Desperation and Improvization | Panzer I Ausf.B mit 7.5 cm StuK 40

[@pavelslama5543]

This really looks like the vehicle was positioned behind a building to act as a lone ambusher, and once it broke down, the crew was like "NOPE, Im out of here", and left it as it was...

[@w0lfgm]

This looks like desperate WG would add to the WoT to earn more money....Anyway great video as always.

[@arandomfawn5289]

Tier IV, tank destroyer with 500 hp

[@F1avorF1av]

More like war thunder.

[@F1avorF1av]

As it was actually made

[@arandomfawn5289]

@@F1avorF1av itll be an event vehicle, 2.3 and cost 140$ on thr market

[@raymartcarreon6069]

​@@arandomfawn5289 and the grind is just gonna make you depressed at life

[@alessiodecarolis]

Looking how the "PzJager" wasn't damaged, except for the front wheels, and the lack of holes or other battle 's signs, it ' s VERY probable that the crew decided that their lives were more worth than Germany's "Honor" and make the logical choice...."Screw this, I'm outta there!". At this point any resistance was totally hopeless, at least for europeans' mentality (naturally with japanese it's another matter!)

[@nightshade4873]

oh jeez, here we are getting closer to ConeOfArc's 170cm Panzer II.

[@BasedMan]

Or the Polish TKS Tankette with a 200mm naval cannon

[@clouddog2393]

Almost certain it was used in a last ditch attempt to drive back the Soviets . It would probably be dug in as driving around with the extra weight would have taxed the engine leading to breakdowns . If any more like the one in the photo were built they might well have had shock absorbers fitted at the rear as the recoil from the Stuk 40 must have been fierce . Fascinating video . How about covering the Alfred Becker improvisations used by the German forces during the Normandy campaign ?

[@chrismario6371]

The Germans did put 150mm mountain guns on the panzer 1. I think they stopped using it due to its poor crew protection and inability to carry ammunition, rather than the gun taxing it.

[@brokeandtired]

@@chrismario6371 The 150mm was a low range/recoil gun. It wasn't a mountain gun...it was standard army Infantry Gun, in similar usage to the 75mm US Paratrooper Artillery gun. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_cm_sIG_33 The KwK 40 repurposed Stug III gun had far nastier recoil.

[@kawaiiarchive357]

I like all the repurposed PZ I and IIs, they make fun vehicles in WT. It feels like using a pistol instead of a rifle in a FPS like BF.

[@cosmoray9750]

Putin debunks Tucker Carlson's warmongering....... kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKuolGh9l7iVf7c Not the political affiliation...just the facts

[@nonamesplease6288]

Love that footage of the old APG Ordnance Museum. All of that stuff is in better homes now, but, oh, the memories from my youth!

[@staticaleel5068]

I need this in war thunder now. It’d just be cool having another real panzer one representative in game

[@melonshop8888]

NEW MOD ADD ON FOR WAR THUNDER.

[@ihatecabbage7270]

Thank you for the amazing detail.

[@ME262MKI]

- Mom, can we have a grille 15? Mom: no, we have a grille 15 at home already The grille 15 at home:

[@rzarco01]

The Pak40 may have been heavy, but the Gwrmans previously mounted the 15cm sIG on the Panzer I and used the resulting vehicle as mobile artillery. Not many were made, but these early Panzer I conversions show that the vehicle could bear a surprising amount of weight and still remain somewhat mobile.

[@rubberwoody]

i'd go so far to say, despite being half the caliber, the pak 40 was twice the weight of the 15cm

[@chiriematthieu]

So it s not a panzer 4 gun but a stug3 gun. Althought it is basicly the same gun barrel, the gun mount and recoil system are different. A stug3 gun mount is bolted to the flor and carry both traverse and elevation system. Thus it is easy to fit it on anything, just bolt it onto it. While the pz4 gun mount only carry the elevation and need to be fixed to the front (vertical part) of a turret. So fitting it onto anything require the addition/creation of a new gun mount that take care of fitting and traverse.

[@Panzermeister36]

Correct. It's a Sturmkanone (StuK), not a Kampfwagenkanone (KwK) or Panzerabwehrkanone (PaK). I don't know why they call it a PaK 40 throughout the video; that is very incorrect.

[@phoenix211245]

​@@Panzermeister36Probably, just like myself, these designations are kinda uncommon to the lay person. It's the first time I've heard this, and I've been gathering in depth trivia on WW2 for years.

[@jlvfr]

I'd have thought the recoil would send the entire vehicle flying back the next city block...

[@danielaramburo7648]

The recoil probably damaged the tank frame and suspension. Over time the damage would cause breakdowns.

[@Sofus.]

I think it is very likely that the vehicle came from a driving school, probably built by young cadets, in a last ditch effort.⚙

[@derrickstorm6976]

Yea because guns were in such abundance some hobbyists got their hands on one

[@MrReymoclif714]

Dedicated youth of society?

[@ivan_says_hi]

​@@derrickstorm6976they almost certainly had recovered more guns from disabled vehicles than they had able vehicles to fit them on. It's a lot easier to recover just a gun rather than a whole disabled vehicle.

Quite interesting vehicle and nicely done video. Thx

[@stevedawe1553]

Thank you; very Interesting video. Borgward IV Panzerjäger Wanze next?

[@HeinzGuderian_]

This will be next year's Tier 3 Premium Birthday present from World Of Tanks.

[@GreySectoid]

The vehicle had still the travel lock on, seems it never fired a shot, maybe it was manned by low morale troops who fled and abandoned it at the first opportunity.

[@mattbowden4996]

I'm going to go against the consensus a bit here. Although this was clearly a failure, it's not an entirely terrible idea. If the vehicle was built and deployed with the strict understanding that it nothing more than a self-propelled anti-tank gun rather than a "proper" SPG, the concept has some merit - similar to the lighter Waffentrager designs but with the advantage of using a fairly plentiful, obsolete hull rather than anything that required new production. The problem is that the chassis would probably need to be modified a lot more extensively to accept such a relatively powerful gun, rather defeating the point of the conversion. 10/10 for effort, however. I can see what they were trying to do...

[@MrReymoclif714]

Avoid SIBERIA.

[@Ulani101]

As long as the gun was only fired over the front of the hull, and not traversed too far to either side, it should have been a practical firing platform. Like the RSO Mit PaK 40. Moving it under its own power, on the other hand.....

[@Dreska_]

May as well have been a traditional field gun with a pz1 acting as a towing vehicle especially considering the extensive modification it took to fit it on a pz1 I wouldn't be surprised if this largely exists because the factory workers needed to keep busy so they weren't handed a rifle & sent to the front lines

[@guameldestruir6239]

I think 7.5 cm StuK 40 (Sf) auf Panzerkampfwagen I ohne Turm might be a more applicable designation referring back to the Panzerjäger I's proper designation.

[@markopantelic3088]

This is actually a good point thanks! I will add it to the article.

[@kittyhawk9707]

The gun was still in it's locked travelling position .. the rods still connecting it to the hull .. so I doubt it ever saw any combat .. unless it broke down trying to get the hell out of dodge and got abandoned by its crew and simply left

[@tomhoni9642]

Ausf. B = short for Ausführung B, which means Mark II StuK = short for Sturm-Kanone = assault cannon, StuK is used when you put a Pak on a self propelled assault gun design although its basically the same gun, here the Pak 40 same with KwK on other Panzers: KwK means Kampfwagenkanone = literally battlewagon cannon, that designation is used on Panzers with a rotating turret we Germans like our accurate designations^^ in a worldwar about strangest shortcuts nobody would stand a chance xD greetings from Bavaria

[@lewcrowley3710]

nope. Close but no cigar

[@rubberwoody]

and yet the Ausf. B. doesn't even necessarily mean it's the second mark, just the second production batch

[@TallDude73]

Interesting - a whole video based on a single photograph. Why not?👍

[@ihatecabbage7270]

Panzer 1 already struggle with the 50mm Pak AT guns. Now they mount an even larger gun for an ever smaller tank. Why don't they just tow it with a panzer 1...... Maybe to their logic a mounted gun can be deployed faster than a tiwed one. Then again it is already the end, desperation makes you do anything. By the looks of the tank, it probably shot a few shells, wrecked the track which cannot be repaired, then abandoned. It wasn't destroyed thus most likely the Russian simply ran past it as it was abandoned, the German crew who field it probably not in the mood to destroy a relatively useless last ditch equipment, as is more important to retreat or save themselves at this point.

[@anthonydavella8350]

nothing mattered by this time. The heartless bloodthirsty were done

[@wolfehoffmann2697]

It wasn't a towable gun, it was pulled out of another broken AFV. By the time you fabricate a carriage for it, you might as well have mounted to a vehicle anyways.

[@MrReymoclif714]

Trying to refund the one way ticket to Siberia being passed around at that time?

[@mattholland8966]

If you look, the gun barrel is resting on the travel lock, so it wasn't in action when abandoned.

[@steffent.6477]

So many cool vehicles for Warthunder^^

[@andrewstrongman305]

The Germans would have been better off melting down Pz 1 components to use the steel in better vehicles.

[@rubberwoody]

yes and how many factories were left standing to make those better vehicles during the fall of berlin?

[@grovehoLP]

@@rubberwoody idk make it in your backyard

[@Ulani101]

Strange to see the gun still in its travel cradle, if it had been used. How far would a gunner dare traverse before firing, worrying about the conglomerate flipping over? As for its practicality? It's a good enough gun that it would still kill T34s from ambush. Shooting and scooting seems to be a bit of an unreasonable expectation with that chassis and power train

[@kessel251]

The gun barrel travel lock is in place. It wasn't using its gun in combat.

[@CZ350tuner]

The 7.5cm. L.48 StuK.40 was derived from the 7.5cm. L.48 PaK.39, NOT The 7.5cm. L.46 PaK.40, the latter using a larger and fatter "Magnum" shell casing.

[@lewcrowley3710]

No. The StuK 40 and KWK 40 were developed at the same as the Pak 40. The Pak 39 was developed for the Hetzer and JgdP IV. The narrator is mistaken.

[@peterespada6226]

There’s actually a model kit of this combo-in the Dragon/DML line. Check it out.

[@janwitts2688]

They overloaded the pz1 chassis with a SIG 15cm so this isn't that far a step... pz1 weren't entirely relegated to training, many had their track units reused to make half track trucks.

[@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b]

Thanks for the history! Why you using so much WW1 footage for 1945 Germany?

[@richsmith7200]

Some almost look like scaffolding with tracks and a gun. Talk about exposure to return fire, including rocks being thrown from close range.

[@wbpoole3]

It the German equivalent of hey hold my beer, I'm mount a big AT gun to a small tank.. I'm sure a bet was made also 😂

[@grahambell5340]

These videos are well presented and researched. Unfortunately, the film clips shown must have been put there randomly ,many from the wrong war. They bear no relation to the actual commentary

[@rarocon]

The gun on the picture is in transport state with barel locked to chassis .. there is good chance that it never did shoot at an enemy .. when its track got loose and wheels stuck to the ground ..

[@memofromessex]

I have no idea why I find guns, tanks and planes so interesting :/

[@Nperez1986]

War Thunder NEEDS to add this tank...is was REAL, thus should be allowed as a fun tank to have :P

[@mathiasbartl9393]

This seems more likely a gunnery training vehicle.

[@crapphone7744]

The travel lock for the barrel is still in place. This thing never fired a shot at least not at the site it's at. Given how things were going then could have been driven their broken-down or the crew just ran off the minute the Russians appeared.

[@xray86delta]

It reminds me of the "Paris gun" from World War I. Only a photograph remains of it to prove it was real.

[@Absaalookemensch]

It's as ridiculous as mounting a PaK 44, 12.8 cm gun on a Universal Carrier.

[@edwardcnnell2853]

Short on everything I believe they took the turrets from the Panzer 1s and used them as pillbox emplacements.

[@guessundheit6494]

If it existed, it was a ludicrous idea. I would have had the underpowered tanks towing artillery guns, letting the gun's own wheels handle the weight and its design handle the recoil.

[@joshuambodie9410]

the german version of the chi ha lg

[@Luck00001]

german Soldiers :fuhrer can we have Chi Ha long gun fuhrer: No we have Chi ha Long gun at home Chi Ha long gun at home :

[@podnolej7784]

When people say why don't they just stop fighting? Would you?

[@verstappen9937]

I wouldn’t call the panzer 1 “obsolete” in 1939??? We aren’t comparing it to standard tanks. It was designed for lightning war and was VERY successful with the Panzer 2 at taking nations at speed

[@rubberwoody]

Nations can use obsolete tech in innovative ways

[@derkommmandant667]

It is literally the Chi-ha long gun

[@melonshop8888]

KATO ON PZ1

[@SRDPS2]

Ah yes * get 7.62 *

[@matthewcherrington2634]

This makes me think that a twin linked 12.8 cm could be mounted on a king tiger hull

[@BasedMan]

As if the regular Jagdtiger wasnt heavy and unreliable enough already. Maybe with just a gunshield or as an open top vehicle for anti-air or artillery use Still, no reason to use such a heavily armoured chassis for that, let alone two guns. Better save the space for more ammo and a replacement barrel if need be.

[@Panzermeister36]

Great video, but why are you calling this a PaK (Panzerabwehrkanone) 40 throughout the video when it is clearly a StuK (Sturmkanone) 40? These are visually similar but functionally completely different guns.

[@homerogarzajr1787]

You could do the Karl Wilhelm Krause Flakpanzer IV

[@parrot849]

When you described the Panzer I you never mentioned the Panzer I Ausf. F. I think that variant deserves a brief mention because of it’s beefed up armor package and other minor improvements. If they had only gone a bit farther and replaced the twin MGs for one or two 20mm cannon they would have a decent small AFV.

[@Panzermeister36]

But that's a completely different vehicle. No components are shared between them.

[@andrewstrongman305]

One of the main points of this video was that the tiny chassis was overburdened from the start. The Pz II was a great improvement as it had a more powerful engine, better mobility, and better armour.

[@ihatecabbage7270]

That is a very different tank, few were build and most were abandoned at the western front.

[@parrot849]

@@ihatecabbage7270 - yes indeed, different. But in my opinion a decent attempt to upgrade the Pz. 1. Everything I’ve read about Ausf. F leads me to believe they were eventually all sent east rather than used anywhere in the western front. Do you have some additional source material about this abandonment at the western front?

[@parrot849]

@@Panzermeister36 - True, but I think that any discussion of the history of the transition from Pk. I To Pk. II needs to at least give mention to Pk. I Ausf f, simply because it was a final attempt to make significant upgrades in armor protection and wider tracks to the Pk. I. The fact only 30 to 33 were built doesn’t take away it’s historical significance.

[@keypusher]

nice video, but "Desperation" is mispelled

[@kittyhawk9707]

Seems rather ironic that the Germans started the war with the Panzer 1 and ended up losing the war still using the Panzer 1 semi modded of course .. despite all the technical advances they made during the war ... I bet the Soviets where pretty erm .. shocked to see that in the middle of Berlin in 45

[@comentedonakeyboard]

Desperate times inspire desperate attempts.

[@Drownedinblood]

This brings up an interesting point, why are soviet guns not given the praise that German guns get if the 85mm matches 75mm and the 122mm outperforms the 88mm?

[@off6848]

122mm didn’t out perform the 88mm though. The HE was strong but the AP shells were terrible it was less accurate and a more extreme parabolic arc Part of what made German guns great were their optics

[@thomass.8943]

I Think this is not the "Duty Place". This looks more like a "Trophy Show Area".. If you have a closer look to this well known picture you will see the wreck of a Ju87 Stuka, a Feldhaubitze and other stuff. That's the reason for the attached travel lock. The Russians have some of those places after the battle...

[@christineshotton824]

Since the Germans clearly understood the utility of shaped charge HEAT rounds, I wonder why they didn't put lightweight low pressure guns firing 75mm or 88mm HEAT rounds on obsolete older tanks. Guns like this armed many 1950s-1970s recon vehicles and armored cars. South Africa destroyed many T-54s and T-55s with Panhard and Ratel armored cars armed with low pressure 90mm guns firing HEAT rounds. And T-54s and T-55s were monsters compared to WWII armor. I would think that Panzer IIs or 38ts rearmed with an equivalent weapon would have been quite handy in defense.

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

Cumulative charges were in their infancy and their performance was really poor.

[@christineshotton824]

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT The HEAT round used in the L56 88mm gun (the Hl.39) as well as the HEAT warhead for the 88mm panzerschreck, had an armor penetration ability of over 100mm of RHA at all effective ranges. That warhead, fired from a low pressure gun like the PAW 600 mounted on a light tank would have been a useful system.

[@LeadHeadBOD]

Ironically, they did consider it. Information is very scant because a lot of the documentation was destroyed, but some WaPrüf 6 transcripts seem to indicate the Germans were evaluating whether the future of anti-tank warfare will be dominated by HEAT or super high velocity kinetic penetrators. That same discussion took place all throughout the cold war for all major powers. The real problem was most likely logistical rather than technical - they were even considering 8.8cm and 10.5cm HEAT shells with sub-caliber projectiles to retain muzzle velocity and other interesting solutions, but realistically, who was going to produce any of it in mass in 1945?

[@jackmoorehead2036]

It is just the last example of the German Armys need to bolt anti aircraft guns and anti tank guns on any vehicle available from 1941 onward. They never had Air superiority or enough tanks after September of 41and thus the flood of Erstaz gun mounts on every vehicle they could find.

[@JeanLucCaptain]

the worst part is the crew even if they fled which given the "intact" nature of the vehicle seems likely they may have run into some SS flying courtsmarshall and been executed on the spot before the Red army ever got a crack at them. I;ve seen pictures of that battle and they have the corpses of "deserters" strung up form almost every lamp-pole and support beam. and most of them are not even soldiers but "vulksturm"

[@jakerulesgaming1124]

Gaijin maybe?

[@rafalt.8998]

Desprate times. Desprate measures.

[@iivin4233]

I have a feeling you called the panzer 1 inferior the FT based on the caliber of the FT's gun alone. I think this is an incredibly narrow and contextless comparison.

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

"When it was first introduced, the Panzer I fielded an almighty arsenal of… two MG 13 7.92mm (0.3 inch) machine guns. This was significantly inferior to even the Renault FT, a tank introduced in 1917" This is what we said. We compared only the armaments, not the tanks as a whole.

[@slimrummy4616]

Just used as a mobile at gun in the defense of the city it makes sense... Shoot and scoot ... I still wouldn't wanna be assigned to be apart of that crew

[@31oannamphong66]

Most wouldn’t want to be assigned to defend a strategic point in a losing war anyway

[@tsclly2377]

would have been faster more utilitarian if that PaK 40 was mounted on a wheeled or tracked sled with retractable out riggers that could have been winched in (even manually) as the unit would have been just as mobile and could have been moved at almost a moment's notice.. ( winch coupled to a extending tow tough could have raised the stabilizers enough to go).. Ukraine is having the same types of problems.. loosing automotive units due to the insistence of consolidation vs. general utility.. Wagons are cheaper than trucks...

[@MrReymoclif714]

I own a WaffenSS folding paratroopers knife. It has solingen on the blade hilt.

[@Ralphieboy]

The Panzer I also mounted a Czech 47mm AT as well as a 150mm howitzer

[@akriegguardsman]

Gaijin plz br 2.3 tech tree

[@keithbosch37]

It looks like a decoy / scarecrow.

[@MrReymoclif714]

Favorable position??? Middle of Berlin with Soviets(very angry)running over everything.

[@alowishusdavander7804]

the gun is still in the travel yoke FFS ... it didnt do any fighting!!

[@jarnofalck]

I hopea u start to be more accure. Panzer I cant have gun becose WW I peace pack. It was planned that other mg 13 can be changed on same 20mm gun what was on Panzer II. It was use on blitzkrieg on start of war. After that is serve on other vechile hulls and training on Panzer tactics.

[@somethingtoputonpizza6667]

I always thought the Panzer 1 was used for Guarding and Patrolling captured areas not just trainings seems I was way off

[@chuckhaggard1584]

They were used for combat in Poland and France

[@voidgeometry794]

RATS! RATS! RATS~

[@m.k_a.m1609]

Chi-ha LG ver.german

[@benjaminheigl7822]

First time in spain

[@Wolfe_Blue]

Hello (first)

[@comentedonakeyboard]

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[@JoeDiGiovanniIV]

Second

[@comentedonakeyboard]

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[@dennishouston8714]

'Promosm' 👇

[@oldschoolfeeling3886]

This video is so full of mistakes that it's not even worth listing them one by one! The Panzer 1 was already used in the Spanish Civil War. It was sufficiently motorized for 5.8t and was nicknamed "Krupp-Sport".

[@rubberwoody]

where in the video does it say anything of the contrary?

[@Jezza_One]

Stop liking to these stupid games like WOT.

[@koenvandam1281]

Talks about panzer 1 and 4, whows skoda 38t and a ww1 tank.... 😂 joke

[@klauskistner8730]

Die rechte Kette fehlt , die Kanone ist noch befestigt , diese ist wohl dort nicht abgefeuert worden ! Im Endkampf um Berlin wurde, denke ich , alles eingesetzt was vorhanden war, auch "Prototypen" !