Evolution of Fortnite Shotguns (Chapter 1 - 3)

[@daking8710]

And now they added back the heavy shotgun, however it's had a ton of changes. It only shoots one pellet, its range is incredible and it does the most damage in the game (still no 200 pump tho). However, it is sometimes incredibly challenging to hit a shot with it and you would have to have good aim to be able to use it in most scenarios.

[@Tsukastan]

Like bruh at 6 tiles away it still does 120 damages

[@Tg2Lc]

Yeah, but I think the heavy shotguns doesn't look like a shotgun anymore with that aim. I like it but I think it should be a shotgun that can do like 180 damage in headshot but it's slow to reload ( not too slow like in the older seasons). They should have released the sniper shotgun as it's own weapon.

[@Exile_ok]

I actually quite like the new Heavy Shotgun...

[@brbonesporco2050]

Dude if u r shooting without aiming it's at least 60% rng the heavy ahotgun

[@adrienneheidecker3749]

It's basically an old combat aka sniper shotgun

[@egs_nicolas]

You forgot that in Season 1 Chapter 2 the pump and tac did the exact same base and headshot damage but the tac could shoot faster while the pump had a slightly longer range. The tac then got nerved too much at start of Season 2 so you only hit 40 when an opponent was more than 1 tile away. This then also made the charge season weird because the charge felt clunky and the tac hit really low. Then in S5 the tac got buffed again

[@extraterrestrialhorse9722]

The "buff" the Tactical got in Season 15 was 4 damage

[@246bro9]

yea at the start of chapter 2 season 1 pump was completely pointless cuz the tac was practically a double pump version of the pump (they did the same bodyshot and headshot damage)

[@extraterrestrialhorse9722]

@@246bro9 yeah. Feel like gold Pump was still usable though.

[@egs_nicolas]

@@246bro9Not only that they reduced the strong damage drop off again from futher away

[@iPeanutJelly]

got the tac was so strong when chapter 2 came out.

[@thebandsopitted]

my biggest complaint with the season is actually the shotgun reload times, these guns would be so much more usable if they werent soooo slow

[@Exile_ok]

Things you can do while reloading the Auto Shotgun: Build a castle Build to sky limit Win a match... or get killed because the shotgun takes too long to reload Get another (better) shotgun Kill the Foundation/Gunnar Get to level 200 in the Battle Pass

[@rbnmngl]

@@Exile_ok ong 😂😂

[@MyKokushiboDrawing]

Despite how broken it was, I feel like the heavy shotgun dealing 300 damage at close combat to the head should have stayed, because it would have finally earned the name heavy shotgun.

[@Mr.Spade1]

I loved the season 3 meta in general, the pump was balanced because of the nerfed double pump and the tac was an eligible option against it because of its wider reticle.

[@unknownuser4224]

Chapter 1 season 2-5 was when the game was at its best.

[@swampyfn1380]

@@unknownuser4224 no the Pump was useless and the tac OP Not balanced

[@unknownuser4224]

@@swampyfn1380 it you think the pump was useless back then you were just bad at using it, plus during those seasons was when the game was most fun.

[@swampyfn1380]

@@unknownuser4224 no you cant be bad at usiong a pump that s not how it works it seems you didnt play at that time smgs were strong aswell

[@unknownuser4224]

@@swampyfn1380 yh smgs were strong but so was the pump. I swear you're finding flaws that simply weren't there, I got plenty of pump kills back then and did absolutely fine with it, so idk what you're on about.

[@AmplifyYT]

I feel like they needa make the striker shoot as fast as the pump since it can’t do as much damage and nerf smgs than arena would be playable

[@0rion]

Yeah and maybe, just maybe - Revert AA changes! I’m tryna work around it but it is gonna kill off the casuals

[@iPeanutJelly]

the striker is ok atm but another small buff will be welcomed. its just the smg needs a nerf. the mk7 is ok now since you cant blast through builds with it anymore.

[@jacksonkoenen5806]

Also if they made it so that the striker didnt do 20 damage headshots that would be nice

[@davidjorquera4192]

@@jacksonkoenen5806 if u hit a straight on headshot it'll hit alot harder

[@ippihd2558]

Bro what

[@rockyroadmagic4152]

4:31 I would just like to say a tribute to flamm, providing so many high quality weapon breakdowns, who is unfortunately probably completely blind by now. Rip flamm

[@aether8412]

It's so sad lowkey when I used to play fortnite I would always watch his vids

[@evanarey8374]

Did he die

[@7nortex7]

I liked chapter 2 season 5. feel like its more fun without the pump Even tho people want it Back. If it is in the game everyone will Use it and i Enjoy the charge

[@fuxionxd4822]

I feel like chap 2 season 8 is better If they buff the lever slightly than its going to be balance everyone is going to use shotgun to their preference.

[@0rion]

@@fuxionxd4822 yeah maybe if they buffed headshot damage that could work

[@7nortex7]

@@fuxionxd4822 everyone Used the pump unless it was some trio strat with the charge

[@huiliu2610]

Charge is good but pump is still better in most scenarios

[@7nortex7]

@@huiliu2610 exactly Why it shouldent be in game

[@blockwearingman]

"there was no meta everyone was dog shit" is literally the most acurate description of everything until season 4

[@Trent6337]

I recently played Project Era, and oh my god do the shotguns feel so powerful compared to newer shotguns. Its insane.

[@djorimooofc8281]

Reiss can you plz make a duos fighting guide for this meta? Loadouts etc. Pretty sure would help a lot of people out! Keep up the good work, love your vids!

[@dread1x826]

Use a smg

[@0rion]

Probably not a smart idea till they nerf spray weapons

[@djorimooofc8281]

@@0rion yeah but one or two maybe peppers u know

[@icereyli3454]

watch his last vid about cented and mero, hes probably gonna upload a lot of tutorial type vids on his masterclass thingy

[@jimmy5516]

If you want a good meta loadout i would say 2 smgs if they are about blue or above rarity. 1 mk seven and then mini shield and the guzzle juice. This would be for Arena. Dont pick up a shotgun. they are absolutely terrible unless its a gold striker pump.

[@Curty_YT]

Love seeing you make content talking about old school Fortnite and chapter 1 stuff. Awesome video

[@0rion]

Fax 🔥

[@drsolidlive]

This was actually really entertaining! Well done and well told!

[@matthewnemeth3134]

They gotta bring back the 200+ pump and get read of this spray Meta.

[@lruwlmq]

The heavy shot gun was perfect for me, rarely lost games with it back in season 3

[@Sparsh_05]

Charge shotgun meta was the single most balanced shotguns have ever been in my mind. It was fun too

[@Rodrigo.Gui_R]

The charge wasn't in chapter 2 season 7, unfortunately because I really like it, but I did craft the lever from tac in that season, just because I don't like the tac at all

[@0rion]

Fair enough however i feel like that meta was either pump or tac and most didn’t bother to use the lever because it was either too slow or too weak

[@Rodrigo.Gui_R]

@@0rion you're right, the lever wasn't very used, I only did it because I really don't like the tac

[@ghostyspetdog5732]

I really enjoy the tac

[@Rodrigo.Gui_R]

@@ghostyspetdog5732 I respect that

[@sparks4384]

The Pump was by far the most balanced during Seasons 6-8, and the Tac was most balanced during Chapter 2 Season 2

[@stephencurgoat7943]

Imo blue pump doesn’t need to do 200 only purple nd gold pumps should do 200 to da head

[@V1Salvo]

@@stephencurgoat7943 none of them should imo

[@stephencurgoat7943]

@@V1Salvo why not

[@V1Salvo]

@@stephencurgoat7943 sometimes people get lucky and get an easy one pump. I don’t think any weapon should be able to one shot a full health + shield player in a Battle Royale (except a sniper).

[@stephencurgoat7943]

@@V1Salvo purple and gold weapons are made to be good, they may get lucky the pump is known to be a strong shotgun, it needs to at least be balanced. One pump can balance the game out for trash players and good players

[@w33shy26]

Pump, Tac and Charge are what I'd call the perfect shotgun meta, pump is great for box fighting, Charge is good for endgame and defensive playstyles, and the tac is great for boxfighting and zero builds

[@mysticvitriol]

4:31 I instantly knew that this graph was from flamm. Miss him, hope he is doing good.

[@NATIVE1605]

I love the glass cannon shotguns like the double barrel and the dragon’s breath. If we had a meta based around those I’d actually play this game again

[@shoebar2214]

I thought this was gonna be just clips of shotguns instead of explaining like the other ones, but I got a nice surprise, nice content.

[@judfps]

i love pump tac, but i feel like it would be pretty cool if we got a meta with some kinda weird shotguns like the double barrel and the heavy or something stupid like that

[@yasinahamad]

Imagine all the shotguns in the lootpool That will be fun Scrap that All guns Ps just for pubs Comp loot Comp shld be ar,burst,pulse, infantry, tactical, combat pump,tac,lever,charge,heavy, combat Revolver, deagle Silent smg, smg, Hunter bolt All meds Bouncers, launchpads, grapplers, Harpoon

[@loganjorcin4332]

Not grenades or shockwaves they ruin the game but otherwise it’s the variety that makes it better than everything else we’ve had

[@yasinahamad]

@@loganjorcin4332 u are right

[@keith8225]

I’m glad you mentioned Flamm, he was such an underrated stats KZbinr. Truly a shame he’s going blind and can’t make anymore videos

[@TheNoobFN]

Chapter five shotgun meta: **FRENZY**

[@blueish_01]

I like the chapter 3 season 1 meta. In chapter 3 season 2 they fixed the shotguns, so I personally loved that one. And still have a place in my heart for the heavy, striker, and auto

[@chemisys2199]

I love the lever action shotgun so much because who doesn't want an almost fully auto pump? it does amazing in no builds right now, wider spread(tightened when adsing) and it just shreds. I pair it with the mammoth pistol and it works absolute wonders, i pick it over the shark tooth any time I see it, no matter the rarity, I just got so comfortable with it in ch2 s5

[@Rschont11]

Chapter 3 shotguns need a buff asap. I’m a returning player who last played back in Ch 1 season 6 and the spray meta is so unbearable. For example, I boxed a guy in and was able to shotgun him for torso and a headshot, did about 30-60 damage per shot. This guy, just takes his purple smg, and Insta melted me. It’s unplayable.

[@superpoop7733]

the best part is where he says with complete honesty that everybody was dogshit in the beginning of fortnite because its true

[@Sunny-us5be]

spoiler :chapter 3 you can’t use shotguns because you will get sprayed

[@Hytched]

I absolutely love the flippy I crafted it into flippy each time

[@MaxBoomingHere]

The tactical shotgun was always my favorite even though everyone else prefered the pump

[@furiousfaidh6036]

i could take both ngl

[@patriksurda6854]

I loved the good old times of season 7/8 i always played with my mates was so fun... miss these golden times

[@Riley6445]

Chapter 2 Season 1-5 Pump had the most balanced stats, half of them didnt do insane base and headshot while still being able to compete against the Tactical (not the Common one tho, that didnt do much) frankly 80/85/90/95/100 x2 headshot is imo the best way to balance it

[@naza.2k065]

8:00 Season 6 had one of the weirdest ways of getting a pump. The way to go around this was to just land on that wood cabin where there you could find that rockstar girl skin and she would give you a mission to just dance and gave you 120 gold, then you would go to the mini version of flush factory and talk to the npc in the back, and she could give you either a purple or a blue pump

[@Martianig]

This channel makes Fortnite competitive interesting

[@Zedellipse]

Appreciate your hardwork amazing video earned 3 subs .

[@ntkmw8058]

You forgot to mention that the pump damage range drop off got significantly nerfed in season 5

[@000zach]

6:00 I really found Tilted Town amazing. So many people hated Season X I know but tbh I enjoyed it. Especially Tilted Town.

[@VISH_PWN]

I miss Flamm making videos like those. So sad his eye condition denies him from making content anymore.

[@thebandsopitted]

he made the best videos

[@cherrybookbag3953]

A balanced pump vs combat in season 9 would have been goated. It was so frustrating how they messed that up. I think it's best if they have two types of viable shot guns within a given meta. Pump vs Tac. Combat vs Charge. A Double Barrel vs the Lever Action. Ideally those prevalent shotguns would come in uncommon and rare, with the option to upgrade up to epic variants. For example blue pumps you could upgrade to up to an epic havoc or striker. The Tactical shotgun on the other hand could be upgraded up to an epic variant. The double barrel could be upgraded to an epic dragon breath. While the lever action could be get a havoc variant to upgraded to. Ideally you could have reserve legendary and mythic weapons to specific locations POIs that need to be plotted for. A couple gold spas/ tacs scattered amongst the top 2 spots. A well paired mythic shot gun and a couple rare versions of that shotgun at tedious POI. Having the option to upgrade to a shot gun that is your preference, but not necessarily OP over what is found in floor loot. Or being able to fight/ scheme for weapons that offer an advantage. I actually dream of that shit for this game.

[@OrangeDied]

People: The SMGs are way too overpowered and shotguns are so weak! Epic, drunk: W-what if *hic* DRUM SHOTGUN?

[@oscarsauR]

Man the double barrel shotgun was so fun to use, I miss it so much

[@mikkell7289]

mid season 9 was my favouritre meta, having the pump with the combat and the tac aswell was just the best. We wont talk about the drum shotugn....

[@lyric5922]

lets be real , whatever they add , nothing out does getting a gold spaz from a normal chest

[@tubs6212]

most accurate thumbnail i’ve ever seen

[@0rion]

😂

[@shotasuzuki5210]

Rip one pump☠️ C1S6~C3S2

[@hawkmothh4765]

Chapter 2 season 8 is probably my favourite meta, using the pump is so fun

[@Lord_Kratos69]

Fun fact in season 15 charge shotgun buffed Ch3 added mythic weapons and kits charge do 240

[@SeelieDeco]

I genuinely have fallen in love with this channel. He has the same views on chapter 2 season 6 that I do and I love it.

[@0rion]

I do love evolution videos especially from the best Scot’s analyst on the planet keep it up Reiss you’re doing brilliant 🔥

[@J-SilverH]

Just found this channel and I will say. I love it, keep up the work man, these vids are sick

[@naza.2k065]

Pump suffered in chapter 2. The amount of buffs and nerfs they did to that gun is just astonishing. Still remember when pump went from hitting 90-180 to 95-190 to 100-185 and all that crap.

[@yasinahamad]

Now gold does 186😔

[@naza.2k065]

@@yasinahamad yeah, i think it is kinda nice now

[@yasinahamad]

@@naza.2k065 more consistent and fair tbh

[@artinagpal7176]

The Blue and The Green Pump were my favourite ones

[@COR33Y]

i loved the pump/deagle combo from chapter one seasons 6 through 8 (primarily 7) this was the time i played fortnite before leaving and coming back in chapter 2 season 7, and i miss the deagle/pump combo.

[@bogerman9627]

I know I’m late but the thumbnail is so true

[@legacyfn]

4:40 i wonder what flamms doing rn and if his sight is still ditriarating

[@themostordinaryyoutuber]

This isnt about shotguns but I can swear every lobby I got into in Chapter 2 season 1, over half of them were npcs which made the game so un fun.

[@zusij]

is was so fun having all variants of pump able to 200

[@tadeas23t]

How does this only has 30k views?? I hope some streamer reacts to it and it picks up views because this video is amazingly made

[@cheetahboy0127]

The lever action shotgun was one of my favorites

[@DriverNeku]

Hot take: people use the pump (and charge but that's not relevant) because they rely on the big 100 - 105 body shot. Epic vaulting the pump in season 9 chapter 1 was an upside, you're telling me a shotgun that deals *100+ damage* is fair? No it isn't. And you know what'll happen if they nerfed the damage today? Little Timmies and streamers across the world would cry because their braindead weapon is no more and they have to use other shotguns.

[@extraterrestrialhorse9722]

You're right.

[@ItBeJC]

The mythic auto shotgun is cracked

[@gabeations]

this vid was so good, nice job

[@LND209]

The damage is so inconsistent with the pump now. It's literally either 40 damage with a headshot, or 110 with a headshot. The shotguns are practically useless, especially if you have the SMG

[@KayJayYT123]

The auto is even more inconsistent. I hit someone point blank for 18 damage

[@tmbs6199]

Evolution of fornite Shotguns * only talks about tactical,charche,and pump *

[@thehalfcanadian1778]

I’d honestly listen to this man’s voice to fall asleep

[@randmgenericname5077]

The double pump got patched in season 3 but you could still hit a combo with tac pump- tac heavy- pump heavy. It later got back during S4 and completely removed in S5

[@TeltaMan]

Best Meta: Tac from Ch2 S3, Lever, and Pump from after Ch2 S2. You can sidegrade any of them to a Charge

[@HirasSketches]

Chap 2 season 3 was great to have a break from the pump. Charge was great for mid air plays, trickshots and box fights

[@Podcastclips_454]

Best shotgun loot pool was S5 And best shotgun is Mythic primal shotgun (before nerf)

[@fun-epersonnproductions4002]

I think that the crafting and upgardeing mechanic would fit more into Zero Builds cuz you don't have to collect mats for a third of the game. During season 6 it effectivly turned every game into a Minecraft Hardcore PvP server.

[@logooniguy1426]

Imagine taking the most important and beloved weapon in your game, and just curb stomping it

[@shadow_ruisu]

Hot take: Primal was not bad, competitive just complained about it because they couldn't get thier lazy butts to work hard for a gold/purple pump ;)

[@botlet3663]

Bro you make awesome videos idk why ur not so popular?

[@Flysere]

i forgot about the combat in chapter 1 season 7 oor 8 idk but i miss the old map :D ´but have a good day

[@kingcrab_._]

The pump is fun and healthy for the game,I don't see why they remove it so much

[@kymkymo]

How is removing the structure damage benefit from the tac a balanced change when the tac was already easily inferior to the pump and charge? Structure damage was the only remaining thing that made purple and gold tacs still viable. Since the tac has a wide reticle, nerfing its headshot damage and range made it an awful weapon in almost every way. Now the auto shotgun has even worse range, much slower reload, and no structure damage. To me, perfect shotgun meta is a nerfed body shot buffed range and headshot tac, just so slightly buffed charge, and the pump with 1.75x headshot

[@extraterrestrialhorse9722]

I absolutely agree with you. The problem is that Reisshub's takes suffer from bias towards the Pump, as with almost any other content creator. The structure damage, as you said, was the only thing remaining that made purple or gold Tacticals somewhat usable, not viable, in the meta. I wish we could get a voice of reason who is unbiased to all shotguns but it is what it is I guess. The Auto can somewhat compete now that the Striker is so much weaker than the Pump.

[@0rion]

I do agree with this but if you buff the tac too much it’s as bad for the game as the smgs right now so epic are just tryna be careful with that

[@extraterrestrialhorse9722]

@@0rion anything is bad for the game if buffed too much. The Pump has been bad for the game for a long time

[@0rion]

@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 yeah fair enough

[@OneMindReezy]

@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 exactly why heavy should’ve just been brought back

[@raffaelesasso1709]

i may be a bit late but the funniest thing about all of this is that the makeshift shotgun, if you check stats, is better than the striker

[@pempa2321]

Got this in my recommendation, while playing the new update where the heavy shotgun just got back into the game, lol

[@skoop651]

double heavy was op, it wasn't a bad weapon unless you tried using it like a pump

[@naza.2k065]

11:20 the new shotgun is just a slower version of the pump, you had to wait A TON of time before actually shooting with it because of the animation it had, the auto shotgun is a tac but with a slower reloading time

[@TheOGRizzlyBear]

I honestly liked the striker pump the best, it's nice to have a powerful shotgun that can't one shot because honestly getting one shot is just annoying and I don't think it's worth it even if I can get one shots to

[@Lord_Kratos69]

True 😔 now is ch3 pump vault only green is unvaulted

[@minors290]

If only people realized how OP the lever-action shotgun was

[@ShadezWyd]

Pump is my favourite hands down the best shotgun out of them all watching this in the uk at christmas dec the 25 merry Christmas 🎄

[@kh3ddy376]

Great video, as always!

[@extraterrestrialhorse9722]

Hey Reisshub, I don't know if you will read this but I'm gonna say it anyway. 1. Please don't generalise when talking about the Pump. Everybody definetely doesn't love it, myself included. It's not that I hate the Pumps per se, but their current versions and the cult that has formed over time praying to it. A Pump Shotgun had no business doing 116 body damage. You called out the unhealthy playstyle the Tactical incentivized which I agree with but you and many others are too biased to see the issue with thr Pump Shotgun's base damagd which really threw skill out of the window. The Pump does not promote balance at all (unless the Charge is in or another shotgun is ... which then gets called overpowered and overnerfed thus making the Pump the sole unbalanced meta again :/) 2. I don't fully agree with the Heavy Shotgun being "straight cheeks". People are oblivious to the fact that it is glitched and has been so for the past 1000+ days (vaulted on January 29th, 2019). People literally should not judge it anywhere since mid-Season 7 where it got vaulted to now. It literally does not work as intended in Creative currently. I have fond memories of it because I remember it being a decent shotgun for its time (late Season 4-late Season 6). It does 192 headshot damage for gold and is definetely better than the Striker and Lever you put in a tier above. You need to consider the fact that it does 83 structure damage which allows it to wall-replace with a 7-shell magazine and a faster fire rate than thr Lever. 3. There were some mistakes in the videos. The Charge f.ex. wasn't available in CH2S7. Also, you should have mentioned the Combat's overnerf in CH2S4. You should also know that the Heavy Shotgun's model and stats got updated around the time Chapter 3 launched. It is coming back 100% this Chapter, HYPEX thinks it might even return this Season.

[@246bro9]

how are 116 damage body shots with the pump op?

[@extraterrestrialhorse9722]

@@246bro9 how is it not?

[@xxgamingodz6119]

@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 its a legendary shotgun for a reason. you cant expect to hit for anything under 100 with a legendary shotgun if its not a spam shotgun like the tac, drum, primal shotguns. all of these shotguns promote stupid playstyles while the pump rewards smart plays with good damage. also I believe the pump should be able to one pump because its a damn shotgun. shotguns are supposed to be insane close range.

[@extraterrestrialhorse9722]

@@xxgamingodz6119 I have no problem with a Pump one-pumping in a perfect headshot actually, but it dealt too much body damage (which Epic realized). 116 to the toes does not take skill and over-rewards you. You talk about smart plays and skill meanwhile this Pump can shield-crack somebody with only 9 pellets. None of that are smart plays. Back when the Pump couldn't 100 body but 200 head (early Chapter 1) and the blue Pump from Season X to some degree (100 body/200 head) this principle applied. I feel like it is hard to make someone understand the problem when we as a community are sooo used to Pumps being broken and you guys are also biased so your judgement is clouded. The Pump isn't a high risk high reward weapon anymore. It is barely a risk and high reward. We have entered an era of Fortnite where bodyshot damage is just too high and I applaud Epic for nerfing the bodyshot damage on Pumps (Strikers). But like I said, I also think headshot multipliers are too low.

[@xxgamingodz6119]

@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 ive never hit a 116 on the toes. If that's possible then there should be something done about it. But a pump shotgun should still be strong. Maybe nerf the damage to 110 but anything below that i think is too weak for a legendary spaz.

[@dunkin3464]

Whenever shotguns are accurate as they are in real life, people complain and they get nerfed. Then they complain that the game isnt realistic.

[@Saleelthegoat]

Honestly i love the shotgun meta this season i just hate the smg one

[@0rion]

Do we all 😔

[@JaxsYT-_-]

The shotgun meta with the chapter 2 pumps is boring because it's just you crank up to someone hit then or get hit to 150+ and then get sprayed, no other shotgun will really be successful or used with the pump in the game I think before they add it back they should nerf it or only add back the green and blue ones

[@Apieceofbread09]

Fun fact when the drum shotgun you could double pump for like an hour with it

[@Jorge25_8a]

7:47: Curiosamente, yo casi nunca me encontraba la escopeta de carga en esa temporada o a alguien usandola.

[@0rion]

I think a lot of top pros were starting to use it but most didn’t cause we couldn’t be bothered I did actually start to like the charge towards the end of the season

[@pourch762]

Develution at its finest

[@Cryoishim]

Honestly, I pop off with the charge the same (or even better) than with a spas. When the charge first came out, I hated it but I got the hang of it now (for me) it’s prob the best shotgun

[@Cryoishim]

I think spas and charge are both s tier

[@RaminLeGamin]

My favorite shotguns are the charge and the tac.

[@dylanstanfield5804]

this is fire

[@0rion]

🔥

[@Таланович]

I loved season 1-3 those where the best times

[@antho0o]

I hate charge, combat and tactical shotgun but i love pump and lever and the new heavy from this chapter

[@Ryanyugioh1919]

Who misses the old design of the pump