ReinventingElizabeth on TikTok: a battle on who to believe

[@B0OBIES]

Notice how the ex husband didn't out right refute the domestic violence allegation but basically says "they found no evidence legally". Its giving "its not a crime unless you get caught" ....

[@Clisare]

What I find very interesting about the discourse is people acting like doxxing the mother of your children is a reasoned response to her posting a video of herself crying. Even if she doesn’t have them full time, all that does is put your own children in danger. So what if she wants attention? It’s not a crime. Anyone who would think that’s a fair response does not have their children’s best interests at heart.

[@coltonsteck9154]

Agreed!!

[@willllllll-r1f]

You are correct, her wanting attention is not a crime, however, it is a mental illness !!!!

[@Dominique129]

The name of his Tik Tok channel is disturbing on its own and all the content is dedicated to how horrible his ex-wife is. It all looks really unsettling and I hope the kids are safe. Abuse in situations like this (in my opinion) are rooted in power & control and breaking down/isolating the other person.

[@cornballmcgoo7174]

SHE IS AN EVIL ABIUSER AND LIAR

[@sjworrier0613]

This is why women are scared of having children… you marry a guy he’s kind nice etc you have kids then there’s a sudden shift in his behavior and things like this happen. If I was him and saw the cupcake video I would have sent her a birthday cake and asked how she was doing. Being exes doesn’t mean being enemies esp when there’s kids involved.

[@natk4017]

He just posted a threat on his TikTok page.

[@erv606]

Maybe just maybe there are awful women out there and not all are princesses? Ah never-mind your mindless 😂

[@ACAB.forcutie]

​@@natk4017and people "don't know who to believe" 🙄

[@_SunscreenQueen_]

Also, she didn’t name names so he didn’t have to put himself out there to be exposed. He then throws oil in the flames by trying to “expose” her THEN acts like he didn’t want the drama and was upset how big this got. BRO YOU STARTED IT

[@ACAB.forcutie]

Exactly, this is what abusers do. The scariest thing is how many people saying they don't trust either. Like this is literal textbook abuse, yet everyone is fine with it

[@Bubblegum12345]

Right and considering the fact that he made a whole ass website to bash her and harass her for three years prior to her one nameless post is telling.

[@fruitsnac9088]

She had her children at 16,it also seems like she struggles with mental health and that her ex husband is much older than her,lot of red flags and it screams he is an abuser who is trying to destroy her credibility and image despite her never naming him or mentioning "ex husband",seems he's doing this to her bc she left him

[@Nikki_81]

She may not have directly named him, and us "Joe schmoe" in the internet wouldn't know anything, but for any mutual friends/family that may be on social media, it looks horrible for him! So I can see why he would post! There is always story A, story B and the truth!

[@DannyD-lr5yg]

Do we know for sure how old he is? Some people just look older from a young age, especially men who happen to inherent genes for facial hair. And skin can seem aged by things like drinking, sun exposure, etc. For example, my ex husband stopped getting carded - bars, liquor stores, grocery stores, even for buying hard liquor - from the age of 22 lol. He had facial hair like this guy. Idk how old this guy is, but I’d buy anything from 24-36 tbh. I’d love to hear if anyone knows his actual birthdate!

[@neeren777]

@@DannyD-lr5yghe is 37 and apparently was 24 when she got pregnant at 16.... yeah

[@DannyD-lr5yg]

@@neeren777 Thank you for letting me know! I didn’t see his age anywhere so thought people were estimating lol. That age difference is gross and awful!

[@ScorpionFlower95]

Yikes

[@RandomSwiftie13]

He got her pregnant when she was 16. That alone told me everything I needed to know about what kind of a guy he was.

[@Ramsey276one]

It takes Two

[@user-yo5yr9yr2h]

@@Ramsey276one A 16 yr old is a minor

[@Ramsey276one]

@@user-yo5yr9yr2h Illegal =\= impossible Saw several pregnant highschool girls on my Grade 9-12 years, and I mean only my school. Reality is not pretty Picture Perfect

[@roxassora2706]

Pedophile?

[@roxassora2706]

A pdf file?

[@paulmaccaroni]

Honestly I'm already tired, but this is an exhausting situation. Hope the kids are okay.

[@jackdawjames7696]

Given how highly unlikely it is that multiple people would accuse the same random ass, non-celebrity man of abuse if it were false, I believe that he is a former abuser at the very least, and I am fully willing to believe his ex-wife and side with her. HOWEVER, I think they’re both trying a little too hard to prove that the other’s an awful person so I can’t say I fully trust the word of either

[@cornballmcgoo7174]

she is evil

[@artisseriechicken]

Also a lot of people who are pointing out how mentally unwell she seems are forgetting that abusers love targeting people with mental illness because they're easier to manipulate (plus also most people become unwell when they're being abused and it's not something that can be easily shaken off). Also, people tend to have a huge issue with the "perfect victim" mentality where if the victim isn't a saint then they couldn't be abused or they're at fault. This situation is extremely muddy and complicated and I wish people would just leave them alone tbh, because all this attention is going to hurt the victim regardless of who is in the wrong here.

[@cornballmcgoo7174]

@UTTP-142 women dont lose the kids in america unless they are evil

[@Nikki_81]

I find it incredibly hard to believe that he has 100% custody of their children but is confirmed to have abused multiple women! That wouldn't happen! Even in today's society, women are still looked at to be the primary parent vs the father.

[@nanananananananana00]

⁠@@Nikki_81most men don’t get custody because they don’t try, women have never been taken seriously. while saying that, i usually trust a judges judgement over my own. but the system has failed thousands and thousands of women and children time and time again. i don’t know their situation but that logic isn’t really realistic, every situation has its nuances

[@RandomSwiftie13]

He is a control freak who has dedicated accounts to defaming her character. She is not a perfect victim but that's the type of people that abusers look for. I 100% believe her.

[@MH-ys2gd]

exactley !!! also perfect victims rarley exist after years and years of abuse, she got pregnant from him when she was 16, and he was 24. he is abusive, and being treated like this - alot of people will become mentally unstable or get issues and be self destructive or go out alot or do other things to forget...most people who have been victims for so long just arent the perfect squeaky clean sunday church goers that work in a stable job since 10 years

[@natk4017]

He just posted a threat on his TikTok

[@rutgerhauser2377]

"not a perfect victim" and farming attention from faking cancer are two different things.

[@ACAB.forcutie]

​@@natk4017thank you for spreading this 👍

[@ACAB.forcutie]

​@@rutgerhauser2377 it's clear what he's doing. And you're still victim blaming? 😳

[@juonithzramos1089]

The whole "there was no evidence" defense from him is a little bit of a red flag for me. That's what abusers thrive on; it's always he said, she said, but abuse--especially psychological/emotional, is hard to "prove" and by that I mean provide tangible evidence in favor of.

[@loco7357]

Reminds me of the Diddy situation when he was saying Cassie was lying and just wanted a payday even though he settled that lawsuit IMMEDIATELY- then the video dropped and suddenly he realized how “sorry” he is!!!

[@TheKatarinaGiselle]

The scientology HQ is in Clearwater where he was trying to get her to go. She is wise to not go! I don't doubt that he is a scientologist anymore and he is clearly a crazy abusive man. He started all this from NOTHING, And my heart goes out to her! I can't imagine how lonely and scared she constantly feels and how worried she is for her daughters. I hope she is able to get him away from her and their children.

[@willllllll-r1f]

What drug are you on ???

[@TheKatarinaGiselle]

@@willllllll-r1f none.

[@willllllll-r1f]

@@TheKatarinaGiselle You said he was "trying" to get her to go to Clearwater as if she didn't go there ???

[@mplbooks]

His demand that she delete her social media = a desire for her to disappear. And he seems to want total control of his kids, too. He doesn't strike me as being on an even keel.

[@DeborahChurney]

No he seems to be absolutely horrible and seems to only care about the kids at all. His goal seems to be to hurt this young lady, and his actions so far seem to point to this. She posted a video crying because she’s is alone with her kids on her birthday. There is nothing wrong with that, we’ve all probably felt that way in our lives, and it’s even worse when you have kids, and when your emotionally broken, you can’t let your kids see it, you have to keep a smile on your face. He’s the one that decides to come attack her when she was clearly already at a pretty low point. I don’t care if she stole money, or even if she lied about cancer(which is terrible, but he’s shown no proof), or that she owes child support that she probably can’t pay, by looking at all the text it seems like her priority is the kids while all he can do is continue to degrade her and talk himself up. You can tell by his texts he lacks confidence and has low self esteem, and if your going to marry an attractive woman, you have to have both of these attributes or it’s not going to work. I’d also say she makes her money from social media, so he now wants to control her despite not being married, and take away her cash flow so she will rely on him and need him. I think he’d love for her to come crawling back just so he can continue to hurt her. He needs a swift punch to the face to knock some damn sense into him. Stop being a dick, be cordial and put the kids first instead of trying to get revenge on this young lady. I hope some attorneys reach out to her and help her get custody of these kids back. Because the shit he’s pulled would definitely help her if she took him back for joint custody or full custody. I feel terrible for the kids and I hope this whole mess gets dealt with quick for the kids sake. Everytime I see this guy talk he oozes narcissism, and the same goes for his texts.

[@erv606]

He has full custody showed the child support debt why shill and cape after the facts 😂

[@zuglymonster]

Because the kids don't matter to him. They're just a pawn for him to hurt her. She's allowed to feel sad and have a bad day. This society sends such mixed messages about mental health. "Express your feelings, don't keep them in" *make video a with absolutely zero information no one who doesn't already know her would know" ""HOW DARE SHE SEEKS ATTENTION!!!! lots of single mom and dads have done this" And you don't think those same people didn't go in the bedroom and cry sometimes? Were becoming a society that tells people to both express their feelings and emotions but then says "umm, that's using emotional manipulation if you tell them when they treat you like that it makes you feel worthless"

[@GizmoGremlinDog]

She faked cancer and stole money. You people are mad if you think its typical single mother behaviour going on. The man said theres no legal evidence or proof of him being violent, yet youre all still happily pushing that narrative 😂😂 just say you hate men and move on ​@zuglymonster

[@jessicayork9307]

I believe the woman. She had me at Scientology!! And if that man is a member of the world's best known cult.... yep! I believe her!

[@Ramsey276one]

XD

[@ErinHatesIt]

Bashing religion isn’t cool Scientology is life changing

[@jessicayork9307]

I'm not bashing religion..... I'm bashing a cult that was created to evade taxes.

[@jessicayork9307]

Delete all you want. You know it's true. Any "religion" where you have to pay-2-pray in order to advance thru the ranks isn't a religion. It's an MLM/pyramid scheme. Go get audited you suppressive person. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jessicayork9307]

@ErinHatesIt is not bashing a religion. It's freedom of speech. 1st amendment, hun. Any "religion" where you have to pay-2-pray, break your family, and then tell you there's something wrong with the rest of the world for seeing it for the tax evasion it truly is, is not a religion. It's a cult. Even the founder L Ron Hubbard said something along the lines of, "you don't make money writing sci-fi. You make money starting a religion."

[@aaaabbbbyyyy]

Me 2 minutes in - “I mean she’s just making a cake and crying on the internet, how bad can that be?” Me 2 minutes and 30 seconds in “nvm”

[@sjworrier0613]

And what about the ex’s response… thoughts on that?

[@SaintAvangeline]

I fully believe she was abused. Abusers very commonly accuse their victims of abuse. My own abuser accused me of abuse to try to keep me silent and scare me, and that psychological breakdown they subject you to only empowers them to continue to harass you and control you even after you split

[@lacey892]

And abusers often use the court system to terrorize their victims after they don't have physical access anymore.

[@willllllll-r1f]

He didn't make the website you are talking about, one of her other victims did, nice try though !!!

[@SaintAvangeline]

@@willllllll-r1f I think you responded to the wrong person. I don't know what website you're talking about.

[@GizmoGremlinDog]

SHE. FAKED. CANCER. IF THAT DOESNT TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT HER PERSONALITY THEN WHERE TF ARE YOUR BRAIN CELLS

[@JessicaArgues]

I've studied Scientology since 2008 and am convinced it rewires your brain. "Fair game" is a moral ticket to destroying others so I do believe this guy is out to ruin her life.

[@willllllll-r1f]

Her life was ruined well before she ever moved to Florida

[@ladyjaysindeore1113]

He wanted a hotel in Clearwater that’s the Scientology HQ. She was wise to not go.

[@loco7357]

It is! Good catch! He’s such a (I can’t even decide which adjective use)….. fill in the blank 🤬🤬🤬

[@roxassora2706]

Fake religion.

[@JudelovesRiver12]

If 2024 taught me anything, it’s don’t bake a cake on TikTok. 😅😅😅

[@sweaterweatherlady]

Fair point! I don't have TT, but I remember the Rainbow cake shenanigans! 😆

[@leizylromero]

He doxxed her because she got millions of views on a post?!

[@MH-ys2gd]

and then starts with her owing childsupport and all his slandering accusations. like, in that case shouldnt he be happy she would potentially make money

[@leizylromero]

@@MH-ys2gd yes! he sounds controlling. I don't think it's about the money. Intimidating her off of social media is insane 😦

[@IamjustBruh]

@@leizylromero That’s crazy you’re willing to defend a liar and criminal. And where’s that same energy if this was done to a man?

[@leizylromero]

@@IamjustBruh that's crazy. you're willing to defend an abuser and cyberstalker. Where's the same energy if this was done to a woman?

[@IamjustBruh]

@@leizylromero So both are bad. Perfect! There’s no victim!

[@LoveAllTrustFew1]

She didn't name him, she didn't attack him. She just said she was sad and he took that opportunity to victimize himself and publicly humiliate her. That tells me all I need to know about him.

[@emma7698]

Disturbing to me how this man has abuse allegations and is filming/documenting his abuse against his ex-wife and people in the comments are saying they don't know who to trust?

[@Ramsey276one]

Are the cases he said she had real? The fraud thing?

[@_SunscreenQueen_]

Her: posting a sad potentially cringe video Him: IM THAT HUSBAND. WELL SHE HAS MENTAL ISSUES NEVER SEES HER KIDS (not true)

[@RandomSwiftie13]

It's funny considering in that post she was with her kids. So she clearly does see them. Him on the other hand has accounts dedicated to defaming her.

[@MH-ys2gd]

he is a obsessed disguisting piece of shit, probably hoped he made her situation so bad so that she would need him for help and he could use her.

[@invader4life36]

@@RandomSwiftie13that not his kids, she technically has 4 2 she doesn’t see. The other 2 is from her current husband

[@roxassora2706]

​@@invader4life36They're still her kids, nonetheless.

[@willllllll-r1f]

@@roxassora2706 Quit defending poor female behavior, this is the reason the majority of women are single and will eventually die alone. If you think I'm joking, google it !!!

[@dotcom3015]

Please don’t refer to that man as her husband, he’s her ex husband. She mentioned Scientology because apparently this behavior is common with them

[@graphrodite]

the fact that this occurred in pinellas county is very telling; every part of the ex husband's behavior with trying to expose her entire identity based on one vulnerable yet vague moment screams of declaring her an sp, i grew up on clearwater beach and one of their infamous operations was literally to take primary influence/control of the downtown area of clearwater, so these types of situations are more common there than you think

[@linawithay]

her video was so harmless I don't understand how it got so bad !!!!

[@gamingandtvaccount8526]

Yeah I didn’t see anything wrong with it, like she is 1 singular parent obviously.

[@Ramsey276one]

The Last Straw You can never know WHAT will make someone snap... Or WHY At least not until the investigation is finished

[@moustik31]

Right? I'm confused as well. Why is he watching her social media at all? If my ex was baking their own cake for their birthday, I wouldnt feel it's my business to comment on the situation at all.

[@DeborahChurney]

It got so bad because the dickheads number one priority is to hurt this woman. You can see it in his videos and even more so in his texts. She’s saying please can we just get along, for the kids. She talks about her kids constantly while he doesn’t say a damn thing about them just constant digs at her about how she thinks she’s hot and why she thinks she’s to hot for him and how he’s just a fat slob(which he is, along with being a piece of shit narcissist). He said he’s had custody for several years, so I find it very odd this dude is still hung up with a woman he’s been divorced from for close to a decade. It shows what kind of guy he is. She needs to get an attorney quick, hopefully one reaches out to her pro-bono and helps her get the kids back because this dickhead is going to do his best to get them to hate her too, and will try his best to ruin their lives too.

[@betsybabf748]

I have said the same exact thing about making my own cake for the kids to sing Happy birthday to me, and I am widowed. There was nothing wrong with what she posted. He clearly stalks her every post, just looking for something to attack.

[@GinaGodfrey]

I have been stuck down the Scientology research rabbit hole for months now

[@ACAB.forcutie]

This is what abusers do, make their victims defend themselves which makes them look crazy. The scariest part is how well it's working on the comments.

[@blubunz2637]

I originally saw this unfold on Twitter and noticed so many men in the comments of one viral tweet using this situation to hate on women and PRAISED the husband for his website about her?? I don’t care to pick sides but HE was the one who aired out their private info in the first place. I believe she was abused in some way and I hope whatever the real situation is, they can leave the kids out of it and figure it out offline.

[@mightymelkor]

do i believe she is a fully innocent party? no do i believe any word coming out of HIS mouth? also no

[@Ramsey276one]

SAME

[@willllllll-r1f]

Do I believe you defend poor female behavior at all cost? YES

[@willllllll-r1f]

@@Ramsey276one SIMP

[@Ramsey276one]

@@willllllll-r1f OF A COMMENT?!

[@mightymelkor]

@@willllllll-r1f you lack reading comprehension

[@crazyratlady3115]

Honestly, the fact that his entire name on tiktok is about her, and all his tiktoks are him obsessing over her, while hers only ever mention him to defend herself and otherwise she's just living her life... he's immediately less credible. I don't know many normal people who put so much energy into an ex, to the point of cultivating a tiktok named after them. That's scientologist, jobless behaviour.

[@jeannabeckman7424]

Clicked so fast I never catch you before work 😆💜

[@eggyuoh1874]

I understand that she's not a perfect victim but it boils down to would you rather eventually regret supporting a liar or supporting an abuser. Between a liar and an abuser, i rather in the future know that i was on the side of a liar than to on the side of an abuser. I also find it very unsettling that his whole page is named after her and dedicated to "exposing" her. She also did not mention any information regarding to him initially, he inserted himself into the situation and then dox her when the kids are with her ?? If he cares so much about his kid, he should know better than to do that. I'm only team children, hope they get the support they need and away from both of the parents until they are stable

[@CannoliRose]

Both of the parents seem unwell and probably shouldn't be raising the children. I only have empathy for the little ones. I am so jaded with adults who post their life story so casually; especially those that have children involved.

[@sjworrier0613]

Meh I wouldn’t say that. People are very quick to say “so and so shouldn’t have those kids in their custody” on the internet. I will say the dad seems shady as hell though.

[@emma7698]

I mean she was just chilling then he shared all this info about her so she had to defend herself-- can be hard to understand if you haven't been in a relationship with someone like this before

[@sjworrier0613]

@@emma7698agreed. He could have said nothing. She never said one word about him. She just seemed sad that she was making her own bday cake. Divorce is hard. Being lonely can be hard for some people. He’s a douche really. It was a harmless video, maybe a bit cringe and “poor me” but I’ve seen much worse on my FYP.

[@betsybabf748]

She has had her accounts for years and never once mentioned him or any of her divorce details. Saying just it is sad when you spend your birthday making your own cake is normal. I have said the same being widowed raising children. On the other hand, this man has his TikTok named after his ex and has had web pages for years solely to defame her and try to destroy her, while blackmailing her to give up any online voice, with no regard to the effect that will have on his children. I've handled family law cases, and she need a good attorney to put an end to this and his behavior.

[@cremeuxkraft9019]

Blessed to stay single.

[@Michelleistyping]

I usually don’t take sides but I have to side with the mom on this one.

[@DeborahChurney]

So at very first I was like he got custody, so she has to be no good. As I continued to watch, I realized this dude is full of shit. After looking at her content and watching more of this video I realized this woman, regardless if any of his allegations or true or not, clearly loves her kids and has them as her no.1 priority. Then when you start reading the texts you can see how little self esteem this piece of shit dude has and how he’s still bitter as fuck that she’s not with him anymore. He doesn’t seem like he could give a shit about the kids. In the texts she constantly begs him to think about the kids and can we please try to get along, for the kids. Throughout this video, she’s constantly talking about out the kids, while he doesn’t say shit, except to consistently point out how he’s a single dad and has the kids all the time, which is clearly bullshit. When she talks about the kids on the texts he just continues to throw digs, she’s begging for them to get along and he’s saying oh why do you think your to hot for me, you think I’m just a fat slob(only time I think he actually has told the truth, cause he is a fat slob.). He said he had custody for “several” years, so that means they haven’t been a couple for a long time, and this dude is still hung up on her and being vindictive towards her. Narcissist comes to mind. His goal seems to be solely to hurt her in any way he can. I saw this a lot while I was in the military. One part of a failed marriage will get addicted to the feeling they get when they hurt the other and they go further and further until they lie and get the police involved. I hope this young lady can take this asshole back to court and get these kids back. Nothing good will come from these children remaining with this man.

[@Ms.Laterholmes5253]

OK, so on a positive note, the bangs a.k.a. fringe with that eyeliner you’re sporting is gorgeous🖤🔥👸🏻

[@loco7357]

Stunning!!! Got me inspired to go play with some makeup myself! ❤

[@willllllll-r1f]

You should see her with no make-up of a morning, a 4 at best !!!!

[@loco7357]

@@willllllll-r1f why do you feel the need to say that?

[@SmittenKitten.]

Sounds like both sides of this equation have tremendous issues. I feel sorry for the children involved. Their peers are watching this play out on social media.

[@Luna-jo6qn]

Got pregnant young and with a scientologist, there's def a possibility she might have had mental issues and faked cancer for attention to feel like people care about her. Just like with the cupcake video, she probably lacks a lot of emotional support. But I don't think anyone can deny that he's MORE in the wrong and is he's way more mentally unstable.

[@willllllll-r1f]

WRONG

[@Luna-jo6qn]

@@willllllll-r1f ew

[@jezebel324]

I’m loving this hair color on you

[@kavi212]

It’s possible that these poor kids have two crappy parents

[@cornballmcgoo7174]

the mom is evil and crazy and belongs in prison. fraud is never ok

[@nanananananananana00]

this is usually the case in all honesty

[@mcmads]

This right here. 💯

[@roxassora2706]

​@@cornballmcgoo7174And the father is better?

[@eekk6230]

​@cornballmcgoo7174 but you'll excuse abuse, right? Sicko

[@gloriousgal9958]

Parental alienation, that's probably the goal... because when the kids are older he can point to those websites to justify his own reasoning.

[@jo1681]

I don’t think she’s a perfect victim but he’s obviously dangerous

[@sjworrier0613]

Not many victims are perfect. Trust me, it doesn’t take much.

[@zoenobody8815]

I need a makeup tutorial or what products you use. ur base looks amazing 🤩

[@loco7357]

But the wings!!! 👁️😍

[@amandaterrio4823]

Although I really don’t know who is the truth teller, I’m grateful for the distraction from my troubles

[@mysticthemanakete]

Honestly, I don't think anything about this should have been online for the KIDS' sake. And if you felt the need to sadpost about it online, why publicly? And I'm not saying she's in the wrong for being the victim of his harassment if that's the case, I'm just tired of people airing out their divorce drama, their custody drama, any of it. Especially because, unless you know these people personally, it's all a bunch of 'A said, B said' (since these things aren't limited to specific genders/orientations).

[@bloodandempire]

Even in just a tshirt and jeans you slay girl ❤

[@bettaaesthetics7791]

They are both off their "rocker". I just hope those involved are all safe. Cults are no joke, whatever may actually be going on I hope people are safe.

[@oliviamarie1845]

He’s a scientologist, that explains everything.

[@jackchop1576]

Funny how people act as if both of these people can't be horrible people. One has to be the monster while the other is some virtuous hero.

[@SanjaYamashita]

They are both unwell. The kids are the real victims.

[@natk4017]

He’s trying HARD not to smile during his “call out” response. He’s taking JOY in ruining her reputation. Chris Watts did that *same thing* in his interviews.

[@gwendolenyoung4198]

ugh but if you read the comments. ShE's BaD tOo ...in what way are her sins comparable, let alone worse, than his. fuck this thread and thank you for keeping it real. you;d never, ever see someone stick up for a vicious beater woman saying well, he bounced a check and also cried on the internet, he deserves it, jail him!!! but god dammit do they stick up for male monsters at their female victim's expense though..that's alright, but the other way around, well, that'd be sociopathic. what psychos women are for being beaten and stalked and the audacity of her asking him to stop with a legal document that would not have been created had she not had complete credibility,

[@willllllll-r1f]

Her reputation was ruined in January of 2021. You're late to the party !!!!

[@keisakura9014]

He’s totally Fair Gaming her. If he has a website about her, it’s a 100% Fair Game tactic. He can say he’s not a Scientologist, but deny, gaslight, gatekeep…. I believe her.

[@helenavioleta]

100% - a hate site is a classic fair game strategy. I bet he contacted employers, friends too

[@weebsofthestoneage651]

This is a good video. Crazy he said she said nonsense drama where it just gets more ridiculous the deeper it gets. I love it.

[@elsiemon]

This man's behavior is why women are more comfortable with the bear

[@The_Catnip]

Us, normal women struggle to get a date because people like you, who say such dumb things, like women are so prefect... Women can be vile maybe even more than men.

[@Nine9Niner]

Funny how the second amendment just bluntly and immediately tells all English speaking Englishmen in elementary school that Nobody Has The Right To Live, isn't it? Haha. 😇

[@joannasandquist1599]

What's the bear?

[@joannasandquist1599]

Not trying to be mean! Just curious

[@beks3251]

@@joannasandquist1599 its a reference to a question asked to women about whether they'd rather be stuck in a forest with a man or a bear and majority of them responded "the bear"

[@friendly_space_martian]

I found it on Twitter first. My opinions are probably already muddied. The whole just makes me uncomfortable, it's reminding me of the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial.

[@dotcom3015]

Well one of them has a whole page dedicated to ex partner and jumped to expose the other person after they posted about being sad on their birthday

[@friendly_space_martian]

@dotcom3015 That's what I'm trying to say, both times, the men set out to try and make their partners lives hell, while being seen as the better person

[@dotcom3015]

@@friendly_space_martian oh, I get you. This guys obsession with his ex wife seemed more clear cut to me than the Amber vs Johnny.

[@serinadelmar6012]

The ex husband is giving Amber Turd for sure.

[@lavenderoh]

​@@friendly_space_martian😂😂😂 delusional

[@Mixdemotions.-.x]

I grew up like this parents just use their kids as weapons against the other. She needs to get stable,have a support network and needs to talk about boundaries. He also needs to do the same, co parenting has to be the priority not getting at each other

[@eekk6230]

It's really hard to be stable when someone is running a hate campaign on you and holding your children over your head as some unobtainable "prize" for behaving the way he wants her to. Get real

[@ohhayitsalice]

Your looks are absolutely rocking in this video Giulia

[@SnozBerryQueen]

It's 2024 and I'm still yet to feel the sincerity in a video of someone crying and filing it on their phone.

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

Honestly, same. Am I old? It feels very performative

[@BuchCherry]

The man is 1000% a very serious abuser. What he is doing is the very definition of gaslighting.

[@Nok112]

I’ve seen too many deranged, abusive men not to at least consider that what she’s saying may be true.

[@Metonymy1979]

They both seem sus

[@gwendolenyoung4198]

sus or not, the man is a monster, bouncing a check does not a monster make, but violence against someone not your own size and the fairer sex is monstrous. sit down sir, we are not the same.

[@PGOuma]

This is also why stay at home mothers should have a side hustle. If you try to leave your partner, they're gonna give custody to the lunatic partner just for having money instead of you. And you're gonna need funds to leave regardless. People just need to stay mindful about wanting to be a stay at home mother

[@willllllll-r1f]

She's lying, it went to court, I've seen the documents on the court website. She's been a habitual liar since age 12

[@LelynnsSquirrels]

why do i have a feeling he's a Sov-Cit??

[@_SunscreenQueen_]

ONG I THOUGHT THÉ SAME

[@ScorpionFlower95]

He's a what?

[@subparsenpai]

@@ScorpionFlower95sovereign citizen. Its a niche group of people that think they’re not a citizen of the states (for example if they live there) and dont need to follow the laws of that country. Like they dont need a driver’s license to drive their car or something bc theyre not a citizen but...? Idk they drive anyways bc they told themselves that they can. Some other people can probably explain it better ajajaja

[@mimismithson5372]

The man has a whole TikTok and website dedicated to smearing her. Got her pregnant at 16 when he is much older AND he believes in Scientology. I certainly know who I believe. The custody of the kids tho? thats the one part my head is spun on

[@gwendolenyoung4198]

my head can't cope with all the She's Just AS BAD comments. like, the fuck..how

[@mimismithson5372]

@@gwendolenyoung4198 I know honestly me and it’s all the red pill type pages online sharing it just laughing at her and enjoying their confirmation bias. We don’t know these people and this seems like an extremely messy situation. I definitely believe she’s been abused, he’s a little bit of a psycho and honestly the people I feel the most for are the KIDS.

[@OYJluv]

I dont care who or what... why is this guy so fixated on cancelling his ex? Why is there a page dedicated to destroy her reputation when shes not that big of a content creator? Thats scary as fuck.

[@Sauceyjames]

Who would make a website about her and why would he bring it up if he didnt do that? Yeah he def is a DV dude.

[@Pepper-sg5rc]

Blessed by so many different looks in this one!!! 🥰

[@CatYel.]

Thanks for a new video! (also you're such a style icon)

[@pig3292]

Shutting up is free, i don't trust either of these people 🙄

[@chloebones]

unrelated to the actual content of the video but ooo i love that black/red wig, very pretty!

[@elohi]

Ordered me a couple of shirts not too long ago and can’t wait. I hope they arrive before vacation! I can’t wait for new merch, too. Also- you look fucking hot, babes. 🖤

[@moustik31]

I dont understand, why the husband had to "respond" at all, since having to bake one's own birthday cake is more a lack of adult family members/friend issue imo. I'm confused bec. it feels like he is inserting himself in her business!

[@min_tea_]

She was 16 when she had her first child. She is 27 now and he is 37. Is their youngest 11? If so…

[@coolmumz]

The first two are not his kids

[@andrelockridge9109]

Yep the Sisterhood to the rescue!! Got to rescue a Grifter & Narcissist from Accountability. Because we all know Accountability is a woman's Kryptonite!!!

[@Apathesis0]

Scientologist who got her pregnant when she was 16. His deranged TikTok history had me doubting his story before this all broke.

[@pigglepower]

Honestly, they need to just block each other and move on. There’s kids involved. Kids that eventually see how their parents were messy af for no reason 🙄

[@selwynlvr]

the husband is obsessive and weird as hell.

[@PGOuma]

I can't even escape TT on OTHER social media platforms 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@HobieInTheBox]

Edit: so after finishing the video I'm surprised you didn't find this info or mentioned it, because she did mention it. But she was 16 when she had his kids and he was 24. That tells me all I need to know. All she did was share her feelings to some strangers and he felt the need to jump up and share all their private business, when that wasn't her incentive. It was his. He's got so many fingers pointing at him. So yes I'm inclined to believe her. On top of that she has been nothing but patient whilst responding to this situation. Tho I wouldn't blame her if she had freaked out at him. I would've too. 24:06 Just my opinion but that's not how I see it at all. He was on the offence from the beginning when she didn't even mention him originally. He claimed people kept dming her video, so he could've chosen to stay silent and not expose himself. But he shared useless info like the fraud check and private info she didn't share like their custody agreement (private documents not public). And she's tried debunking all his allegations whilst fighting fire with fire, more like a flame with a lighted match imo. So I'm still inclined to believe her after all of this. To me it's clear what's happening even if this seems like a he said she said.

[@coolmumz]

Her first two kids are not his. The two smallest girls are his. She has two baby daddy’s.

[@ThestuffthatSaralikes]

Ohhhhhh I missed you gurl. I was without internet for a week on a boat… and I’m LOST. Can’t wait to catch up.❤❤

[@beetothebop123]

There is no battle. It's very obvious who is to be believed in this situation.

[@willllllll-r1f]

Yep, at the end of the day we have to believe the court, what they say goes. Always has, always will.

[@beetothebop123]

@@willllllll-r1f just say you don't believe victims and move on bro, I'm not taking your bait.

[@willllllll-r1f]

@@beetothebop123 Please explain the bait you are talking about. By the way, how long have you known the family ????

[@dp9828]

I'm genuinely concerned for her and the kids safety honestly

[@doedarling1215]

I'm 37 and have been making my own birthday cake for like half my life. I love to cook and make either odd flavors or a really specific or vintage recipe.

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

Same

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

Same

[@gamingandtvaccount8526]

It’s definitely concerning, the last sc, are very traumatizing. He does want control over a situation he over reacted too. He is a single father, shes a single mother as they are divorced so I think its safe to say that isnt the problem. Like he is obsessed it seems as by the last texts. And she seems unwell, and they have go coparent. Thats how I see it

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

So he saw a video of her crying into her birthday cake mix, and decided to tell the entire internet their business? Yikes

[@daphnia9664]

it feels like he is a menace because he is insecure...

[@SillyLittlePookie]

Im with Elizabeth

[@willllllll-r1f]

You're with a felon!!!!

[@TheBlissMiss]

@@willllllll-r1fok and ??? I see you all over here defending him are you Andrew ??? Lmao

[@willllllll-r1f]

@@TheBlissMiss Sorry to disappoint you, I'm not Andrew, just someone with a brain that knows her and the family EXTREMELY well.

[@TheBlissMiss]

@@willllllll-r1f sure Andy

[@willllllll-r1f]

@@TheBlissMiss I'm sorry I know as much as I do. I'm sorry it doesn't fit your delusional female narrative. And I'm really sorry I know the family as well as I do. I would prefer not to !!!!

[@MagnoliaPantherWoman]

I'm hoping this indicates that mean people are finally pairing up with other mean people, and this is an example. They'll stay engaged in hurting each other instead of hurting kind people. 🤷‍♀️

[@Ramsey276one]

No one is perfect or free of sin But then they think what they post online is Truth You Must Believe... It does not end well most of the time

[@dazanii]

There are a bunch of accounts on reddit trashing her and if you ask them to say something critical of scientology, they refuse and just block you. They also all have the exact way of typing, too. It's creepy.

[@corrinadeluxe4141]

Kinda scared for her tbh. Especially if she’s a little nutty, had problems in the past. Men like him target women with some instability because they’re easier to control and manipulate.

[@LelynnsSquirrels]

i think i just found another reason for a TarotCard reading (& the results WILL b posted)

[@nikki7881]

She also has other kids from a previous relationship that she has full time. Her now ex husband is a malignant narcissist.

[@lesliemartin3]

If that guy was simply a good father who takes care of his children and lives a decent life that consists of working and raising children there would be absolutely no need to jump online and rip another person apart. That being said, she should have never aired her issues with him online. Any time someone uses an online platform to gain sympathy it says a lot about their intentions. The bottom line is the guy is obviously not a great person but but if that woman had not posted a video of herself crying telling the world, she was making her own birthday cake.I don't think any of this crap would be happening.

[@terintiaflavius3349]

He has a website he made strictly talking smack on her. Weird scientology stuff. I hope they get it together for the kids sake

[@thefangirlfromhell9627]

Girl I have been subbed to you for so long and haven’t watched your content in a few years and just started getting recommend again only to realise I’d been unsubscribed 😢 don’t worry. I totally resubbed and happy to be back in the comments and feed again ❤

[@caitiecatcreates]

I'm on her side. For so many reasons.

[@dustin628]

Its also sad that the internet does this, they just devour peoples lives as the drama of the week and then just completely forget about it. Flavor of the week kinda thing.

[@graphicsgal85]

I can't help but fixate on the texts towards the end. Why does he seem so obsessed with her being "hot" and "out of his league?" I know there's a *chance* that the texts were edited or fake, but if they were from him, that's odd... Honestly though, I'm leaning towards being on her side. Especially when I saw in the comments mentions about the age difference and getting her pregnant at 16 when he was 24! 🚩🚩👀