REKKR - Doom Mod Madness

[@ShinoSarna]

I love the aesthetic. It looks like a forgotten brother to Heretic and Hexen.

[@DarkstarArchangel]

I think it is closer to Strife than it is Heretic and Hexen.

[@MaxRideWizardLord]

at beginning I thought it was mod for strife too.

[@fabio04081998]

Yes but the Eye enemy is fucking boring! If you miss one eye (maybe because it was bugged in an edge) it respawn ALL THE ENEMY IN THE FUCKING ROOM!

[@AlyphRat]

Man, Imagine if this was released back in the day...

[@MaxRideWizardLord]

Taluigi aren't you the guy I've seen in so many steamed hams videos?

[@MegapiemanPHD]

This games technology is pretty unique and interesting. Magic, hammers, and guns all in one mix.

[@FeelingShred]

And I like how modern/ancient combine in this game. Very well done

[@samlevy9897]

Rekkr, the Doom WAD that dared to ask “what if Lost Souls were Arch-Viles?” and “do we really NEED to give the player any health items?”

[@IconOfSin24148]

N O R D P U N K

[@SylkaChan]

How the hell did they add a grenade launcher weapon in vanilla? I thought not even boom and Doom2 could do this. ❓

[@FeelingShred]

What a joyful experience playing this WAD. Perfect enemy difficulty balance, weapons, level design... Very rarely we come across these horrendous "hit this switch to open that door and run before it closes" mechanic, it's just dumb really... Finished episode 1, been a blast so far.

[@ArctoRockturne]

NO

[@ZanDevYT]

Gotta' love the originality and how the maps contribute to building up the world and keep it together. Awesome mod!

[@Sarioya]

Great review as always, man. Been waiting for this once since Rekkr released. As a note, it also has full co-op and deathmatch support. And, for the slightly more nerdy/geeky among us, it works with vanilla Ultimate Doom as well. ^^

[@marscaleb]

Dang, this thing looks like it could be its own game that I could pay money for!

[@FeelingShred]

And it plays amazing... When you find enjoying spending 1 hour or more in a map and not feeling bored, you know you're up for something special.

[@muizzsiddique]

Well it is now. It's on Steam :)

[@todpolle]

Been playing it on my Switch. Thought it's good so far but you're so right about the defalting weapons. One weapon you didn't talk about was the axe which is a disappointment cause I thought it was weak compared to other melee weapons I played with in Shooters. And it has a great berserk power up too.

[@AgelastSoap]

I've been watching this series lately and it's good to see you checking this mod out, one of the map makers "Velcrosasquatch" is actually one of my best friends who's played doom since the 90s. He made a good amount of the levels in the 2nd episode. This is a great mod that I'd highly recommend.

[@captainjurgh8142]

Despite the limitation, this mod is absolutely aesthetic, unique and creative. Brings you to the another level of Nordic feelings!

[@SinaelDOverom]

You dont need to judge distance there, just run towards the next platform and that's it. The mod is strict-vanilla, and in vanilla platforming is rather uncomplicated, so the authors of the maps adjusted to that.

[@harrison6082]

When my great great (i think) grandpa returned from ww1 after fighting for the russians. He found out his wife fell down a well which caved in on her. He then, went down to try and tried to save her where he died as well, in the very same well. ... The context of this mod reminded me of that, since they both returned from war and found out things are different.

[@Max_j9578]

This is an official add-on to the Unity port, meaning it's official! YEEE

[@modernmobster]

Thanks, I hate it.

[@MoonMinHo]

Frankly not my cup-of-tea aesthetic, but this "Magicpunk"(or Medieval-punk like Stife) visual design seems interesting...

[@lampenpam]

yeah I wasn't very charmed with the visuals when I saw the release but it grew on me. Some levels are really well detailed and that's a mod that runs on the original engine!

[@muhdmukhlis1535]

Strife not stife

[@Kepesk]

Oh shit! I forgot about this. Dood was working on it on /vr/ and I was waiting for release. Thanks for reminding me Icarus!

[@Bodaciousblu]

That was a jackalope not a rabbit Mr. Icarus, peep them antlers!

[@RMJ1984]

I really feel like its a missed opertunity to not focus on bow like weapon with different arrows. Could have been freeze arrows, poison, fire arrows etc. Bow is hands down my favorite weapon in the game.

[@camillecirrus3977]

Its a very weird thing. Bows are so generic and primitive, yet majority of players love using them, be it in games or sometimes even in real life.

[@RaiRaiRai999]

Have you tried Nocturne in Yellow? It basically does that.

[@RevaeRavus]

"freeze arrows, poison, fire, etc". Couldn't have any of those I'm afraid. Vanilla limits are pretty restrictive.

[@ikagura]

@@camillecirrus3977 and are still cool today

[@racccongenocide]

the level design is top notch!

[@FeelingShred]

That was my first impression too, gameplay is fantastic

[@murdercubes4968]

That begging part of arophobinox looks like one of the later levels on Doom 2, i think is called the chasms. I believe what you say just by that

[@hhdhpublic]

WE HAVE A SOUL >:( GRRRR!

[@Tounushi]

Would be interesting to see this taken as an independent game.

[@kawamikazecheant]

A bow, stone steps, grass, brown color use, medieval style, all of this look interesting to me 😁

[@Rorschach1998]

When we getting a borderlands doom mod with all the loot and the bosses ?

[@xDoomedEar]

blackblade 34 I Second this I would do it if I could

[@joblii4075]

still waiting on the ashes and wasteland tc mods, both have the mad max/borderlands-ey feel but neither are available to download (ashes used to be, but the mod creator decided to take it down to work on it more)

[@kyotra]

Play Complex Doom with LCA.

[@BobrLovr]

i love complex doom with LCA, but most people aren't really patient enough for that

[@VictorCrossX]

I've noticed ProDoomer has a LOT of Borderlands-themed aesthetics in. I remember V2 looking distinctly a lot like BL when it came to user interface.

[@TheWanderingMaster]

I am glad your looking at total convert mods, i have been wondering if any kind of puzzle type mods or wads have been made for Doom.

[@DW_Korell]

Which version of REKKR did you play? Only I know that a number of people complained about mouselook being locked out (by the mapinfo) so an update was released that allows you to use mouselook if you wish. Currently (03/08/2018) the latest version is 1.13.

[@THB192]

I believe this is 1.0 or close to it.

[@muiyan]

Goddammit Icarus, why didn't you review the MELEE WEAPONS? I saw the fists and the axe and you completely left them out! If this is a Norse-themed mod then shouldn't hack n slash get at least an honourable mention?

[@TheNoNoNo1]

I have tried out REKKR, and the melee is really....nothing to write home about. It's kind of stinky, and it falls into the standard Doom thing of mostly not being worth it unless you're very desperate. Yes, even the axe.

[@FeelingShred]

The melee is terrible indeed, no range whatsoever and enemies hit HARD

[@BigHailFan]

Axe is god awful.

[@pessie83]

Looks like a combination of Doom meets Rune/Heretic/Hexen.

[@fullcircle2340]

Awesome! Glad it's on the new doom ports now!!!!

[@Lrr_Of_Omikron]

What is it about killing with bows being so damn fun? Like Turok, the bow was the best part.

[@Mephiles343]

Lrr_Of_Omikron true silent and deadly

[@morphed2]

Maybe in the past only people that loved shooting bows procreated. We are now the result of this selection.

[@camillecirrus3977]

Well, the truth is, no one knows. Bows are strange artifacts of the past, a simple way to quickly kill at range that became obsolete when crossbows and eventually [working] guns became a thing, yet bows are still everywhere. Hell, even Warframe has a few of normal, everyday bows, and that game is so far in the future humanity as we know it no longer even exists.

[@xmm-cf5eg]

"quickly kill at range" I'm going to stop you right there, even the nicest of bows (tactical or otherwise) shot by the most accurate of bowhunters have a maximum range of 30 yards, AT BEST. And that isn't that much of a "long range weapon" if you ask me or a lot of bow enthusiasts. Bows are cool, don't get me wrong, but they are NOT midrange weapons by any means. If I had to use a "ranged" arrow or bolt weapon against a dangerous animal or, heaven forbid a person. You and I both would be better off with a modern crossbow.

[@camillecirrus3977]

Yeah, but it doesnt change fact it definitely has longer range than, idk, a dagger. Have you ever tried stabbing someone 10 meters away with a normal dagger? yeah, not very possible.

[@Fr4nkL33-D34DLY]

Great new TC Doom mod, Icarus! I hope you'll review "Legacy of Suffering" for your next Doom Mod Madness review! Please review it, buddy -- it is phenomenal... 😉🖒

[@volocat]

Wow! They say it is a Vanilla Doom conversion. I can't resist trying it on my P133 Franken-laptop in glorious 320x200! Guys, can you recommend other great map packs or TCs, which would run in MS-Dos Doom?

[@MidnightWanderer00]

A little late but Try Doom 4 Vanilla, It is basically a demake of Doom 2016 that's 100% dehacked and vanilla, meaning it can run in any doom sourceport and can even run in DOS!

[@nameless_outlander]

Have a look at Batman Doom.

[@joaocaju3061]

It was launched in Steam with a new expansion just last October 11th, 2021

[@walternelson2687]

For some reason I feel like making a mod where the big fuck off gun does little to no damage while something equivalent to a squirt gun insta-kills everything just to fuck with Icarus's sense of power.

[@Notcertifiable]

Now on consoles as well

[@atmodepth1216]

Amazing style!

[@tenryuuyrnet1332]

This was added to playstation at some point as an add on. I would love to have more of these mod and all available since i dont have a computer at the moment

[@Stringslayer559]

Best mod KZbinr

[@tartuffethesprywonderdog5883]

I agree with your general sentiment. The aesthetic is great, but man, the weapons feel so underwhelming and wonky. Hit detection feels a bit off too. Just isn't very satisfying to kill enemies, apart from that shotgun thing.

[@ghoulbuster1]

Someone else reminded of strife?

[@davidkirinic9463]

my first thought as well.

[@fats3342]

Scientist Walter I thought this was a Srife mod.

[@tripodranger7873]

Having to go through damaging substances to progress reminds me of a certain other recently released total conversion mod. At least, before it got patched.

[@SkydreamPony]

Jackalope, not bunny. It had antlers :3

[@Rad-Dude63andathird]

And now it's an officially supported mod! Been enjoying it quite a bit, reminds me a lot of when I played Hexen back on the N64, just y'know, not in constant nighttime.

[@thepostaldude.jr2]

1:40 so you have chosen death

[@JoesGuy]

Played with both jumping and mouselook. Didn't notice any "messed up graphics" as they claim.

[@RevaeRavus]

There's a lot of midtexture facades that will break if you look up into them. It's not a huge deal. Jumping will break maps if you use it in the wrong places.

[@ESFAndy011]

+Kyros Droztamyr He was talking about mouse look, not jumping. Relax.

[@RevaeRavus]

Well to be fair it didn't have mouselook either. It won't break anything game-play wise that I can think of though. (it does make shootable switch puzzle overly-easy).

[@FeelingShred]

I played it using QZdoom on software render, all fancy stuff disabled, I just had to disable Mipmap Textures and the glitches went away.

[@blacksunshine7485]

I'm trying to play rekkr in zdoom but as soon as I fire the bow it disappears and I can't select a weapon. Any help?

[@k.m6879]

whats the intro music ?

[@mugwump7049]

5'54" Near pancake experience... LOL!

[@GameplayandTalk]

Looks like a pretty solid mod.

[@masterneme]

According to KZbin your latest videos are in 50 fps, is this a deliberate decision or is YT broken?

[@Architector_4]

I guess he started to export his videos in higher framerate now. In case you are wondering about why 50 instead of 60: While USA has 60hz power lines, which means 60hz refresh rate on screens and 60fps being the standard, many parts of Europe have 50hz power lines, 50hz screen refresh rate, 50fps being the standard.

[@masterneme]

I'm European (Spain) and while that is true, PC monitor refresh rates are still 60 Hz. Maybe he's using a big TV? Some TVs work indeed at 50 Hz and multiples.

[@Architector_4]

Well, since 60hz became the standard of sorts, the rest of the world is on the mix between 50hz and 60hz. invasion of AC to DC converters and whatnot aid this, as with such converters the need to sync electronics with the power line frequency disappears, so it turns easier to just manufacture them with any working frequency - then, you can just manufacture those electronics at 60hz to sell in US, and then simply reuse the same blueprints for other countries. Old CRT TVs heavily depended on the power line frequency, mostly because their guts were designed to work straight on power line AC voltage, so the timing of the refresh rate and television broadcasting were entirely dependant on power line frequency. However, with newer technologies, like flat TVs, which were designed to work on DC voltage i.e. required AC-DC power brick, that dependency sort of disappeared - European TV channels still broadcast at 50hz mostly to keep compatibility with those old TVs. Some of those flat TVs, I guess, were either manufactured to keep compatibility with their place, or manufactured to cost less by cutting out 60hz support and using fixed 50hz timer to refresh the screen. Why did I write this huge article of information? ._. Anyways, I think Icarus is using a video capture card - the one you plug in between your screen and your video output on the PC - to capture video footage, and because reasons, it was designed to work at 50hz(capture at 50fps) and no more. Or maybe his PC screen works only at 50hz, as you said. Who knows. In any case, 50fps video, while it doesn't match up with 60fps of most screens, is still smoother than 30/25fps video, so that's a good thing!

[@Architector_4]

...Also, because of you, my food is now cold. .____.

[@gamejerk147]

i was just playing this earlier!

[@Fancysaurus]

Icarus that was clearly a jackalope not a bunny.

[@GamingRoomOficial]

I like the overall style and theme, but I hate confusing maps and backtracking. and good video, as always.

[@metalvideos1961]

you will hate the russian doom mod A.L.T than lol. personally i find that mod absolutely fantastic though

[@hazelbot6399]

Icarus, You ever going to do a stream with Colorful? Some much has been added.... It's a massive ass kick. Even more than it was before.

[@ComratZeUbermensch]

When I try to start REKKR it only loads the regular doom 2 levels, but the weapons and enemy sprites and everything else is changed - can anybody help me with that? I am running it on GZDoom

[@enennene1349]

try running it with doom 1

[@Coburn64]

Hey Mr. Icarus, is your intro piece of music in your intro your own? If so, do you have the name of it and where I could listen to it (ie your Soundcloud, etc)? The short snippet is just enough to make me go "this would be a very nice music track to listen to".

[@skyedafloof]

U can get this on the doom games on xbox

[@templarkid.]

I downloaded the wad but I can only play the doom 2 original maps. What do I have to do to play the Rekkr maps?

[@MaKaBa65]

I have the same Problem, did you find a Solution by now?

[@rosangelaserra4552]

Must be a quirk of more recent GZdoom versions. I played a while back and it worked fine. Try older version from early 2018. Or try QZdoom which has a cool software renderer (version 1.3.0.1 is what I use)

[@enennene1349]

I think you need to launch it with ultimate doom. had same result when launched with doom 2

[@AndroidFerret]

I use gzdoom in delta touch apk on my smartphone and mouse look works completely fine... No issues.. Also i recommend using a gore mod, helscape navigator mod and a water texture enhancement mod like GZD Liquids pack...

[@LuridRequiem]

Is it just me, or does Arophobinox look and play almost exactly like Chasm in Doom 2?

[@itcamefromouterspace1889]

finally a mod that i can call a close cousin to heretic and hexen but some of the weapons are not well animated. also could use some more devastating weapons. I really wish the devs of Amid Evil could learn how to desgin better weapons from Heretic and Hexen their weapons look great but they don't have that oomph factor or the punch of using a weapon.

[@markhirsch6301]

3:30 WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING

[@caesarion4596]

I thought the jaw bones were hands. Ooooops

[@portablerefrigerator4902]

one thing, i wish you would cut to the chase more, i come here to find good tc's so it would be nice if you said if it was good or not at the start.

[@RMJ1984]

didn't we already have a video of this ? or am i just having major deja vu ? i am so confused right now. Anyways this is an awesome total conversion :)

[@barrierloss]

Haven't really had an issue with mouselook so far, I'm definitely not playing without it

[@EHARPER256]

I pretty much agree with the thoughts here. Whilst its clear a lot of work has gone into it, having a dissapointing armory and bestiary, and levels lacking in good flow, is real slap in the face of its appeal, at least for me.

[@thewakeup5459]

I was just playing doom 2 when this got uploaded

[@isawadelapradera6490]

You say that as if you weren't playing doom *everytime.* Because if so, you are doing it wrong.

[@remster1987]

It might be just me, but E3M4 resembles map 24 of DOOM2

[@h4724-q6j]

Am I the only one who thinks that this looks somewhat like Minecraft in the style of the environments?

[@Dondlo46]

Dwars is playing this lol

[@silvarknite7]

would you recoemdned playing this with pistol start rules? resetting to the base weapon on each map. or keeping things from map to map

[@Omicron9999]

Seems like it takes heavy inspiration from Hexen/Heretic. Only thing is the weapons look as if they have the power of a gnat's fart. Even that multi barrel shotgun thing looked anaemic compared to its Doom equivalent. The mod looks cool and there's clearly a lot of effort put into it, but the gameplay just doesn't seem visceral enough for me.

[@alsacienfomelsass]

Best this time :)

[@ParappatheRapper]

So you rekkrmend it?

[@jimslade7319]

That was not a rabbit but a Wolpertinger I guess.

[@sdfkjgh]

Esquilax.

[@tomjensen2572]

It is a Jackalope

[@SkinlessBody35]

You think you can play this with gmota?!?!?!?!?

[@mrdraven2929]

do i need to download a map? because when i run rekkr in doom 2 wad its a normal doom maps

[@rosangelaserra4552]

Not at all

[@enennene1349]

it's doom 1 mod

[@ashtmslf2315]

This looks more build engine than doom!

[@mrfunny3142]

Nice!

[@ikagura]

Could this become standalone?

[@lampenpam]

it could, it probably just needs code changes as there are no doom assets visually. Coupled with GZDoom it could even be distriuted on Steam.

[@riscoloco]

Do a video on doom infernal attack it's awesome!

[@NekoArc]

jackalopes tho

[@kingofpugs925]

You should do Russian overkill with brutal doom

[@mercs7849]

No mouselook? LOL

[@lampenpam]

You can play it with mouse look in gzdoom. But while I usually play with mouse look, this mod just feels like such a classic experience with it being compatible with the original engine, I went without mouselook for this one. It was a unique experience and far less annoying then I thought.

[@BHVmk]

i can only get the doom 2 maps to load cant get the custom maps to load

[@ashtmslf2315]

Its for doom 1

[@chaosreigns7386]

It's a jackalope...not a bun bun

[@GT-lv7hq]

Nice info as always👍

[@raymondmagtanong]

how do i play the original maps mine just opens doom2 maps

[@raymondmagtanong]

how do i play the original maps mine just opens doom2 maps

[@ashtmslf2315]

Its for doom 1

[@pablostufff]

I saw this on Doomworld and was immediately impressed. Glad that you could cover it.

[@bigbad75_YT]

review moonman doom

[@ped-away-g1396]

heretical doom+ketchup is a lot better imo

[@davidrooker5141]

wow

[@akimbofurry2179]

Id tech 1 is what its running on, frankly I wonder how mods like these dont end up there own game. >_> considering the engine is free to use.

[@THB192]

Rekkr actually *is* optionally standalone now since it doesn't use any vanilla assets. This was not the case initially because Revae didn't know how to make a mod standalone.

[@akimbofurry2179]

@@THB192 realty?

[@akimbofurry2179]

@@THB192 Oh that batch file dont need any doom to run, cool, sadly my pc is borked and dont run batch files no more.

[@THB192]

@@akimbofurry2179 There are other ways to run it. But... it can get hairy.

[@akimbofurry2179]

@@THB192 I just reset my computer, and put all my shit on my 2ndry drives, and reset it or what ever its called, did not lose data when I did it, but was not going to riske my datta hord.

[@volocat]

Okay, I've managed to run the damn thing on real hardware in Ms-Dos. It was a pain, but worth it: REKKR crashes when started on top of vanilla Ultimate Doom executable - you have to patch it with DeHackEd. Even than it's realistically unplayable - tank controls are absolutely inadequate, mouse is not sensitive enough, no always-run... you get pwnd by any small pack of monsters. I had to create rekkr.bat file which overrides sensitivity of MOUSE.COM driver (2x horizontal and 0.2x vertical) and launches custom .cfg file with WASD controls and always-run-glitch. HURRAH! It's playable! Though stupidly hard even on medium difficulty. Music is too quiet and, frankly, wrong. First few levels - it's just a distant white noise hiss. In other levels music is very unbalanced. Seems nobody tried to adopt it to proper OPL or SSE chips. Oh! and REKKR it has cool ASCII graphics, when exiting to DOS prompt! Did not expect such a delightful touch.

[@RevaeRavus]

Yeah. None of us had real hardware to test it, so DOSBOX was the only way to go. I imagine the music would sound different depending on the hardware. The static music was an issue in Dosbox, but changes in the setup file fixed it. Don't remember which ones.

[@volocat]

Thanks for you reply! You must have chosen "general MIDI" option, which just forwards music to Windows soundboard (which is technically cheating). The problem might be that the music is just to quiet for FM-synth to resolve. P.S. A-a-and the PC freezes when trying to save at E1M3. >:-( Darnit!

[@RevaeRavus]

That's a known issue that there is no workaround for. By Doom community standards that's still "vanilla compatible", but it's irksome. It wasn't known until like half the maps were made though. No idea which ones are actually save-able. Depends on the number of in-level "things" it's saving the coordinates of. If REKKR were an actual 1996 release it could've included fixes for this sort of thing. Glad someone is giving it a go on original hardware though!

[@volocat]

I treasure modern games for old hardware. Retro City Rampage for 486, Pier Solar for Megadrive and so on. REKKR came so-o-o close to be among those! 2017 shooter game for DOS! But save glitch makes it almost unplayable. I think I have to give up and install it to GZDoom on an Android tablet. P.S. I may do and file some testing on my P133 Compaq LTE 5200, if your team needs it.

[@volocat]

My tests of several Dehacked-enabled DOS engines are as follows: *Vanilla Doom:* Returns 5 errors when starting, but starts. Music track lakes half instruments. Save-crashes. Solid 35 FPS though. *Boom:* Returns more than 2300 errors then quits. *MBF:* Returns same 5 errors as Vanilla, than says those errors are critical and exits. *Vavoom:* Does not recognize the WAD at all. *Doom Legacy:* Starts, saves, plays music as intended, but requires MUCH more powerful PC than my humble Pentium 133. FPS are in single digits (i.e. unplayable). Should I log and file the findings somewhere? Would it help?

[@djMiSSDeeeZ]

one of the best wads I ever played and still playing it, but it's sometimes very frustrating with those labyrinths and platforming. The weapons are cool but some misses the extra punch and power visually and soundaly. This review is very good, ty

[@dossiebigham9113]

Uhhh I can't seem to make rekkr work i have doom 2 and it just reskins the level i though this was supposed to be a TC

[@ashtmslf2315]

It only works for doom 1

[@dossiebigham9113]

@@ashtmslf2315 Okay... that would have been useful to know so you just drag and drop this stuff like everything else?

[@ashtmslf2315]

@@dossiebigham9113 Use ZDL, It's a loader for doom mods

[@dossiebigham9113]

@@ashtmslf2315 okay

[@nabeelbox7397]

Is it only me or does video play more laggy than other icarus's videos ?

[@olzhas1one755]

REKKT

[@dr.chungusphd108]

It’s out now on Xbox switch and ps4.