Rejected by the Germans, Embraced by the Gamers | Škoda T-25 Medium Tank

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

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[@Mr_Bunk]

No, I don’t think I will

[@donhansen5677]

The reason why it was rejected was because all existing Skoda lines were already producing the tried and true 38-T chassis for use in the Marder and SPG programs.

[@Micha-wb9oz]

the T-38?

[@qwertzy121212]

​@@Micha-wb9oz probably meant panzer 38(t)

[@czechpatriot2230]

@@qwertzy121212 LT-38*

[@donhansen5677]

@@Micha-wb9oz My bad, I should have put 38-T.

[@TrollOfReason]

Not sure if the Germans could easily afford the costs for upgraded/new tooling by 1940/41, anyway.

[@MRtucnakCZE]

Unlike T-24/T-25 series of tanks, the medium tank - ST. vz 39 was actually built and throughly tested and it was comparable of Panzer III of the time, whilst 38(t) a light tank (by its designation LT) was too comparable in terms of armor and firepower. Ultimately the vz.39 was scrapped and while work continued on prototypes like Škoda T15 and 24/25 projects, it was decided to produce 38(t) derived chassis for Hetzer TDs. Tatra did mock up a medium/heavy tank before the war, but it seems what is left are photos of the (wooden) chassis and nothing else. 'What could've been'

[@mot2296]

That tank is a very nice Tier5 german premium tank. Its hard to steer but in nearly every other aspecr on match or surpassing the Panzer4 in the same team. I can recommend it if you want a cheap and fun support tank

[@nobodyspecial115]

I perfer the tech tree T 25 with the actual 3 round clip, it only takes 8 sec to reload 3 rounds and is very fun

[@weak1ings]

@@nobodyspecial115 The tech tree version is more enjoyable but it's also tier 6, only downside of tier 5 one is the poor viewrange but high pen is a godsend.

[@stuglenn1112]

Been a few years since I played it but the premium tier 5 from what I remember it's armor was weak and gun handling pretty mediocre. Not a very good tank and I don't think it even got premium MM.

[@BlackoutGootraxian]

@@stuglenn1112 It also gets eaten by arty and derp guns, the sides can be penned by them easily and even non-penning shots do a lot of damage. Whenever i encounter one i just see it as free damage because low tier skodas rarely if ever give me any trouble.

[@pavelcerny9803]

@@nobodyspecial115 Shame the tech tree Škoda T 25 got nerfed some time ago, it was a fun tank that imo didn't derserve to be nerfed

[@THX11458]

I certainly wouldn't say the T-25 was forgotten until modern on-line games appeared. I have many old books on German & Czech armor published as far back as the 1970s that mention this vehicle design (some even with blueprints or line drawings). However, I would say that games like WOT have made it much more popular.

[@Theover4000]

The Škoda always has looked quite cool to me. Love Škoda, they’ve always found a way to make interesting vehicles regardless of what state the industry they’re made in, is in!

[@garp9269]

very nice, czech tanks are often overlooked

[@yetamm]

Thank you very much for your correct pronunciation of the Škoda name. these little things show that you put emphasis on your content.❤

[@halbailman]

I enjoy both my T25 tanks in World of Tanks Blitz. The single shot is a tier 5 premium German tank while the 3-shot magazine one is a regular tier 6 Czech tank. The guns are nice on both and both tanks can deflect shots. Solid little tanks!

[@fangzu612]

my f2p account has the t25 german and i always use it to grind credit for 5 years☠️

[@tomasdvorak7307]

1:33 the map shown illustrates situation as of ~1993, put the inter-war political map was rather different. USSR instead of Ukraine, and all the countries (with the exception of Austria) had markedly different shapes back then.

[@stealthrider1968]

It might have been scrapped because having several design flaws in the design as hidden sabotage. As for example the Hetzer was found too heavy at front, the Czech engineers response was drilling 80mm holes into frontal armor and cover with 5mm thick plates in order to make it lighter. That solution was rejected after manufacturing verification series.

[@obrnenydrevokocur9344]

1:33 I get, that it is not relevant to the topic, but those are post-1945 borders of Czechoslovakia, it also included Subcarpathian Ruthenia during the interwar years.

[@Mustache_Sam]

Line at 1:48 is repeated at 1:59. Thank you Tank Encyclopedia, such historical event indeed need a double remark. BTW, as far as I know, you are the first content creator who is sponsored by Call of War point out the problem in their advertising material. Great job. I have seen too many creators, even though they play tank games or know quite some of history, fail to notice and voice up about the lack of quality in the advertisement.

[@vaclavholek4497]

Thank you for covering Czech weapons. I don't want this to come across as bashing the video, please consider this constructive criticism. "Czechoslovakian" is technically an acceptable term for "belonging to Czechoslovakia" just calling the subject "Czechoslovak" is much more appropriate. A "Czechoslovak tank" or the "Czechoslovak Army" is more appropriate than adding an unnecessary syllable.

[@vincnetjones3037]

This tank never went beyond the design stage as it was out of date when even in preliminary phase. 4 man crew. Armour 40mm to maybe 60mm. 20mm on sides....Front heavy, armour slabs...etc

[@Donir100]

Skoda T25 is underrated, its a very interesting project, that with good developement could work out well.

[@nahiro12345]

I would say good thing it did not for the allies. :D Prob would not change much, but It could have been a fair hindrance.

[@budwyzer77]

9:25 Yeah, the hull crew not having their own hatches should have been enough to kill this design.

[@McFluff33]

I like the Dvořák in the background. Nice Czech reference.

[@SC0RCH3er]

2:35 - thats LT vz. 34 actually, they are very similair to 35 but were made by ČKD (except for the gun which is Škoda made), both vehicles are very closely related to Vickers 6ton.

[@elektronischemusik1903]

You can find for most types of vehicles in war thunder a niche to score kills or play the objective, does not mean that these vehicles had the same value in real life. War thunder is a pit fight in an unrealistic setting without mines, trenches, infantery and marches. No 8,8 flak wagon would have dared to drive through an village or city in enemy territority like it was on a roadtrip to disneyland paris. Also, most action that most tanks saw was not against other tanks. I bet that shermans in the normandy campaign had quadrupple as much contact with infantery, paks, artillery and all kinds of lightly armored vehicles than tanks. Maybe someone here has some stats on it ready.

[@criszh2981]

Thank you for showing a tank of which i knew nothing. In my opinion it bears a strong similarity to the Somua S.35, especially in the contours and volume of its hull. There is no mention of the suspension design, but I am surprised by the small clearance between the track and the lower side hull, which suggests a limited travel for the road wheels and therefore not great handling at speed offroad.

[@rizkidary837]

My fav tier 6 alongside with hellcat, vk30.01 p (when it was medium) and cromwell

[@thhseeking]

At about 7:05 you said that it had six 70mm wheels...that's a very, very small tank :P Also, the driver and radio operator's positions are reversed in the rendering from your commentary. I suspect the error is in the rendering, as Czech tanks had the driver on the right.

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

Pocket size tank is hard to hit if you even see it.

[@garrettknox5266]

Good stuff. I didn't know they developed anything beyond the 35 & 38.

[@Superelksch]

i can definetely see why this was rejected, while it certainly was an interesting design, and one i have never heard of before, particularly the gun and the entire armor design does not look like an outstanding or very promising design for me. personally, as not a person who works in designing, to me it just seems to have awkward dimensions, the roadwheels seem oddly tiny, the tracks a bit too thin, the entire chassis looks, odd, the turret too, i think it is the angles that make it seem a bit odd to me. this design may well be due to the form of the transmission or the engine or the steering, but it just seems like the hull and tracks should be broader, the front hull angle steeper, the unnecessary angles on the engine and sides cut, the turret simplified. and at that point you have basically a panther, but with an inferior gun, engine, compartment designs and likely a highly unreliable and easy to jam automatic loading mechanism. the gun i think is the most interesting part though, i absolutely see why that alone would be a reason for rejection in ‚42, an automatic loading mechanism would be outright futuristic for the time, and it likely would have had all the setbacks of a futuristic prototype design. i don‘t see a need for this vehicle when the current designs the germans had were already adequate, the Panzer 4 with the L43/48 gun did the same job but better since it did not need a full refit of all factories and did not even need many changes to mount the bigger gun. i think the vehicle as i saw it here stands strangely between the Panzer 4 and the Panzer 5, it does not have the reliability and set up production lines of the Panzer 4, but it also has none of the advantages of the Panther. it would seem to me that an attempt to improve this vehicle and further work on its design would ultimately only lead to a smaller, less well armed and armored and less able to traverse terrain version of the Panther, which already existed in the Panzer 4. i don‘t see this vehicle having any significant advantages to a Panzer 4, that would be worth setting up an entire new production line for the situation the Wehrmacht was in in 1942-43. the production line would not even be just for the tank, it would also use a completely new gun, and as such completely different shells, you would also need different sights, different crew training, different spare parts, all things the germans already had a chronical lack of in this time period. not to mention that it would also not really fit the doctrine at the time, this vehicle may have fitted with the operational mobile warfare of 1940 to mid 1942 but in 1943 the Wehrmacht did not need a 60kmh medium tank, with mediocre armor, a highly experimental gun and a design that already was inferior to the future medium tank in the Panther.

[@ripvanwinkle2002]

TLDR

[@tonyromano6220]

😂😂

[@j.f.fisher5318]

Everything has tradeoffs. Narrow tank makes it hard to steer but means smaller frontal hull armor. It lacks the big disadvantage of the Panther being too heavy and overly complex.

[@Superelksch]

@@j.f.fisher5318 narrow tank also means bad crew comfort and little space for fuel, ammo, radio equipment, cables, transmission, final drives and the other complex things inside a tank, significantly reducing the overall effectiveness and efficiency. contrary to propaganda, the germans had very good and valid reasons to make the tanks they way they were, not sloping armor meant more space inside and it meant better structural integrety, just to name one example regarding this vehicle compared to the Panzer 4. the ground pressure of the supposed „too heavy“ german tanks is another thing constantly in debate, factum is, Panther‘s suspension, stability and ability to be driven over rough terrain or over terrain with the fear of sinking in, was better than that of the allied tanks and was on levels that was only reached again in the cold war due to the suspension system, the steering system and the wide tracks. that came at the cost of mechanical complexity and required training, but that was not a design flaw, every tank could be broken by mishandled steering, or lost due to accidents, that just was unlucky, since trained crews were another chronical scarcity in the time and this dramatically increased these accodent chances, meaning many drivers broke the suspension or final drives. a thing that definetely was a design flaw in contrast, was the need for special tracks on railway transportation, or the shot trap on the turret, whose were design flaws, not due to requirement, these could have been avoided. on an unrelated note, i read in one account from the SS-Panzer Division „Hitlerjugend“, that some of their very young drivers drove the tanks off their railway carriages and directly into a tree, and that resulted in a transmission break and an engine fire, where the automatic fire extinguisher fuel had been during training used to clean the uniforms, and so the tank burned out entirely, take that with a sack of salt since it is a memoire, that is not necessarily related, but you could also take that overall as a design flaw, they could have designed it easier to handle, but designing a handling for untrained crews, and considering the german tanks already were really easy and smooth to steer, i dont think that is a valid point to make. again, i am saying, these tanks were not necessarily unreliable, simply harder to maintain and learn to use, not a fault of the tank or its design, it is due to the overall situation the german army and industry was in, many were also built by slave labour and with inferior material, resulting in further vulnerability to mishandling, breakdowns and faulty repairs. they were also not underpowered as propganda would make you believe, their Ps to weight ratio was very similar to allied tanks, the Tiger II for example had the same PS/Weight ratio as the IS2, for example. in addition, the Panther would have had maybe a worse maximum speed, but that is only a videogame statistic, what matters is offroad speed and manouverability, in battle, maximum speed in not really a factor. so while the german tanks had worse top speeds and strategical manouverability, but again, mainly due to the overall wartime situation, bombed roads, impossible to move troops during daytime, unable to cross smaller bridges. and the chronical lack of fuel, meaning it had to be strictly rationed and all engines were only allowed to run on a certain maximum RPM to save fuel, they had excellent cross country manouverabiltiy, designed for the extremely harsh conditions of the soviet territory. this T vehicle in constrast, with its high center of gravity and thin tracks with small roadwheels, would in the conditions of the eastern front very likely immediately get stuck in the mud just like the Shermans did, if not tip over first. in regards to complexety, again, there was very good strategic reasons as to why german vehicles where built to what specifications, and assuming you talk about the suspension, transmission and internal systems of the Panther, no, they are not „overly complex.“ they were just designed for very rough terrains and conditions. german vehicles were not more unreliable than others, they simply were not able to be repaired more often than not and then would be cannibalized for parts, resulting in a loss of the vehicle. but that was not a designs flaw, that was the chronical lack of spare parts hurting them, unreliability is inherent to any complex system like a tank, the german reputation comes down mainly to propaganda, shermans and t34 broke down constantly too, or had mechanical failures, the difference was just that the allies of the time always had reserve vehicles and enough spare parts to maintain the vehicles instantly so they would not need to send every damaged tank back to the assembly plant or cannibalize other tanks on the spot. also, as i mentioned before, the automatic loading mechanism alone would in this stage of time be so unreliable that i can‘t really understand why you say this vehicle is not equally as „overcomplex“, because if such a system would have been aviable and ready for service, then military‘s would have picked it up.

[@askalon2988]

I am Czech, and this is actually the firsth time I hear someone on KZbin prounounce "Škoda" correctly

[@gusgone4527]

Skoda should have built Pander IV. Either the entire thing or supplied components.

[@wanderschlosser1857]

They probably did. Furthermore all kind of vehicles based on the Pz38(t) chassis, like self-propelled howitzers, Marder III and Hetzer.

[@kaiserjohnny4098]

honestly, I think Skoda is the most underappreciated company for the axis powers ngl

[@hannesromhild8532]

because it was very much substandard.

[@Mercurywheeler]

​@@hannesromhild8532Substandard? In what way?

[@hannesromhild8532]

@@Mercurywheeler They were very limited in what they could build wich is why they never got involved in making german Tanks or Stugs. the largest they could make was the Jagdpanzer 38 and that was already the limit. Also they have been behind in welding capacity wich is why there czech tanks are all riveted. In many ways Skoda was not up to german standards.

[@Krejza82]

​@@hannesromhild8532 I would say it had something to do with Protectorate of B&M.

[@hannesromhild8532]

@@Krejza82 That has absolutely nothing to do with it.

[@vantabuna1235]

On a quick watch/hearing I spot several factual mistakes: at 7:03 - the road wheels were 700 mm, not 70 mm; at 9:20 - the driver is on the left, not on the right, the radio operator is on the right, not on the left. The commander was behind the gunner, not beside him. The included crew placement picture has nothing to do with T25, it's a Panther.

[@TotalRookie_LV]

5:23 and 8:55 - I'd say those drawings show a round turret, not one made of welded flat slabs, sure, the very front part is flat, I guess it makes installing gun mantlet easier, but notice sight curves in the frontal view, where parts come together and lines showing the most of turret being conical in shape.

[@jhonfloibelmiculob6581]

This is the only tank in WOTB that I have 65% winrate on it. Despite that my account victory rate is 49%

[@fangzu612]

nice

[@kaiserjohnny4098]

honestly i think skoda is the most underappreciated company for the axis powers ngl

[@czwarty7878]

at 1:45 the audio gets doubled

[@loonowolf2160]

If it had more armor that allow for shells to bounce that would perfect tank, like Panther V

[@bryansammis998]

And if I remember, one of the directors of Skoda Albert Goering ( Yes! Herman’s brother) was using Skoda to get Jews out of Czechoslovakia. That might have been a contributing factor in Skoda not getting the deal. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIDOq4mXZ9VkbZIsi=EPWyFnprJMpXaKrN

[@brealistic3542]

Good video. In game WOT its nice. Least there is enough info to make this a plausible and producable tank.

[@lukyCV]

You have got wrong map at 1:33. It is missing Carpathian Ruthenia. Anyway good video.

[@GaryBrown-m3p]

The chormell was also last by production. But eas ued

[@louisbabycos106]

Logistics. Its so different.

[@xaviert.123]

7:04 70mm road wheels? That's tiny, are you sure?

[@이동연-c6d]

Please make a video about the South Korean tank development history as well. :)

[@Ankylodon27]

Would love to see the Vk 16.02 tank

[@ivorynargie]

I mean, it was the panther's prototype before production

[@Leopard-2A6..]

No it's not? The vk 16. 02 is the leopard​@@ivorynargie

[@ivorynargie]

@@Leopard-2A6.. oh shit, yeah, mistook it with the panther's prototype

[@Floreal78]

It just looks weird and cheap with strange dimensions, like a plywood mockup on a tracked chassis made for a low budget WW2 movie in the 1970s.

[@RedXlV]

While the Panzer IV F2/G and H/J with their long 7.5cm were better options than the Skoda T-25, I have to wonder whether that autoloader could've been incorporated into the German tanks.

[@JGCR59]

Kein Sitzschplatsch im Autobutsch von Skoda mehr frei ;)

[@aigaro9736]

It looks a bit like a Panther ausf. F turret on Hungarian 44M Tas Biggest problem in the desgin I see is no hatches for Driver and Hull Gunner to leave.

[@alancox5777]

I’m confused. U said a rear drive sprocket but the renders show from and rear

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

Both are sprockets, but only the rear ones are powered.

[@alancox5777]

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT but from a design aspect that makes no sense as free wheeling sprockets or sprocketed idlers would just cause extra design cost and track wear.

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

It's something the Czechs did a lot. It reduced the chance of the track slipping off.@@alancox5777

[@alancox5777]

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT that’s surely a Czech “isum” or something as we all know it’s as I previously stated. If it were that good and idea or was effective at stopping a shit driver throwing a track we would see it on Abram’s t-series. 55 up to present. Leopard challenger ect ect

[@alancox5777]

@@filipbitala2624 no doubt CZ produce some awesome firearms and my mum had a tank of a Skoda when I was a kid. ( real Skoda before vw/audi ) it’s just a very “German” over engineering that’s not needed

[@EukalyptusBonBon]

Imo it looks similar to Italian P-40 tank to me

[@Sero12245]

Can it ram like the Rammen Panzer kampfwagen 5/4 ?

[@ivantsang2156]

A okay tier 5 German medium tank in WOT🎉

[@TheArklyte]

The irony is that had germans accepted it into production, they would have had a far more effective chassis when they turned their eyes to production of -Maresal- Hetzer. Not to mention that while it might have been "obsolete"(unlike on paper and in dreams, germans were never able to fully phase out Pz IV in favour of Panther so it would still be an improvement) by german standards, it would have given a source of more competitive vehicles to german "allies". As well as being a base for their own vehicles instead of usual suspects like LT vz 35 or T-20(aka Turan) serving as inspiration or base.

[@genericpersonx333]

An issue is that Skoda would have needed a lot more rebuilding to really change what it was doing, and that would have been potentially expensive and time-consuming. It is well-documented (consult Doyle and other prominent names) that the Germans found the Skoda factories lacked the tools and infrastructure to process vehicles larger than the Panzer 38(t), as the Czechs had never got around to installing bigger cranes, rails, and other equipment necessary to physically moving the incomplete components around the factory; Can't really make a tank with a 20-tonne hull if your cranes can only lift 16-tonnes, that sort of thing. That was one of the big incentives to make Panzerjaeger 38(t), because it could be made with basically the same tools as the original tanks without major modification to the factory. It is probably this problem of tooling, the need to rebuild the factory to make large numbers of bigger tanks like T25, that is why Germany declined to invest in the T25 project in favor of building new factories for more promising Germany designs.

[@kirgan1000]

What do you want? Hetzer, that can be built now, in existing factories, with existing machine tools, that consume little material, or the unproven T-25, that need factorys to be retrofitted with new machine tools, that is only marginal better then the venerable Panzer IV, that is now proven and in full production. T-25 do also take great technical risk, a 2 man turret with a autoloader. Like all the German allierd tanks, they was at best marginal better, so they fall on, we have the Panzer III and Panzer IV in full production, the change is not worth the effort. 38(t)/Hetzer get a pass, Czechoslovakia did already have the factorys and the machine tools, to make them on a large scale.

[@TheArklyte]

@@kirgan1000 you don't get it. Skoda T-24/25 was 1941-1942 project. Hetzer entered the field in 1944. Meaning that had they accepted 1942, the factories would have been already expanded and modernized by the time they decided to produce Hetzer. If you can somehow suggest Hetzer to germans in 1942, be my guest:D

[@kirgan1000]

@@TheArklyte I missed the date. But my question still stand, T-25 is at best marginal better then Panzer IV, so why re-tool the production lines for the unproven T-25? Why rebuild the Czechoslovakian (t)38 factories (that is maxed out in tank size) Then light tanks still can perform useful task 1941-1942 and Gremany can use the same resursers to build out the Panzer IV factories.

[@TheArklyte]

@@kirgan1000 1)Skoda produced T-21/22 prototype on that very production line. You might know it by the name Turan in hungarian services or R-3 in romanian (planned) licensing. Moreover production facilities were modified either way. One of the most notable examples being changing the tooling and production line to widen the hull for production of Grille SPG. 2)not same resources. Expanded resource pool with more tooling, more workers and more factories involved. T-24/25 wasn't going to use factories built from scratch and workforce imported from Germany. If anything, it's production capacity that failed Germany before the resources did. Allied bombing had seen to the fact that Germany failed to turn all captured equipment into steel to produce "superior" german equipment instead. So there were soviet tanks that were possible to restore to combat condition that were rotting away in the field instead. Same thing here. This is an increase into production capacity of medium tanks and assault guns. 3)this is hypothetical scenario that relies on post-WWII knowledge. Of course germans in 1942 believed that they _wouldn't stoop so low as to use obsolete czech vehicles._ Until they did exactly that 2 years later :D

[@clivedinosaur8407]

We'll get sponsored by Call Of War, but we'll include a lot of screenshots from World of Tanks....

[@haouribi]

“Online games”: Literally just WoT and WT

[@ANTOperator]

There was two or three mobile games that had it too. Drawing blanks rn but I seen it.

[@thundermite1241]

Have you done a video on the ford 3ton tankette?

[@WorldOfTanksFakeChannel]

The only skoda that we can afford

[@GuyInBlackClothes]

I would like this to be in War Thunder.

[@keithbaker1951]

Yep me too

[@fawnfoxmatter4969]

Hi, I really liked the video (keep up the great work👏👍). Could you make a video about howitzer tank ShKH vz. 77 ¨Dana¨ ? It is another tank from Czechoslovakia.

[@kubauhlir1730]

Except it's not a tank by any means, it's a wheeled SPG 🤦

[@jirja3192]

2:33 That is a P-II-a tank made by ČKD, not Škoda.

[@michalman717]

@@filipbitala2624 I originally wanted to contradict you. But on second glance, it is clearly a P-II-a prototype from ČKD and not a serial version of the LT vz.34. But in any case, it is not a LT vz.35 from Škoda.

[@jirja3192]

@@michalman717You are right, I wrote it before making sure it's P-II-a. To say it simply, it's a tank by ČKD/Praga and not Škoda.

[@Stroopwaffe1]

3 different models in world of tanks blitz the premium one is the best.

[@jvcollins1965]

what was "cage"over the halftrack (?) at 2:58 - almost looks like a cope cage

[@harmdallmeyer6449]

It's an antenna

[@jean-francoislemieux5509]

lol i think i just SOLD mine yesterday! what a coincidence! too fragile of a tank for that tier. I think it was never built because germans preferred the hetzers

[@michaelkaiser1864]

had it. unimpressed. armor was crap. that gun on another body would have been pretty good tho.

[@michalman717]

Yes, it appears weaker, in an unrealistic arcade game, against an incredible amount of heavy tanks and vehicles two tiers higher. And against vehicles so heavy that they would break before they even hit the battlefield. In real combat, against T-34s, Valentines, Cromwells, and M4s, without the absurd hit point system, this vehicle would be much better than it appears in the game.

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

11:10 Dont give Wargaming any ideas Do not allow the Tiger I with autoloaded 75mm

[@r.ndomperson]

im pretty sure that already exists in wot man

[@martinondrascin9743]

Your map of Czechoslovakia after fall of Austria-Hungary is mistaken for second Czechoslovak republic after WW2...

[@tarkalak]

A minor tidbit. Your map of Czechoslovakia is the post WWII one. The eastern 1/3 rd of Slovakia was ceded to the USSR after WWII and is today a part of Ukraine.

[@WildBillCox13]

Not an expert: My thoughts? Combat operations utilizing any tank with a two man turret crew (including T34/76, M13/40, and LT VZ.38) was problematic due to task saturation. In the first place your TC can't maintain situational awareness while operating or loading the gun. Further, you need a dedicated loader in the turret in addition to the TC and gunner. All German tanks after Pzkw II were three man turret types*. The CKD was not. This is also part of the reason why the T21 was not chosen for German service. * PzKw III, PzKw IV, Tiger, Panther, Tiger II. All three man turret types.

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

But this was meant to be autoloaded

[@wobblewarfare4494]

the turret looks like bald vegeta

[@TheGhostofCarlSchmitt]

hauntology intensifies!

[@dominuslogik484]

looks like something a person would make in sprocket...

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

It does.

[@ambasutori9053]

Honestly, the lack of any hull crew hatches just makes it seem to me like czech designers wanted to make a buck AND get some SS tankers killed in the process, but thats just me lmfao.

[@rdendelacruz4332]

Thats sad.....

[@bobert964]

No one want to talk about armored truck 2:57

[@markluizvidaurreta2081]

Plss. Make a video about the rare tank of the Bangladesh army the TYPE 62 SPH.

[@fahmiawaludin1784]

The link cannot be used😢

[@이동연-c6d]

It is much better than Panther…

[@Very_spicyseaweed]

strange sponsor to have on a video about a tank that people only know from blitz

[@ripvanwinkle2002]

it COULD have been good but Skoda was already making good enough tanks for the nazis so it was never going to be produced..

[@JGCR59]

Two reasons also I guess. 1. CKD and Skoda largely worked with the tooling inherited from Austria-Hungary. They would have needed significant upgrading in order to produce anything bigger than a 38t design. Also welding was a problem. I mean the Jagdpanzer 38/Hetzer was basically built because it was the most useful vehicle that ckd and skoda were able to build without further investment . Secondly Heydrichs assassination. Heydrich treated the Protectorate as his own fiefdom and made use of Czech industry and therefore gave a lot of leeway to firms like Skoda. His successors did not.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

also, JPz 38 production was motivated by damage to StuG III lines due to allied bombing.

[@hyennussquatch4597]

"CKD and Skoda largely worked with the tooling inherited from Austria-Hungary" What do you mean? These two companies existed during imperial times. So how they inherited the tooling from themselves...?

[@jonmiller3996]

yet you mention not as to why gamers have embraced it though, i feel like im missing the rest of the story.

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

0:57 "embraced by gamers" is most likely a reference to most of us knowing the tank because it was depicted in WoT/WoTB

[@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b]

Great video, thanks! It makes you wonder why they didn't sign a pact with Poland and Britain and France? If they supplied Poland with tanks that would have changed things!

[@sword_of_sanghelios]

I would say that czechia and poland weren't alies at that time!

[@genericpersonx333]

It is important to the remember that just because people have common enemies does not mean they are friendly to each other, geopolitically-speaking. Czechoslovakia and Poland were hostile to each other over border disputes from the earliest days of their formations following the Great War. Poland, in particularly, invaded their neighbor multiple times INCLUDING NOVEMBER OF 1938. Yes, not even a year before the Germans invaded Poland, Poles invaded Slovakia. The Czechoslovaks had very little love for Poles and indeed, many Slovaks, despite being "occupied" by the Germans at that point, actively helped Germany fight Poland because they hated the Poles more than the Germans. Long and short, the nature of alliances and cooperation between nations in great wars is never as simple as one side is the good guys everyone should want to be fighting for and the other are the bad guys no one should want to fight. It usually is more a bunch of peoples picking the side that seems to offer the best path to success after the war based on what they know at the time, and changing their minds as the situation evolves.

[@sword_of_sanghelios]

@@genericpersonx333 thanks for expanding

[@genericpersonx333]

You are welcome. I must admit I was shocked myself when I first learned just how bitter relations were all over Europe on the eve of the Second World War with most everyone at odds with everyone else. It is really an important part of European history that is just overlooked way too often by the big histories of the war. @@sword_of_sanghelios

[@sword_of_sanghelios]

@@filipbitala2624 i know that soviet wanted too send the army to help czechslavkia in 1938 but poland refused to let soviet army pass through it's land

[@yosawin3018]

It looks like some weird thing inspired by the french or the Soviets lol.

[@funtimewithhuskyman5601]

Great video, but calling soviet tanks 'superior' (4:56) is a bit wrong in my opinion, shall I explain?

[@mrllamaton1873]

BLITZ! BLITZ BLITZ!

[@lerondgattenor]

Czech OwO

[@sword_of_sanghelios]

OwO looks like a cat

[@lerondgattenor]

@@sword_of_sanghelios It kinda is lol

[@jlvfr]

From what I've read, the T-25 two problems. First, it required multiple new technologies (brand new engine, brand new gun, new autoloader...) that would require develoment and severely afect both industrial production and logistics. The second was politics: there was _no way_ Hitler would allow a non-german tank to become the new tank of the german army, not to mention robbing the nezi industrialists he depended upon of all the lucrative tank contracts,

[@lebien4554]

Why was Skoda so eager to help the Nazis?

[@rubberwoody]

They were basically occupied and annexed

[@lebien4554]

@@rubberwoody even more reasons to be less cooperative. Or at least not help the nazis improve their military

[@rubberwoody]

@@lebien4554 it was slave labor

[@Mercurywheeler]

​​@@lebien4554which is what they did. The technical director Vilem Hromadko even leaked info to the soviets that the Germans are planning to invade. Furthermore, there were a lot of purposful defects in the production at the beginning, however the Germans noticed and then imposed brutal measures to eliminate people who were responsible or just sluggish. Don't forget, the factory wasn't Skoda during the war, it was owned by the conglomerate HermannGoeringWerke, Goerings brother was put in place as a director. (Altough he was actually a good one, he cooperated with the resistance)

[@mahinakbari1647]

Poor, poor thing.

[@xmeda]

Czechoslovakia was also occupied by Poland and Hungary who both took over some territories. Poles took area around Tesin and behaved there like true occupiers..

[@pz_jge1002]

hvorfor kjøpe skoda når du kan gå da?

[@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044]

Gamers...

[@rybakawalarz]

Why you use post war europe map about pre war tanks? LUL

[@adcaptandumvulgus4252]

You lie that premium tank is a piece of s*** unless they buffed it recently and I don't know about it the gun handling is atrocious the acceleration is decent but sluggish and it's as big and fat and heavy as a hippo so think of want to be panther without the good things of the panther doesn't even have an auto loader like it should

[@rubberwoody]

The tier V non premium in the Czech tree does have the autoloader

[@fangzu612]

@@rubberwoody6

[@fangzu612]

skill issue

[@amarhusic3519]

As guy who had this tank best tank 3 shot is op I suggest all with gold to buy this and troll people:]

[@nobodyspecial115]

That gun in the Skoda A 18 Tiger 1 is so much fun, I even have a hero skin for my T25. Screw the German one though with it's single shot

[@amarhusic3519]

@@nobodyspecial115 yeah

[@f4ust85]

Its so apparent this is a Russian-made video: the salty tone, "subtle" remarks about "superior soviet tanks", blaming all Europe of "helping Germans" (how many Russians worked in the Reich, over one and half million served in the German army...)... you people are hilarious, such raging inferiority complex.

[@admiralvulfgangvongondkov9819]

you are constantly using post 1945 maps of central europe in contex of pre 1938

[@KansasHempMan]

"Acquiring new lands" except the lands the NSDAP took back were truly historically German and a lot of that land was taken away at Versailles and St. Germanine.

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

As a WoTB player, i also regret it, it's ugly, slow, and unarmored.

[@fangzu612]

skill issue

[@petraral8868]

sf

[@bryansammis998]

If Germany accepted the T-25, that could have been a serious game changer in favor of Germany

[@kobeh6185]

Doubt. Its ballistic efficiency is pretty poor, it has worse frontal armor than the Sherman overall. The gun was decent, but not better in penetration than the KwK40 on the panzer 4 F2-J. We don't know enough about it to make that call, plus what really matters is whether it was easier to maintain and repair than indigenous german tanks, which were generally awful in this regard.

[@bryansammis998]

@@kobeh6185 and for its time it might have been speed demon

[@kirgan1000]

In what way is the T-25 so superior to the now proven Panzer IV, that its worth the effort to re-tool the factorys in Germany for T-25.

[@kirgan1000]

@@kobeh6185 In what way was the T-25 so superior in maintain and repair compare to the Panzer IV? Never herd about Panzer IV was hard to repair or maintain, compared to other medium tanks of that era.

[@bryansammis998]

@@kirgan1000 the “ 3shit automatic cannon” the improved angular armor, and( depending on one’s source) it has increased speed🤔👍

[@MilošJanković-k6h]

Pff,who stills plays outdated World of Tanks.War Thunder is better in any way!!!

[@CorvusVonRex]

Shut it bot. Go stay in the corner and droll over your WT. Both games is awesome. Nuff said.

[@MilošJanković-k6h]

WOT Is trash,bot.@@CorvusVonRex

[@fangzu612]

@@CorvusVonRexdont even bother about these typical type of wt player being slave of russia 😂