References To Fallout 1 And Fallout 2 In Fallout 4

Collection Of References To Classic Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 In Fallout 4
0:00 The Hub
0:36 Shady Sands
0:45 Hall of Congress
0:56 Aradesh
1:11 Hub Interior
1:21 San Francisco
1:49 The Shi
2:13 The Hubologists
3:52 Wattz Electronics
4:10 West Coast Brotherhood
4:30 Los Angeles
4:46 Super Mutants
5:14 The Vault Dweller
5:40 The Enclave
6:22 Mysterious Stranger
6:35 Tales of a Junktown Jerky Vendor
6:58 Albert Cole
7:20 Fallout 1 Intro
7:34 Vault Door

[@AsymmetricalCrimes]

No one calls the Sole Survivor the Sole Survivor because hardly anyone knows what happened in Vault 111. So they just call you the Vault Dweller since they know your from a Vault

[@Steel-101]

Yeah I keep forgetting that only a few people really know what happened down there. Which is understandable because the sole survivor would hate to relive that traumatic moment every time.

[@hermos3602]

You do realize that you can take that interview with Piper and mentioned what happened in the Vault. I don't remember if you say that you're the only survivor, but you can say that you were frozen for over 200 years.

[@GoblinFromOblivion]

Just like how they call the Lone Wanderer the Vault Dweller in-game, when he’s called the Lone Wanderer in the narrations.

[@SonTaicario]

​@@GoblinFromOblivionThree dog calls you the lone wanderer while on the radio

[@highway_roadkill]

@@SonTaicario Three Dog does call you the Lone Wanderer sometimes, but he also calls you 'the Vault Dweller' and 'the kid from Vault 101'

[@UmbrellaluvsU]

It’s crazy to think Kellogg was around during the time of the chosen one, even being older then the chosen one

[@lonely_guacamole]

i was just thinking that, and i though "Maybe he was working for the Shi by the time of Fallout 2" but no, he would already be 62 by 2241, which kinda contradicts how he looks in-game

[@Whiterun__Guard]

​@@lonely_guacamole Shaun was kidnapped in 2227, so Kellogg would have already been with the institute before the events of Fallout 2.

[@lonely_guacamole]

@@Whiterun__Guard yeah i figured that out already

[@silverhand8744]

He's also highly modified with institute tech, he probably has a lot of tech keeping him going

[@nononoohfuck]

Considering the institute having the technology it doesn't really seem out of reason at all​@@lonely_guacamole

[@mattbaggett6477]

Travis saying an old friend told him to always fight the good fight could be a reference to 3 dog from fallout 3 who is a radio host like Travis.

[@RaizerONG]

I've replayed FO4 so many and I've never seen the golden gate bridge in the memory lounger once. Wow.

[@Steel-101]

No shame in that. I can understand why you would miss that because you’re probably focused on the interactive moments(you know clicking on each character to hear Kellogg’s thoughts). All of us miss some fun details in these fallout games.

[@jakesinclair7266]

Took me a few playthroughs myself to notice it.

[@hermos3602]

I saw it in my first playthrough. I like looking around when I play Fallout games.

[@TheRedMenaceProductions]

I think some of the best bits of fallout 4 is kellogg and this memory sequence.

[@aaronlaughter6471]

Its awesome, but lets be honest, after the first time, you really do want to skip it. Awesome seeing the NCR I will admit.

[@TheRedMenaceProductions]

@@aaronlaughter6471 When I replay games, I usually give a 1-3 year span so most of my memory goes down the toilet and it isn't too annoying replaying stuff. But around the first time, things hit the hardest. I was a younger man when F04 came out and I was screaming when I had my copy in my hands, walking back from the shopping centre because I was so excited to play it. Obviously on retrospect you can see what a turd it is, but I still like it.

[@Steel-101]

@@aaronlaughter6471 honestly I’m kind of the opposite. I’ll never understand how players can just want to skip over heavy story moments in video games on a second play through(especially when it comes to RPG’s). In every Fallout or even Mass Effect games, I always want to replay every single heavy story moment because it’s just that much fun. However I will admit the ONLY thing I would want to skip, is the DIMA puzzles. Ugh I despise that one lol 😂

[@aaronlaughter6471]

@Steel-101 you get to feeling that when you played the absolute shit out of a game. Example for me. The Mass Effect trilogy, I love them so much, yet played them so much I can't even stand to play them.

[@Steel-101]

@@aaronlaughter6471 well dude the trick is to take breaks. RPG games are very slow paced and doing a play through back to back will drive you crazy. You have to either do something else like maybe ride a bike or just play a heavy action game. Then come back to it. That’s why I haven’t done the outpost building yet in Starfield because I did it too much in F4. I’m taking a long break from that and then I’ll get back into it.

[@teamstarpug]

The vault doors look like vault doors? Damn son what an Easter egg

[@sierra1513]

Then vault doors in the newer games unlock by going inside with an arm behind them, the original and the custom ones in 4 go outwards

[@Zerospacedude]

Fallout 5 will take place on the west coast. They reference San Francisco multiple times in Fallout 4. Fallout 3 mentions the commonwealth multiple times.

[@kevinalfonso9448]

Let's hope so

[@fleetwoodcraic4235]

The show also noticeably steers clear from up north, no mentions of Arroyo or the Shi. Instead the show is going further east, while leaving north California alone.

[@johncusack2384]

I think fallout 5 will be chicago rouge brothhood to pump the show since there going hard with the BHS

[@fleetwoodcraic4235]

@@johncusack2384 tbh I’d say it’s between Bay Area, New York or Chicago

[@holmanthehorror6127]

@@johncusack2384 Why?

[@toxiccorgi2108]

Itd be interesting to see a video of the references to 3 that are in NV as theres a few mentions of the easy coast BOS and a few places where you can see weapons from 3.

[@corypowercat7277]

And the Wasteland Survival Guide.

[@mappingshaman5280]

There's also Mr houses obituary which says he studied at the institute which I'd a reference to the replicated man

[@noddy1973]

Psure it was a reference to Midwest BoS from Ceasar rather than DC BoS

[@nononoohfuck]

​@@noddy1973Im almost certain it wasn't

[@zehfox2719]

If I had a nickel for every time someone in the wasteland was secretly selling human meat to unsuspecting (though sometimes fully aware) citizens disguised as animal meat, I’d have way more than two nickels.

[@ss-yj9xj]

Guess bethesda likes history.

[@you-5-iver804]

Not rly otherwise they'd respect Fallout New Vegas

[@willieb.haardigan8984]

@@you-5-iver804how exactly do they disrespect it? I mean I feel disrespected as a fan with the product they’ve put out over the last couple years but, I don’t feel as if they’ve disrespected past games? Maybe I’m Missing something

[@noahsylvester1754]

@@willieb.haardigan8984 they disrespected the lore of previous games by retconning various established parts of the setting, progress made post-war by various organizations from fallout 1, 2, tactics and vegas are ignored to elevate east coast civilizations from bethesda's canon, there's also the infamous chems situation and the over-use of the brotherhood faction unrelated to lore, but definitely worst of all, they made obsidian work extremely hard on one of the tightest deadlines bethesda's ever given to a developer and even though in the end FNV is universally recognized as a better product than 3, 4 and 76, just because at the time it was ONE point off from an 85 metacritic score, they were denied a significant amount of their pay for the project since then, bethesda's guys have made every effort to keep the old fallout dev team away from the IP even though the majority of fans keep begging for it

[@Lazy_Sloth1138]

@@noahsylvester1754 "retconning various established parts of the setting" Such as? New Vegas and Fallout 2 have also retconned established parts of the setting. "progress made post-war by various organizations from fallout 1, 2, tactics and vegas are ignored to elevate east coast civilizations from bethesda's canon" How should anything that happens on the West Coast have any impact on what happens on the other end of the continent? You're not making any sense. And then you go on to complain about BoS being featured heavily in Bethesda's games, even though it's literally an example of a West Coast faction progressing and having impact on the East Coast. And they also mention NCR in 3 and 4 and it will be featured in the TV show, so they definitely don't ignore it. "infamous chems situation" Such as? Even Fallout 2 stated that Jet existed before Myron supposedly created it. "over-use of the brotherhood faction" You literally mentioned Tactics, a game that is centered around the Brotherhood of Steel and shows them conquering Midwest. And did you forget about Fallout: BoS? Another game that is centered around the Brotherhood? Or how about the planned Fallout: Extreme, that would've showed BoS expanding all the way to Alaska? Maybe Bethesda just keeps the trend going because BoS is one of the staples of this series? "they made obsidian work extremely hard on one of the tightest deadlines bethesda's ever given to a developer" This is pure BS that has been disproven by the actual Obsidian themselves. Bethesda didn't force the deadline on them, Obsidian agreed to it. Obsidian's problem has always been poor time management, something that they have also admitted themselves. "just because at the time it was ONE point off from an 85 metacritic score, they were denied a significant amount of their pay for the project" Again with more BS. They weren't denied anything. Getting 85 score would only earn them bonus pay, something that Obsidian didn't even ask for. Bethesda offered it themselves. They didn't meet the requirement and so they didn't get the bonus. What's the problem exactly?

[@GodDamnRider]

They like to rewrite history

[@toesniffer4954]

Bro actually makes some of the best and most comforting videos to me ever. Thank you and merry Christmas. Please make more of the videos

[@VongolaXZax]

I know right? Merry Christmas

[@AlternativeGamingChannel]

Thank you, I will! Merry Christmas

[@aldaoroman]

I miss so much the style of Fallout 1 and 2.

[@soundabyss]

Man id love another isometric fallout with the original art style, or see more of the original style worked into the new games, just something about 1 and 2 that hasnt been matched yet, with only nv coming anywhere near them (since it was pretty much fallout 3 itself)

[@ASlickNamedPimpback]

@@soundabyss yet more glazing... touch grass my brother

[@soundabyss]

@@ASlickNamedPimpback nah fo1 and 2 are great, you should give them a try

[@ASlickNamedPimpback]

@@soundabyss im not talking about 1 and 2, im talking about NV

[@soundabyss]

@@ASlickNamedPimpback ah, i mean it is the closest to the atmosphere and design of fallout 1 and 2 since it litterally takes place pretty close by where they did, fo3 and 4 just feel like theyre missing something and i dont really know what it is, hell even nv isnt quite a perfect match either honestly but its the closest and i wonder if it genuinely is just the perspective of the 3d games

[@aydenbrown9027]

I was just thinking about this and you have blessed me with this glorious upload

[@boxfigs1710]

7:04 I'd say Face 07 looks closer to Albert Cole than the default face. You'd just remove the beard and maybe change the hairstyle.

[@trashcompactorYT]

Every Bethesda Fallout protagonist is called "Vault Dweller" at some point. It's just a slur for people born in a vault. It's more of a running theme/extended lore fact than a reference. Also I think Curie saying she wants to fly to LA is a reference to the old world, not specifically post-apocalyptic LA/The Boneyard. Also the intro thing with the TV in a destroyed home happens in literally every Fallout game save for New Vegas and 76, which deviate.

[@leviathanforge]

Only Nate/Nora are called "Vault Dweller" in any Bethesda made game. Courier 6 was and remains "The Courier" The Lone Wanderer (Albert) is "The Kid from Vault 101" or "The Wanderer"

[@trashcompactorYT]

@@leviathanforge nah people in the Capital Wasteland call you Vault Dweller informally lmao. The Courier is not a Vault Dweller and FNV is not a Bethesda Game Studios game.

[@miroslavzima8856]

Unpopular opinion: I´ve played Fallout 1 and 2 recently, which I enjoyed. But then realised that Fallout 3 and 4 (and eventually 76) went different way - which is quite good, becuse I enjoyed them as well! And Merry Christmas everyone!

[@k4hn511]

not unpopular at all lmao

[@mebruh5684]

I loved 1 and 2, and I think the FPS approach is fine. However, if I was a fallout fan from the 90s I would hate Bethesda and everything they stand for.

[@miroslavzima8856]

@@mebruh5684 When Fallout 3 came out, I was looking forward...but was a bit disappointed (but I had high hopes, so my bad). I still though 1 and 2 are much better. Buuut that was somehow poink glasses of nostalgia and 3 fared a bit better (it was more approachable and finally no time limit as in 1 and 2 - but I think it was becuse of coding to prevent erratical behaviour of program). Then New Vegas was MUCH better than 3 and finally 4 is my most favourite. I had a lot of fun even with 76, which suprised me if I can be honest :D

[@hoesmad8626]

Youre right it is unpopular, because most have actual critical thinking brains paired with actual taste. Fallout 4 is and always will be a pile of shit

[@miroslavzima8856]

@@hoesmad8626 Maybe and that´s fine. But critically overthinking everything may lead to constant discomfort, bad mood and never happy whenever something isn´t according to their will.

[@youraverage2008guy]

there is a god named Quetzalcoatl and Quetzalcoatl is a deity in Aztec culture and literature. Among the Aztecs, he was related to wind, Venus, Sun, merchants, arts, crafts, knowledge, and other stuff. i think when the hubbologists are talking about the so called planet Quetzal they are referring to the planet venus. also, the first part of the name of the Aztec god is Quetzal so maybe an erie coincidence.. also the planet venus was habitable once a VERY long time ago

[@freeguy3894]

Well, Venus certainly wasn't and isnt habitable for humans, its atmosphere primarily consists of CO2, not to mention it was way thinner in the past, its theorized it had oceans that could have contained life tho.

[@gameboybros7739]

I love the fallout games so learning these me happy and some of these I didn't notice some of them, I already knew so thanks.

[@Chuked]

Despite steering the series away from its RPG Roots Fallout 4 still a great game

[@FayeFaye-]

what what what??? There was a Fallut 4 announce trailer with the ongoing TV thingy? lmao idk how i missed this Also theres a ship with giant exhaust pipes(not the BoS zeppelin)? looool Need to finish F3 asap

[@CoolWhip125698]

I also love Nick's comments whenever the mysterious stranger pops by. He's actively searching for him.

[@thecolourrose9022]

Nearly 8 minutes shared between 2 games shows you how much bethesda cared for keeping fallout 4 to its roots

[@texassherman7093]

Womp womp

[@MrMadre]

Bro it's on the other side of the country 🤣 you should be grateful they added this

[@thecolourrose9022]

im never greatful@@MrMadre

[@Tattle-by-Tale]

@@thecolourrose9022 Merry Christmas!

[@thecolourrose9022]

merry christmas? @@Tattle-by-Tale

[@Santi-vr6rm]

I wish Emil would put in the same effort in the game's writing as well

[@cheezman487]

He’s a shit writer. Even I’m better at writing a starting quest. I know that the minutemen should be able to be killed

[@Five_FingersofDeath]

Not anymore! NATE THE RAKE

[@Brett5ive]

Awesome video, thanks!

[@AlternativeGamingChannel]

Glad you liked it!

[@TRD027]

The Vault Dweller part is actually a reference to DJ Threedog from fallout 3, one of his signature lines being “keep fighting the good fight”.

[@UndeadFireX0420]

thank u! good idea for a video

[@jackham4407]

Btw the Fallout 4 male character is the soldier in power armor who was laughing in fallout 1 in canada the dev confirmed it

[@ASlickNamedPimpback]

and he backtracked on it, so its unconfirmed now

[@kultur-vultur]

The lack of established lore building in this game is a shame, its really mostly just new mechanics/engine that make it shine. The fact that Fallout 3 mentions the Railroad and has a free the synth questline shows more thought in that game storywise. At least you get Mayor MacCready as a follower. Would have been nice to know how Dr. Li got to the Commonwealth in lore too, she says she traveled on her own to find them but Zimmer was in Rivet City and could have escorted her after seeing her potential and interest seems like a major oversight on an important character.

[@bickboose9364]

Fallout 4 as a whole is just wasted potential. The game's writting, in general, is completely lackluster.

[@Johnny-zn5ld]

@@bickboose9364On top of this everything Fallout 76 has *added* to the lore of the world has honestly completely shat on the pre-established lore of the first 2 games.

[@bickboose9364]

I'm dumbfounded by this information 😯

[@ASlickNamedPimpback]

@@Johnny-zn5ld how so?

[@saschaberger3212]

Happy Holidays Mr. Fallout facts

[@andreasmartin7942]

Fallout 1 and 2 had a unique music score. This music expressed the hopelesness and the horror of nuclear holocaust in a way they never managed again. Fallout 3+4 was Disneyland by comparison.

[@leonardoserpero3593]

My brother in Christ, fallout 2 is as ridiculous if not more than fallout 3 and 4.

[@ericbaker8781]

@@leonardoserpero3593he hasn’t played 2, he’s parroting things he’s been told by an algorithm

[@ninjatoad9525]

It's interesting to think that Kellogg could be any of the guards for the Shi during Fallout 2

[@neamtz]

Wow nuka cola, bottle caps, brotherhood of steel, so many references to fallout

[@shigekisun3922]

Both of the curie ones are kinda a stretch lmao. Obviously she'd mention LA as a pre war place to go as she is pre war herself and was isolated for the 200 years until the SS recruits her and super mutants being sterile is just a fact, i'm pretty sure many other places mention it

[@VongolaXZax]

Hope you had a good Christmas weekend AGC

[@AlternativeGamingChannel]

You too! Merry Christmas!

[@panossuperhero]

Can someone please tell me whats the ambient theme he uses on the video?

[@michelbergeron3354]

I think that's one of the tracks from fallout 1 and 2

[@escapingourreality]

Bruh yall got something other than classical music during kellogs quest wtf

[@AcMrPro]

I went back to fallout 1 for the lore after playing fallout 3 and new Vegas and it was crazy to meet the legendary Aradesh only for him to tell me to fuck off because I'm *mentally challenged*

[@NiCoNiCoNiCola]

Well, not exactly "fuck off" and more like "fuck off to save my daughter"

[@bearlogg7974]

Shoutout to the 3 devs at Bethesda who actualy played FO 1 & 2

[@hermos3602]

Tell me you've never played Fallout 3 without saying you haven't played Fallout 3.

[@LogicalSkeptic]

​@@hermos3602Bugthesda bad because Creetosis and hbomberguy said so.

[@starhammer5247]

All of the writers at Bethesda like Fallout and made a lot of suggestions for the game, suggestions that were ignored by the main writer who recently tried to say that Nate was a War Criminal.

[@bearlogg7974]

@@starhammer5247 Yeah ik it's wierd. You can clearly tell his only interaction with Fallout 1 is the 420p intro reupload on youtube & he wanted to look smart

[@Salemchevy]

I think Bethesda should consider letting the people that made new Vegas come and help them make fallout 5

[@Santi-vr6rm]

Even if they allow Obsidian to make a new game, it's no longer the same team from 2010 and it would be a lackluster

[@GSP6]

just remake fallout 1 and 2 into 3d games

[@jamiemcerlain5897]

@@Santi-vr6rmThen Just hire Sawyer and Avellone dammit we don’t ask for much

[@christiancrocetti9940]

@@Santi-vr6rmno, but Tim Cain and Leonard boyarsky work there and they created the original fallout. Be nice to have both them along with sawyer and avellone on the team for the next game. Would’ve been nice if they were involved in the show which I’m sure is going to ignore a ton of lore and the story of the early fallout games too.

[@starhammer5247]

Todd is open to the idea, but the Obsidian higher ups would likely turn them down. They're the ones that denied the developers the extension that Bethesda offered to Obsidian to finish Vegas, after all.

[@jogs2217]

i was expecting your channel post a video.

[@GrievousReborn]

Wow are you Nostradamus

[@villings]

yes, it's a channel on youtube.

[@jogs2217]

I have bad english lol

[@villings]

@@jogs2217 better than americans!!

[@23masterOf_salt]

What about Fallout Tactics?

[@plushluigi7417]

Most of it isn't canon.

[@sierra1513]

They mention the brotherhood having airships in the Midwest in 4, so that part of tactics at least is canon

[@M3TALG0DS]

Yeah, I’m calling it fallout 5 is going to take place in San Francisco and I’m pretty sure they’re going to do every single type of role-play element this time.

[@WAGAKO19]

Crazy how nate was the maniacally evil guy who laughed while his partner performed an execution during the intro of Fallout 1 SOURCE: Emil Pagliarulo

[@NiCoNiCoNiCola]

I wouldn't say "maniacally evil guy" and more like "US Army Soldier"

[@Churrowhisperer]

Can we get a references to fallout 1 and 2 in fallout 3 video?

[@madcatmk213]

wait.. is the t-51 armor and the x-01 the only power armours from the original games?

[@gabriele3665]

Basically yes , the t-45 was invented in 3 Moreover the t-51 was stated to be the state of the art power armor before the enclave came with their advanced power armor, only for the t-60 to be inserted into the series but now they have sort of changed it as a refurbishment of the t-45 with the t-51 still being the better suit.

[@Runamoine]

T-51 was the only pre-war power armor in 1 and 2. Enclave power armor / advanced combat powered armor as Sgt. Dornan calls it was invented by the Enclave in the 2200's (there are some Enclave soldiers on the oil rig in T-51 armor and T-51 can be used to disguise yourself as a member of the Enclave). 4 retconned it to be X-01 experimental armor developed 15 minutes before the bombs dropped or whatever.

[@NiCoNiCoNiCola]

​@@Runamoine four didn't retcon nothing, X-01 is X-01, the Advanced Power Armour is Advanced Power Armour. The only connection they may have is APA being loosely based on X-01

[@Runamoine]

@@NiCoNiCoNiCola lol ok

[@BouncingTribbles]

Very fun video, I've always been curious about this. Over the years I've realized that the only thing that really bothers me about the differences between Bioware's Trilogy and Bathesda's Trilogy is the way they treat the raiders. The writing is better, in general, in Bioware's entries but it's the raiders that really set the tone. In Bathesda's games the raiders are wandering psychos who eat people and hang body parts on the walls. In Bioware's games they're groups of people trying to survive and make the best of a bad situation. I think that this is actually the source of a lot of peoples complaints about the writing in Bathesda's games, you just end up with less interesting interactions if none of the raider enemies are interactable. They even managed to somewhat fix it in the later half of fallout 4's life (nuka world and the brothers of atom in far harbor) and in 76 wastelanders, it's a clumsy attempt but they tried.

[@ASlickNamedPimpback]

in bethesda fallout they're junked up psychos, plain and simple

[@Valued_Member_of_the_Community]

I love you.

[@elderbrain5742]

Shady sands is also in 2

[@teletubbie-chan9061]

1:15 who tf is this guy i have never seen him before in a fallout game

[@CPT85]

I don’t doubt that Nate could be Albert’s distant cousin… 🤔

[@mr.ryceguy6854]

Dude! What if Nate the Rake discovered the existence of the NCR through Kellogg's memory logs, and then sends teams out to communicate with them! By 2296, the NCR and Commonwealth Minutemen should be aware of each other's existence, and with the help of the Rake, they will destroy the remnants of Vault Tech and secure what remains of the former Republic!

[@thechlebek901]

yeah Nate is on the prydwen shredding the NCR in the show

[@tamiloxd7168]

I did not expected Bethesda to name old Fallout lore. Not at all.

[@hermos3602]

Have you not played Fallout 3?

[@lawrey2883]

5:23 or maybe because your character came from a vault...?

[@mattc7420]

6:58 they look pretty uncanny.

[@villings]

awesome _!!_

[@AlternativeGamingChannel]

Glad you like it!

[@jackhallander6706]

Fallout 5 will definitely take place around San Francisco. I’d bet money on it.

[@Sgmash]

Greetings waste lenders its me three dog coming too you fro! The capital wasteland

[@maccaroni3694]

I hope we get stuff about the shi,cool concept chinese emergin from stranded submarine and make chinatown your home

[@corypowercat7277]

Yet it's going to be bulldozed in the TV show.

[@VegetaLF7]

And it wasn't

[@f.b.l.9813]

​@@VegetaLF7it did

[@MLPDethDealr32]

@@VegetaLF7 Three Vaults that suddenly existed, and werent mentioned in the games, were right under the nose of the NCR. yea.. it was retconned and it shouldnt be excused.

[@neonnsteel]

You have a peculiar cadence

[@stevenswapp4768]

Ya know, an old friend once told me "ya gotta fight the good fight" -Travis "lonely" Miles [F3, i know]

[@MrHathaway1337]

Just a reminder that there are going to be some clowns that are going to cry about Fallout 5 not being out yet.

[@noahsylvester1754]

let's hope it never releases

[@MrHathaway1337]

It will, but youtube channels with bitch and moan that it's not out yet. @@noahsylvester1754

[@audiovisualcringe]

Bethesda has made it very clear that Elder Scrolls 6 is most likely their top priority after the new Fallout 76 update and the Fallout 4 remaster, don’t know where you’re finding these “clowns” but the fans are surprisingly more patient than you think

[@aaronlaughter6471]

@@audiovisualcringe Not F4, F3 and Oblivion.

[@immortalkillah1187]

The radio saying Vault Dweller isnt a reference, its just what your called sometimes Thats beyond reaching to make a video longer

[@Akuma_no_masuta]

As a French, i don't know how horrible is the voice of Curie in english

[@ClericOfPholtus]

Lol We Americans love our 'unique' interpretations of foreign accents. You should hear our Scottish, Russian and German if you think Curie's bad

[@Akuma_no_masuta]

@@ClericOfPholtus yeah my english teacher told me American people loves french accent but in the Curie voice, she don't make any effort to hind the accent.

[@TRez98]

But... but i thought Bethesda hated the originals and wanted to completely erase them and hates Obsidian and hates its fans????

[@k4hn511]

5:15 "The Sole survivor being a vault dweller and being mentioned as such is a reference to Fallout 1" is on the same level like "the BoS in Fo4 is a reference to the BoS in Fallout 1" 🤓🤓

[@NoNameTaken117]

Fun Fact: The FO4 Protagonist Nate committed war crimes. You can see him commit war crimes when he shot the poor guy on the back of the head in the FO1 Intro.

[@starhammer5247]

This is false. Within three hours, the guy that made that statement walked it back and said it was his headcanon.

[@NoNameTaken117]

@@starhammer5247 Darn you Bethesda

[@f.b.l.9813]

that's just Bethesda's head writer having a mental breakdown

[@Stoppie_October]

Kinda Wish Kellogg would have became an anti-hero, but they just kill him off out of laziness.

[@Pigeonwhogotburnt]

To be fair he did kill our player characters spouse.

[@MadfellaDuke]

​@@Pigeonwhogotburnt Yeah fuck him. Dude kills your wife/husband and then kidnaps your baby.

[@Dylan90210]

I love how the referenced Fallout 1 and 2 by retconning important elements of established lore.

[@dillydraws]

Like what?

[@Fr-og]

Fallout 2 is the best fallout

[@reecerox2]

Is the voiceover AI? :/

[@jet6283]

and people still say that bethesda neglects black isle/obsidian's part of the lore

[@hermos3602]

It's funny because even Fallout 3 had multiple references to Classic Fallout. It even has references to Tactics. It just shows the people who think Bethesda ignores the original games don't pay attention themselves.

[@wagnarsanchez]

so cool they made references 2 the past games! lets completely forget all the other stuff they retconned!!!

[@jet6283]

​@sanchez right now i can only think of the creation of jet, which can be debated on because myron was a fucking smartass and he could easily had found pre war jet and reverse engineered it to make it again then proceeded to never mention it already existed

[@starhammer5247]

​@@wagnarsanchezThey didn't really retcon shit. Only retcons I can think of are so small that they're completely forgettable.

[@behindthebruins5119]

Rare case of Bethesda understanding and respecting previous lore

[@user-fz3us1fw4u]

The Creation Club paint for your weapon is base off the shi

[@user-vx6gs1ci1h]

At this point I no longer like fallout 4 because it’s just doesn’t have the zaniest or cuckoolander type of wasteland shtick

[@mattc7420]

Bethesda's world building deserves more credit!

[@zygomite]

Obsidian did a way better job with New Vegas with referencing 1 and 2 with character writing than Bethesda did with 4 😂

[@ultronthetechnologicaltyra2081]

Despite my disdain for Bethesda’s game design, their lore is really good.

[@Aurum100]

The last true games.

[@syndicalistcat3138]

Back in the days during development of Fallout 4 they did respect the older games and lore. Nowadys its a different situation...

[@Alex_FRD]

Now make a video titled "Retcons done to Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 by Fallout 4", which will only be made 10x worse in the TV show. Believe me, there's plenty.

[@Lazy_Sloth1138]

If there's "plenty" then can you list at least some of them? Let me guess: you'll mention Jet, X-01 and T-60 even though they have clear explanations?

[@GeneralS.T.A.L.K.E.R]

​@@Lazy_Sloth1138the x-01 already existed for a long time with the enclave in fallout 2 but with the t-60 but what is this sh it the good thing is that there is a mod where it repairs that inconsistency by placing the old t-51b the x-02 is a retcon and then with the design of the enclave in 2, in comparison the x-02 is uglier

[@MrMadre]

@@Lazy_Sloth1138Exactly. I can't even think of one good retcon Bethesdas made.

[@mebruh5684]

@@Lazy_Sloth1138Jet is so weird. I kinda like the idea that Myron didn’t make it though, just to get one last little “Fuck you” to him.

[@snokey1153]

T51 didn’t exist in fallout 1 and 2

[@alexishallo832]

See this is how you do call backs obsidian. Not just ripping off huge chunks from 1 And 2 and making a buggy ugly as shit game that was barely rated as a dlc for 3

[@Pelayum]

Let's not go that far

[@starhammer5247]

Careful there, you'll attract the Vegas fuckboys.

[@NiCoNiCoNiCola]

​@@Pelayum welp is he not right? NV does go a bit too far with it's callbacks I'd say. Then again, surprised Harold the Megaorganism is not their creation

[@Pelayum]

@@NiCoNiCoNiCola I personally don't think either developer is better than the other in this regard. Bethesda references the west in very light and subtle ways (Exception of Harold) because they want their focus to be on the east. Obsidian uses the previous Fallout games as building blocks for New Vegas so their references are going to be more direct

[@NiCoNiCoNiCola]

@@Pelayum yeah One thing they did weird is the BoS. Why are they suddenly Hitler?

[@Based_Stuhlinger]

Just your daily reminder Fallout 4 is garbage.

[@toxiccorgi2108]

It's pathetic how much these games live rent-free in the heads of manchildren like you.

[@hermos3602]

It's not though.

[@Based_Stuhlinger]

@@hermos3602Stay mad *puts shades on*.

[@Based_Stuhlinger]

@@hermos3602IIIIGOR FETCH ME THE BRAINNNN

[@hermos3602]

@@Based_Stuhlinger I'm not though. People that say that are usually projecting.