Rejecting Denominations! | Bob | Speakers Corner

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[@zakirdonk5028]

Dear God, bless and anointing Bob and other brothers who are actively preaching in SC. Also blessing the channels that broadcast them so that we in the other hemisphere can also learn and be strengthened.

[@jamalkhan3708]

Bob is an inspiration, thank God we have Bob at the park. God bless Bob✊❤️

[@gregwilliams2928]

I want to to thank u guys at SOCO Films for standing up for the faith and pushing real love because love doesn't look like that 1960s hippy stuff Real love gets dirty and if u look at our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ it gets bloody from time to time I don't mean to sound violent because I try not to be but it's about time love and truth are heard thank you Bob and everybody at SOCO for spreading the word of God

[@starahimna535]

Never have I heard Bob say you must be born again.

[@ivanpetrov6662]

i love bob , he opened a space for dialogue n debate in his own way.

[@leelifeson9150]

Great to hear the truth about evangelism thanks Bob

[@patrickambler749]

Amen brother Bob. Christ is the head and we are the body. One head and one body. United under one banner; His banner over me is Love. God is love. God bless you brother (do you read these?) keep up the fight, you are an encouragement. John 17.20-21 20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

[@denisSwe]

i like bobs vision of what the church should be like

[@tcaxy7304]

The Irony is that Bob wouldn't have a bible if it were not for the Catholic church not to mention that everytime he quotes a church father he is quoting a Catholic.

[@justjoe4260]

@@tcaxy7304 RUBBISH

[@crapgame11]

Bob...I wholeheartedly agree with you I feel that (as a catholic) the mass is structured in such a way that we read Gospel passages and then the Priest explains the meaning and how it pertains to modern life etc etc. I think that Priests assume that the congregation have all the fundamental basics of why we believe what we believe. But I will be honest we don't, we do not have armoury to counter challenge muslims and atheists who pick holes in our fragile beliefs. I think that leads to people leaving the faith because they think "ye you've got a point there" mainly because we have never been taught basic apologetics. We are missing something big and we need to get back to basics again...

[@sheilatuano9633]

Kenny McGuire. Yes, we should strengthen the Church Militants and empower them to practice their faith and not just be cultural Catholic Christians. Being a practicing Catholic can be very difficult in a very permissive modern society...for example the Catholic stance on not engaging in premarital sex before marriage, being against euthanasia has been drowned by the wider society that tends to lend more on liberal views.

[@armourofgod6310]

and that my friend is done on purpose

[@dennis6442]

Were the Dawah team there ? ... They must be Gremlins, that do not wished to be touched by water ;) All the same, It was nice to actually be able to hear the discusion with no distraction. Thank God for the rain at Speakers Corner on this day. That was classic ... Bob offers his umbrella to the older gentleman, and was instantly offered an unused umbrella from a bystander .. and "God Provides" ... beautiful. I would prefer to call it Karma.

[@Ephesians-rz7zp]

Amen Brother!!!

[@dongadon8697]

Bob for prime minister

[@OnlineWipe]

el_gibor - Bob is far too politically inept to become prime minister - as I politely pointed out to him.

[@borneandayak6725]

I'm Indonesian Catholic. Catholic do evangelization through charity and the Catholic Church was the LARGEST charitable organization in the world. Before Vatican II, we used to be a very conservative Church, after Vatican II, the Church become so liberal, thats why we do very little in "Kerygmatic Evangelization". I hope, the spirit of Evangelization will rise again in Catholicism, since Catholic was the most influental and biggest Church on earth, with 1.3 bilion followers.

[@albertg63]

Charity does not save people!

[@nononsense8947]

@@albertg63 what does then?

[@albertg63]

@@nononsense8947 Romans 10:14 How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not HEARD? And how will they hear WITHOUT A PREACHER? Romans 10:17 So faith comes from HEARING, and hearing by the WORD OF GOD. that's how we spread the good news and people get saved! We go out into all the world and preach the gospel. There is nothing more important.

[@nononsense8947]

@@albertg63 those verses are talking about faith. Faith born bcoz the word of God delivered to us by the preachers But that guy comment is answering why there are no catholics in the park. And the answer is maybe they are too busy to do some charity. Charity can save souls. So the poor can live till tomorow to hear the word of god. And you denied it. For me i'd rather do some charity than debating in the park for hours Bcoz for me, Why would i debate? What is that for? Faith isn't something to debate.

[@albertg63]

@@nononsense8947 No the gospel saves souls! Man can not leave on bread alone! John 4 13 Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life. It's all good and well helping and feeding people and doing charity but it's irrelevant if they don't hear the gospel! This life is just 1 stop on a bus journey, the destination is heaven of hell and if you die in your sins you will go to hell! So the gospel is the most important! No theologian would disagree. Charity is important the most important thing and the only way people get saved is by heading the gospel and reading the word of God. The bible is clear on that.

[@TheSanthoshooty77]

I am a Chatolic ( I will be a Chatolic) from india and Bob is exactly right.

[@TheSanthoshooty77]

@Dont Worry Yes I agree. God bless.

[@TheSanthoshooty77]

@Andrew Jacob Universal, as one.

[@TheSanthoshooty77]

@Andrew Jacob So you will Identify only from the words in Bible? Hmmmm .... Strange! Tell me what is the meaning of Bible?

[@TheSanthoshooty77]

@Andrew Jacob And tell me where is the word Bible in the Bible? In your logic we can name the "Record Books of God's work and words" can be named from the same Book.

[@darsom2717]

+Andrew Jacob The word "catholic" actually means "universal" right enough, but we aren't talking about catholic here, we're talking about ROMAN catholic, and that is something entirely different!

[@pandemonium4032]

"Europe and the Faith" by Hilaire Belloc is what Bob is talking about, & "City of God" by St. Augustine is what the Home schooling father is talking about.

[@bartconnolly6104]

@ 8:51 I disagree with Bob It was not in constantines time but much earlier that the Church had Bishops. Deacons and "Episcopos"= Bishops are mentioned in the Earliest scriptures. They were there since the first century! The ordination rituals are mentioned and the laying on of hands. It isnt a Constantine formula!

[@eDENjoetree]

He’s completely incorrect there.

[@selahstrong1027]

Bob destroyed all the denominations and their rituals when he pointed out to George, the Greek Orthodox, that baptism is not necessary for salvation (neither is holy communion) or anything else but belief in Lord Jesus Christ. As Bob said Jesus answered the thief on the cross that today he would be with him in paradise. The thief on the cross was not baptized nor had he holy communion, but he asked that Jesus remember him when he came into his kingdom. That was enough.

[@shaunguite5254]

It's always good to see Bob.

[@latexcitizenx]

So, influence UKIP! Evangelise the party while it remains small. Perhaps a window of opportunity has passed, but we must look to what we can salvage as much as create new. I would love to hear more of Bob's views of Protestantism and the reformation. I'm from Glasgow and know only too well that many protestants are more protestant than Christian, and can become too tribal and precious of "their" church and harshly criticise, proudly judge and persecute others and sectarianism becomes a problem. However, I have no problem with sectarianism if sects retain some humility , respect one another's secular differences, property and kinship, remain willing to engage on spiritual matters and co-operate in loving acts of kindness and spreading the gospel when agreement makes possible. We are human, simple and awkward, unlikely to agree on all things spiritual or secular. Therefore, the perpetuation of civil debate is essential if we are to unite in quest for truth. While we must unite as brothers in Christian fellowship, the organisation and semantic connotations people understand of "one true church" inevitably tempts secular rather than spiritual authoritarianism. I suggest the most damaging substitution of true faith in society has been the sanctification of democracy. The UK was designed to be a limited monarchy, a settled, yet perpetually negotiable balance between secular freedoms and spiritual obedience, after obsession and abuse of both brought disharmony. It established a nation, wherein debate was facilitated, authority respected and spiritual purpose clear under a banner of 3 Christian martyrs. The balance has tipped too far to the secular once more, where ambitions for power and authority have overtaken contentment in the freedom to protest. We are slowly turning into a "peoples republic" rather than the Protestant Christian Limited Monarchy which has given us so much ability to do good in the world. GOD save our GRACIOUS Queen!

[@eddiejcarmichael]

Silly comment but I noticed that the muslim team were nowhere to be seen? The quality of debate was polite and reasoned. Really really sorry. I am assuming that the Muslims are not that concerned about their religion that English rain keeps them at home.

[@user-si7ig6ul7l]

We should pray for more rain lol

[@saoud_alahbabi]

That’s simply not true, go to (Sam Dawah) channel you’ll see brother Mansur debating at the same day.

[@akmalkhan5251]

Bob the best💪👊👌😍

[@wagracey]

Well Bob let hear what you have to say on the doctrine of trasustantiation and the putting to death of bible believing christian who did not believe in the ability of catholic priests to tranform the emblems into the litral body and blood of our saviour Jesus Christ. Most priests are not even bible believers,50 years in the church of Rome by charles Chiniquy . Near to God far from Rome by Richard Bennett Who was a a jesuit Priest for 25 years. This book give the account of 50 priest who testify of their conversion. ( I believe you have a copy of this book) Richard Bennett has a wed site call " The Berean beacon" . Many subject with what the Bible teachers and how the catholic church misinterprets the Bible to endorse its own doctrine. Can be found on this site On a postive note Bob your work at SC is very inspiring, You have step into the Loins den, it would (will) be interesting to see how God moulds you over the years to come.

[@nabeelyounis7949]

wagracey And how about "Rome sweet home "by Protestant theologian Scott Hahn "Surprised by truth by Patrick Madrid where he provided the testimonies of Top notch protestant scholars who converted to the fullness of the Christian faith and how about "Born fundamentalist born again Catholic by ex protestant historian and how about "Evenglical exodus to the catholic church "by ex biola professor? I can give you the names of the 100 dozen scholars who were once protestant but later became Catholic Christians.

[@wagracey]

@@nabeelyounis7949 Berean Beacon Published on 24 Nov 2017 This Video reviews the moving testimonies of fifty priests who found their way, by the grace of God, out of the labyrinth of Roman Catholic theology and practice into the light of the gospel of Christ. This is not argumentative presentation. It is the message of loving care. The love and concern felt by the former priests for those they left behind, and their fervent desire that they too should experience the joy and peace of salvation in Christ is seen throughout. These are the former priest, Bob Bush, Dominic Stockford, Cuthbert Dzingirai, Joseph Tremblay, Charles Chiniquy, Bartholomew F. Brewer, Henry Gregory Adams, Alexander Carson, Hugh Farrell, Robert V. Julien, Charles Berry, Cipriano Valdes Jaimes, Miguel Carvajal, Victor J. Affonso, Anibal Pereira Dos Reis, Anthony Pezzotta, Simon Kottoor, Vincent O’Shaughnessy, Jose Borras, Edoardo Labanchi, J. Ernest Fresques, Francisco Lacueva, Juan T. Sanz, Nino Tirelli, Manuel Garrido Aldama, Robert Champagne, Hugh Farrell, Salvatore Gargiulo, Toon Vanhuysse, Roman Mazierski, Jose A. Fernandez, Joseph Cherucheril, Jose Rico, Jacob Van der Velden, Charles A. Bolton, John Preston, Luis Padrosa, Joseph Zacchello, Mariano Rughi, John Zanon, Thoufic Khouri, Joseph Lulich, Dario SantaMaria, JMA Hendrickesn, Leo Lehmann, Carlo Fumagali, Renalto di Lorenzo, Guido Scalzi, Bruno Bottesin, Richard Peter Bennett For more information and stories like this one, please, visit our site at bereanbeacon.org/former-pries... www.bereanbeacon.org

[@whathappening5323]

@PuraguCryostato ​ May be there was more going on in the 15th century then Martin Luther. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2nk62dbdSmhpI If these accounts are to believed then there is a problem. the Audio is just a small part of the account of atrocity committed in the name of GOD by the RCC. I for one would be running way even if 10% of these reports are True .

[@whathappening5323]

@PuraguCryostato Not all so call protestants are molded from the same garment or to your understanding of what you think they are. If you consider it an act of "LOVE" to murder those you don't agree with you then you and I are reading a different book.

[@whathappening5323]

@PuraguCryostato This History is irrefutable,( kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2nk62dbdSmhpI ) you can't demiss this evidence by it been different times. The bible tells us that a thousand years is as a day to GOD. That Happen in GOD day. So maybe history reflects the Issue. I am not sure what you believe in. But as A Christian I see this conduct as unchristian. As most of the first new testament Christian suffer similar fates at the hands of unbelievers. The question is how could so call believers be conducting themselves the same way as unbelievers using fear and intimidation to silence people that question their "DOCTRINE" You pointed out the faults of some of what is happing in protestant Churchs most of what you said I agree with there is more that you have not mention. So I have found a group that would not support most of those things you have outline. I am an Ex-Catholic with no regrets for Leaving the RCC 48 years ago. I don't believe a lot of what the RCC teaches, and John Fox adds ammunition to why I don't.

[@barbarahumph7784]

There we have it! Bob the builder rarely agrees with Protestants but he agrees mainly with Catholics. So for those true Protestant Evangelical Christians who listen to Bob be aware that his theology and biblical exposition will be biased towards Roman Catholicism which is not Biblical Christianity.

[@princebuster93]

Barbara Humph77 Amen sister, hits nail on head

[@barbarahumph7784]

@@princebuster93 Thanks. I'm glad you agree. He mentions John Calvin and Luther who both converted from Roman Catholicism becoming Protestant. Those great men saw the error and evil within the RC church. Bob's just an articulate Roman Catholic. I wonder if he's been born again? God bless

[@darsom2717]

+Barbara Humph77 I totally agree with you both here, however, God can use even the enemy for good, and his knowledge for exposing islam is great, I just don't think we have anything to learn from him, bless him!

[@TheMotownPhilly]

@@darsom2717 Bob is not the enemy of the faith. Although I dont agree 100% with him to call him an enemy is very short sighted. Does he not read directly from scripture? Does he not use the scripture to correct Muslims and others about the truth? He also speaks plainly about what he dislikes in the Catholic faith. Sorry but I see no enemy in Bob. God bless

[@darsom2717]

@@TheMotownPhilly All lies are the enemy, have no part in them is what we're told, that would happen to include the biggest liars, the roman catholic church!

[@bartconnolly6104]

@6:15 Bob makes an argument that I think Thomas Aquinas ( one of the great Doctors of the Church) made i.e. that one does not need to be a doctor of the church or an academic to understand and have faith. He even proposes an argument showing this idea to be false because not all people have the intelligence education or time to study philosophy and theology in depth that means if it were true only a few could become faithful and Holy. But anyone can become Christian.

[@itsonlymythirddayouthere]

Jesus never promoted any one denomination. It just promoted division. The true church are those who follow Jesus Christ!

[@nabeelyounis7949]

Sheneika X You are partly right but wrong at a same time.

[@kokosijajuha3817]

What alarms me is all these Christians can’t recognise that Charlamagne Bob is carnal he is very religious but being spiritual he is definitely not born again.

[@FM.05.05.]

I am a Roman Catholic, I do agree with many points bob is bringing up about how the Church has to change. He said “show me a verse in the Bible to what denomination to follow and I’ll follow it”, although there is no such thing, there IS clear evidence of no division within the Bible l, we had enough division before protestants and now days we have a bigger issue. The Catholic Church needs to reform but from within and not rupturing it. A good Christian knows by hear that division is never a good thing.

[@FM.05.05.]

PuraguCryostato you must hate the Church of Christ that bad, I give you LC 10,16.

[@chrisbedro7623]

The truth is hurt,but it set you free,say it brother Bob.

[@shaunstevens4544]

The moment the church enters politics it no longer is a religion bob

[@D0csavage1]

@shaun stevens - Are you sure? *Rom 13:1-7: The Christian's Duty Toward the Civil Authority* _"1 Everyone is to obey the governing authorities, because there is no authority except from God and so whatever authorities exist have been appointed by God. 2 So anyone who disobeys an authority is rebelling against God's ordinance; and rebels must expect to receive the condemnation they deserve. 3 Magistrates bring fear not to those who do good, but to those who do evil. So if you want to live with no fear of authority, live honestly and you will have its approval; 4 it is there to serve God for you and for your good. But if you do what is wrong, then you may well be afraid; because it is not for nothing that the symbol of authority is the sword: it is there to serve God, too, as his avenger, to bring retribution to wrongdoers. 5 You must be obedient, therefore, not only because of this retribution, but also for conscience's sake. 6 And this is why you should pay taxes, too, because the authorities are all serving God as his agents, even while they are busily occupied with that particular task. 7 Pay to each one what is due to each: taxes to the one to whom tax is due, tolls (literal = tribute) to the one to whom tolls are due, respect to the one to whom respect is due, honour to the one to whom honour is due."_ John 19:11 - Jesus to Pilate: "You would have no power over me at all if it had not been given you from above..." *Proverbs **8:15**-16 "By me monarchs rule and princes decree what is right; by me rulers govern, so do nobles, the lawful authorities."* Wisdom 6:1-3 "Listen then, kings, and understand; rulers of remotest lands, take warning; hear this, you who govern great populations, taking pride in your hosts of subject nations! For sovereignty is given to you by the Lord and power by the Most High, who will himself probe your acts and scrutinise your intentions."

[@latexcitizenx]

I hear you bro. However this scripture is written before modern democracy. It is justification for the divine right of kings. I'm a monarchist. I believe in limited monarchy. But I suggest we have abused it. The balance is tipping too far. We have to wean ourselves off the sanctification of democracy. This cannot be done overnight. The UK must start with reinstatement of the hereditary peerage. The system of government in the UK is founded in Christian freedoms, responsibilities and obedience. We have to start looking not simply to what we might "change" but also what we should salvage.

[@latexcitizenx]

Monarchies exist and democracies fail. Kings/queens inherit their position, you can argue it is by divine choice or pure chance, but what it removes is the ambition for the power. Ambition corrupts. A monarch may abdicate. A bad monarch will lose power. I'm not looking to the past I'm looking at the present and how we might proceed. I'm not suggesting abolition of democracy nor am I advocating absolute monarchy. I suggest both have value.

[@latexcitizenx]

Yes a bad Monarch may be deposed by force. But may be civilly persuaded to delegate and devolve the authority he has. Our Monarchy was established by majority support, appointed under parliamentary conditions and has lost power through the force of democracy. Now the sanctification of democracy has split the nation in two. People are at each others throats over Brexit, taking to the streets in anger and vandalising property. One side demands democracy is righteous the other asserts it has been corrupted and cheats. There is no perfection and democracy certainly does not always deliver righteous decision. As I say I'm pro democracy i think it is essential to a stable contented society. But we should not sanctify it, perceive it flawless. The culture drives the democratic will of the people. If it's your problem ... democracy is not going to help ya.

[@anaphora1890]

"There are an infinity of angles at which one falls, only one at which one stands. To have fallen into any one of the fads from Gnosticism to Christian Science would indeed have been obvious and tame. But to have avoided them all has been one whirling adventure; and in my vision the heavenly chariot flies thundering through the ages, the dull heresies sprawling and prostrate, the wild truth reeling but erect." (the great chesterton on 'the thrilling romance' of orthodoxie (in the wordly sense) /dogma.

[@UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN]

you are wrong bob in the Philippines we have a speakers Corner much older than you speakers Corner we have many Catholics here dialoguing with other denomination maybe in britain there are few Catholics engaging in Debates

[@goannacs6861]

Actually it's more the roman Catholic church. And Europe relys on them. I can imagine really well, that Catholics outside of Europe are on a different level.

[@19jolien91]

AMEN!

[@therighteousrighthand]

Its so true. The Cathoic church sent missionaries far and wide to make Jesus Christ known. But these days we have become ritualistic. Hopefully various denominations work as various members of the same body.

[@ALL4JESUSCHRIST]

Bob is very wrong on many issues, and correct on a few issues. I will do my best to briefly critique his comments while being fair and unbiased in my criticism. *The Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches* First, the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches are far from Christian, I say this about the organizations and not the individual. Both organizations teach works salvation and have thus separated themselves from Christ (Galatians 1:8; 2 Corinthians 11:3-4; Galatians 5:4-5 NASB). *But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! (Galatians 1:8 NASB).* *But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully. (2 Corinthians 11:3-4 NASB).* *You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit, by faith, are waiting for the hope of righteousness. (Galatians 5:4-5 NASB).* *The Bible and Church Authority* Bob says the Catholic and Orthodox are mostly right and the Protestant Christians a [few] times...I see a little bias in his remarks (3:55 - 4:05). So who is right and how can we determine authority in the Church? The Christian Gospel of Jesus Christ and the apostles is recorded in the Bible, there is no secret book of traditions, nor does the early Christians, who are often falsely called Church fathers (See Matthew 23:9) have any additional authority over Christians or within the Church of Jesus Christ. The early Christians were like us, seeking to follow the Lord faithfully and relying on the recorded word of God, the Bible, as they had it available to read in their communities. This was inevitable as the Apostles died, the Bible had to become our final arbiter of God's authority in regards to spiritual and moral guidance. Early writings of Christians can help give historical significance to the development of Christian doctrines, but the final authority on such issues is the Bible and Holy Spirit. *Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth. (John **17:17** NASB).* *All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy **3:16**-17 NASB).* The NT was a collection of first-century writings that eventually became the canon of Scripture. Rome did not give us the Bible, and neither did the Orthodox Church, these are falsely claimed by many Romanist. The Bible comes by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, as the apostles and disciples in the first century were inspired to write. Ultimately this recorded word of God was dispersed widely among the Christian communities and at no point was it isolated to Rome or any other group. Eventually, broad acceptance of the current 27-books of the New Testament, with some disagreements on about 4 of the books, led to a conference known as the Synod of Hippo 393AD, which was later ratified at the Council of Carthage 397AD. It's important to realize that the NT Bible is the only record of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, as it was relayed to us by the apostles and his disciples, and thus it alone has remained our final and ultimate authority on matters of faith and morality for nearly two thousand years. *Church and State* Bob suggests we need a Christian political structure to change society (17:20). The Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches tried to infuse state and religion during the 600AD and onward, but it was a massive failure. The abuse of power and murder of millions, including many Christians, which started in about 600AD and continued throughout the dark ages with the inquisitions of Spain and France, the killing and persecution of Jews and religious dissenters. The Russian Orthodox Church also infused state and church, which persecuted all non-orthodox Christian groups, like the forced conversions of Roman Catholics in Eastern Europe, etc. History does not agree with Bob. *Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.” (John **18:36** NASB).* We are not called to transform the world through government power, but by sharing the Good News with this lost and dying world. Jesus commanded us to go into the world and preach reconciliation with God, which comes by [faith] in Jesus Christ. *Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. (2 Corinthians **5:20**-21 NASB).* *Conclusion* The Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches have a veneer of Christianity but reject the central teachings of Jesus Christ and His Gospel. Salvation according to Rome is a process of works in relation to the sacraments administered by its priest, as they serve under the authority of the Pope. No evidence can be given to confirm the Pope has this divine authority. Usually, Romanist will quote Matthew 16 and suggest Peter was the first Romanist Pope, which Jesus gives the keys of authority to, but this same authority was given to all the apostles in Matthew 18. And there is no evidence that Peter was the leader of the early Church, much less, that this authority was centered in Rome under the pagan title of Pope. The first Christian council was in Jerusalem (Acts 15), and it was headed by James, not Peter. The early Christians never knew, much less observed, many of the heretical teachings Rome declared is needed for salvation. Just a few of Rome's false doctrines are listed below, I included the approximate dates they officially began. It's important to remember the early Christians didn't follow any of these doctrines, and they never submitted to a Pope or their priest: - Prayers to the dead (300AD). *Necromancy which is forbidden on the Bible! (Deuteronomy **18:10**-12).* - Veneration of the Roman Mary (431AD). *Worship of someone other than God, which is forbidden in the Bible!* - Latin used in worship (600AD). *Man-made rule, not found in the Bible but strictly enforced. Many were murdered for quoting or writing the Bible in their native language...absolute evil!* - Prayers directed to the Roman Mary (600AD). *Jesus said to ask in His name and taught us to pray to the Father. He never gave Mary any authority in the Church!* - Veneration of relics and crosses (788 AD). *Idolatry and heresy, attributing forgiveness of sins or power to objects is idolatry, because only Jesus is our Savior.* - Celibacy of the priest (1079AD). *Has led to many of the abuses of children throughout the centuries and rejects God's command, not to forbid people from marriage (1 Timothy 4:1-3).* - Rosary (1090AD). *Pagan act that teaches Catholics to say ritualistic prayers, which Jesus forbid us from doing (Matthew 6:7).* - Sale of indulgences. *Heretical and without Biblical authority, its actually an act of greed, which the Bible declares is idolatry! (Colossians 3:5).* -Mass (394AD), Transubstantiation (1215AD), The Seven Sacraments (1439AD), Apocrypha canonized (1545AD) Papal Infallibility (1870AD), Immaculate Conception of Mary (1845)...Etc, etc., etc. All of the above doctrines are heretical in nature and deny the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Clearly, anyone can see that Rome and the Eastern Orthodox Churches are teaching a different Gospel, and because of this, they have separated themselves from Christ Jesus. So we can not call those organizations Christian, just like the liberal Protestant Churches that have embraced many heretical doctrines and the depravity of the world. The Apostle Paul said to those Jews that taught works that they were false converts and separated from Christ. We likewise cannot add any works to the perfect and completed work of Jesus Christ. If we add any works to our salvation, we are in fact saying, Jesus atonement was insufficient, so he really died needlessly. No, we are saved by God's grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus Christ alone! I would love to address the "once saved always saved" question that was raised (5:12). Time does not allow for this right now, but let me just say, if our salvation can be lost than Christ died needlessly! If our salvation depends on personal works, rather than the gift of God, Christ died needlessly! Please read the Books of Romans, Galatians, and Colossians all of which refutes any teaching of works salvation and confirms our eternal security in Christ Jesus. Blessings. †

[@User_Happy35]

I have a question re "once saved always saved" doctrine. I just saw a youtube video of a woman saying sge deconverted from Christianity. She says she was a born again Christian but later decided she didn't believe in the Lord (in essence). Are you saying she's still saved?

[@halcyon289]

Finally ...a comment that tells it like it is.

[@ALL4JESUSCHRIST]

@@User_Happy35 - Sorry for the late reply, I never received a notification of your message. John, the Apostle, addresses this issue in 1 John 2:19. "They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us." - 1 John 2:19, NASB. Many say they were once a Christian, but now claim they're not. The Bible is clear that if someone is claiming they were a Christian, but now state they no longer believe in Christ...they were never really a Christian in the first place. Blessings. †

[@justjoe4260]

@@User_Happy35 she was never saved

[@malungtvnews]

I'm an othodox I like to suffer! Love it! Hardcore rain debate

[@finlcll9195]

Can anyone tell me was there any denomination at the time of Christ???..No.....Was Jesus sounds like Catholic like approving homosexuality, appproving gays for priests , lying to Christians, No evangelising??.......No ........Jesus was not Catholic nor any other sect.....But the fact is that Jesus preached to Gentiles, Jesus openly criticized what was good or what was bad..So plzzz Be the follower of Yeshua.

[@Ohh-Johnny-boy]

Al-Masiheen Ex-Muslim he was and is The King of The Jews, The Lion of The Tribe of Judah the first believers were Jews ie today they would be called Messianic Jews.

[@borneandayak6725]

Definitly Catholic, the first Pope was Peter the Apostle...

[@princebuster93]

1511 Equator please be aware that the bible says, the body of christ are called the church, the believers. So the believers body is the temple. The bible calls the catholic. Church, the harlot, the whore of babylon, please read the book of Revelation

[@sabinoleerentveld7621]

yeah, and he was married, like all popes, oh wait,...

[@denisSwe]

can any one tell me what you need to do to prove to someone that you are a christian?

[@donotcompromise]

When Jesus saves someone they are saved. The Bible doesn’t teach that a real born again believer can lose his salvation. Saying a sinners prayer and after you continue in your sin is proof it wasn’t real. If you end up in hell its because Jesus NEVER KNEW you.

[@darsom2717]

+donotcomprimise Amen brother/sister, plain ad simple truth you speak there.

[@sirrahyocib1380]

Big Brother Bob you my man..

[@bartconnolly6104]

@9:21 Bob does go on to clarify some of the earlier points I critiqued but a Catholic explanation suggests that the delegates were bishops in the actual sense of the term but that they neither possessed fixed sees nor had a special title. Since they were essentially itinerant, they confided the fixed necessary functions relating to the daily life of the community to the care of some of the better-educated and highly respected converts. So while I accept Bishops may not have held temporal power , lands and offices they still existed as spiritual leaders. So Bob is correct to the extent that "Bishop" originally meant spiritual leader and not a political or temporal one. But this is what the Catholic church would claim is the most important element of a Bishop - his Ordinary power to ordain priests and other bishops. Not his worldly power.

[@supermaniswatchingyou9572]

Bob the light

[@peaceloveshalom830]

Very good discussion .... and Bob is absolutely right about the Catholic faith .... and about most Catholics knowing nothing much about their faith because of the poor quality of sermons they hear, week after week .... It's so sad to mention here, that the majority of Catholics know nothing about their faith and the bible .... very few of them can't even name the first five books of the bible .... or the last book of the bible ..... they cannot even name five prophets of the old testament ..... it's a very sad state of the church because of what the so-called shepherds of the church have done ..... It's beyond my understanding how Catholics still darken the doors of all their dead churches .... just by sitting on a pew for abt 45 mins. doesn't make you a Christian or doing the real will of God .... for the record, I'm from a Catholic background ..... but I moved away from the church long time back because of the state of the Catholic church .... I still love the Mass and I do miss the Eucharistic celebration, but totally detest all the idolatry that is a big demonic part of the Catholic church.

[@idomalion6167]

I was catholic for 30 years and left, now im a Bible followingChristian. Praying to mary and the saints is a sin. Catholics have been blinded. To follow Christ is to read and understand the New Testament . Orthodox Churches break the commandments on idol worship Read Exodus 20 and if your church breaks the10 commandments then change. Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

[@whatisthetruth.8793]

Seel the truth again call Catholic answer my brother there is many verses in the bible.

[@idomalion6167]

Rashad Didier its not only Catholics but many Churches need to stick with just Biblical principles

[@idomalion6167]

Andrew Jacob for the same reason muslims and Jews are blind. They are overawed by the ceremonial rituals of worship and lacking the foundation of doctrine. They dont read the Bible enough or understand its teachings. Its paganism and rituals appeal to pagans. My Christian rituals are Bible reading and evangelism. Yes many are afflicted with familiar spirits and thats why catholics have a whole department dealing with exorcism John 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.

[@RobinHood-iw5vl]

The ante nicene Church Fathers when they have a consensus on any given doctrine should be our primary commentaries , and they clearly show that they are essentially Catholic, on communion, baptism and salvation. Regarding statues and various devotiinal practices, they are not binding on the faithful at all. Sadly denominationalism has produced a constantly ever dividing and multiplying contradictory theologies. Jesus established one Church, the pillar and foundation of truth.

[@yuvanwinanda2210]

I don't think you were ever a Catholic eventhough you went to a Catholic Church.

[@jimmybedding3611]

There are 40,000 or do denominations - all Pick and mix what doctrines they believe - and there will be more - as the Church never agrees across the board - who’s right ? God knows ‘

[@bookshelflearn9352]

He just described in a political doctrine and narrative the Catholic Church

[@speakerscornerbestbits]

Bob, Jesus tells us that we must become like children to enter the Kingdom of Heaven (Matt 18:3) so to find fault with those who know 'nothing' about their faith is a little harsh (time 11:43 in the video). I'm sure you would agree that it takes a lot of time and study to get where you are with your understanding of Christianity but not everyone will have the skills and ability necessary to get to that place. So I would say Blessed are those that have a simple and innocent faith but for those who have the ability to challenge (such as yourself) they should continue to use that gift as a Blessing (cf Luke 12:48 - to whom much is given, much will be required).

[@nicolas9533]

Bob, if you think you can loose salvation by enough disobedience, then , you think you have to earn it with enough obedience. It leads directly to salvation by works -> you are saving yourself -> you don't recognize Jesus as your savior You are saved by grace, it's not from you it's from God. If you think you have to earn it somehow, then you don't accept it as a free gift like God is asking. It's very dangerous because, you may be saved, and with this doctrine plant seeds which lead people away from salvation by grace. -> IF YOU THINK YOU CAN LOSE IT, IT MEANS YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO EARN IT. Like a glass half full and a glass half empty describes the same glass with the same water. - Ephesians 4:30 "Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption." Neither you not Satan can unseal a godly seal ... a seal is a lid, a lid put there by God : or are you saying you or Satan are stronger than God ? If you can unseal God's seal then God lied there. Often people mix up what you have to do to earn rewards in the kingdom of God with what you have to do to be saved.

[@halcyon289]

Absolutely one hundred percent correct Nicolas.

[@The_Buster01]

I respect Bob a lot but the issue with Christians is that we point our fingers on each other because we have different denominations... We forgot that we follow the same Bible, the same God.....

[@gardeneden5777]

*How many Christain Religion are there? *are protestants believe in Jesus Christ is the only saviour? Your comment In a reply please.

[@kutu3029]

the catholic church is the original church of Christ, it says in bible Peter woud lead the church, he was first Pope.

[@justjoe4260]

your SIN has you bound

[@SohoNights]

Ancient Faith Radio Podcasts is a great resourse for learning!

[@nobletravistn]

Bobs got me ready to go on crusade haha. But seriously he is very inspiring.

[@moneytttt1140]

Amen

[@bryanveliz2142]

One thing about Protestants U CANNOT GROUP THEM AS A WHOLE. Not all churches are the same. This is a good thing and a bad thing. U can find Protestant churches with sound doctrine that aligns with the Bible meanwhile Catholics see them selves as all the same .

[@Speakers154]

I get what Bob means by treating the sacraments "in a consumerist way" (my words) but receiving the Eucharist ought to be a Christian's identity, because it is the summit of a Christian's worship. It is entering into communion with the Lord and Saviour. There is no Church without that communion with Christ. There is no Christianity without that "do this in memory of me." As a Christian you really are what you eat and drink: in communion, we become part of the Body of Christ and Christ becomes part of us. In baptism, we truly are transformed into members of Christ's community. The mistake is to think that the seven sacraments are enough. The sacraments really are seven reasons why a Christian ought to be missionary, not seven excuses why they shouldn't. 1. Baptism: because I have become a sharer in Christ's priesthood, kingship and prophethood, I ought to go out and evangelise the world around me. 2. Eucharist: Because Jesus lives in me, I need to share that joy and message with others. 3. Reconciliation: The Lord has forgiven me, I ought to share the liberation of Christ with others. 4. Confirmation: The Holy Spirit gives me the maturity to be about my Father's business, spreading the Good News. 5. Holy Orders: The mission of evangelisation is part and parcel of acting "in persona Christi". 6. Marriage: the grace of marriage allows a couple to create Christian communities in the world and a clear sign of God's love 7. Last Rites: For God to the end, what can be more evangelical? Into your hands, Lord, I commit my spirit.

[@albertg63]

Are the sacraments essential and nessasery to salvation ? That's the question.

[@svntijovan3357]

Spot on brother

[@jakerayapen345]

Lv u Bob

[@bartconnolly6104]

@ 4:33 As far as I remember the Catholic church claims there is ONE church and that is subsists in Rome. Yep, Subsistit in (Latin for subsists in) from Lumen Genitum Haec Ecclesia, in hoc mundo ut societas constituta et ordinata, subsistit in Ecclesia catholica, a successore Petri et Episcopis in eius communione gubernata, licet extra eius compaginem elementa plura sanctificationis et veritatis inveniantur, quae ut dona Ecclesiae Christi propria, ad unitatem catholicam impellunt. This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him, although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity. Lumen gentium does recognize that other Christian ecclesial communities have elements of sanctification and of truth. Sebastian Tromp, a Dutch Jesuit was the man behind the "subsisti in" phrase I think. On June 29, 2007, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, under the presidency of Cardinal William Levada, signed an official document called "Responses to Some Questions Regarding Certain Aspects of the Doctrine on the Church". It was published July 10, 2007 Benedict XVI, at an audience granted to the Cardinal Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, ratified and confirmed these responses, adopted in the Plenary Session of the Congregation, and ordered their publication. whiuch says "It is possible, according to Catholic doctrine, to affirm correctly that the Church of Christ is present and operative in the churches and ecclesial communities not yet fully in communion with the Catholic Church, on account of the elements of sanctification and truth that are present in them. Nevertheless, the word "subsists" can only be attributed to the Catholic Church alone precisely because it refers to the mark of unity that we profess in the symbols of the faith (I believe… in the "one" Church); and this "one" Church subsists in the Catholic Church."

[@nabeelyounis7949]

Roman Catholic Church is the purest form of the Christian religion in fact the fullness of the Christian religion. The doctrines of the Catholic Church are sound, there are whole bunch of prophecies in the Bible proving the fact that it is Almighty Lord himself who laid the foundation of the Catholic Church.I really suggest everyone of you to read a book "Surprised by truth by Patrick Madrid "where the top notch protestant theologian and historians have provided their testimonies for their conversion to the Catholic Church. Another best book is "Rome sweet home "written by protestant scholar who converted to the fullness of Christianity Dr Scott Hahn.

[@princebuster93]

nabeel gill So sorry you are brainwashed, the BIBLE is the word of God and the only book we need to read to know and understand Salvation, that Jesus Christ + nothing = salvation. The catholic church is described in the book of Revelation as the Whore of Babylon. The Catholic church murdered many Christians who refused to bow down to Rome's false doctrine for control purposes. Read the Foxes book of martyrs which describes how many Christians were burnt alive at the stake for their testimony of Jesus Christ. The catholic churches god is Lucifer not Jesus Christ. Why did Pope Francis say " Jesus Christ life ended in failure " and " a relationship with Jesus is dangerous " this man is Anti Christ, I pray the Lord Jesus open your heart to the truth.

[@nabeelyounis7949]

JESUS verses the world The Bible is the Word of God, the Catholic Church canonized the books of Bible and preserve them down though the ages not like Protestants who butchered the books of the Bible and twist it to their own destruction.

[@darsom2717]

+Jesus verses the world Such a shame on these poor deceived souls, they are forever taking away from what our Lord Jesus did on the cross, shame on them! God bless you for standing for the truth my brother in Christ.

[@darsom2717]

+nabeel gill I hope you realize, the books of the Holy Bible were already quoted in full by Irenaeus long before your roman church ever decided to invent their heresies! Or are you not that well educated on this matter?

[@nabeelyounis7949]

Darso M I hope that you realise that St Irenaeus was a Catholic saint he defended the Catholic Church, what you are doing is merely pitting the Catholic saint against the Catholic Church, he said about the Roman Catholic Church "The very great the very ancient and universally known Church founded and organized in Rome by two of the most glorious apostles,Peter and Paul"(St. Irenaeus, against Heresies 3.3.2)According to Methodist historian John Lawson:"The prestige of Rome is based upon the circumstances that her Church was founded by the two greatest apostles, i.e.it is connected with the nature of the message she has to declare:with her authority, in fact... the potentior principalities of the Roman Catholic Church is then, the possession in a unique and supreme degree of that which is the possession of the whole Church. (The Biblical theology of Irenaeus page 275)

[@goddessr3065]

I am a Catholic, Bob is right but partially, how many Catholic nuns, workers and misioaris serve in Africa, Asia, and other places where they are often work in dengerous conditions, they are working in war torn countries, They put thair life's in danger They work in hospitals, schools, orphanages. They work with homeless people. So we need to a knolidge this and be proud of them

[@jimmybedding3611]

Orthodox and Catholics seem to be more reverent - true - but they need a heart change - the evangelicals can be casual at times - HTB - had its biggest visitation 18 years ago. Most believers today are weak cause as the man said - they don’t read or study as much .

[@DGTL_MRKT]

Come on Soco. Just give me one take of Bob and you saying "Soco Over Everything!"

[@translinearlight6132]

If one believes in God, follows Christ - is he a Christian? Does one need to be baptized in order to be a Christian?

[@diongibbs312]

My Pastor Methodist ordained. My Church non Dom Evangelical. Denominations divide the family of Christ.

[@johnmc244]

Bob wow in the adverts the question was did muhammad believe in jesus and they made it look like he did..But not only that they made it look like mohammad was just like jesus..

[@Foc141]

What does bob thinks about Protestants

[@jimmybedding3611]

Thank God for an evangelical catholic who witnessed to me 27! Years ago - not a Baptist Pentecostal Methodist Chsrimstic in sight - there are some good people who are born again all these places .

[@jamesacooke32]

Western society is built on Greco Roman Christian culture. It’s what we are. It’s what we should fight for and be proud of! That doesn’t mean we should suppress all other religions. But it does mean we should DEFEND our heritage. We should be proud. We ended slavery, we connected the world. Remove our history and we become an empty vessel. We will collapse. I’m an atheist btw.

[@ReadRomans10]

jamesacooke32 The entire setup of the Vatican is to pay homage to Babylon. Hidden in plain site. The architecture of the Vatican proves it. MUST WATCH --> kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYLLiGysdtx2p68

[@darsom2717]

+Read Romans 10:9-14 On top of that, the roman church sold "indulgences" to fund the building of St Peter's basilica, the rich paid for some sure, but they could affords it without suffering financially, but so did the poor, I wonder who fared the worst from that deal, physically speaking, as all paid dearly spiritually, and I'm 100% sure that St Peter would NOT have agreed with telling men they could buy their way out of a non existent place between earth and Heaven called "purgatory"! Peace and blessing brother/sister.

[@darsom2717]

+Read Romans 10: 9-14 Thanks for the link btw, I'm going to watch it right now 30/08 at 17:50

[@darsom2717]

+Read Romans 10: 9-14 Hey mate, pretty good video indeed, good exposure of this heresy. Here is one might interest you, it's a guy called Walter Veith, he's an SDA, so I wouldn't take any teaching from him, but the things he exposes here are good, and it can all be checked out for yourself, he gives lots of sources/references: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ3HlKCJlpyZqZo

[@ReadRomans10]

Darso M thank you brother, I'm familiar with Walter Veith's work, I Eat the meat and spit out the bones with his work as I don't subscribe to his SDA. Thanks again and did you see videos exposing Vatican Audience Hall as a massive serpent head inside & out?. Plenty of videos out there on it. Pls take a look at my folders Babylon rising 2 and browse through titles, you might see something to aide you in research. Blessings and shalom my friend.

[@stlouisix3]

The Traditional Catholic Church is the one true Church, outside of which absolutely no-one can be saved!!

[@stlouisix3]

Do ya reject the Vatican II false council, my bruvva?

[@borneandayak6725]

Vatican II make Catholic so weak and so liberal...

[@stlouisix3]

Vatican II led to many Catholics apostatising from the Catholic faith.

[@stlouisix3]

Nay, my friend; now is time for us to pray all 15 decades of the Holy Rosary daily (this excludes the so-called "Luminous mysteries" of Anti-pope JPII) and pray the Hail Mary as often as possible. Learn the Holy Rosary in Latin, it shouldn't take up much of your time. The gifts that you will receive from doing so are immeasurable. Praying 15 decades of the Holy Rosary daily will rid you of all sorts of addictions you have and temptations you fall into.

[@itsonlymythirddayouthere]

St. Louis IX - True Christianity isn’t full of rituals and religion like Catholicism

[@bahookee9502]

The church like the trinity is corporate we the people are the church and we are to live our lives every day as the church and then come together collectively under the banner of the church on the first day of the week

[@albertg63]

Catholics and orthodox churches need to read (Ephisans 2:6-8) and (Exodus 20:4).

[@rajapaus566]

atention!!!! Jesus Caming in Bob self ....atention atention ...Bob God bless you....you are the best..we are indonesian ..verry proud of you ....

[@jimmybedding3611]

God don’t care what label you call yourself - I agree Bob - these issues are debatable - and there are many - tithing one saved always saved tongues baptism - etc - there are a lot of know all’s out there - who don’t know very much - some are in this video lol

[@mystrength5640]

God is watching. Congratulations Bob! You are speaking up for Jesus!

[@ic.xc.]

I've been listening to Bishop Fulton Sheen on youtube. I think his message has resonated a lot with me.

[@thorragsoy6802]

Matthew 16:19, Jesus says to Peter, "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on Earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on Earth shall be loosed in heaven.".....if you can connect your religion to St. Peter then you are the true church of Christ. But as far as know only catholic has its connection to St. Peter

[@thorragsoy6802]

This explain the papacy of the catholic church.

[@justjoe4260]

PETER had no connection or association with later invented roman catholicism and was never a pope

[@theotokos1992]

Why does the diabolical need a catholic preist ???

[@isaiah53apologetics56]

Mother Of All Harlots. Come out of her my people

[@isaiah53apologetics56]

@PuraguCryostato says who?

[@sidmogh2539]

Poor Bob.... he is very naive

[@rajapaus566]

Bob ...please make one organisation christian ...for all of the world ...that your consep and than we will follow you ..as indonesian comunity so what your consep we are indonesian christian oquimene from all kind of chiristian will follow you ..please...what ever your planing isthe best.... thanks bob God bless you...

[@denisSwe]

imagine if that umbrella could hold the phone to record :)

[@princebuster93]

Once saved always saved is the gospel, if you don't believe it, you don't believe Gods promises. How is anyone going to not sin after they are saved with a sinful nature they were born with? You/I are saved by what Jesus did not your continued performance as the Catholics falsely teach. All religions teach works based salvation.....meaning it is your service / works that go towards your salvation....wicked....wicked falsehood. The bible is clear.....it is by Gods grace you are saved through Faith, not of YOURSELVES it is the GIFT of God least any man should BOAST. No one is saved and getting into heaven based on anything they have done...none of your so called good works/filthy rags are good enough. It is Christ's finished work on the cross that saves. Gods free gift to mankind is through his son who died in your place. You are sealed until the day of redemption, no one can snatch you out of the fathers hand...READ the bible, it clearly tells you that once you put your trust in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour, because you recognise you can not save yourself and have sinned against a righteous and holy God, you are saved and sealed immediately, forever....that is the good news. These wicked liars do not read the bible or believe Gods promises. Their vain and puffed up words mean nothing and are not planting seeds with anyone. Woe to those that block the kingdom of God....so sick of this non sense on here....ends rant

[@RobinHood-iw5vl]

JESUS verses the world. Give me that verse please ...along with 'we are saved by faith alone'

[@princebuster93]

@ James Fracis - Ephesians 2: 8,9 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Justified By Faith Alone By David Hunt In the Bible justification is either before God or before men. Justification before God is synonymous with redemption and salvation. Romans 3:24 24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: To be redeemed is to be justified and justification is by God’s free grace, we can’t merit or earn it. Ephesians 1:7 7 in whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; Colossians 1:14 14 in whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Titus 3:7 7 that being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. Romans 5:9 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. (saved from wrath = God’s judgement against sin) To be justified, redeemed, saved by God’s grace brings forgiveness of sins, deliverance from God’s judgement and the free gift of eternal life through the shedding of Christ’s blood. The expression faith alone refers to justification before God, not before men. To be justified in God’s sight is the work of God in Christ and can’t be earned or merited by anything man can do. The following verses make it clear that justification is what God does because of Christ through his sacrifice and resurrection for our sins Romans 4:25 25 who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. 2 Timothy 2:10 10Therefore I endure all things for the elect’s sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. Hebrews 1:3 3 who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; The work of justification is all his and is finished Verses that declare justification is by Faith Alone. Faith Alone because no other requirement is mentioned. John 3:36 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. Acts 13:39 39 and by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Acts 16:31 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Romans 1:16 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. These are Gods promises Romans 5:1 5 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ 1 Corinthians 1:21 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. Galatians 2:16 16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Galatians 3:24 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. All theses verses and many others could be cited, justification is by believing in Christ Alone. The following verses make it clear that justification can’t be achieved by keeping the law or by good works Acts 13:39 39 and by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Romans 3:20 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Romans 3:28 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Galatians 2:16 16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Galatians 3:11 11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, the just shall live by faith. Ephesians 2:8-10 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 2 Timothy 1:9 9 who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, Titus 3:5 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; God bless you

[@inpraise5284]

The Spiritual Battle between the forces of Good & Evil is at play today . The Church that Jesus founded - the One Holy Catholic & Apostolic Church is nearing the " gates of Hades " but it will not be overcome - Why ? - because it is a " Divine Institution " & the only person holding it up is Jesus - Himself ( Matt : 16 : 18 - 19 ). In other words - the Church falls - Jesus falls . The Church is currently in the Hour of its own Passion & must resemble its Master in all aspects including its own Bloody & Brutal Crucifixion . The question is - how many Christians will stand by the Church at the Foot of the Church 's Cross & not flinch . That is the challenge given to each of us Christians - whichever denomination - by Our Lord & Saviour . How many will abandon the Church & its Cross - How many will be accusers - saying - " if you are the true Church - then come down from the Cross & save us also " Matt : 27 : 39 - 44 . Every Christian is responsible for the Church 's fall from Grace . We are its Members - do not just blame the Church hierarchy . How many Christians make it a point to pray daily for our religious superiors ?. How many go out of their way to assist in the caretaking & wellbeing of the church leaders? . How many Christians invite their Religious Leaders to their homes for a Family Meal ?. If you want to protect the " Family " - start with the family Jesus has called - our Religious Leaders . Your critique is flawed - because it does not begin with " I have failed in my duty to be attentive to the wellbeing of my own Christian Superiors God has given to us - generously . Now - we are in the midst of the Passion - where God is asking all Christians to make Reparation & Fast on Bread & Water as a sign of Repentance & seek forgiveness as all of us have failed the Church - Jesus founded - & Jesus will hold every Christian accountable for their part in the fall .Be assured - Jesus rose from the dead - so will the Church - to its Glory - to stand with Jesus forever . So - whose side are you on - a battered Church at the foot of its Cross or on the side of the onlooker who mocked & ridiculed & passed by the wayside. Jesus said " those who persevere to the end - will be saved " Do not sit on the fence - make your decision - with the Church or Against the Church . I stand with the Church - because it is HIS !! and not even the forces of Evil will destroy it . Amen . Fiat . In Praise !!

[@theTruthwillsetyoufree]

church fathers ? What church fathers ?... Call no man your (spiritual) father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven - Matthew 23:9.......

[@kieran296]

Brother ignore him, he is a Arian, what do you expect from a non-Christian?

[@ReadRomans10]

KCCI Arians are Gnostic right? Watchtower has Arian doctrine too from my research.

[@kieran296]

Hi Brother, no I wouldn't call Arians "Gnostics" but they are heretics, they made a doctrine in the 4th century. And yes, JW are the modern day Arians.

[@ReadRomans10]

KCCI thank you I will investigate that more. Imho Watchtower, Mormons, Scientology all Freemason run daughters of rome and friends.

[@kieran296]

No worries, God Bless.

[@honestorchard]

Bob is the man for the job.

[@korneliusmdv7191]

Atheism, you can just speak and do not want to know God who created the heavens and earth while you are still alive. but remember that in the hereafter, don't be sorry if you are not recognized by Jesus Christ and you are thrown into hellfire 🔥 because you deny the Lord Jesus.

[@e100vids2]

for athiests, its better to at least hope, want or need an afterlife

[@nyankoponba]

Boy you know if Bob was around during the crusades.......he would have

[@JamesWasTakenOhWell]

Doesn't Catholic church say that grace is not sufficient for salvation but that good works are also needed ? I don't think that is the gospel.. it misses the concept of being born again all together.. it no longer sounds like good news.. sounds like very old news.. sounds like any of the rest of the religions... lame and boring... doing good works to reach heaven.. making it a compulsion, A law.. I'm out of that.. His grace is sufficient.. when you have understood and tasted this grace.. Joy will overflow your heart.. you'll laugh and cry saying "that's it??, that's it!!!", you will fall in love with Jesus, all your life's priorities will shift.. you will want to be like your father, cause there isn't anyone like that.. nothing will become more important than this love.. you will be born again.. you will do good things then.. not out of compulsion but because you know that you have been given soooo much.. that you would want to give away everything you have with a happy jolly heart and still feel like you have given so little...

[@JamesWasTakenOhWell]

you wouldn't want to sin for the same reason... you'll change by his grace.. slowly but surely.. you'll have freedom!!! I suggest sermons by paul washer, kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6Swg3x-jNaEjNk

[@JamesWasTakenOhWell]

@Dont Worry for salvation it is not needed.. His grace and payment on the cross is sufficient :) and due to this good works will follow but not as an act of duty but instead as response to his love and joy :) you can not earn your salvation with works God Despises your good works it is out of pride and sinful heart, first you need to taste his love repent and trust in him :)

[@JamesWasTakenOhWell]

@Dont Worry again... you will do Good works including evangelizing and everything else but after you have been saved or because you have been saved not to be saved. tell me why do you do them then ? To be saved or because you are saved ? there is a huge difference between the two.. and I would keep James 2 in my bible happily.. there he is saying how can a saved person act like the son of the devil? ============================================================= James 2: What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that-and shudder. You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend. You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone. ========================================= Listen, the man who died on the cross along with Jesus to whom Jesus said "today you will be with me in paradise" , what good work did he do ? other than trusting in Jesus and repenting those were the only thing that saved him and also read a lot of things that Paul wrote. Good works will follow a saving faith, because this world and its things won't matter anymore when compared to his gracious love or Good works can also be from a non saving faith. you can do good works be faithful and chastise reasoning I'm engaged to a wealthy bridegroom or you can also do the same things because you love him. & why do you love him ?? is it because you understand that he loved you first. if you can earn grace then its no longer grace!!! I hope you will find and see the same in the entirety of the scriptures read it again please..

[@elenasutula5914]

Bob is contradicting himself. In previous videos he enlightens the difference between Christianity and other socio-political religions such as Islam and Judaism and that Christianity is a religion where you turn your inner self towards God. However, here he is saying Christianity needs to become more political and social. Render to Caesar what is Caesars, and to God what is God's.

[@yuvanwinanda2210]

Bob, at the end of the Mass the priest (the Catholic Church) says "Go, you are sent!" This means "“Go therefore and make disciples of all nations". So, is it the Clergymen who are timid, or is it us, the church goers or laymen who are timid, Bob? One more thing, Bob. How do you explain the existence and the development of the RC Church in the far east if not through evangelization???

[@ArgyllPiper90]

He can't

[@justjoe4260]

sin will increase

[@anaphora1890]

Bob, not sure, if you're using the term church triumphant in the accurate way. The Church teaches us that it is divided into the Church Triumphant (which includes the members of the Church in heaven), the Church Suffering (this includes the members of the Church in purgatory) and the Church Militant (this refers to those members of the Church who are alive in this world). Because we are part of the Church Militant, we are in a spiritual warfare and this spiritual warfare requires that we recognize, as St. Paul teaches us, “For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and powers, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places.” (Ephesians 6:12).

[@darsom2717]

+Andrew Jacob It's sad that people who call themselves "Christians" believe the absolute ludicrous teachings of the roman church, totally against Jesus Christ's teachings, the anit-Christ is alive and in rome!

[@anaphora1890]

“In truth, there are only two kinds of people; those who accept dogma and know it, and those who accept dogma and don't know it.” c.k. chesterton

[@justjoe4260]

@@anaphora1890 lol chesterton and his ideas

[@standnosharia6163]

Is roman catholism the root of Christianity?

[@justjoe4260]

no

[@myway3633]

Bob you should take step up and re-arrange the christians and start solving their problems and pursuing the persecuted christians in specially muslim countries. It is good that you are defending christianity but on the other side in Europe and America people are not coming to churches, but muslims are taking advantage of this time and always struggling to purchase or hire those churches and doing their prayers. Europe is converting to atheism.

[@alfreciljuarez4828]

CHRISTIAN AND DISCIPLE OF JESUS. WHAT IS A CHRISTIAN WHAT IS A DISCOPLE OF JESUS, IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO? IF YOU ARE TO CHOOSE WHICH OF THE TWO YOU LIKE TO BE CALLED.

[@alfreciljuarez4828]

@PuraguCryostato please allow me to share to you what God had revealed to me about the word christian. During the days of the early disciples being a disciple of Jesus was not regarded as of high status in the society. When the believers were first called christians in Antioch it was not a commendation but rather contemptuous. So the first use of the word christian, he who first to speak the word was inspired by satan. We can tell by the writers of the bible that they do not approved the use of the word christian for themselves. As you can see after that the disciples were called christians the writer of the book of Acts did not call themselves as christians but he continue to call themselves as believers or disciples. Twice after the word christian was again used but as you can see it was used with connection to unbelievers. CHRISTIAN- a person who believed that he was once baptized and a member of a local christian church. DISCIPLE - a learner or a student or a follower whose goal is to be like his teacher or in the case of the believers, the goal is to be like Jesus.

[@alfreciljuarez4828]

@PuraguCryostato you are seem to be a proud christian. Let me ask you this, what things do satan do that the christians are not doing? Just one thing will be fine.

[@alfreciljuarez4828]

@PuraguCryostato that is one of the problem with man ever since adam and eve they do not take responsibility of their actions they justify their sins by the deeds of others. Adam said the woman that God gave him convince him to eat as if it was God's fault . Eve blamed satan and today we blame those around us but not ourselves. Satan rejected God the same with christians rejected God also. Many call themselves christians but in their lives they reject God. If rejecting God is the only thing you can give that satan is doing that christians are not doing then you are wrong. I am trying to make a point here that not because you are a christian you are also Godly. The label christian do not make us right before God. I believe it is our personal relationship with God that matters on the day of judgment. God will judge us individually according to our deeds not according to our affiliation with a certain religion.

[@alfreciljuarez4828]

@PuraguCryostato they who do the works of God are the children of God. They who works the works of satan are the children if satan. 1 John 3:9-10 [9]Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. [10]In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

[@noubaharakhtar2747]

0:32 looks like walking on water

[@kenneththugge6428]

As Christian brothers and sisters, we should not critic other Christians. As long as we believe in the bible and confess Yeshua is Lord and the living GOD we are good. If it wasn't for Catholic, Africa or Asia would have been muslims. If it wasn't for Catholics, Europe would have been conquered. The crusaders defended our faith.

[@justjoe4260]

utter nonsense GOD RULES

[@Speakers154]

Antioch was the place that the words Christian and Catholic were coined in the first century. All Christians need to rediscover how both these words interact: we are followers of Christ, but we are also part of one community that is universal (not just local). Kata + holos is the Greek which means "in respect of the whole". It conveys that as Christians we must be holistic: our faith must impact all aspects of our lives - our education, health, the environment, politics (pluralist), etc. etc. The Church is universal or whole, because it makes us whole, it brings us to full salvation, what a great gift. It transcends time, while also being in time (local time if you like). The truth is whole, so our churches that are local must be open to the universal and partake in the whole, even if we suffer deficiencies. Denominations are local and divided churches, but by baptism they are all part of the whole, part of the universal. If you are Christian, you are automatically Catholic. We shouldn't try to escape living out our faith in a local church; it has to be grounded in local traditions and cultural expressions, because it is incarnational. Jesus lived in a time and place, and so do we. I don't know if Bob is aware of it or not but his frustrations and complaints about Catholics (Roman) not feeling free to evangelise was fully expressed in Pope Francis' Evangelii Gaudium. He fully makes clear that Catholics must get out in the streets and evangelise. I will quote at length from a section of it as I believe it completes Bob's excellent analysis. "81 At a time when we most need a missionary dynamism which will bring salt and light to the world, many lay people fear that they may be asked to undertake some apostolic work and they seek to avoid any responsibility that may take away from their free time. For example, it has become very difficult today to find trained parish catechists willing to persevere in this work for some years. Something similar is also happening with priests who are obsessed with protecting their free time. This is frequently due to the fact that people feel an overbearing need to guard their personal freedom, as though the task of evangelization was a dangerous poison rather than a joyful response to God’s love which summons us to mission and makes us fulfilled and productive. Some resist giving themselves over completely to mission and thus end up in a state of paralysis and acedia. 82. The problem is not always an excess of activity, but rather activity undertaken badly, without adequate motivation, without a spirituality which would permeate it and make it pleasurable. As a result, work becomes more tiring than necessary, even leading at times to illness. Far from a content and happy tiredness, this is a tense, burdensome, dissatisfying and, in the end, unbearable fatigue. This pastoral acedia can be caused by a number of things. Some fall into it because they throw themselves into unrealistic projects and are not satisfied simply to do what they reasonably can. Others, because they lack the patience to allow processes to mature; they want everything to fall from heaven. Others, because they are attached to a few projects or vain dreams of success. Others, because they have lost real contact with people and so depersonalize their work that they are more concerned with the road map than with the journey itself. Others fall into acedia because they are unable to wait; they want to dominate the rhythm of life. Today’s obsession with immediate results makes it hard for pastoral workers to tolerate anything that smacks of disagreement, possible failure, criticism, the cross. 83. And so the biggest threat of all gradually takes shape: “the gray pragmatism of the daily life of the Church, in which all appears to proceed normally, while in reality faith is wearing down and degenerating into small-mindedness”.[63] A tomb psychology thus develops and slowly transforms Christians into mummies in a museum. Disillusioned with reality, with the Church and with themselves, they experience a constant temptation to cling to a faint melancholy, lacking in hope, which seizes the heart like “the most precious of the devil’s potions”.[64] Called to radiate light and communicate life, in the end they are caught up in things that generate only darkness and inner weariness, and slowly consume all zeal for the apostolate. For all this, I repeat: Let us not allow ourselves to be robbed of the joy of evangelization!"

[@LB_die_Kaapie]

Bob needs to be very careful about what he says. That's all I'm saying

[@jeonesevenv9]

J .dV we all do

[@save_theworld]

He is laying his views which you can disagree.

[@darsom2717]

+J .dV " Bob needs to be very careful about what he says. That's all I'm saying " Why is that? Is your roman church going to send out it's secret hitmen to hurt him? Are you making threats on behalf of them? You should be very careful about what you say. Typical teachings of the roman "big men" and there heretical evil roman church!!!

[@lostboyrc623]

I hope Bob discovers the Community of Traditional Catholics

[@jimmybedding3611]

Excuse my poor English ! Ha