Top 8 Fish You'll Regret (And 11 Great Alternatives)

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Reef Dork

Reef Dork

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@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
Got a nano tank? How about these fish?? kzbin.info/www/bejne/i57Zd3aCjrmrr6c
@krazymuncher2288
@krazymuncher2288 4 жыл бұрын
What about dragonets?
@csouza1977
@csouza1977 4 жыл бұрын
KrazyMuncher they are a bit harder to keep as they need a lot of copepods in the tank
@erikcoetzee3231
@erikcoetzee3231 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do one on fish to keep in a 15 gallon 🤔 like to take care of algea ect
@Averageyoutuber_sls-fish-gt
@Averageyoutuber_sls-fish-gt 2 жыл бұрын
U will probably regret the purple tang alternative is the sailfin tang
@mo9158
@mo9158 Жыл бұрын
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@emerymorgan4389
@emerymorgan4389 4 жыл бұрын
I have two freshwater tanks that are thriving and I know nothing about reef tanks. But I’m gonna watch this anyways.
@TheHappySmileyFace12
@TheHappySmileyFace12 3 жыл бұрын
Ever since I got into saltwater I lost my interest in my freshwater planted tank, doesn’t even compete
@suzannecook9840
@suzannecook9840 Жыл бұрын
Ooooook
@russellgrant4544
@russellgrant4544 4 жыл бұрын
I kept a neon dottyback as a lone specimen in a nano reef tank and it was one of my favorite fish I've ever kept because of its bold nature and bright colors. I eventually moved it into a large community tank with fish much larger than it (large Koran angel and a yellow tang) to avoid it being a bully. Definitely wouldn't keep it with anything close to it in size though!
@CescaTheDarkHorse
@CescaTheDarkHorse 4 жыл бұрын
Have all these fish in my reef. My copperband has been in the reef for 4 years Lucky I have a lot of coral. :)
@krazymuncher2288
@krazymuncher2288 4 жыл бұрын
For a chromis alternative, you could keep pyjama cardinalfish. They school and are around the same size but imo aren't as active and stick to the rock work more.
@mandrew20111
@mandrew20111 4 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about a small group of fire fish. Beautiful colors and they swim together
@StudioGhibletz
@StudioGhibletz 3 жыл бұрын
Banggai's are great too and I think they're captive bred now
@shelbym6460
@shelbym6460 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is just out here releasing A+ content like it's no big deal
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын
😅🙏
@rob431
@rob431 4 жыл бұрын
😂 I think I have 5 of them fish on the list, it’s like you looked at my tank before you made this video, but I’m fish only
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@mothsocks4082
@mothsocks4082 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve literally just ordered my first marine tank! A Red Sea reefer XL! I’ve just found your channel and I’m absolutely hooked. You’re so informative to novice marine keepers like me! X
@brettbarrett2533
@brettbarrett2533 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most honest breakdowns of fish destined to die slowly and proper alternatives to try. Reef Dork is truly one of the hidden gems and a great added value to any list of youtube / Marine Biologists/ Hobbyists who are honest.
@wayneevery2176
@wayneevery2176 4 жыл бұрын
I have been doing this hobby for about 4 years and, I find your videos to be spot on with the time I have been doing this. with the tang and, some of the other fish and, they help me know more about the good fish I want in the future.
@jamesprescott1577
@jamesprescott1577 4 жыл бұрын
I actually don't have an aquarium. Just doing a bit of research.
@pelagicswimmer
@pelagicswimmer 4 жыл бұрын
I think one of the best shoaling fish are Ghost cardinals, if kept with larger fish like tangs they really do keep in a decent shoal. Some interesting alternatives put forward, I think success with a copperband is selecting the right tank mates and having a well established tank.
@chrish6659
@chrish6659 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this as I drive to the fish store to actually buy more fish for my tank! Great video, it’s a really thoughtful mindset to do this!
@eiurgretarsson9884
@eiurgretarsson9884 Жыл бұрын
had a pair of flame angels for years that didnt touch anything , and a flame hawkfish aswell , ..however the copperband never worked out for me ,fun video and nice to show alternatives.
@magalimckay4685
@magalimckay4685 Жыл бұрын
I got very lucky with my yellow tailed damsel. He's entirely peaceful. Admittedly he's the exception to the rule. Thank you for the suggestions! :)
@JeriDro
@JeriDro Жыл бұрын
2:13 Tang: "Worship me!" Chromis: "Yes, lord!"
@billybassman21
@billybassman21 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had good luck with Dottybacks. I will have to say the Damsel fish is one to avoid. I had one and it was a ruthless bully that wouldn’t back down even with fish that fought back. They are good to establish an aquarium and then you get rid of them, if you can catch them.
@Jaaaaayyy
@Jaaaaayyy 4 жыл бұрын
Flame hawk fish can be very aggressive towards other fish , I have one in my 40 gallon nuvo and can’t put any other fish with him or he will kill them in less then a day . Even tries to attack my snails and conchs . Could be just mine is just a nightmare also I guess but that’s my experience .
@bradsimpson8724
@bradsimpson8724 4 жыл бұрын
Flame wrasses are a peaceful red aquarium fish that I could recommend, even if they are a bit pricey.
@77MyEsha
@77MyEsha 4 жыл бұрын
I don't keep fish anymore, but I used tp some years ago. My one regret was introducing Angel fish to the tank with my other fish. Trust me, they look angelic but they don't live up to their name!! they started attacking and killing all my other fish. At first I couldn't track down who the culprit was, until one day I caught them at it!! If I ever decide to get fish again, I would stay well clear of Angles, unless they were on their own of course.
@therageheartshow2099
@therageheartshow2099 4 жыл бұрын
How come dragonets are not on the list? They starve easily without enough pods and even with a well established tank with pods hey can eat pods in the tank at a rate they will disappear from the display
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, 100% agree 👍
@stephend7
@stephend7 4 жыл бұрын
They will eat frozen fish eggs!!! I’m not experienced enough to really know, but I think you will still need pods because they pick and eat all day so they probably aren’t set up for once a day feedings.
@lordnems997
@lordnems997 4 жыл бұрын
They pretty easy to train and I do a decent job.
@stephend7
@stephend7 4 жыл бұрын
I bought pods after losing a couple. I bought them well before I bought him to let a stable population to grow. It wasn’t until later that I found out about the frozen fish eggs. Mine now eats fish food pellets.
@JosvanMeer
@JosvanMeer 4 жыл бұрын
They are actually quite easy to train on frozen food or pellets (my mandarin ate pellets), It requires only discipline and patience. Once they eat frozen or pellets they are set for life. Unless they suicide by anemone. RIP Queen Margaret.
@opethmike
@opethmike 4 жыл бұрын
I think that they only time I'd get a sixline wrasse would be for pest control in a frag grow out tank.
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love one for that
@annebartells777
@annebartells777 4 жыл бұрын
I have the rare six line wrasse. It leaves it's take mates alone
@razorreef6552
@razorreef6552 3 жыл бұрын
A schooling fish you might want to look at is the neon blue rainbow fish ( pseudomugil cyanodorsalis). It is small and reef safe. Inappropriate reefer has a video on them.
@animetronic6689
@animetronic6689 3 жыл бұрын
5:00 There is TWO exception though for the zebrasoma tangs. The dejardini and sail fin tangs get bigger than the blue tang. But most of the others are good.
@alfst5546
@alfst5546 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, wish I could have seen it a few years ago, because several of fish you mentioned, I have had in the past, and yes, I experienced exactly what you described, I had a bunch of Anthias all female, when one decided to turn into a male and boy did he rule the tank, sounds funny, but sad to see how it affected all the other fish.
@emmareyes8114
@emmareyes8114 Жыл бұрын
thought clownfish were the only ones able to produce sgender change
@77blacktrip
@77blacktrip 4 жыл бұрын
Red head Solon fairy wrasse are perfect. They look amazing. Swim round all day. Don't bury in the sand. And don't bother anyone else.
@Birdofthetacklebox
@Birdofthetacklebox Жыл бұрын
I was wondering I’ve heard a lot of people say snowflake eels are good beginner fish, and in my opinion snowflake eel are my FAVORITE fish so do you think there good beginner fish?
@ReefDork
@ReefDork Жыл бұрын
I have no experience with them I'm afraid
@Bullzor121
@Bullzor121 4 жыл бұрын
Great informative video! i like how you care and prioritise the health of fish before the keepers desire for colour and aesthetics :)
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
Easy to do in a hobby so full of colour 🙂
@rustyshackleford234
@rustyshackleford234 Жыл бұрын
I used to have a blue sapphire damselfish in my old 15 gallon nano reef. It lived peacefully with my two clownfish for over an entire year!
@atmoz_
@atmoz_ 2 жыл бұрын
I tried the pyramid butterflyfish... they both died very fast. Another store told me they are pretty difficult to keep as well.
@enzoalmeidadasilva5513
@enzoalmeidadasilva5513 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I got lucky, but my orchid dottyback is the most peaceful fish in my system, and it's quite a small tank 25 gallons with 5 fish. He attracts the attention of all visits and eats bristleworms every once in a while. Not to say they're always peaceful, but IMO it's the only dottyback that's always worth a try.
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
Orchid dottys are actually quite peaceful - I should have said it's not all dottys 🙂
@enzoalmeidadasilva5513
@enzoalmeidadasilva5513 4 жыл бұрын
@@ReefDork Do you think an orchid dottyback is compatible with a royal Gramma? I imagine the similar colors may cause agression.
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
@@enzoalmeidadasilva5513 I think they'd probably be OK in a reasonable sized tank (say 4 foot). They both have similar behaviour though - cave dwellers so in a small tank, I wouldn't risk it.
@ronbeatty516
@ronbeatty516 4 жыл бұрын
An Orchid Dottyback is a great reef fish, but it is the exception in the dottyback family, of course.
@Not_Hans
@Not_Hans 4 жыл бұрын
What an awesome video thanks for the Info I've wanted to get a reef tank going for some time now I've got a 180g aquarium already picked.
@alexanderbouwens2772
@alexanderbouwens2772 4 жыл бұрын
As a schooling fish I would like to sugguest the Zoramia leptacantha, no aggression and live long.
@erikawilson1154
@erikawilson1154 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Changed my mind on all the fish on my wish list 😆. Do you have a video about starter marine fish and clean up crew that can all be kept together? Thanks.
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын
How about a list of fish EVERY reef tank should have?? kzbin.info/www/bejne/enzUiGaNn710hJI
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын
And a list of awesome inverts... kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4DHi2p9nN98hrM
@erikawilson1154
@erikawilson1154 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReefDork thanks im a total newby. Never had a marine tank before. Are marines harder to keep than discus? (I was unsuccessful) but have successfully kept other cichlids with ease.
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын
From what I hear, Discus are a nightmare. If you just want to keep saltwater fish, they're not much harder than freshwater tropicals. Corals can be tricky but there are plenty of easy to keep corals to try out.
@erikawilson1154
@erikawilson1154 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReefDork Amazing thanks. Do you have a facebook page i can follow and bug you more when the time comes when i get my marine tank. Erika
@reefkeepingandeverythingelse
@reefkeepingandeverythingelse 4 жыл бұрын
I would add to the list the kleinii butterflys They may eat all your aiptasia But also they are quite unsafe with coral.
@petercashell4834
@petercashell4834 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Why can we see your wallpaper through the tank? Why no black background? What’s the thinking behind clear glass on both sides please? Peter
@travisrichardson1515
@travisrichardson1515 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda wish I had seen this vid before buying the sixline that I have subsequently nicknamed "The Wrassehole". Still probably the most colorful addition to my reef though :)
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@fellowreefer
@fellowreefer 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this info and have made me feel that I have definitely done my research to pick up what I should and shouldn’t have in my new 180 coming up soon.
@lilolmecj
@lilolmecj 4 жыл бұрын
Salim Parmar one fish he didn’t mention for schooling is flame fish. They are generally peaceful, although I would get 2 or 5. And they are ridiculous jumpers so a secure tank lid is a must. I do have a blue Tang, it was at Petco and suffering from tail rot. I got it for a give away price, quarantined for a month and now four months later it looks great. Now that is a pretty short time. I also have a Lavender Tang, I call it a girl. Her name is Trixie, and her colors are not bold, but she is beautiful, and she swims constantly when the lights are on. She adds a cool element to my 120 gallon tank.
@chrishardy8937
@chrishardy8937 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Thanks for the knowledge. Im looking at switching a 100l tropical to marine so getting as much info as possible. Want a pair of clowns(shock) cardinal and watchman goby to see how i get on with marine
@BigGuyAl007
@BigGuyAl007 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Alex. You choose all the lovely fish that's not reef safe lol. Your tank is looking good and a empire would look good! Keep going and what's next !
@animetronic6689
@animetronic6689 3 жыл бұрын
I think that a Pink streaked wrasse is an awesome alternative to six lines!
@lunes-1
@lunes-1 4 жыл бұрын
I had a purple dottyback and took over attacking everyone for two weeks. Mysteriously disappeared, i guess the others fish couldn't take it anymore and eat the dottyback on the night
@andyprem
@andyprem 4 жыл бұрын
WOW a potential coup detat?
@rednamalas5079
@rednamalas5079 4 жыл бұрын
I know the horrid reputation of the copper and butterfly should have made me not want one, but I still got one and I have to admit, I think I’m part of the 10% because he’s been living great for two years! He eats mysis and brine readily and is absolutely beautiful, however I am aware that most shouldn’t be kept and I am but a small minority. Great video though!
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
Stunning, stunning fish and that's why so many people try their luck! Well done for getting it right - must look awesome 🙂
@zafishguy5166
@zafishguy5166 4 жыл бұрын
I have a yellow coris wrasse a great fish to have but a note of their ability to disapear for 2 to 3 weeks when you add larger fish.
@shirtdirt1874
@shirtdirt1874 2 жыл бұрын
My six line only fights with my green chromis, which I have 7. He'll chase one and get confused and give up. That's about the only aggression I get with him.
@keithstie
@keithstie 4 жыл бұрын
You have a nack at busting my chops! Some of the obvious ones I knew, like the angels, and the dory (that I'm going to try small, with my 140, but plan on selling when it gets too big), but the damsels were a surprise. And what do you have against tangs?! 🤨 I've heard that the order you load your tank helps with shy or territorial fish. Awesome, helpful video!
@leerose6257
@leerose6257 4 жыл бұрын
Dont agree with the damsels you can group them all together as there are a few that mind there own
@420lovless
@420lovless 4 жыл бұрын
Damsels are savages... I swore I'd never put another in a tank of mine..
@leerose6257
@leerose6257 4 жыл бұрын
@@420lovless ive had no problem with mine dont bother any one just keep to there self even mr saltwater had added some to hes sps tank
@nicolec3126
@nicolec3126 4 жыл бұрын
@@leerose6257 My damsel stressed out my clown so much that he got ich :[ You're so lucky!
@420lovless
@420lovless 4 жыл бұрын
Lee Rose I find each fish is different. Some are passive and some are utter savages. I have a huge domino damsel that I wouldn’t dare put a smaller fish in with.. I said I’d never have anymore but I do like them under the right circumstances. Haha
@pauldeacon8764
@pauldeacon8764 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Alex! keep up the good work my friend! 😀👍
@maddoctor99
@maddoctor99 2 жыл бұрын
I miss my flame hawkfish. If I ever get back into the hobby it would be the first fish back in my tank. So much personality.
@phoenixamaranth
@phoenixamaranth 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good, no bs list of fish to not keep. We all want those beautiful ones like the angels or the blue tangs but yeah, they just don't work in smaller tanks and reef tanks.
@arsenioseslpodcast3143
@arsenioseslpodcast3143 2 жыл бұрын
tangs absolutely work in reef tanks. what are oyu talking about?
@phoenixamaranth
@phoenixamaranth 2 жыл бұрын
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143 Did you miss the "smaller tanks" part? Blue tangs get quite large and should not be kept long in small tanks as they outgrow them quickly. Sure lots of people don't care and have no issue torturing fish, but that's not me. It may not have been clear from my sentence structure but I meant small reef tanks as well. Was trying to distinguish both fish only and reef tanks of small size.
@el_guapo1318
@el_guapo1318 4 жыл бұрын
My six-line is actually the peacekeeper in my tank. My Midnight Clown (Female - I call her "The Darkness") is always getting aggressive with my Frostbite Clown (Male - "I call him "The Ghost"), and sometimes it gets to the point where she won't let the Frostbite leave one of the corners. When the Six-line (whom I am considering naming Doc Holiday) notices, he immediately places himself in between the two and pushes The Darkness away from The Ghost, and stays there for a while constantly getting in The Darkness' face until he is satisfied that she will behave for a while, and then goes about his day. If anyone else can come up with a good name for a peace keeping Six-line Wrasse, feel free to suggest it.
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
That's amazing! I love that sort of behaviour in reef tanks 👌
@bigadventure3797
@bigadventure3797 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! My Sixline does a similar thing when my Anthias are fighting. Him and my Bartlet will get in the middle of the trouble and break it up. I love watching it.
@el_guapo1318
@el_guapo1318 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigadventure3797 kinda makes you wonder. Are Six-lines really bad fish like peeps say, or is it that they are actually just tired of other fish's bs and proceeding to put their metaphorical foot down.
@bigadventure3797
@bigadventure3797 4 жыл бұрын
@@el_guapo1318 I think six lines get a bad rap because so many people have purchased them and just by the law of numbers there's going to be people that have had bad experiences. For example the Midas blenny is beloved by reefers but but when I tried to put one in my tank he terrorized all of his tank mates and I had to painstakingly remove him 3 days later
@gwild8712
@gwild8712 4 жыл бұрын
I think sixline are great, until you want to add another wrasse
@gungbojog6030
@gungbojog6030 4 жыл бұрын
Any wrasse suggestion that won't eat my shrimps or feather duster worms? Yellow wrasse wouldn't be a good suggestion
@EDKsurly
@EDKsurly Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I'll research these alt fish. Especially the butterfly
@guzzisan21
@guzzisan21 Жыл бұрын
As an alternative to Chromis I suggest fusilier damsels. They look almost anthia like and are peaceful schoolers
@klowranc
@klowranc 2 жыл бұрын
Wow glad I clicked on this video, thanks!
@jeffjeff5895
@jeffjeff5895 4 жыл бұрын
My first 3 fish i got: 2 damselfish and 1 of that purple with yellow tail. The purple one claimed my only rock and is bullying one of them and keeping him in a corner and it seems like the other damselfish is a good buddy with this purple one but they still do fight a bit
@jasong375
@jasong375 3 жыл бұрын
Hey great video. How are you getting that great shimmer in your tank with the T5s on? What’s your fixture/ bulb setup?
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын
It's a hybrid with a Kessil ap700. 2x blue plus and 2x coral plus
@seabedoasis
@seabedoasis 22 күн бұрын
Absolutely love sunburst anthias although I have had trouble getting them to eat in copper power
@hendrix38659
@hendrix38659 4 жыл бұрын
The naoko wrasse is one of the most aggressive fariy wrasse. If you add it you are pretty much never able to get another fairy wrasse.
@shineheretic
@shineheretic 3 жыл бұрын
Pacific blue eye rainbow fish is a good marine peaceful schooling fish I’d suggest
@johngalactus4014
@johngalactus4014 4 жыл бұрын
Mandarin Dragonet has to be one of those fishes to avoid (unless tank bred/raised)! They are challenging and I mean really challenging to get them eating unless you feed them live food such as copepods/brine but even so, they rarely eat until 'satisfied'. They usually lose their body fats & and die after a few months. I tried a couple but failed to get them eating. I even tried using the Paul Baldassano feeder method but the fish just refused to eat.
@TheDesertraptor
@TheDesertraptor 2 жыл бұрын
My 6 line is pretty calm. The most aggressive fish in my tank are the blue/green Chromis and sleeper goby who just has to take from from the mandarin when feed her
@moistrobot7901
@moistrobot7901 2 жыл бұрын
Emporer angelfish didn’t eat coral and we had him a good 2 weeks or 1 month but then ick got in our aquarium and it was wraps for the angel
@falcolf
@falcolf Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, it concreted my plan to get a Royal Gramma instead of an Orchid Dottyback!
@davidreeves644
@davidreeves644 3 жыл бұрын
I would do angels in a tank with weedy corals such as xenias if I were to try them.
@Peterrdee
@Peterrdee 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had 4 flame angels and my 4th is alive and it’s doing perfect with my potters, they do pick at eachother a bit but they aren’t dominant so it’s not a issue, I also have had a yellow tang for 4 years, and a fox face for 2
@Peterrdee
@Peterrdee 4 жыл бұрын
They are all still alive tho, I’m not saying they died 💀💀😂😂😂🐠🐠🐠🐠🐠
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful fish - I'd absolutely love one 😍. The potters is a beaut too 👍
@jonpinkerton5401
@jonpinkerton5401 4 жыл бұрын
Great job offering some alternatives
@mittro7097
@mittro7097 4 жыл бұрын
i think the pyramid butterfly fish is a great substitute for powder blue tangs than the copperbanded butterfly
@davidhudick3347
@davidhudick3347 3 жыл бұрын
What about Mono Fish for a reef tank? 300 gallons. I have 4 Tangs. Yellow, Blue, Mimic, and Ocean. 3 Clowns. 6 line wrasse. 4 PJ Cardinals. 4 Bang Cardinals. 1 Flame Hawkfish. Will the Mono’s work. I have 2.
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын
I've never had one or seen one. You don't see them very often in reef tanks - there's probably a good reason for that...
@davidhudick3347
@davidhudick3347 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReefDork they are doing fine. I want to add Green Reef Chromis. I like the way they school. How many do you recommend?
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidhudick3347 they don't tend to school particularly well and usually kill each other in I'm afraid
@Peterrdee
@Peterrdee 3 жыл бұрын
I have a flame angel, got him with a potters angel and they are doing amazing for me I love them 100%
@greenshades1234
@greenshades1234 Жыл бұрын
Wish I had a dollar for every time I heard someone say Chromis kill each other off. I’ve had 7 in a 90 gallon tank for over a year and they do great haven’t lost a single one. They definitely have a pecking order and I’ve seen few cases of battery and assault but no murders.
@meanmicro
@meanmicro 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 tanks with a copperband in each I’ve had them both for about 2 years no problems at all
@freddy9233
@freddy9233 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing and thank you! Yellow tang was one of the main reasons which made me transfer from planted tanks to reef tanks. I am planning on a 75 gallon with a sump, lengthening 120cms x 50 cms x 50 with lots of rock work. Is he going to be happy enough? He will ofcourse be my only tang along with some other small fish (clown , gobies etc ) The main king in the tank :) Literature is a little bit confused with some say that 55 gallons are fine and others talking about 100 gallons.
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
Ideally all tangs would have big tanks, but in my opinion you'll be absolutely fine. Worth adding last to avoid aggression to new fish, and feed nori regularly. Then you're good to go. You might need to move him on in the long term if he gets too big/aggressive. I think people are less 'Tang Police-y these days'
@freddy9233
@freddy9233 4 жыл бұрын
@@ReefDork I will may tell to the guy who is going to build the tank to increase the width by 10cm , making it 120 x 60 x 50 in order to increase capacity by 60 liters and give a little more depth. Truth is that I do not want a huge tank to make my life easier with water changes and general maintenance but if that is better and closer to the appropriate size then why not .. To be honest though , nothing is appropriate for a fish that lives in such depths in its natural environment:)
@donknotts2880
@donknotts2880 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with dottybacks. Although, i have 1 that has been very nice to the other fish
@atmoz_
@atmoz_ 7 ай бұрын
I have a red sea 750 and have a blue tang (yellow belly) got him as a baby tiny fish. He is growing super fast, not sure what aggression but he is the softy of the tank and by now outgrown his then much bigger purple tang. He and my Naso tang (so much personality) are the biggest softies in my tank. I needed to get ride of my yellow fox face, he was an absolute terrorist. Got now a smaller Fuji Fox Face but he is also dominant but nothing like the much smaller dwarf angelfish (not eating corals) just a bully to all new fish.
@Fishslayer04
@Fishslayer04 3 жыл бұрын
sailfin tang is a great one, not too expensive and is a good algae fish
@ataphelicopter5734
@ataphelicopter5734 3 жыл бұрын
Actually if you want a schooling fish, I recommend Guppies, they’re very small but stick together and breed really easily
@catpowers7339
@catpowers7339 3 жыл бұрын
I have a flamehawk and chromis on my list. I wonder if just keeping a chromis or two would be okay.
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 3 жыл бұрын
If you really have to, I'd go for one. But they're a fish that are much better in theory than reality!
@catpowers7339
@catpowers7339 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReefDork but the color... hmm.
@ImitationKrab99
@ImitationKrab99 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Can someone tell me what that device that one spot foxface is eating off of @ 5:16 ??
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 2 жыл бұрын
It's the wet side of a Tunze Care algae magnet
@kylemendoza8860
@kylemendoza8860 2 жыл бұрын
How was number 2 an alternate? I still absolute beautiful fish and then suggested alternative was bland. Definitely sold on the tang though.
@ronbeatty516
@ronbeatty516 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you general statement about dottybacks being little terrorists. However, the Orchid Dottyback is an exception of the family. I have had several over the years that have fit well into community reefs.
@hendrix38659
@hendrix38659 4 жыл бұрын
Your right, if you go with captive bread they are every more docile.
@whokilledmercy1497
@whokilledmercy1497 4 жыл бұрын
I would be careful with Halichoeres wrasses, I had multiple specimens and everyone of them ate my cleaner shrimps
@zachdemitro7875
@zachdemitro7875 Жыл бұрын
what kind of fish is that at the end with the yellow belly and black and white striping?
@oo7Grexx
@oo7Grexx 4 жыл бұрын
I keep a Demsel, clown, fire fish and green chromis and they all get along. I added the demsel last so it won’t be territorial and it works.
@keithstie
@keithstie 4 жыл бұрын
When your talking about small tanks, like for your angel alternatives, how would you categorize a 140 gal? Spacifialy a Red Sea Peninsula 650.
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
Big tank that - not a lot of fish you can't keep in a 5 footer.
@KerpooHater
@KerpooHater 3 жыл бұрын
blue green chromis are great as pairs from what i've seen and are lovely in lagoony looking scapes and i'm an absolute sucker for damsels in general (other than -glyphiodon damsels, those are utter garbage)
@sdavey10
@sdavey10 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful, thanks Alex
@thecoolestreefdude
@thecoolestreefdude 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Reef Dork, I love your videos! I have one question though, how is the compatibility between your wrasses and your flame hawk? I have heard that the flame hawk can be aggressive towards wrasses. I have a 75 gallon tank and I am looking into getting a melenarus wrasse and a flame hawkfish, but I was just wondering your thoughts. Thanks!
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fine - i've never heard of aggression towards wrasses from hawks. Gobies yeah, but wrasses should be fine...
@cordyceps7531
@cordyceps7531 3 жыл бұрын
I've had good luck with both the flame angel and blue tang. Agreed on damsel fish though, bullied the hell out of my royal gramma to the point it that it hid under the filter unless it was feeding time.
@arsenioseslpodcast3143
@arsenioseslpodcast3143 2 жыл бұрын
yup. Damsels are shit
@farukyonder7318
@farukyonder7318 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful video, thank you very much
@SanMartan
@SanMartan 3 жыл бұрын
I know 3 people who's got a clown trigger in a community tank...as long as the landscape is well glued and you don't mind replacing the odd crab and shrimp they leave corals alone...and the key is getting a very small clown trigger
@paulcohen2394
@paulcohen2394 Жыл бұрын
Great video! You are very funny! 😂
@kevinclasher3160
@kevinclasher3160 4 жыл бұрын
I have a dotty back orchid and there not aggressive to other tank mates at all and reef friendly. They love playing in the rocks and always curious of everything.
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I should have said it's not all dottys - the orchid is fine 🙂
@gunschl1715
@gunschl1715 4 жыл бұрын
My orchid dottyback is a model citizen. He does stick up for himself, but totally ignores all the gentle fish.
@briansreef7255
@briansreef7255 4 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video. Great perspective. Do you know if you can mix a Bellus angel with a coral beauty? I have seen it done in other tanks. But I have not found any specific information on their compatibilities.
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
I've never done it but yes, I'd have thought so - totally different genus.
@willfriar8054
@willfriar8054 2 жыл бұрын
Greenback sardines caught with the cast net. Throwback the big ones and keep the ones that are about the size of your thumb nail. I've had five of them in my tank they still School and they turned silver in reaction to the mirror effect in the tank. They like regular dry flake tropical fish food rather than Marine dry fish food. There are now over 4 in Long getting up to the size of being grouper bait LOL don't touch my little fishies. Sardines work pretty good in the tank and they're not aggressive
@OphidiaSnake
@OphidiaSnake 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Reef Dork, I love your channel! I'm living vicariously through it at the moment since I don't have a marine aquarium (two tropical aquaria, 90l high tech planted oligotrophic, 18l mansion for a very spoilt Betta). I am thinking of creating an invert-only nano tank. The ecosystems behind coral tanks fascinate me, and fish don't do well in nano tanks anyway. Have you tried anything like this?
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
I've thought a lot about setting up an invert dominated tank recently actually. I feel like at least one fish would be a good thing - some form of bioload is better for the ecosystem for me. But there are some fascinating critters - pom pom crabs, anemone crabs and shrimp, pistol shrimp, venus shrimp, sexy shrimp, rock flower anemones, conches etc etc. It's a great idea - go for it!
@OphidiaSnake
@OphidiaSnake 4 жыл бұрын
@@ReefDork Thanks for your reply. I had thought of maybe one yellow goby if absolutely neccessary, but I'm glad to see you don't think it's totally crazy. Give me a year to get really knowledge'd up and I'll give it a go!
@cale0312
@cale0312 4 жыл бұрын
Great Vid, thanks a lot :-) Greetings from Germany
@russellguyver7746
@russellguyver7746 3 жыл бұрын
Love the flame angel and were affordable last year but my lfs has 2 each at £230 ! I'll have to wait on those lol
@arsenioseslpodcast3143
@arsenioseslpodcast3143 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to live in Thailand. Green Chromis are just $3 and Tangs could be anywhere from $11 to $40 for the massive ones
@franciscoa7965
@franciscoa7965 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Naoko Fairy Wrasse he was a complete bully and aggressive to all but a yellow tang, he bullied my leopard wrasse, my purple firefish, my clownfish, a cleaner wrasse, anthias, and everytime he would peck at them he would flash those black fins so i would say that is a defensive or aggressive behavior, he jumped out of my tank and took him to my local fish store for credit.
@novemharrison4524
@novemharrison4524 4 жыл бұрын
Pyramid butterfly is easy to keep and reef safe no caution both the yellow and black pyramid butterfly fish
@artificialecosystems5874
@artificialecosystems5874 4 жыл бұрын
What’s your thoughts on a raccoon butterfly? Yay or nay in a reef? Are they hard to keep?
@ReefDork
@ReefDork 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not - definite coral munchers I'm afraid. Great for aips though!
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