Refreshing an old gaming rig with a new case and GPU - LBC#56

Today we're rehousing this 3rd gen Intel rig in a new chassis. Rambly build-video ahead!
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[@spacecy]

I love these kind of videos when old pc's are given new life.

[@allawie5971]

Me 2

[@HanabiiiUwU]

@Sleeping Warrior While that idea is great, in practice it doesn't work so well. Most of these old cases have terrible airflow and even worse cable management solutions.

[@forsaken7161]

New Case, maybe some New Fans New CPU cooler and IT Looks Like its New

[@Adamant_IT]

The RAM is in dual-channel mode. Confirmed from windows CPU-Z. Also the CPU fan is in a pull configuration, so it's blowing air out the back of the case. Relax, you guys ;)

[@santiagobarrera2387]

I can't believe that in two hours you had to do this kind of comment (which is a good sign anyway)

[@brian1979atlive]

hope that helps

[@tonybarden8563]

i think you have missed the point made by myself and others no-one said it wasnt running dual channel we pointed out the black pair of slots are not the suggested and thus more able slots to use as recommended by asus the blue slots should be populated by two ram sticks first likely due to better traces/paths to the cpu IMC

[@satin227]

intro song?

[@leexgx]

Yep Asus tend to use the slots further away from the CPU unsure if this is common with other boards (but only matters if the ram is been overclocked witch I would guess this case it isn't)

[@lukeg9684]

Thoughtful pauses to take note and explanations on important nitpicks that are always overlooked everywhere else but make a worlds difference when actually doing it. Brilliant

[@peterseragnoli3729]

Greetings from Italy! I started looking at your youtube channel a few months ago! You seems very professional, i haven't find something similar in my language so i look at your videos very gladly! Bravo!!

[@MrWorld46]

I only found your channel yesterday but I can't stop watching. Keep up the good work! :)

[@phillycheesetake]

2:25 "Disenfranchised might not be the word" You were right about that! It's disenchanted lol.

[@2011jaydog]

love the vids buddy!! love to se the builds and unfortunately all the troubleshooting but that's a great part of your channel and maybe a vid will help me and hopefully someone else !! thanks for the great content!!

[@grimgar8573]

I love this rebuild.. and adamantit do the rebuilding and its awsome. The owner and the pc is happy. Also me happy watching. All of us happy. Keep up the good work sir adamantit! Love your vids!

[@TheMhannah100]

With PSU fan up, you eliminate the worry of blocking airflow to the PSU. Carpet being a big problem.

[@kodonosaki7342]

When I upgraded, I put taller feet onto the case bottom.

[@TheMhannah100]

@@kodonosaki7342 good idea

[@frommatorav1]

Two issues with psu being up is you have to be careful of wires going into fan of psu causing a clicking noise and wires not reaching behind motherboard like cpu power cables.

[@em0_tion]

Not a fan 😁 of this orientation because of previous experiences with dust, bugs, liquids, cables, coins, bolts, plastic pieces, rat piss/feces and so on getting into the fan. I prefer the extra PSU short-protection from the human virus ;P

[@MrBestvirginia]

Not a fan of psu fan up because then it competes with the GPU about incoming fresh air... When there's no carpet, you should always install your PSU fan facing down

[@rrwholloway]

I love your complete indifference to static and thermal paste application. So refreshingly British.

[@crylune]

Static in a country with 80% humidity, you’re hilarious. Also, modern components are more resilient than you give them credit for.

[@kvn864]

that sneeze was a star of the show

[@Adamant_IT]

wait what?! What time-stamp? I thought I edited out all the sneezes!

[@kvn864]

@@Adamant_IT 12:15 it's just awesome, I am glad it wasn't removed

[@Adamant_IT]

Oh no 😂 Everything from 11:35 to 12:35 was supposed to get cut, but I must've forgotten to hit delete on the section. At least it's only 1m.

[@catriona_drummond]

@@Adamant_IT It was a glorious sneeze! Happy you left it in. Gives the video more personality. Also it wasn't a gross sneeze. it passes, np.

[@metrotechguru5863]

Here, here. Let's keep in all the sneezes. I wish I had a nickel for every time I sneezed while working on a computer. In fact, I need to Hoover my floor right now.

[@delhitepawan5804]

good video... Learn a lot from it. I have done my first PC assembling in year 2005(around). I have build Intel Pentium IV in 5-6 mins...

[@tonkatoytruck]

I bought the Corsair 275R in black for a new build. I liked it so much, I bought another one in white for a second build. Probably, one of the best bang for buck cases on the market. The only con I could list is that the Corsair fans are very loud. I replaced them with Silent Wings 3 and Arctic P12s on the AIOs. I totally agree about the owners original case. Not my style. Thanks for sharing. Came out really clean but this case has lots of slots and covers on the wire pass throughs. Its the little things that you will appreciate if you are coming from a really old\budget case.

[@MrNicoe36cabrio]

Wow, awesome rebuild! Looks great too. Dutch regards, Nico.

[@d.b.8684]

Great content sir, TY and keep it up!

[@lewisstevens1]

I had one of those cases, bought it in 2010, however was only able to scrap it this year! So glad to get rid of it.

[@ceddelefou]

This video motivates me to do the same on an old PC I have laying around here! Thanks!!

[@boastyy]

Thanks man, great video as always. As a fellow pc repair guy I can confirm how good Mr Sheen is , lol. Brilliant stuff.

[@djwayz5790]

I use the Soundblaster Z in a fairly new gaming and entertainment computer Ryzen7 5800x. The reason I still use it is because it outputs true 5.1 (wish it was 7.1) signal on the optical port s/pdif out. As where most of the onboard sound cards with s/pdif out don't output surround signal only stereo signal on their optical port. Great Vids !! Cheer's !!

[@miguelgonzalez7313]

The number in metric system is referring to the diameter of the screw, if it is M3 it means the diameter is 3mm, apply the same logic for every Metric screw. Conclusion: Metric > Imperial :- )

[@miguelgarciajr4329]

guy i love the way you work you look you check and solve ! keep going guy !!!!

[@mickpurcell272]

Nice work,looks a lot better👍

[@j2tmfc]

Good vid that. I resurrected a Q6600/P5K build I havent used for 5 years. Chuck in some more ram, add an SSD and W10 and its rocking! I keep meaning to swap the case from its Cosmos S monstrosity but that will have to wait for better times.

[@Farmhand2k]

Just did similar with my i7-4790k (2015), new shinny case and cooler. Good video.

[@JessicaFEREM]

6:50 "Produces more heat than a small star" gonna steal that saying

[@planespeaking]

I got two PC's from the tip the other week. They've got some good components in with the old, so this video is up my street.

[@boastyy]

I have my psu mounted with the fan down above aluminium mesh running across the bottom of case. Case is sat on the floor on short pile carpet. When I first put it together I thought the psu would get full of dust pretty quickly with the fan pointed down but Its been great. I normally blow the dust out of the pc every couple of months with an air line" had computers since the 80's and never had a problem". A lot of dust comes out of the inside of the case but nothing comes out of the psu always spotless .Power supply has upgraded 140mm fan installed and it moves a lot of air! I installed it this way as my graphic card temps reduced by 7-10 degrees compared to having the fan on top.

[@qT_p13]

For my old pc i had a thermaltake case from this era when cases were plastic, edgy, mysterious, and gamer! It also collects crazy dust because of terrible airflow. I also had the psu "upside down" to exhaust from the case. Good times.

[@VeerMaharaj]

I think we can all squarely blame alienware for that trend.

[@b2gills]

The screws are size 6, with a thread pitch of 32 threads per inch. So they are 6-32 screws. You can get screws that are the same size but different thread pitches. For one example 10-24 and 10-32 are both relatively common.

[@JuanGonzalez-hv6vs]

Thanks I will do the x mark the spot from now on. I usually do the pea method. I will give it a try to the x method.

[@HBKCommish]

Yeah I don't know why all the mainstream builders recommend using the pea method? It straight up is the worst of them. I'm pretty new to PC building but I was able to find a video on KZbin pretty quickly when I was building my PC, that showed exactly how the thermal paste spreads and then showed the temps of the thermal tests. And the pea method was by far the worst. X pattern was the best and the 3 lines was second best. Manually spreading it is also better than the pea method.

[@KooYu]

That "cable management" on the old case hurt a little bit inside. Mighty fine work.

[@kylerichardson8559]

Just refreshed my 7 year old sons PC with a new case, a Cooler Master Q500L. I chose it for wall mounting and flexibility in fan, power supply, and front IO mounting. Air flow is restrictive but not bad for a low powered PC.

[@ebutuoytm7560]

New to the channel, love your content! Subbed.

[@bramvandenbroeck5060]

People will always have comments about how other people build pc's, i also build a pc, when they will see the inside of my retro sleeper, they will cringe and tell me this and that, but the fact is, it works, temps are good, and the airflow is nice and quiet, thats all that mathers, i do not care what others say about my build, it works for me and since it is in a very old pentium 3 case and they see windows 10 on it with a modern core i series chip and a gtx graphics card (not mentioning my specs here because they do not mather to anyone else), they are stunned, so yeah, whatever works for you is all that mathers! Great video man!

[@redl5705]

the spoolup at 12:12 got me haha

[@Ivnard_S]

just found out your channel and im loving it!

[@danielodonnell8998]

excellent video on refreshing old pc!!

[@VeerMaharaj]

For the record, i usually give you crap for something in your video, but i really enjoyed this one. Well done and great build.

[@wynard]

Nice to see that old build get a touch up.

[@marcelsimon6425]

So the GPU is Kaputt... Again a german term. Again i grin about it 😅 I really like your Channel since i hit it Graham. I came for the BRB's, got fascinated by the LFC's and now i inhale all of your content. Keep it up! Your content rocks

[@MrTommyGeek]

Hi, german here. At first I thought my brain is broken, but then I realised he really said kaputt. Is it something similar like Gesundheit or Kindergarten? I often hear these words in the english language

[@marcelsimon6425]

@@MrTommyGeek i don't have any clue 😅 bin selbst deutscher. Graham sagt auch gern Schmutz und empfindet es nicht als Fremdwort 😉 hatte das Thema schon in nem anderen Video mit ihm.

[@MrTommyGeek]

@@marcelsimon6425 Haha, ist ja cool. Schmutz ist mir auch schon aufgefallen, aber ich dachte da echt nicht an unser deutsches Wort Schmutz, eher an irgendeinen englischen Slang ^^

[@Middcore]

I had a Corsair 600T which was also made in that "USB3 is a thing people are starting to want but not yet an expected standard feature" era and it also had a long pass-thru cable designed to plug into a USB3 port on the back of your motherboard. Being a fairly inexperienced builder at the time (it was my second case ever), and being only dimly aware of what USB3 even was, it took me an embarrassingly long time to figure out what to do with that cable.

[@Hanuki]

Good video bro! :D keep up the good work.

[@Sulphur_67]

the fact that the cooler is saying “don’t worry” (probably means silent instead) while talking about the thermal paste pattern

[@GregBond00712]

I prefer the cross pattern as well. Interestingly enough I watched a video of someone applying thermal paste against an acrylic plate and out of all the methods the cross gave the fullest coverage.

[@neverletthemtameyou]

The P8Z77 is the "best" 3rd gen mobo from Asus, I belive, if you are into overclocking. I have the P8Z68-V LE. Recently I stuck an i7-3770 into it, 32GB 1600Mhz RAM running at 1333Mhz with all 4 sticks, which are no way near the QVL list... Stuck a GTX1060 3GB into it. I run Win 11 of a 240GB Kingston SATA3 drive and have a 960GB Kingston SATA3 scratch disk. Granted it has some newer parts, but in its heart this is a 2013ish rig. And it still runs AMAZING. I edit in Davinci Resolve Studio and run AAA games on 1080p mid-high settings. Considering an upgrade to a 1060 6GB because of some issues rendering 4k vids. But my point is, from this mobo you can still, in 2023, get a viable build. Which amazes me, to be honest.

[@QuentinStephens]

Nice video. I recently did much the same to an even older motherboard and case. I would suggest that the power cable to the GPU would have been better coming from the back grommet, not the bottom one. For a Brucie Bonus you could use a 90 degree ATX power adapter for the motherboard and 180 degree adapter for the GPU. (I'd add in EPS too but I've yet to find a supplier.) Assuming the customer was willing to pay, of course!

[@lockdot2]

He is right about a case difference may make it seem faster. My spare desktop is from 2007, it runs decently, but it isn't the case making that one seem slow. Its windows 10 and a 1 core 2ghz amd cpu. But anyway Great video Adam!

[@mmkenny1694]

i just did this with my desktop today put it all in a new lian li O11D dynamic case with a ton of QL120 fans and a hx850i psu since the old thermaltake had a dead 12 volt rail

[@drjhole]

I enjoy your videos sir, you give most excellent tips. May I suggest 2 tips- remove North/South bridge heatsinks and clean then apply thermal paste, remove PSU fan and clean then reoil. Keep up good work..

[@jragonwriter6316]

Can you share some tips or a good link about how to re-oil the fan?

[@adamgrant1787]

I have that same Sound Blaster Z sound card in my new MSI build it's got the best sound I have ever heard planning to upgrade it to a higher end Sound Blaster card soon

[@rekt4guud134]

i've seen a lot of people argue over sound cards with modern motherboard so i decided to test for myself and bought a sound blaster AE-5, and i must say that even with the limited features it has, the difference is night and day, what i cant tel is how much of the difference is software and how much is hardware, but still, the difference is there.

[@jonathanyoung4605]

ive done the same thing in the past, new case ...... it really does feel like a new system

[@DennisKyne]

That is a nice little power driver you are using

[@techroom6830]

really nice, if i was the owner of that system the only thing i'd add to that is some black/blue extension cables for the power supply and some blue plastidip on that soundcard....all black and blue everything

[@Martin2112]

I was recently very pleased to take one of these cases to the tip! Despite it's huge size I had to forcibly remove a drive bay to get a full length gfx card in to it :/. By 'remove' I actually mean 'attack with massive pliers to bend a corner out the way'.

[@andrewsgarage796]

I do this all the time to flip PC's good on you Andrew

[@mikescomputercorner1204]

Bryan from tech yes City here in Aust uses a water dispersant spray to clean off the components and then uses compressed air to blow it dry ..makes for a real clean mobo .. worth taking a look.. its actually a really cheap item from a auto shop locally lol

[@skashax777x]

But I love my Zalman Z11 case, esp with good airflow, it is from around 2012 what do you mean about expandability? It has 5 HDD drive trays, that is rare today, the only issues are lack of usbc and it has usb 2 rather than enough usb 3 ports

[@unimportant5122]

The "load balancing" on PSU's is rather simple. There really is no balancing at all. Inside a PSU like the Antec there is only a single 12V rail coming from the secondary of the transformer that can deliver say 80A before tripping over current protection. Then this single real rail passes trough 4 separate over current protection circuits each set to trip at 40A, creating 4 virtual 40A rails. Thus you can load any of these virtual rails up to 40A with a maximum of 80A for all 4 combined.

[@Adamant_IT]

That's the clearest explanation of it I've heard, great info. I knew it was something along those lines, but not the specifics.

[@aschris87]

I kind of feel cheated wanted to see the dust before you gave it the compressor treatment everyone loves watching a good dust blasting with Mr Compressor. I loved the way you sneezed on your sleeve then wiped the customers SSD with the same sleeve you just blasted with your nose junk no added charge for that LOL. You may want to run a virus check on the SSD drive. With a dusty motherboard I normally spray a paintbrush with isopropyl alcohol until the brush is moist not drenched then work the board with the brush then give the board half hour to completely dry gives it that factory fresh glossy finish. I have done that trick for years also on graphics card PCBs without any issues. I am loving the content tho but please keep the normal intro that's your trademark Adam don't change anything because your getting subs and watchers because your genuine. Lot of modders love them old case's like that for projects....

[@MiguAlvFeria]

I just did this to my old X79 i7 3820+ GTX 1060 6GB pc. And i had a GTX 660 Before that one xD. Upgraded to aCorsair R275 Case, added some fans, and bought a 2070 super Waitigin for Zen 3 to upgrade the rest of the pc

[@AcheForWake]

Good job! I would have left the peal for the customer, but that’s just me :-)

[@PLUMMAxX]

It was satisfying to watch though :)

[@em0_tion]

There's this one very legit logic, but also, some clients just leave foils be and never remove them! So... pros and cons. One particular product category i HATE seeing foiled from the factory is routers. Oh, when the client returned it year and half later with warranty claims, still foiled, dusty and browned up 🤦‍♂️

[@Hateroz]

The RAM was actually originally misplaced : it should've been placed in the DIMM2 x DIMM4 slots but it was placed in DIMM1 x DIMM3. A bit of an oversight here but still, really cool case swap!

[@Gassit]

Yep, it was bothering me enough that I checked the mobo manual online, RAM should be in the blue slots.

[@Hateroz]

@@Gassit I actually did the same thing but I didn't write it 'casue I thgout people would think I was crazy or some shit 😂

[@Adamant_IT]

WHen the PC came to me it was in 1&2 and single channel. I wasn't sure what the numbering was so I went 1&3. I checked CPU-Z in windows afterwards and confirmed that it's in dual-channel, so ether way it's all good.

[@Gassit]

@@Adamant_IT Ah OK as long as it was running dual channel that's the important thing.

[@craigmurray4746]

The system is dual dual channel, which is why it has 4 DIMM slots. One channel is slot 1&3, the other 2&4. If you only have 2 RAM sticks it's suggested to do 2&4 but 1&3 will work just fine.

[@Chris-hw4mq]

Great video

[@dp9550]

Excellent stuff I love this content. !! I personally would blow out the case with an air compressor even before touching this , just remember not to over spin the fans wedge something in them before hand. peace!

[@robertcooley5211]

Hahaha, thank you for addressing my OCD regarding replacing the CPU thermal paste. I say if you are going to do a rebuild with both older newer parts, do it right. Yes I am one of those...

[@Meta-Drew]

He always takes the time to completely re-do the cable management on cases that don't have windows and will never be looked in by their owners but he wants to save 30 seconds by not replacing 10 year old thermal paste. There's something very very wrong with that.

[@em0_tion]

Yeah, one of those people who take pride in their work, right? ;P I would've changed the thermal paste of the mobo chipset as well, it's the details...

[@stevesmusic1862]

Oh excellent, thats the case I have! My I7-4790 is still rocking along

[@FLV95]

Same here. Paired it with an RX580

[@thealien_ali3382]

I like u guys

[@catriona_drummond]

I went full stupid and dumped a 2080 Super on my 4790K. But you know what? it's nice! may be bottlenecked by the CPU but all the games I tried so far look gorgeous in 1440p. Might drag it on to the next build but see no reason to move to a new platform yet.

[@henryb5947]

AH the zalmon z11 plus. big value back in the day and i still have it

[@grindererrofficial3755]

7:45 "it should limp on bit longer " :D :D :D

[@ZMEK1]

Love the videos 😉

[@iMagic16]

I used to have that case. Zalman Z11. Got rid of that pretty quickly... Also, quite like Novatech, used to visit their UK stores very often

[@magnus00125]

it's nice when you can repair this old stuff

[@optimizelogicrepair2784]

Good show sir! yeah that case is sorry

[@ockibg]

Good videos, no BS and all of fancy crap!!!

[@garyhoffmann1615]

The thermal paste is right where you left it. Seriously though I would consider doing something to avoid breathing in that dust from peoples computers.

[@deminybs]

meh breathing in strange dust is good for your immune system!! and puts hair on your chest!!

[@kintag4459]

Thank you M.r

[@MrBook123456]

well made video

[@bigbillyb718]

that old case I had omg the memories

[@srjnrwyn]

2:46 dios el mejor cableado que he visto en mi vida 😂😂😂

[@ackman3981]

That cpu and motherboard look almost familiar. I just replaced my working i7-3770K with Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe from 2012. Now with a i7-12700K on a Asus Rog Strix Z690-E. I still have the old pc. Still works. But was do an upgrade after almost 9 years of daily use. Those i7's and Asus motherboards last.

[@VandelayIndustries1982]

love the fast show reference haha

[@thealien_ali3382]

I use to love that case

[@mmkenny1694]

my old case was a 275R airflow... be very careful not to let those screws strip the aluminum threads on the chassis.

[@LemmyCaution66]

12:19 Bless you!

[@dammitimmad6189]

You need a affiliate link to the furniture polish.

[@thealien_ali3382]

Dvd drive we Ditching 🤣 while the customer is like I used my dvd drive where's it gone 😅

[@RWL2012]

Graham's policy is to assume that an optical drive isn't required unless the customer states otherwise.

[@thetriggerhappypwner]

Hey, I have the same chassis! Zalman Z11+!

[@williamjordan3498]

I'm enjoying your videos. If you have time, I'd like to see a few links to the tools you use. You should consider getting a few affiliate links! Cheers

[@larryfoster423]

After seeing all the dust in this PC I want to clean my monitor now

[@wayneg296]

Next to go, that psu!

[@iowadirt99]

I thought about putting a sound card in my pc but not for sure now. I'm running with a i7 9700K and MB is msi z390 gaming edge ac. Speakers are the logitech z623 2.1 ch

[@anthonyc417]

That GPU is a nightmare. The cooler doesn't completely cover two of the memory modules.

[@finitevoid4520]

ha ha ha! :-)

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

Which one? The old one or new one?

[@anthonyc417]

@@EvilTurkeySlices No the new MSI the two modules by the PCIe slot have a strip a cm wide and across both modules on the very edge completely missing the center. This will kill modules real quick.

[@Jm4steam]

I made my case into positive pressure. With filters. Mounted some of the fans outside the case.

[@sypherd]

I have that same airflow case, in white

[@strangeland16]

Nothing wrong with that power supply I've been running exactly the same for the last 13 years still going strong

[@TempleKa]

That's a Sound Blaster Z which in my opinion puts to shame most modern onboard sound solutions as well. Have one just like that from back when I had a 4th gen Intel and it's still miles better than the onboard solution on my current Ryzen 3000/x570 platform.

[@jragonwriter6316]

I'm on that platform, too. Which board have you got?

[@TempleKa]

@@jragonwriter6316 Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE

[@privacyprivacy8206]

Corsair 400c... I LOVE it

[@michaelhofby]

Im a fan down fan and i am so pleased

[@kevinmascarenhas7447]

Any advise for a new case which will house the corsair h80i v2 + ASUS sabretooth z77 mother board + ZOTAC Geforce 980 amp edition

[@NO_obs]

>getting rid of a zalman z11 It's literally the best case of all time The front of the case can be pulled off easily btw if you get one again, so you dont have to hang it off the table