Regret buying the GR86? 4 months in

[@jameshowlett2868]

No regrets whatsoever! I love my GR86!

[@owenhilton2045]

My 2023 GR86 comes in at the end of this month. I can’t wait!

[@moldyrefrigerator]

Worried about RTV and recalls? Or not really?

[@owenhilton2045]

@@moldyrefrigerator not worried too bad. I don’t think it’s as big of an issue as people make it out to be. However, I would hope they do a recall, I think that would be the right thing to do.

[@allisongonzalez1065]

just got mine about a month ago and i havent been displeased once! 😁🙌🏻

[@allisongonzalez1065]

@@owenhilton2045 same here!

[@youtubeaccountlol4942]

I found a stick one at a dealer Thursday, bought it day of. Apparently last stick in New England at a dealer

[@kamikazi5144]

The thing is upgrades can fix most of the issues with this car (Upgraded short throw shifter, clutch spring, new steering wheel, better tires rims, exhaust etc) besides that it's perfect. RWD, LSD, Manual what else could a man want. Maybe get a supercharger too later if you want more power. The GR86 is a beast and possibly Toyota's best GR vehicle imo. I'm not big on the BMW Supra or the tiny hot hatches like Gr Yaris and Gr corolla so this is the way to go

[@Ryukomytoy]

How is it a beast when a gr corolla smokes it easily.

[@kamikazi5144]

@@Ryukomytoy Smokes it easily? It barely manages to be a second faster on the track with almost 100 extra horsepower. Not to mention it's heavier, it has understeer and even with the variable ratio dial you can never drift a GR corolla. Lastly it'll always look like your grandmas car from certain angles...the GR86 is a beauty and like I said with basic mods especially the supercharger which will bring it to 360HP it will smoke the GR Corolla on a track...

[@Ryukomytoy]

​@@kamikazi5144 Sounds like a cope. You have tospends thousands on your shitty stock car just to make it "good". Enjoy the silicone and voided warranties.

[@xMeGaD3AdMaNx]

@@Ryukomytoy what kinda car u got

[@Ryukomytoy]

@@xMeGaD3AdMaNx not a trash-r 86

[@ak740_]

The first thing I did was get an exhaust for this car. I told myself i would wait a few months but I ended up getting one in just 3 weeks. It was way too quiet

[@bmanz8117]

This car is a four banger, and for it being that, will never really get that really aggressive note as an 8. Caution on many of the aftermarket exhausts, nothing worse than driving a screaming bee, or a fart can. The exhaust note should have a rich quality sound that enhances the car, not loud obnoxious, trying to sound like an engine it is not. The top exhausts that can deliver, Borla S Catback, the AWE, touring Catback, MBRP axel back, Apexi n1.

[@jaypraxxz7375]

Exactly what I thought and did haha Catback on order right now

[@ak740_]

@@bmanz8117 i got the awe touring exhaust. Not even close to a fart can, car sounds really refined. Also, the s2000 is a 4 cylinder and it actually has a decent sound from the factory.

[@Thegamer12342]

I think that this 2.4 liter boxer sounds pretty great. Especially in like 2nd gear around 2-3k rpm’s

[@parispierre10]

@@bmanz8117 yeah great list!

[@jakethesnake1503]

my BRZ drives like a Lexus to me, Ive never had a car absorb bumps so well and on 18's. For 30+k the car is a steal in todays market

[@invertedv12powerhouse77]

really? im really excited to see that when i get mine since ive had the pleasure of driving a laguna blue bmw m240 and i was surprised for how good it absorbed bumps on 18in wheels

[@Trisma]

Glad to hear you still loving it, got mine on the way

[@rickroma]

what was the buying process like for you? I'm looking to get a 2023 model, seems like dealers are still putting markups on it

[@Trisma]

@@rickroma No mark-ups here in Australia. Paid $50,000 AUD (equilivent to $33,500 USD).

[@shahrukhbakar3248]

I was thinking of buying a GR86 but there's no way I would buy one until the RTV issue is sorted out.

[@Carlos.Rivera]

They should start using cardboard gasket or something

[@CrimsonOrguss]

@@Carlos.Rivera I wonder if anyone has considered 3D printing a gasket to replace the RTV

[@ValenGR86]

@@Carlos.Rivera that would be worse, the Cardboard will sink and let more leaks, for now is the only thing with it what only toyota/subaru could fix because a lot of people doesnt find how to fix it.

[@jonasbaine3538]

​@@CrimsonOrguss do it. you would have to verify it's integrity to last thousands of miles though.

[@tone3560]

Its an overblown problem

[@judge831]

My first gripe is all the beeping. I can't stand the beeping.

[@Just-Two-Bros]

Gettin the 2023 red gr86 premium soon!!!

[@MakeMaddenGreatAgain]

You get it? Hope ya did!

[@Just-Two-Bros]

@@MakeMaddenGreatAgain Had it since November. Havin a blast in it too, thanks!

[@elizabethromano753]

Got mine red manual in December really loving it ..

[@solo86818]

Hey man, any update with the rtv issue?

[@ValenGR86]

Every gr86 - 2022 brz has it from factory, so its better do oil changes when the manufacter paper says and always take a look in the oilpickup and if necesary clean it, nobody can do something, is something what Toyota and Subaru would fix

[@moldyrefrigerator]

How do you feel about the less compartment space compared to first-gen? Have you noticed it? I’m talking about the lack of small cubby space underneath the climate controls, cupholders/armrest that now only fits two drink, compared to first-gen that had extra space behind the cupholders, lack of compartment sleeves on the back of the front seats first-gen had, etc.

[@PhotomikesGarage]

Also a 1 cubic ft smaller trunk, yes it is noticeable .

[@jonasbaine3538]

its a real shame to have less space. me coming from s550 mustang i was hoping it would be slightly bigger in back seat to hold rear passengers better.

[@devlinbyrne7960]

This is what's gonna replace my s13 240sx. I can't wait.

[@R3ALRICO]

Had one, one of the best cars I've ever owned. Glad to see there's still some people driving them. Enjoy it while you can and enjoy the move to this one as I'm looking to get it myself as well. Blessings Nismo Bro!

[@WaveCasualGaming]

Ordered mine in BC back in mid March. Still waiting...

[@David-qw5vr]

Damn

[@GTR003121]

I love my Halo GR86 6MT, I know exactly what you mean when you say you still enjoy it every time you get in it. Even just swapping parking spots with my wife is kind of fun. The car is worth every penny.

[@kotaplumbingandheating]

Nice to see someone review these from BC, nice plate

[@asdowo111]

RTV issues and bad fuel mileage?

[@Scott-mu4xw]

The car is amazing the way it is, some people just like to bitch, it’s a 30k car! They have to cut corners to keep it at that price point. I’m fine with the exhaust, I think it does great on the highway, you want a softer ride then it won’t handle as good. Now people are concerned about the silicone on the oil pan, the car has a warranty, if it blows up Toyota will replace the engine.

[@vurshawn1358]

Not guaranteed

[@EnhancedTrashBin]

@@vurshawn1358 Not guaranteed Toyota not fixing it? Its the dealership and NOT corporate that the reason they may void warranty.

[@EnhancedTrashBin]

Its weird for people to complain about the exhaust when MOST people that gets a sports car the first mod they'd ever do is the exhaust. The silicone issue I believe is a bit over the top when you can simply just drop the pan and remove some of the silicone from the oil pick up and reapply the RTV with less amount. (WHICH dropping the pan WILL NOT void warranty according to Toyota)

[@goranyordanoff3638]

@@EnhancedTrashBin True, but you shouldn't have to continually drop the pan when you buy a new car because there were suspect assembly methods. I have a 2002 Tacoma with 320,000 and never dropped the oil pan. I'm waiting for my '23 GR86 to hit the dealership any day now and this RTV crap has really made me question this purchase.

[@EnhancedTrashBin]

@@goranyordanoff3638 Yep, I definitely agree this RTV stuff can easily be resolved if they either lessen the RTV or just not actually use RTV at all and actually have gaskets and not this crap. Honestly, you're better off just hoplding your purchase off until they resolve this or just wait for another 1-2 years just to be safe.

[@arobjavan9481]

For such a slow car, the price is ridiculously high.

[@justinadair4014]

i always accidentally open the middle cup holders with my elbow

[@Poopbagsteve]

Man they want $4k over sticker for one near me!

[@rickroma]

how bout now?

[@Jeremy-bc2sz]

bro said anyone who has watched the original cars movie will agree 😭 i see how you got into the hobby

[@Blight-fp3vt]

don't get rid of the interior sound. I love it. Its based on the in car and live engine harmonics, whilst it is reproduced and cuts out bad harmonics and strengthens good harmonics its still based on the engine - its not some completely fake sound like you might get with an electric car or a completely simulated video game - this is still rooted from the live physical behaviour of the engine.

[@jaysorenson4667]

I kept the engine speaker plugged in for the first month of ownership. Didn't mind the sound. Then I decided to unplug it. Just wanted to try hearing what the natural engine note sounded like. That speaker is never getting plugged back in!😂

[@Blight-fp3vt]

@@jaysorenson4667 it's not too quiet for you? Or is that what you are going after

[@risby1930]

As bad as Subarus sound, I would still disconnect the fake sounds. It's like fake vents (BMW Supra), just silly.

[@Blight-fp3vt]

@@risby1930 I don't know if they sound terrible, so much as they are all so quiet now.

[@danielhetorilla8177]

rock on for rail fanning in the middle of this video

[@stevensanchez330]

Do you find the fuel range annoying I heard ppl only get 250-270 on a full tank that’s pretty low and a big downer if you always have to be at the pump. How’s your experience? Thanks

[@PhotomikesGarage]

I'm currently averaging 23 miles per gallon and with a 12 gallon tank it doesn't last long.

[@vaeetq]

I thought it was a 4 cylinder?

[@btrdangerdan2010]

If I wasn't poor I'd buy one myself with a standard

[@jesschole3788]

Me too, life is hard😂

[@btrdangerdan2010]

@@jesschole3788 indeed!

[@miscetc-tm2yt]

Are there any drawbacks to using spacers?

[@iversonjcameron]

Now they sayin the motor may seize due to silcone oil sump blockage????? I got to drop the pan every time i do a oil change????WTFFFFFFFFF

[@Moneysignteve]

Damn this is my dream car and you just played one of the best scenes from cars 🤩 4:08 great video

[@allisongonzalez1065]

Where did you get your exhaust from!? 🔥

[@itaybutavia1204]

Thanks for your review and information. Do you also have RTV engine issue ?

[@cidfacetious3722]

How did you modify the exhaust so that sticks out?

[@alamos8]

You don''t have remaining range on the computer? I mean, km (or miles) estimated until fuel exhaustion

[@jerio60]

How long was your wait when you ordered it from West Coast Toyota?

[@PhotomikesGarage]

Just about a 5 month wait.

[@jerio60]

Nice, did you eventually receive a VIN before the car arrived or no vin the car just arrived after 5 months

[@PhotomikesGarage]

I didn't get a vin, it just arrived.

[@jerio60]

@@PhotomikesGarage thank you thank you

[@310chris18]

Get the hks exhaust 👌 makes that subie drone sound nice

[@ValenGR86]

A lot of people doesnt like drone, so its more of people preference

[@310chris18]

@@ValenGR86 🙄

[@ericcoombs]

Do you feel the 2.4l pulls better than the 2.0? I have a 2020 86 and prefer the interior more than the newer version. Any issues with oil starvation?

[@PhotomikesGarage]

The 2.4 pulls so much better down low.

[@CletusLeonardLee]

"They will not be making cars like this much longer" . You are so right and what a shame that is. It's also a shame that the manufacturer cannot produce enough cars to keep up with demand. For me, no electric car can match the sound of a gas engine powered car going through the gears. Subaru/Toyota, listen, keep it RWD, no turbo option, give more exterior and interior color choices, fix the dogshit sound system. Also make the flat screen display, more customizable. Subaru/Toyota corporate listen up, you are really pissing folks off by allowing your greedy dealers to sell at above MSRP.

[@jeepmor]

Nice realistic review instead of some of those motot trend types just gushing over this new platform.

[@virtuecarl]

Very informative, ty

[@Ugar333]

Install a stage 2 turbo kit replace the injectors and upgrade the fuel pump whilst doing an e85 conversion. I did that all at once on mine and god damn it's insane, you won't regret it

[@Jmarzx]

Is it reallly worth it im asking from a perspective get this over a si ? Coupe and big turbo that si . Whats better I know different drivetrains

[@Ugar333]

@@Jmarzx Well now if it were me I'd get the si. From what I'm hearing they might recalls the new 86 brz because of rtv silicone gaskets being found in the oil pan. That's happening without boost. I have the first gen 86 and it's not an issue

[@SilverScarletSpider]

The Toyota GR86 excels at being a $30K Porsche x Miata everyday affordable sports car. The Toyota GR86 falls a bit flat in MPG because it struggles to get 25-30mpg highway compared to Tedward’s manual Honda Civic Si getting 48+ mpg on the highway. The old first Gen Scion FRS/BRZ/86 got 34 mpg highway.

[@PhuPhillipTrinh]

wow that's amazing!

[@SilverScarletSpider]

@@PhuPhillipTrinh I agree. With gas at $10 a gallon usd, the well documented 48+mpg highway Honda Civic Si starts looking a little more economically responsible than the Subaru BRZ/Toyota GR86.

[@pedrorojas5498]

Thanks for the vid ma, how’d you do that exhaust move?

[@A_guan]

Still debating if I should get the GR86 or GT Supra with the 6MT. Thoughts?

[@PhotomikesGarage]

Really different cars , price points and it depends what you want the car for. The GR86 is a scalpel while the Supra is more like a bowie knife, both get the job done.

[@RobustArid379]

Its rare that a Japanese car looks conservative

[@pHixiq]

Geez man. I daily a IS200t. More power, faster but not quicker. Idk man I feel like the GR86 won’t be drastic enough of a change from my 200t to warrant me getting it. I REALLY want one tho. I’m just not sure how I’d feel long term about it. I can cut corners and such in the 200t(although it’s not as fun as the GR and is a lot heavier). I’m trying to get away from my current car as it’s really heavy and not a fun car to drive really at all. And unless I’m going 120+ it’s not beating anything in any race lol. I’ll see man I really appreciate the review. A part of me wants to get closer to that 300ho range as I’m currently at 241hp. This has like 13less but with it being lighter it may make up for it

[@jonathanvongphakdy865]

Yea which is why I’m gonna get the 2024 Type R or maybe even 25 if I can wait that long. I’m sure they’ll make it for a couple years and I wanna give them time to work out the kinks.

[@bonkers73]

Love this car. My only complaint is the interior cabin noise at highway speed. And before everyone bashes me LOL, I know this is not a luxury car, its a sports car, but the interior cabin noise almost sounds like being in my friends Miata with the top down.....:(

[@mjor6406]

Just drive the freaking car. It was meant to be driven.

[@Tracker5111]

Please keep your cars quiet... loud exhausts are stoopid unless it's providing more power and you are legit RACING it! Otherwise it's SOUND POLLUTION!

[@user-ep6wd7ip7v]

Have you re checked that pick up tube to see if if it’s a continuous problem so don’t starve the motor of oil crap Subaru motors are know to be not of good quality

[@bosneb]

Came for the car, stayed for the trainspotting 😉

[@tonychu8993]

appreciate the video, but man, it looks like you need a shelby more than a gr86 lol

[@SilverSurferr320]

I own a 2015 gt manual and I’m debating on trading it in for this what do you guys think

[@YMx1212]

Idk but I am 40% up value in the future

[@nateTrh]

If you don't plan on doing track/autocross events, I probably won't bother. Only reason I would trade the GT in would be if the manual transmission is starting to go; those things are god awful. Most people just want horsepower and torque and an 86 is the complete opposite of a Mustang in that regard. Really depends on what you want the car to do.

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Dont

[@YMx1212]

Unless you want to be bunta form initial D do it like me

[@DarthVader-1701]

Don't trade it, the first gens are overall better cars.

[@boost331]

I wish I had more good twisty roads to drive on. I have the 22 BRZ and am pretty disappointed in the performance. I cannot wait for tuning and forced induction to be available. I have owned several mustangs in a row so the BRZ has turned out to be much more of a performance downgrade than I expected.

[@Carlos.Rivera]

I would rather buy a mint camaro ss

[@boost331]

@@Carlos.Rivera I like to take slow-average cars and make them fast. Its more fun. As they say real performance cars are built.... not bought.

[@Carlos.Rivera]

@@boost331 cool story bro, buy a shell and LSX swap

[@boost331]

@@Carlos.Rivera I would but nothing GM will ever be in my garage. Fords and Japanese cars only. I am actually in the process of building a miata with a coyote 5.0. Best of both worlds.

[@moldyrefrigerator]

Different strokes for different folks. The BRZ is something I think about at work all day, and I couldn’t care less about a Mustang. I’d hate driving a car so common that I see another one at every other stoplight, and most of the time Mustangs are pretty obnoxious so regardless of the car’s performance, they’ve always been deemed irrelevant to me. I also don’t trust Ford as a brand much either.

[@stang8913]

This should be the 3rd generation and I believe the first Gen is the AE86.

[@ValenGR86]

Nope the Ae86 is a Corolla, The Gt86 is the first generation of the 86.

[@bmanz8117]

Scion was a dog, too slow. I own a 2022 GR 86, I like mine, nice handling, pretty good on the looks stock. Lowering the car improves look, as well as handling. Adding spacers can become a safety issue, they are known to break. The Alcantara will wear quickly, on the door will get wet opening doors on the rainy days leaving it open for staining. I prefer the 17 wheels, as well as the less aggressive duck bill. Toyota needs to step up the HP still. This car should be at least 275 hp, and it will thrill, compete with Porsche Cayman, Nissan Z, Mustang ecoboost. I get alot of looks and comments on mine, in the steel silver. Toyota needs to dump the Supra, it's ugly, and too expensive fior what you get, leaving sales down. Stay with GR 86 and make it the best possible on way of looks, handling, and quickness 0 to 60, with a price point that is within reason. Toyota needs to come up with a few different interior colors as well. The quality of materials in the cabin need some improvement as well. The seat belt reminder chime is so annoying, tone it down please. I also think all sports cars, muscle cars, and super cars should have a analog guage,, looks better. The exterior on the GR 86 looks really good except from the front, which falls flat. Needs to be a bit wider, needs some fog lights as well. Al in all it is a car that will please, and excite every time you get in a drive it. Enjoy

[@EnhancedTrashBin]

Well if you care about HP that much may as well wait for turbo kits for it, get an entire exhaust set up, get an aftermarket air intake. I personally find then front looks great, Not obnoxious and its very clean where the styling of the car isn't random plastic crap like with the last gen ESPECIALLY with the last gen civics. Interior colors are unnecessary for something meant for just driver experience....

[@sgtmuffinbadger6147]

Buy a z lol

[@CrimsonOrguss]

you can disable the seat belt alert.

[@williambedard8452]

Great car, just needs a better motor. Put the new 3 cylinder turbo in and I'm buying one.

[@yugi8140]

Dam scratched my rims today 😔

[@dogsterooni]

corolla GR ordered the circuit

[@coachhussayn3379]

Thank you sir for such an informative review. Still waiting to get mine. It’s funny because I’ve owned quite a few fine automobiles. Some you will still find in the deserts of an undisclosed country.

[@ZMacky]

Nice color.. too bad you’re far it’ll be nice to cruise around

[@consumer-1147]

Dude get rid of those number plates eeeewww get some slim black ones

[@signkutter9218]

Great looking car...one of he best looking cars out there...but the lack of power kills it for me. For about $5 k more...Ill wait for the Civic TR...not as sporty looking...but much more power and practical

[@booyaahJay]

5 k more?? Your really thinks you’ll be able to find one sub 50k?

[@nico3727]

Hyundai veloster n with a warranty is another option if you dont mind the brand or looks

[@flea4061]

Listing to you young guys trying to fix a turd is funny. Was the 184 lb-ft not a clue? Subaru NA motors suck. Always have.

[@dzgtnbz3680]

Awesome catch on that CN Tear 4 Gevo. I've been on a waiting list forever for the GR86. I finally got to test drive one. It was a great handling and nimble car I just think for the money I'm better off getting a used Porsche Cayman or a Cayman S.

[@dogsterooni]

love your car

[@zukashake9717]

why is the back higher than the front? wtf

[@PhotomikesGarage]

The car is parked on a slope.

[@geraldperez2768]

Sounds fine to me...

[@Skrxpt]

Barney?

[@tommygarcia8010]

“Vantastic” lol?

[@4uto_4ddict]

(Sigh) but it’s still…just…slow. Otherwise a great car.

[@VinRZ]

I found that lowering an inch and half on the twins without dialing back the rear camber. The car would pretty much just understeer everywhere on track. Personally lowering it with an inch seems like the sweet spot if we dont have Rear LCR.

[@chrisgalosson4018]

its a Subaru with Toyota badges

[@jlou606]

Only plus about this car is that it’s light and can turn a corner good that’s about it for the price u can get alot of faster cars with more potential I just don’t get the point of buying this car

[@YoitsDro]

Examples?

[@jlou606]

@@YoitsDro wym examples 40k for 240hp iOS crazy any car that price is better than a brz😂

[@bosneb]

Not sure what cars you're gonna get that are gonna handle as well with a better power to weight ratio without spending at least 10k more than this, on the new market anyway.

[@jlou606]

@@bosneb most people could careless about turning a corner at high speeds or taking there car to a race track

[@bosneb]

@@jlou606 That explains why Miatas are so popular 🙄

[@sgtmuffinbadger6147]

*me shopping for a z* good luck with that lol

[@ramz858]

Zzzzz... The same info that every other review has mentioned. Wah wah

[@olabodealamu5297]

Click bait

[@hoopofficial4371]

Man, I stuck with this video but it was total Waste of time. You already did this video. Nothing new here. 👎🏻

[@PhotomikesGarage]

I showed the things I like ( a lot) and the things I don't like ( gas gauge , no oil pressure gauge, useless hp graph, no exhaust noise and bad infotainment) which I have not mentioned before ( nobody has mentioned how bad the gas gauge is ).

[@ifael1]

I regret buying mine tbh. It's just... so slow

[@jonathanvongphakdy865]

Yea which is why I’m gonna get the 2024 Type R or maybe even 25 if I can wait that long. I’m sure they’ll make it for a couple years and I wanna give them time to work out the kinks.