Two Norris Trophy and Hall of fame defensemen in the 1981 draft with Al MacInnis and Chris Chelios. Grant Fuhr was a solid goalie and may’ve gotten the Blues further in the playoffs if he didn’t get hurt.
@people38659 ай бұрын
As a Leafs fan, I loved Grant. It's so odd looking back at his stats now, and thinking "that was it?" He looked like a machine to me at the time 😂😂😂
@oggamer7359 ай бұрын
@@people3865Well fuhr did win vezina and William m Jennings trophy. Was winning i believe 5 stanley cup and had all Star games in maybe 10 years. I think he got few WC wins also. He was touted as the best goalie ever by wayne gretzky so yeah he was decent.
@mikemcgloin68299 ай бұрын
That 96 blues team is a great what if in NHL history
@thesilentz45749 ай бұрын
Appreciate these redrafts especially from eras before my time or when I was too young to know or recall them. 👍🏻 . I've found myself going back and watching last eras of games in all leagues I can as well. The differences and appreciation of past eras and players in the process
@maxrates9 ай бұрын
I've learned a lot about past eras on the online GM game websimhockey
@thesilentz45749 ай бұрын
@@maxrates Cool. Haven't heard of that one before. I'll search it
@InsignificantNick9 ай бұрын
"Doing a redraft!" "Why?" "Because I feel like it." "But there's nobody here." "Even better."
@hobobread35639 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Hockey Patton Oswalt! 😁
@rickyaz86409 ай бұрын
Butch Goring award for best in-season acquisition needs to be a reality
@oilersridersbluejays9 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Probably the first serious trade deadline deal and probably the best one.
@RichardDeBruyn-i3p9 ай бұрын
8 of those players played for Buffalo at times. Dave Hannan with the only goal in that 4 overtime game against New Jersey.
@curtwenzlaff7109 ай бұрын
Garth Butcher was such a soldier for Vancouver. The 80's were not kind for the Canucks, but Butcher played his heart out every night, and sticking up for his teammates every time.
@GRChrzak9 ай бұрын
Named my first barbarian in D&D after Garth Butcher. Felt appropriate.
@psuley19779 ай бұрын
Love the redraft videos. Great stuff as always
@RRaquello9 ай бұрын
I remember the Whalers desperately wanting to draft Good Ol' New England boy Bobby Carpenter and expecting to get him at number 4. I think they had a Carpenter jersey and his father there to shake hands once the pick was made, but the Caps jumped in at the last minute and traded for the #3 pick and took Carpenter. The Whalers & the Carpenter family were incensed and threatened to sue to free him from having to go to the Caps but eventually were resigned to their fate. The Whalers were stuck taking Francis as a consolation prize, which turned out OK for them. I don't remember exactly what the deal was, but it looks like Washington switched places with Colorado. I don't know what Colorado got in return.
@normb71149 ай бұрын
It was great to hear you mention Normand Leveille, I remember watching him and just the toughness he displayed while playing. Terry O'Reilly once said that Normand could take a hit along the boards and still maintain control of the puck and make a play. It's tragic that his promising hockey career was cut short ...
@Yup57579 ай бұрын
Yeah, Tony Tanti scored 40 a couple times for Vancouver, but the Canucks never got past the Division Semi-Final the few times Vancouver made the Playoffs with Tanti. While in Chicago , Fraser played in two Conference Finals with the Hawks and was a prominent member of the Clydesdale Line. With two linemates that went on to win a Ring with other teams.
@richwheeler76459 ай бұрын
Love these videos. Getting old is weird, seems like yesterday. Thanks Shannon, great stuff!
@SverigeiSverige9 ай бұрын
Best season, yes Dale. But best career Ron and Chris.
@whaleoilbeefhooked38929 ай бұрын
1st time I've watched an ENTIRE video of yours....the older times was 'my' time. Great video!
@loltrope32669 ай бұрын
i like the fact that he do some old redraft!
@mikewebsdale47779 ай бұрын
Here we are in the way back machine send it feels good.
@nicholasbrown70689 ай бұрын
Interesting seeing Petri Skriko redrafted to the Bruins, a team later on for a short time he played for.
@williammartin2349Ай бұрын
love seeing you take Gallant at 10. I have met Turk numerous times and he is an all round great dude
@srednuasrmit9 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention Scott Arniel’s name for the St.Louis 20th pick. Hahaha. Had to zoom in to see who you selected.
@WolverineIncognito8 ай бұрын
I like how you do the re-draft on the spot(ish). Adds an interesting flair.
@charleyblanchette82988 ай бұрын
About Normand Léveillé, I've something to share with you hockey fans. I'm from Drummondville QC, and in my hometown we have a big institution named after him. Centre Normand Léveillé is home to couple hundreds of people who got brain dammaged accidents or any severe handicaps. That's a great "hommage" to remember how future could be shorten by injuries. I remember crying that night when Raymond Bourque pratically carried him on the ice for his last apperence as a Boston Bruins. What a moment it was !!!!!
@quadrapayunir9 ай бұрын
Fuhr absolutely deserves that spot...love the hindsight
@scottmurrell73679 ай бұрын
Love these re-drafts. I think your draft is pretty good. I'm not gonna nit pick and argue one guy shouda gone one spot higher or lower. Can I suggest you do the '03 draft? Talk about loaded!
@Actionronnie9 ай бұрын
Chris Chelios going 2nd in the redraft is kinda funny, cause that was Detroit's original pick. If you dig deep into that, Detroit really screwed themselves signing Rogie Vachon who was a RFA from LA and a bust for them. Comp for LA was Dale McCourt, who didnt report to the kings. Sued the NHL and the wings who he was still playing for. LA trades him back to the Wings for a player and two firsts even though he was still a Wing 🤷 The other pick LA got from Detroit was Larry Murphy.
@ianross8068 ай бұрын
The Flyers drafted Steve "the Baby Bull" Smith, a defenceman from the Soo Greyhounds. The redraft is the Steve Smith who played for the London Knights. Same age, same league, played at the same time. And how you slot Dave Hannan to Montreal ahead of Mark Hunter???
@ryguyful9 ай бұрын
I really like Duchesne as well. A real hustler..not sure I ever saw him take a shift off.
@iFyvie9 ай бұрын
Always stumped me how Dougie Gilmour's nickname was 'Killer' when Garth Butcher existed in the same universe. Butcher actually looked like a Serial Killer. Played like one too.
@Calebelle9 ай бұрын
Always love the redrafts, but a few comments on this one: 1. You misspelled Pivonka’s first name (it’s spelled Michal) 2. Iafrate went FROM the Caps to the Bruins - he was traded for Joe Juneau 3. You dropped Iafrate too low 4. Sylvain Cote had a few seasons with a lot more points than a “defensive defenseman” (As you can see from these comments, I grew up a Caps fan)
@WolverineIncognito8 ай бұрын
I’m curious, when you do the live re-draft, how big is the pool of players you are picking from?
@KMK73559 ай бұрын
1981 draft was heavily a 1963 birth year as 1961 and 1962 players were drafted in the 1980 draft which Chelios and Kurvers were overlooked.
@ScarecrOmega9 ай бұрын
Had to look up Normand Leveille, wow didn't know about that and he looked like he would have had a solid playing career, that sucks.
@kcrowther149 ай бұрын
Beezer was great ❤ I'll take it!
@kevinstull85529 ай бұрын
This draft was in the same year as I was born. Man I'm feeling old now 😂.
@Peksisarvinen9 ай бұрын
In regards to Fuhr, yes he was that good, but yes he also benefited greatly from playing for the dynasty-era Oilers. So a little bit of column a, and a little bit of column b. Although I guess you could make the argument that if he played for a more defensively minded team, his overall numbers could've been better, but he would probably have not won as much.
@obelisk219 ай бұрын
Grant Fuhr's game was only debated by fans of other teams who never saw him play game in and game out. There is a reason the Oilers put up the offensive numbers that they did... no one was playing defence. He was named to two Canada Cup teams and was brilliant in the 87 Canada Cup which featured the famous Gretzky to Lemieux goal. He was also in net for the NHL all-stars in both games of the Rendez-Vous 87 series against the Soviets. He also finished second to Lemieux in Hart voting for the 87-88 season. At a time when goaltenders relied on athletic ability and skill to stop pucks rather than positioning and technique Fuhr was a difference maker. In 1998 the Hockey News had him ranked 70th on the top 100 players of all time. Guys who never even made the list were Ron Francis and Al MacInnis. You could make an argument to take Francis ahead of Fuhr but in my opinion not MacInnis.
@pierrepellerin2499 ай бұрын
Cool, this would have been my draft year if I had played hockey and had been good enough. Thing is, I had two left foot :)
@SylviusTheMad9 ай бұрын
Shannon and I must be roughly the same age, because this is probably the first full season I remember, as well.
@Rockhound61659 ай бұрын
The Flyers first round pick in this draft, Steve Smith, had 1 point in his NHL career.
@people38659 ай бұрын
Oh man! I have to say I'd take Ron Francis at one. That man was so underrated, his entire career (still is), its unreal. Hes definitely most underrated of all time.
@anthonylipari79679 ай бұрын
can you do 1989 redraft. would love to see that
@jeremydanchuk18979 ай бұрын
I swear THG does these to cause me pain, watching all those former Oiler greats being moved to other teams.
@ZappaSheik9 ай бұрын
Waiting for 1989 and 1999 with Z going first and the Sedins still going to the Canucks
@darkoanton59 ай бұрын
I'd put Hawerchuk at #4. I'd probably go MacInnis, Chelios, Francis, Hawerchuk.
@KMK73559 ай бұрын
Wonder how high Mr. Irrelevant of the 1980 draft (Andy Brickley) would climb in a re-draft?
@JohnnyReno719 ай бұрын
Beezer!!!!Nice
@deathmachineyt32549 ай бұрын
Interested to see the differences to the actual draft
@safertobeanonymous22249 ай бұрын
Drop,off from Fuhr to John V and Vernon is one of the biggest drop offs in the history of the redraft! I don’t think it’s just oilers fans who’d suggest he’s at least as good as the top 4 guys.
@joeb21519 ай бұрын
The Flyers were making bad first round picks 40 years ago too? COME ON.
@dvotzmusiccompilationsandc56479 ай бұрын
I just do redrafts on my phone sometimes when I’m bored. Also it’s bold of you to assume I have a wife or am even anywhere close to getting one.
@SombraPiloto9 ай бұрын
One of the few picks by the Whalers who actually played like a Hall of Famer while he was in town. They had a nose for mediocrity when drafting in the first round.
@choppergunner86509 ай бұрын
I really want to see the 1983 redraft. Which team would get the absolute bust Brian Lawton?
@blatty26469 ай бұрын
Wow Normand Léveillé’s career was cut short at 19 by a brain aneurysm. Thats so sad man. He couldn’t walk initially but made a full recovery and opened an institute for people with brain injuries
@KevinJL9 ай бұрын
Normand Léveillé you mentioned him in a previous video before. Sad.
@kaptaan_original9 ай бұрын
Ron Francis #2 in my book. Tony Tanti should be no. 8. Tanti would have had a much better career on a better team but even still he was a force even as a Canuck.
@Feeldaburn9 ай бұрын
That’s a name I haven’t heard in years he was fun to watch as a penguin
@TheScotian829 ай бұрын
I think Beezer and Vernon were both way better than Fuhr, personally. Think Edm wins any fewer cups with one of them?
@TheHockeyGuy9 ай бұрын
Edmonton didn't play defense. Fuhr's numbers were hurt by that. I have no idea how many Cups they win without him.
@klompsauce9 ай бұрын
Oh!
@peterolbrisch89709 ай бұрын
A video on top ten trade deadline deals would be interesting.🤔
@leechap39 ай бұрын
It would add interest if along the way you would mention who was actually drafted in each spot.
@TheHockeyGuy9 ай бұрын
It's written on the board...
@leechap39 ай бұрын
@@TheHockeyGuy It's hard to see.
@clydeblair96229 ай бұрын
No Wings pick?
@TheEgganator3248 ай бұрын
Do 2002
@The_Omegaman8 ай бұрын
"Leafs had some good goalies" in the 80s 😂😂😂😂😂 are you kidding me?
@Zamppa869 ай бұрын
I could never pick Chelios over MacInnis. Both ended up being legends of course but MacInnis was just better.
@Oxmen339 ай бұрын
Can you please do 1992?
@mike045748 ай бұрын
chelios greatest player from this draft
@mike045748 ай бұрын
dale hawerchuk over chelios?
@v4v8198 ай бұрын
I'd take Chelios then Francis then Mr Big Shot then Ducky...Speaks of the strength of this draft, and an embarrassment of HOF wealth...
@SonOfTamriel9 ай бұрын
I love these re-draft videos. I would have a hard time with Hawerchuk or Francis going #1
@LigerZeroShnider9 ай бұрын
HOW ducky is a goal in the nhl
@keepitlinyear9 ай бұрын
i don't agree with dale hawerchuk being 1st. chris chelios and al mcannis always made the team canada/usa. hawerchuck was not picked many times by team Canada. also Ron Francis could argue he had better career overall.
@ericwittman39 ай бұрын
Stop traffic. Flyers have a first round pick in 1981. And, of course they draft a guy with ZERO upside who scores 1 goal in 4 years.
@KMK73559 ай бұрын
Doing red drafts begs the question. If you did a 1980 redraft before this 1981 version, Chemo is goes very high in the 1980 redraft as he was born in 1962 and was eligible for the 1980 he was NOT DRAFTED IN!!!! Same applies for Tom Kurvers.
@KMK73559 ай бұрын
Damn auto correct, Chelios not Chemo.
@CharismaticDadАй бұрын
Hey you never did 1982!
@captbloodbeard8 ай бұрын
Vernon > Vanbiesbrouck
@4.0.7.79 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t take Grant Fuhr in the first round let alone 5th
@8932630079 ай бұрын
Chelios ahead of Macinnes is ridiculous. MacInnis was almost twice as productive, especially in the playoffs. About the same defensively.
@TheHockeyGuy9 ай бұрын
Chelios played for 26 years, had nearly 3000 penalty minutes and won three Cups as well as three Norris trophies. MacInnis had one Norris and one Cup.
@8932630079 ай бұрын
@@TheHockeyGuy Wow then Karlsson and his Norris's must be better than Weber, Doughty, Hedman, Josi, etc. Or Lowe and his cups.
@Disturbed1TV9 ай бұрын
Trolls be trolling. I agree with your assessment. Thanks for the great work Shannon.
@TheHockeyGuy9 ай бұрын
How many Cups does Karlsson have?
@maxrates9 ай бұрын
Chelios was better in his own end, but I will give you that MacInnis is underrated. He played on small market teams and Chelios got a lot of attention as he was on 3 original 6 teams.