysSo 10 ай бұрын

The 1984 NHL Draft was all about Mario Lemieux - the next "original next Wayne Gretzky" level of player! Teams offered great lands and riches for him (old spoken phrase), but the Penguins held steady and kep there draft, having MOUNTAIN HIGH hopes of that this man would make the Pittsburgh Penguins land on the hockey map - and he would make no one dissapointed as history shows. But still, crazy that Patrick Roy, who would become arguably THE greatest goalie in NHL history was not picked in 1st round.... freakin 51st overall in 3rd round (!) Imagine, Penguins who had 3 picks in 1st round could have picked BOTH ATG men in 1 round PLUS Brett Hull 😲

@nicholasbrown7068 10 ай бұрын

I just got done watching Joe Bucks interview with Brett Hull. His first NHL game was game 3 of the Stanley Cup Finals at the Montreal Forum. His first shot was off the post of Patrick Roy. He talks about being traded from Calgary and his coach Terry Crisp.

@erikkrosh8112 11 ай бұрын

What an absolutely insane stacked beast of a draft

@neilflood6508 10 ай бұрын

Just seen a harrowing documentary on Duncan McPherson's passing in the Austrian Alps. He was probably not going ever to play in the NHL, but he had plenty of pro hockey ahead of him when he died.

@SpeedandSplendor 10 ай бұрын

A dynasty could be drafted out of 1984 alone: With my personal GOAT #66, a 700 goal scorer, recod setting LW, GOAT playoff goalie, multiple solid SC contributors. So many steals in this draft.

@yoholmes273 10 ай бұрын

If Pittsburgh didn't oh so obviously tank so hard in order to pick 1#....Pittsburgh as an organization would have relocated long ago

@jasonpatrick5660 10 ай бұрын

What an insane draft. Holy cow.

@greggg3592 11 ай бұрын

Career video on Zarley Zalapski? RIP

@ericwittman3 10 ай бұрын

I love these, because so many of these show that the Flyers either drafted poorly or traded the pick away and we didn’t have a first round pick for the 479th time.

@huhmz 11 ай бұрын

All these comments about being old and now you made a video of the draft of the year I was born. 😢

@Svarthok 11 ай бұрын

Lemieux and Roy are born on the exact same day, which means... well nothing actually, but any how :)

@chrisbelos2834 10 ай бұрын

happy 40th birthday gramps

@huhmz 10 ай бұрын

@@chrisbelos2834 I've got a few months left kiddo

@TheEDFLegacy 10 ай бұрын

@@huhmzSame! 😢

@GizmoBeach 10 ай бұрын

I graduated High School in 1984, what’s the op complaining about? 😛

@clydeblair9622 11 ай бұрын

This is fun. Y and Suter together plus the Bruise Brothers.

@oldskool1979 10 ай бұрын

Duncan Macpherson Doc story on youtube is crazy.

@Statsy10 10 ай бұрын

As others have mentioned on here, the most intriguing story in this first round was the mysterious disappearance of Duncan MacPherson on an Austrian ski trip. It would make its own interesting video.

@FrankieHresko 10 ай бұрын

Sylvain Cote got to be a first rounder! One of my favourite d-men growing up! He was great with Caps!

@kj6446 11 ай бұрын

Love that classic Pens jersey!

@marknilsson6808 11 ай бұрын

I was really surprised how u didn't put Ronning much higher, given he's your favorite player all time. Anyway keep making great content. We love u Shannon 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

@kelleyhaldorson209 10 ай бұрын

Gary Roberts-My Favorite Player, He's a 10 in my books. He did get a bit excited at the alumni game a couple years ago and I was afraid for Draper. Haha I don't know who Pivonka is?? had to google him, still not sure if he is that high on the list?? Jeff Brown-Surprisingly I don't remember him either, I probably should, maybe the name is too generic causing me to overlook him? Thanks for the great content, one of my favorite channels on you tube. Have fun!

@higgy04 10 ай бұрын

First NHL Entry Draft I remember seeing on TV. CBC Sportsweekend showed it and a rare moment where Dave Hodge wore an orange CBC blazer instead of the powder blue HNIC blazer.

@severedhand141 11 ай бұрын

Always liked Shawn Burr growing up. I’d love to see a career video on him!

@unsung6811 10 ай бұрын

Calgary had a great draft that year!

@williamsteffey3434 10 ай бұрын

It’s because they drafted so many guys named “Gary” 🤣

@thesuneversets 4 ай бұрын

Eddie olyzyk was a coach for the pens too

@KevinJL 10 ай бұрын

Duncan MacPherson played zero games in the NHL, but his story might be the most interesting.

@TomssP642 10 ай бұрын

Was kinda surprised Shannon didnt mention it, but on the other hand, yeah that's a whole video topic

@caddrafter48 10 ай бұрын

Brett Hulls foot was in the crease

@lincolnmaceachern2410 10 ай бұрын

Not his fault; I don't know how many goals were disallowed that season, but there were a lot for that reason. It was insane that the league let it go.

@bartsanders1553 10 ай бұрын

Imagine being the GOAT of your position and still justifiably not being picked first in a redraft.

@OCRay1 7 ай бұрын

Tom Glavine was drafted by the kings in that draft.

@tchevrier 10 ай бұрын

the 84 draft was a beast for the Habs. Svoboda, Corson, Richer and Roy.

@jimwu8532 10 ай бұрын

THG, don't worry about mobile users, I'm going to assume most phone users can use pinch zoom, and can zoom at least 3x as large - since my budget phone from 2022 can do it. If I can, flagship phone users most definitely can.

@derekleblanc9717 10 ай бұрын

Trevor Steinburg a 2 time national champion coach at St. Mary's. Always a nice guy when I dealt with him when I was in broadcast school

@dangshnizzle6929 10 ай бұрын

My immediate reaction is Eddie shouldn't drop to 9 but looking at the numbers I guess it's fine lol

@GrinderCB 10 ай бұрын

Very interesting, I like these redraft videos. Suggestion, Shannon. Might be interesting to know the backstory of how or why some teams weren't in the 1st round. In this case, PHI, STL and WIN. Did they trade away the pick? To whom and for what player(s)?

@mrchromaticable 10 ай бұрын

a few interesting points regarding this draft: 3 players would go on to win the Calder trophy( Lemieux, Gary Suter and Robitaille.. also Montreal picked Troy Crosby with their last pick. (Sydneys father)

@lincolnmaceachern2410 10 ай бұрын

I thought for sure Suter was drafted the year Wendel Clark went # 1.

@1bert719 10 ай бұрын

Petr Svoboda was one of my all time favourites (which seems to feature alot of Czechs) but looking at who everyone drafted vs who they could have kind of makes me question the scouting back then. Especially as it was the fire wagon 80's and lots of defencemen got picked high. Was it an attempt to quench the fire? 🤔

@romangagne5842 10 ай бұрын

Nice mention of Selmar Odelein (Lyle's brother). Imagibe Brett Hull as a Blackhawk and not a Flame. That trade to St. louis possibly never happens, which would definitely help Chicago in the long run on route to their Cup Final appearance in 92.

@chrislondon63 10 ай бұрын

it would be nice if you would also mention which team drafted them first

@GizmoBeach 10 ай бұрын

Richer scored a lot of goals for me during NHL 99 on a line w/ Renberg and Janney. 😛

@Fatazz 10 ай бұрын

What a draft year. Am I wrong seeing three of the original draftees ended up on the Caps?

@yogibearstie 10 ай бұрын

That was my first draft eligible year, so congrats to all of those GMs that avoided a wasted pick.

@vinceniederman 10 ай бұрын

I’ve Read If Pittsburgh Doesn’t Draft Mario in 1984 The Team Moves Out of Pittsburgh!

@mikemcgloin6829 10 ай бұрын

Always wish the NHL games could let you start a franchise mode years before and play from there. Like the NBA games do now. Would be cool to see how things could change even if it’s a simulation

@Feeldaburn 10 ай бұрын

I look back at that draft the pens could’ve drafted a killer 1 st line if it was done right after Mario it could’ve been like the 74 draft for the Pittsburgh Steelers

@TheRotundRider 10 ай бұрын

Something that would make these absolutely fascinating would be do select not based on the player alone, but factor in what the team needed at the time. Lemiux is probably going #1 regardless, but if Jersey (for example) didn't need a goalie why take Roy? Not sure how you could validate team needs at the time or how much time it would take to compile it, but it would proper that extra spice on an already fun video.

@Just_Phil_ 10 ай бұрын

Pittsburgh and Washington together at 16 & 17. Yup that checks out

@sylvainbougie7269 10 ай бұрын

1984, the best year of anything and everything.

@893263007 10 ай бұрын

Hull, Roberts, and and Suter in the same draft, with no top ten picks, is insane.

@TylerMorganShow 11 ай бұрын

Loved Ronning!

@VGK2017 10 ай бұрын

Robitaille at 171st overall is surprising. Just goes to show that some gems come from the later rounds

@Kariakas 4 ай бұрын

Don't worry, Mario Trembley and Rejean Houle took care of Roy for the Habs.

@dktrox 11 ай бұрын

I would have still argued Brett Hull for 2nd. Roy was an excellent goalie, but Hull was so underdrafted

@erikhaynes5506 10 ай бұрын

Hull could score but he was a huge defensive liability. He was -1 on his 72 goal season, lol.

@darkoanton5 10 ай бұрын

@erikhaynes5506 His three huge goal years were when he played with Oates in St. Louis.

@ronaldgarner1992 11 ай бұрын

Tom Glavine from Atlanta Braves fame was drafted by the Los Angeles Kings in this draft

@duckfan2448 10 ай бұрын

Tom Glavine picked at #69 ahead of both Hull and Robitaille.

@J_Aaron_L 10 ай бұрын

I love redrafts!

@kennypacheco6110 10 ай бұрын

Do a Kovalchuk video

@sirekumasutra7022 10 ай бұрын

My #1 request for career retrospective is Nikolai Khabibulin. :D

@lil_bear 10 ай бұрын

Brett Hull in Chicago would of been awesome.

@baohoaily 10 ай бұрын

Wow what a draft class. 🎉🎉🎉

@frankiew.b.9640 10 ай бұрын

Roy and Brodeur would have made Devils a blocking nightmare. The thing is, they would have shared the net one after the other, and Brodeur may never have the all-time win record. Would have won them a couple more cups, though, that's for sure.

@darkoanton5 10 ай бұрын

I'd put Suter at four and perhaps three. He used to log in the high twenties in minutes.

@TheScotian82 10 ай бұрын

That theoretical top 5 has to be the best ever.

@rcl1955ca 10 ай бұрын

Some of the unwritten, in other sports are interesting. In football they do run up the score and while it's usually against lower division teams this years' Orange Bowl with Georgia beating undefeated Florida State 63-3 and doing likewise in the championship game in 2022 beating TCU 65-7 so they do run it up even against good teams. In fact the announcers wonder if there's something wrong if the team doesn't win big, particularly at the college level. In basketball ball I wonder if there is some animosity if a player scores 50+ points and the team loses. It's like Doughty saying some players are only concerned with 'their' stats.

@lankancheetah 10 ай бұрын

So if draft had worked out like this, in 1994 Rangers would’ve screamed « Richer! Richer! Richer! » instead of « Matteau! Matteau! Matteau! »…different Stephane.

@aeronitz 10 ай бұрын

I am just waiting for you to redraft the '89 draft.

@brianferris7859 10 ай бұрын

I would like to see a MacPherson story either here or on the Entertainment guy. Odd story

@chasem-jw9rn 5 ай бұрын

Why didnt you do the 89 draft?

@THE_bchat 10 ай бұрын

Redrafts are interesting, but it's really just re-ranking the players taken that year. It ignores what teams might have needed, or a particular preference a GM had. For example, if the team needed a defenseman but the GM didn't like US-born players, or if they needed a right winger but didn't want a guy who shot left-handed.

@dvotzmusiccompilationsandc5647 10 ай бұрын

I feel like Brown should have been higher but as an Islanders fan I can't complain

@loltrope3266 10 ай бұрын

u should make a video serie call : NHL WHAT IF

@sylvainbougie7269 10 ай бұрын

Kathleen Kennedy will ruin it. 😅

@MOTORCITYBIG1 10 ай бұрын

Burr was a solid team player. but i would have picked Al in the re pick he is a detroiter

@GreatWhiteRaider 10 ай бұрын

Richer has to slip one more spot to Quebec in this draft.

@dw1784 10 ай бұрын

To think, all of these players you redrafted had better careers than Daigle, Stefan, and Dipietro!

@Crushbra 9 ай бұрын

Brett Hull going to his dad's team. Nepotism.

@4.0.7.7 10 ай бұрын

Not a chance I’d take Roy over Brett Hull. Brett Hull by a country mile.

@madeinedmundston 10 ай бұрын

Iafrate shot was the bomb.Would likely have bust the 110 mph with a carbon fiber stick. He did 105.2 with good ol koho revolution 😂.

@jeffreylewis8019 10 ай бұрын

Wild Thing!

@humankirk9196 10 ай бұрын

Roy and Lemieux are a tossup for #1 in the redraft. They are both generational talents and franchise players that led their respective teams to multiple Stanley Cups. Both teams went into oblivion when they lost that player. Penguins nearly went bankrupt; Montreal will only go bankrupt when hell freezes over (or when the Nordiques win the Cup) but they certainly have never recovered, even until now.

@father042 11 ай бұрын

2 Czechs in first round, nice

@BandW1897 10 ай бұрын

Not so many Garys and Kirks in modern day NHL..

@christhornycroft3686 11 ай бұрын

Why did Robitaille fall so far? He was 6'1 wasn't he? I know it was the 80s, but that's not tiny. Gretzky was only 6'. Was he just a late bloomer?

@HALberdier17 11 ай бұрын

He lacked speed is why he drafted so late.

@Statsy10 10 ай бұрын

Yes, my understanding was that it was concerns with his skating.

@keepitlinyear 10 ай бұрын

one could argue patrick roy goes 1st overall if you care about winning cups more than any other factor. (but mario lemieux was responsible for saving Penguins franchise. no way patrick roy would have done that)

@chrisod22 11 ай бұрын

Couldn't resist drafting Kirk McLean, huh? 😄

@clydeblair9622 11 ай бұрын

Wasn't Burke a top goalie?

@Koopa3000 10 ай бұрын

He was drafted 1985. The player THG mentioned was Shawn Burr.

@clydeblair9622 10 ай бұрын

@@Koopa3000 oops

@jamesjoste5959 11 ай бұрын

It bothered me to see you put Brett Hull's name next to that logo.

@bobstrandell3116 10 ай бұрын

I don't know many of this players i am only born 93

@NRTHKR 10 ай бұрын

embarrassed the nhl tonight

@seanreilly7971 10 ай бұрын

It’s funny how bad the Hartford Whalers were. But they was never bad enough. I grew up a Hartford Whalers die hard fan. But I never understood why we never ever tanked an entire season for a #1 overall!! Whalers would always Hang around for the Mark Greigs, or the Patrick Poulins of the drafts!!! Whalers/Carolina never ever had a #1 overall. Crazy!!