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@Jrdn.A3 жыл бұрын
Respect for sharing with us. This is hard to watch, can't imagine how you all must be feeling. Really enjoy your candid videos and can't wait to see you rebuild this beautiful tank.
@roberttrudel26793 жыл бұрын
So sorry for you loss. It's so sad when something like that happens. Sending you positive vibes.
@geofflee2163 жыл бұрын
My condolences. RIP to all the little guys. That was one phenomenal tank
@glowwurm93654 ай бұрын
Respect for sharing this with everyone, its good to know that even someone as experienced as yourself can have a crash... some would attempt to hide this, but the fact you've taken it as an opportunity to share with the community is what makes your channel worth watching IMHO.
@coochieman78803 жыл бұрын
bro i’m 21 now.. i can’t imagine losing corals i’ve been growing since i was 14or 15. my heart goes out and props to letting it be a lesson and not just completely destroy your outlook on it. hope that thing gets back up and going better than before 💪🏼
@sallyostling3 жыл бұрын
It happens to everyone. I'm sorry for your loss!! My worst crash was salinity was 1.35 and killed nearly everything. We allowed it to essentially recycle and go feral. It came back BEAUTIFUL and we rebuilt.
@fritosgaming11 ай бұрын
How long did that take
@micro-reefsaquariums51693 жыл бұрын
You have a totally great attitude about keeping positive about the chaos that arrived, we call that Growth Mind Set. You are steering away from the fixed mind set and I know you will prevail. Your shop is beautiful I see you take so much care of your drygoods how organized they are so I know how your tank must have been so gorgeous. I have empathy when I hear you say how long you had these corals, that makes me feel what you feel, you will bounce back and please share with us any new updates.
@Jessmosis3 жыл бұрын
This is always the part of the hobby we must share to everyone. Everything doesn't always go 100%, no matter if you're new or years into the hobby. Mini oceans can change in an instance. Hope most of what you salvage lives and happy reefing my dude, good watch.
@mr.savage86663 жыл бұрын
So sorry for you loss. That was a beautiful system. Sending positive vibes. my thoughts are maybe clam
@Jtone_philthy_aquatics3 жыл бұрын
Same here! I just asked him if he had any clams in the 90 or the growouts down stairs. I can’t remember if he did
@younggunner19583 жыл бұрын
Gutten for you guys man , came to this store about a month ago and was impressed . Respect for sharing this keep up the good work! 💯
@beachsidereefer66853 жыл бұрын
Wow, sorry for the loss. Positive vibes!
@tatooz529673 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry for your loss. I watch every video and have learned so much from you and your team. I am now learning about bouncing back and not giving up. I hope you figure it out and don’t blame yourself. Some times shit just happens.
@NanoTankReefer3 жыл бұрын
Oh crap! So sorry to see this dude. Onward and upward, you have a good positive mental attitude and that's great to see given the situation 💪 I personally would be having a mental breakdown 🙈
@devinluke33113 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear! I remember seeing that tank a year back and loved it. Best of luck on the new one!
@04luppy3 жыл бұрын
Found your channel from this video, sorry about the crash of the system. I'm new to the marine scene and made a ton of mistakes, but through this video you've gained a subscriber in me just from the way this video is conducted. Hopefully you can bounce back and look forward to seeing more from your channel. Take care
@MHoran863 жыл бұрын
Really sorry for your loss. I only got into the hobby 3 years ago and since I started I've had 3 tank crashes. 2 tanks actually cracked(32gal biocubes and their horrible curvef corner designs....2 tanks both break in the same place), both brraking the week of a large shipment + haul from coral shows. Lost close to everything and it did alot of damage to the house. I stayed in the hobby and continued to acquire coral, splitting what I had left and could fit between two 20gal nano AIO(one as a display tank another as a coral grow out). A year went by the tanks had pushed through any alage/bacteria issues + growing pains.... until one morning I discovered cloudy water, a dead shrimp and corals covered in slime. Return pump died the night before and by the next day they had been cooking in 90+ degree water. Took everything out and surprisingly was able to save some of what I thought was lost. Since then I've acquired gear and planned a bigger build but starting has been an off and on debate, constantly worried to start until I have everything properly planned for any type of worse case scenario. Going through such a tragedy truly is a punch to the gut. Hours on hours, years of learning, selecting, and maintaining just to have little to show. It's definitely a moment where you either pick yourself up and try again or hang up the towel. So congrats on pushing through. I doubt I have any experience that you don't have already, but besides preparation for worse case scenarios, having a seperate system is something I'll probably always stick with, even though it means extra work. It allows you to have a life line, as well as move coral around and see if they do better in other parameters without having to change that tank to their liking. Again, sorry for you loss. I've wanted to see your store since I found the channel and once I'm able to travel again, I look forward to shaking your hand
@StNovaSt3 жыл бұрын
Jeez man! So sorry. Good outlook. Do a mini series on starting over the tank for beginners. Daily vlog type stuff.
@haroontariq903 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss! Hang in there March! Hope you will bounce back more strongly..
@thereefsterofficial Жыл бұрын
Respect on sharing this.. you sir deserve to be followed!
@timfitzpatrick37243 жыл бұрын
Hi March...so sorry for the loss....on a positive note just seeing this video reminds me how much I LOVE your store and coral selection! The main display that is still 100% in tact is gorrrgeous as usual and I will be ordering some corals from it tommorow!!!!!!!!!!! I think your attitude to turn a negative into a positive is stellar! Go For It! Bring it back EVEN BETTER then before....we all love our cars ..UNTIL WE BUY A NEW ONE! lololol Again sorry for your loss and sorry for the animals that died in the tragedy of course too... Faster you move forward the faster this will be behind you...BEST OF LUCK MARCH and YOUR WONDERFUL TEAM of employees that do a spectacular job on the service end of things every single time I have dealt with them! CHEERS.
@davidvaughan37712 жыл бұрын
Your delivery is the key
@atfinthehouse86313 жыл бұрын
Electrical short. Things died then the cascade? 🤷🏻♂️. So sorry to see this and hear it.
@fragboxcorals3 жыл бұрын
you nailed it
@Chris-zi9bb3 жыл бұрын
Sorry that happened! Good luck on the rebuilding, looking forward to watching the build....
@garrettnickles90703 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss, it’s almost unbelievable how fast that happened.
@Re5p3c73 жыл бұрын
Damn, I was hoping it was a click-bait... I am sorry for your loss, March. I don't know what I want more now - to know what cause it or to see it being rebuild for the better. Keep us updated! And best of luck rebuilding!
@fishpony12113 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss bro. Your positive attitude will take you further then you have already got in this hobby. Great example to set for new reefers. Shit happens and making the best of it is what sets you apart from the rest!
@roadtripperbrooxy3 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely terrible! I’m terribly sorry for your loss :( I admire how you still find a way to stay positive :) I hope things straighten out!
@ZaneSchoonraad3 жыл бұрын
Damn dude this is so sad and sorry to see but honestly... Can't wait to see you bounce back and follow the new build! This will make an Awesome series! All the best from South Africa
@dlegarern13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Please let us know what the trigger was if you find out.
@smokeandkippers3 жыл бұрын
You’re remarkably upbeat and I really respect that.
@shoja72643 жыл бұрын
You are an Awesome channel!!!! I’ve gone through several crashes and I do have those quitting thoughts. But the remaining coral that I always have keeps me going 🥺😍
@petermoorhouse18233 жыл бұрын
March man!! Sorry for your loss buddy, iv been there before man, in Australia where i live in summer it can get to 50 degrees in the shade. So while I was at work my chiller fucked up, my water was over 40 degrees lost everything, but i didn't give up ,still going strong KEEP ON REEFING
@Algaewarrior3 жыл бұрын
So sorry for your loss. This is truly gut wrenching. I hope you find out what happened.
@syte_y2 жыл бұрын
Just going through some of your older videos. I’m sorry this happened man, but respect your attitude towards the situation
@MrRandallDish3 жыл бұрын
Keep your head up! Love the positivity to keep moving forward and rebuild.
@GreenNGoldFever3 жыл бұрын
Never met you, but you seem like a hell of a guy. Good luck on the rebuild!!! If anyone can do it, it’s you and your team!
@joesreef70893 жыл бұрын
That sucks what happened. Do you have tips on getting coral I have a cycled tank with clownfish I added about a week ago. I did a water change yesterday after a week and hope to get coral today. Do I have to add any chemicals or can I just add coral?
@kiswanson3 жыл бұрын
With that kind of really rapid death I would think it would have to be a very toxic addition to the tank or electrical issue. No matter what it really sucks. I loved seeing updates on that tank. I was just feeling comfortable with my tank and now I'm thinking I need to double check everything. Hopefully you get some answers so we'll all know what how to prevent a similar occurrence. As always, love the videos and wish I could order from your store.
@paisleykitty73 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brutal. So sorry for all your loss.
@elizabethwatson713 жыл бұрын
Dude, big tears. No joke, I have only fresh water tanks but fellow fish folks feel your pain. I’m so sorry. Best wishes, and look forward to your rebuild
@rhinosreef47363 жыл бұрын
That’s sucks man I’m sorry you’ll bounce back stronger thank you for sharing a lot of places wouldn’t
@richardbailey33433 жыл бұрын
Check your pumps etc for electrical shorts that can cause dramatic loss of coral. Regards
@the.humble.reefer72303 жыл бұрын
Man that blows. Keeping it real and that's the good, bad & ugly. I sure hope you find the cause.
@EfReez3 жыл бұрын
March - Having recently discovered your business and being inspired by your knowledge and love of the hobby I'm sorry to hear of this terrible circumstance. I've no doubt you'll be able to build better and safer and hopefully you can uncover more into the root cause (and in turn help us hobbyists understand what can go wrong)
@criticalreef13723 жыл бұрын
Absolutely gutted for you guys, we all know you'll bring the tank back stronger, just a shame this had to happen ☹
@johnbrand18933 жыл бұрын
Send off a sample of water for al ICP test, for sure you’ll find out the cause of this disaster. 😔🏴
@Jtone_philthy_aquatics3 жыл бұрын
Too bad he didn’t get to send one in last night before the ph dropped (or immediately after) now the water is so contaminated with all of the corals/ fish that died it might not be a clear answer. Really a bummer man. This hobby will humble even the best sometimes
@jongordon35073 жыл бұрын
@@Jtone_philthy_aquatics If a massive amount of healthy coral die off I don't think you would see a large heavy metal release. Never heard of that. If the ICP shows heavy metals then all the equipment should be examined really closely before being used again.
@knwr3 жыл бұрын
@@jongordon3507 Yea a random spike in heavy metal in a closed system would be highly unlikely. Maybe if a water change was done or the auto top off is connected direct to the property's water something could get in for one reason or another.
@jestronixhanderson98983 жыл бұрын
15 years in the hobby here, you can have the perfect tank and know your shit and have this happen. Happened to me a month back out of no where! Personally it’s what keeps me in the hobby. This is why I’m setting up a second tank, avoid a total wipe out. Pat on the back from an old reefer here. Also jury is still out of hand sanitizers! Seeing lots of crashed tanks since covid. Wash ya hands and it’s still up under your nails
@jongordon35073 жыл бұрын
@@knwr Heavy metal spikes happen all the time when equipment hits a breaking point and fails... We always have many magnets in our aquariums that will leach at some point. Cheaper equip often fails soonerm
@Brimmlinn3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an ICP test on that system. Also, what kind/brand/size is that display tank that crashed? I’ve always loved that tank. :(
@fragboxcorals3 жыл бұрын
bagged some water right after it happened going to send it off
@deanfielding44113 жыл бұрын
@@fragboxcorals please publish the results.
@Chris-zi9bb3 жыл бұрын
@@fragboxcorals Did a sea cucumber die in the tank? They can release poision and wipe a tank out.
@Kommeng2000 Жыл бұрын
What type of tank are those in the basement? Great Videos by the way! Been a fan and wanting to start a reef store somewhere in the midwest of US!
@alanharrison65553 жыл бұрын
heart goes out to you guys.
@alex-j-cole3 жыл бұрын
Wow this was my muse tank! Sorry for the loss, I hate this hobby sometimes… as always though I’m impressed with your candor and positive attitude.
@TheFiSHDocToR3 жыл бұрын
Maybe, reminds me of a massive coral spawning event that wiped out a friend's, clients 400 reef.
@Jtone_philthy_aquatics3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even think of that!! Clams have been known to mess tanks up due to spawning events as well!!! Good point
@bigmuvver3 жыл бұрын
Mate, Gutted for you, been there!! Like the positivity, like the Phoenix coming out of the fire.
@louisverheem42533 жыл бұрын
Terrible man! I am so sorry for your loss! Have you considered taking a water sample and sending it for a ICP? I know it's too late but maybe you can get an idea of what went wrong, elevated iron, bacteria, toxins etc...
@reddawn71283 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the loss one door closes another opens
@christianwall71813 жыл бұрын
Ouch. Sorry for what happened and the loss of your corals, fish and other critters. Given what you have shown, even if some of your more precious corals do recover, I do not think the title could ever count as click-bait. Is it possible something chemical has fallen in with a loose cap? Most of your videos have shown three bottles above the tank - 19 August for example - now there are only two.
@Rob_Wills_Solihull_Reefer3 жыл бұрын
Mate,the funny thing is as I was watching this I said to my wife this is palytoxin,two minutes later you mentioned the purple deaths which is literally what happened to me one Saturday afternoon,doing maintenance on my reef tank and decided to split a bunch of purple deaths that were starting to grow over other corals.I have been in the hobby close on 20 years and the devastation within a few hours,well I certainly have never seen anything like it,all my plating montis,huge birdsnest literally turned white overnight,chalice lost colour but I do still have them and they have regained colour,this happened around 6 months ago.I did put heaps of new reef carbon in a reactor,and ran the skimmer around the clock,it took the tank around a week to settle,I didn't lose any fish,or oddly any acropora.I am extremely convinced it was palytoxin.On a positive note my reef looks great again,unfortunately i still have a bunch of those purple deaths.
@artistic_spaz37243 жыл бұрын
Omg 😲 I'm new to the hobby and have been looking to you for advice and knowledge as I learn the ropes and I must say, for you to say you don't know what happened is absolutely terrifying! I'm so sorry that you have to go through this.
@jasoncolliver36483 жыл бұрын
things CAN go sideways but for things to go THIS badly in a home system would be rare. March was running a massively packed system in a store, with two large tanks plumbed together and hundreds and hundreds of corals and various organisms. The volume of life alone makes keeping the system much more complex. Someone like you, just getting into the hobby, would generally have much less to worry about going wrong.
@HoHkennels3 жыл бұрын
Aww man. Sorry that happened to you. To think I almost gave up on saltwater based on my learning tank. Not I have three saltwater tanks. Do you ship coral?
@angelnieves60873 жыл бұрын
Terrible that it happened and hope you get to the bottom of the reason. But great attitude on redoing abs getting back to the drawing board. My thoughts and prayers to you chief.
@Loci3333 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭 I'm so sorry and proper gutted for you and the team. Hope the livestock you moved all pulls through.
@MW-ut3dk3 жыл бұрын
Do cctv cameras show any footage of tanks at time of ph drop? Any coral spawning event? Clam spawn? If palytoxin wouldn’t that have affected people who walked into the store afterwards considering how much was killed and how large the system is?
@richardtilbury62493 жыл бұрын
That sucks. I hope you figure out what went wrong - the paly theory is interesting. I look forward to seeing you coming back better and stronger.
@togish13 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the loss... So sad
@bearded-flipflop71223 жыл бұрын
That's a horrible situation, did you have and red planaria in the system somewhere as a friend of mine had a mass die off in his tank and it stank the whole house out. Plus it killed all his snails.
@Jaypilot1003 жыл бұрын
I had the exact same thing happen to me in Jan. I believe I had a hammer that shit itself and killed off the rest of the tank. It literally happened overnight. I just let the tank go. A few months later I had 1 leather that looked like it was turning around so I cleaned up the tank and it's beautiful today.
@ethanrussell31633 жыл бұрын
Man sorry to hear that, hope you figure out the cause and see if you can salvage some livestock, a lot stuff bounces back!
@cooksterni3 жыл бұрын
my word, that is crazy. I hope you recover stronger than before.
@johnkidd39753 жыл бұрын
Hey March, sad to see the one tank go, but when you went downstairs to the the farm I felt sick. So sorry this happened to you. I know (from your videos) you had a large collection of corals you were growing out in the basement. These corals were in some cases your favorites. Hopefully your local community will pull together and bring you back in some frags of your favorites to get you back up and running. It is a good reminder for me to put some carbon back in my system.
@dm0ney7433 жыл бұрын
I recently had that happen. But lost all my fish really sucks. Bought a qt tank the next day......lesson learned. On the bright side lots of video ideas for you guys to show the different process of setting up a reef tank
@Stralnikov3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Do not go in the basement without a half face mask respirator using carbon filters and eye protection, maybe a full face respirator. Zoas are a well known source of palytoxin. It can trigger conjuntivitis and major airway irritation including bronchospasm.
@sburge19893 жыл бұрын
Do you flush your dead legs frequently? Stagnant water can cause a buildup of harmful chemicals and bacteria in the tanks attached.
@deedubs6028 ай бұрын
I know the feeling. Had my Red Sea reefer do the same. Lost so many treasured corals, purple monster candy crush hurt the most. Never figured out what happened?
@dansmith96863 жыл бұрын
If you suspect coral warfare are you not super hesitant about putting those same corals into your health system?
@hetabattousai3 жыл бұрын
It happened to me once when my box buffer died. Do you have any fish or corals that can release toxic when dead? I don’t think poly or zoa can kill that big tank/sump in that short amount of time.
@laylauk26543 жыл бұрын
I feel for you, have you checked the heater, for me years ago my cracked bits of glass came off, We I return home I found very un happy even dead fish. It was a 6ft tropical tank. I was so gutted so I feel your pain. Now I'm tropical and reef tanks. Goid vibes from England
@farazali4543 жыл бұрын
Hey. Very sorry about the crash. Hope you find the problem !
@fansolate3 жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t put all those new coral with the display specially after coral dip is gonna release toxin to the system , but normally a big protein skimmer will help out, sorry for all the lost, keep it positive empty everything restart it again, store still looks great pretty much u lost 10% of what u own , still have the rest of 90% keep u going, u can do it brotha! I’ll follow u for sure, 1st time saw your channel and this negative accident attract someone like us, I guess is a good way…
@isaacfarmer71382 жыл бұрын
Wow that is frustrating. I’m new to the hobby and am dreading the first time I crash a tank
@brooklynrobotworks98663 жыл бұрын
Good attitude. Keep going.
@4runna-4X3 жыл бұрын
reminds me when u dump buffers without diluting, or dosing trace elements (with heavy a metals) ..dammit how unfortunate the video we didn't want to see..thanks for the upload and showing us the downs of the hobby/shop keeping
@joras74572 жыл бұрын
Any of those 2 bottles-leak, that are on top of the tank ?
@wadesims20003 жыл бұрын
So the fact that you told us you moved a powerhead to disturb those pallys that wouldn’t surprise me if that was the issue I’ve had this personally happen to me I disrupted a set of pallys that proceeded to begin melting and the entire tank exploded from it
@ricktokaji2003 жыл бұрын
that is horrible so sad for you all at the store guys can't wait for the rebuild though
@leonelreo3 жыл бұрын
Oh, sorry, man. I hope you discover what happened, I wish you much strength.
@aquamind99963 жыл бұрын
Wow. I feel bad right now, and those arent even my tanks. Stay strong man!
@richardportelli19833 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss. Get an icp test done.
@bobgutsch31343 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry, that's devastating to see and I'm sure your making yourself sound better than your probably feeling right now :-( question though, how come your apex didn't pick up on an issue in the tank and notify you of a problem? What's the point of having an apex if it can't save you from troubles like this?
@Jtone_philthy_aquatics3 жыл бұрын
Olaf made a good point that didn’t cross my mind spawning events have been known to cause huge problems weather it be coral spawning or clams. Did u have any clams in this system or in the grow outs down stairs?
@toddbruning56763 жыл бұрын
Last night was a full moon so spawning event is highly likely. However he did say that he had a sudden drop in ph in his tank yesterday afternoon, that alone would stress and kill a lot of corals fast.
@kchortu3 жыл бұрын
That sucks, hugs, good luck
@hurricaneaquatics3 жыл бұрын
Few ideas, I see one of three things happening. 1) I've seen anemones or similar, die and nuke the whole tank as they disentigrate. 2) Equipment failure and sent electricity through the tank and started a chain reaction of death. 3) Something contaminated the water system. With those open tanks, something could have fell through the ceiling, come in contact with the water supply, etc. I'm thinking number one as that tank was packed full. If you think about it, a dead invert sends off massive amounts of ammonia and that could have signaled the pallies to release toxin in a defense scenario and like a bad dream, chain reaction. Definitely, positively something contaminated the water.
@Wissperwind2 жыл бұрын
Had this too. I dosed too much Plus-NP by doing an error while setting up dosing and... Boom
@MikeyColon3 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh man! I'm so sorry. I wish I could help you - all I can do is send you good vibes. Hugs and greetings from NYC.
@thesaltexperience11533 жыл бұрын
And sorry for your loss
@BENK15153 жыл бұрын
So sorry to hear :( But stay strong! Think positive! And update with what happened
@innerbaconn86053 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you read our comments but I just wanna say that, this just happened to the sustainable marine in London with there big display there heater went out and I was thinking in my head it’s crazy how solid frag box is, it’s like they never have issues and than bam next day a crash lol I’m sorry this happened it’s happened to me as well it’s soul crushing I lost a 1000$ yellow tipped elegance that I’ll miss until I die.
@ahmad1q2w3e3 жыл бұрын
Hey man I’m sorry for your loss I was in a store today I can’t even believe it and I’m pretty sure you can get it back
@robkelman47043 жыл бұрын
Sorry this happened guys. Just a thought. Go through the electrical in case something shocked the system. Obviously be very carefull.
@c4snipar3 жыл бұрын
Why taking all the live rocks out? Just ruled out possible poisoning by a “customer”?
@legendaryc49173 жыл бұрын
How does taking the live rock rule that out as a possibility?
@justdabubbletip14523 жыл бұрын
Why did you get rid of the rock
@jamesbrewer67893 жыл бұрын
ICP test would be the way to go I think, just so you could rule out foul play. My condolences, I messed with alkalinity for 2 weeks and ruined a few pieces of sps and I took it as a self kick in the ass and also a learning experience. To put that much effort in for years, and have it end over night... A big oof and I'm sorry bro! Did you lose fish?