Quartz Time? Pagani Design PD-1654 Review

[@notgreatnotterribleflying9285]

Your calming voice on this video just sold me that watch. It arrived today and it looks amazing!

[@tickingWATCH]

Quartz and is ticking quicker than one on second, quite interesting option.

[@davidlloydjones752]

I quite respect this company (Pagani Design), as they don't try to hide the nature of their brand. They don't make any ridiculous claims (unlike e.g. 'MVMT' or 'Vincero'), about offering "affordable luxury", and price their watches accordingly. Plus, the 'Aquaracer' homage that I bought just out of interest, about 18 months ago, is still running like a top as one of my two or three everyday, 'don't care if they take a knock or two' watches (I ain't using the 'B word!' ... you know the one). They're currently competing at the level in the market, that their watches would warrant, and those watches seem to sell quite well. My gut feeling is that they'll stick to the lower end of the market, as it seems to be serving them well, and I can't see more discerning watch buyers shelling out hundreds of pounds for something from a Chinese outfit called 'Pagani Design' - says the bloke who spent $300 on a 'Richard LeGrand' (which he loves, by the way).

[@jochenasel]

If you're still looking for a nice quartz with a sweeping second hand please check out the Casio MTD-1086-1A. It's cheap and I was actually impressed of the quality you can get at that price point from Casio.

[@karategk1]

Thanks for the review! I was interested in this watch because of the Seiko movement, until the case was revealed to be just a chrome coated non-stainless steel metal. I'll avoid this one and look for another VH65 movement watch that is stainless steel and sapphire. I always trust your judgement and reviews, so thanks again.

[@thistleclockworks1292]

Great review. Keep up the great work! Watch companies like Pagani selling homage timepieces have a place. For those of us just getting into collecting, Pagani, Loreo, and Cadissen give us a chance to try something before we spend serious money. Case in point, I bought a Pagani Daytona homage. Loved the look, feel, and the Seiko movement. One small problem: my eyes can no longer read the complications. So off to my son it went. He’s thrilled, he gets compliments, he can read it and best of all if he beats the life out of it, only $70 is lost. So I bought a black Timex Allied LT chrono instead as my timing watch. Looks great and I can read it. Similar story with the Loreo driver. No way I would drop hundreds on a top suby style diver before I knew I liked it the feel. I love it. Kept it and that allowed me to confidently buy a Seiko SNZK57, 55 Fathoms. Stunner and all the diver I need. So if this Pagani gives someone a taste of a dress watch, great! These “gateway” watches should be celebrated as much as those who are just getting into this hobby. PS: You’re spot-on about the Seiko Cocktail time. I get lost in the dial of mine every time I see it in the sunshine.

[@georgechau6800]

You are spot on regarding the cheap case and crystal. I would gladly pay more for a better quality case and sapphire crystal, even domed would be cool. The fact that they are trying to use a quartz movement means they are trying to improve. That automatic movement on that older cocktail Pagani was pretty bad, with its stuttering seconds hand. Their submariner homage is pretty darn good with its Seiko NH movement though I have heard from other reviews that the bezel is not great. The only downside for me on that watch is that it is too big; 43mm.

[@glenh4971]

I actually ordered one and am waiting on it. It will be a gift. I think its a nice looking watch for the money.

[@dude28405]

I really enjoy your videos keep up the good work. You're one of my go-to KZbin persons when I want to find out about a watch. I know you're going to give me the technical data and the good and the bad evaluation that I can make decisions whether I want to move forward on a watch I've been checking out. So far you've been right on the money with your opinion and taste so far

[@bengtmowitz5012]

Concerning the Stainless steel or not; I actually took a tool and scratched the surface at the back of one of the lugs. Either it's very thick chrome plating or it is stainless steel, I think that it's the latter, stainless steel!

[@violinmke]

Nice attempt by them. Its not replacing my Cadison 1032 or my Marlin or my... Liked video , giving us options.

[@possumsam2189]

This one is a closer homage to the Rado Coupole Classic than the Cocktail time. It would be perfect if the case was thinner (

[@diamondbed86]

That’s beautiful and I didn’t know about the movement possibility. Looks like automatic. Is there one quartz you have found that has the most automatic looking movement? Thanks!

[@RelativeTime]

The Bulova Precisionist and accutron are pretty amazing to look at. I think they are actually smoother than most automatics.

[@Gasmaska69]

Watch costs $26 now. Ordered the white dial as I think it looks much better. Makes a great gift, especially that it comes with a box. This guy suggest getting a Bambino or Seiko 5. Those cost at least 5-6 times and even more if you add tax/customs expense. There is no tax or customs on this cheap-o.

[@BrianHartman]

I agree with you about that date subdial. I can see why they did it, but I really don't think it was worth doing, the way they executed it. I think they would've been better off just leaving the subdial off and marketing it as a quartz version of their Mocktail Time.

[@Texmotodad]

Hey, nit pick all you want. That's one reason we watch! Keep up the great work!

[@IaMaPh1991]

Now THAT'S a quartz watch I'd actually consider buying. I wish more manufacturers out there would consider making watches with either this or similar movements, as it really does meet that sweet spot for most collectors giving the appearance of a mechanical movement with the longevity and accuracy of a quartz. Now of they had one that ticked 6 or 8 times a second, shut up and take my money!

[@RelativeTime]

If you haven't seen one check out the Bulova precisionist or Accutron IIs. Sweep is crazy smooth.

[@IaMaPh1991]

@@RelativeTime oh I have. As another commenter says, they are like affordable Grand Seikos. I love the technology, but I'm just not too crazy about the cases and dials those movements are placed in, as they tend to focus too much on LOOKING high tech and heavy duty instead of letting the movement speak for itself. A subtle design that quietly does it job well as a faithful timekeeping servant always impresses me more than something that says "HEY LOOK AT ME Y'ALL!"

[@RelativeTime]

@@IaMaPh1991 true. Plus the Precionists are rather big and tall.

[@TheTownWatch]

"311th day of the month", that cracked me up!

[@Zzutubez]

The most expensive Patek in the world has the same 311 on it

[@TheTownWatch]

C CX Really? That’s funny!

[@Zzutubez]

@@TheTownWatch yep, Google image "$31 million Patek"

[@RelativeTime]

Wow! I know there is limited space on a date wheel, but show the even dates not the odd and problem is solved.

[@Zzutubez]

@@RelativeTime but 31 is the last day and that must sit at the 12 o'clock position otherwise the whole date wheel would look wonky.

[@JumpingWatermelons]

Pagani should use that second hand motion for their diver quartz models. I looked at about 6 of them at a store today, and I saw that they can't align the second hand worth a damn (or the bezel). For the second hand, it almost seemed like they don't even try to align it, a good deal of them were halfway between second marks.

[@wojtekimbier]

Can anyone confirm what case material this is?

[@vargusalex]

What is the name of the green Bulova?

[@RelativeTime]

It's a Accutron II reference 96B211. Not sure how easy they are to find anymore.

[@vargusalex]

@@RelativeTime Thanks

[@Gwinter452]

On my screen the dial looks almost light teal/turquoise. However is the Bulova shown really just the 96B211 (green dial)?

[@pauls3423]

Caseback says "stainless steel"... but spec sheet at PD store on AliExpress shows case material as "Alloy". Thanks ... you saved me from dreaming about junk.

[@GabrielGGabGattringer]

Interesting dial design! And it´s blue which I like, size is a bit small for my wrist Similarities to a Seiko Cocktailtime are there.

[@cedarcanoe]

Have you tested if the case reacts to a magnet. That could help you determine the casematerial

[@RelativeTime]

I haven't. Usually I avoid getting my watches near a magnet, but that's more for automatics. I might give it a shot. Although I don't remember if 316L is magnetic.

[@cedarcanoe]

Relative Time stainless steel (like 316L) always is non-magnetic

[@James_k59psn]

It’s a Rolex Cellini homage.hence why it says 311 on the date sub dial.

[@RelativeTime]

I've never been too interested in Rolex, so that wasn't a model I'm too familiar with. Although I am surprised that in almost 10k views you are the first to mention that. Usually, when I miss something fairly obvious someone always brings it up right away. So good catch.

[@kenspear5077]

Another fun Chinese special

[@BackTheBlu]

Have you seen their mechaquartz chronograph?

[@RelativeTime]

No I haven't, but I'll take a look. After my issue with the mocktail time homage I stayed away from them for a bit. But I think they are worth looking more at now.

[@FitOutPost]

I like Pagani Design's homage of Tag Heuer's Aquaracer. Looks almost as good as a Tag's original.

[@RelativeTime]

I'll have to check that one out.

[@FitOutPost]

Here it is - www.aliexpress.com/item/4000319684522.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.56b96906preDLU&algo_pvid=be8c7186-3d25-43cb-b928-b6e94ca4ec2b&algo_expid=be8c7186-3d25-43cb-b928-b6e94ca4ec2b-1&btsid=27311142-5b87-4984-ac3a-869e5e7fc0a7&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_10,searchweb201603_53

[@thefreakingrickdaton3273]

Did you get that blue leather strap on Aliexpress as well??? (really nice by the way)

[@RelativeTime]

Amazon. If I remeber right it's from Ritche, but should be a link in the description.

[@thefreakingrickdaton3273]

@@RelativeTime much appreciated man, great work on your channel!

[@szymonperz4598]

You have information about stainless steel case in product specification on Ali. Are you sure it isn't?

[@RelativeTime]

I'm just guessing as it feels pretty lightweight. But it could be stainless and just rather thin. Or maybe stainless but not 316l, which might be lighter.

[@szymonperz4598]

@@RelativeTime Thank you 😉

[@troynasello2085]

I believe the vh31 has a regular date wheel with the 4 ticks per second.

[@RelativeTime]

There might be one, but I haven't seen it yet. The VH31 is the non-date. www.timemodule.com/en/ourProduct/14&bare=1&Sweep-Second-3-Hands-(VH31)

[@surfitli]

A nice review. For the price is fine. Personally, I really don’t like watches like this, so anything comparable would not be something I would consider.

[@misteragb7558]

what's that strap at 6:06?

[@RelativeTime]

It's a Ritche Orange waxed leather. You can find them on Amazon, or I have a link in the description. It's an ok strap, don't like it as much as their others. The finish leaves it a bit slick compared to a more natural leather feel, but it looks really good.

[@thenexthobby]

Hey hey hey this Bulova fan saw a Surveyor shown not listed in "Other Watches Shown" :)

[@RelativeTime]

True, although a few have asked about it as well. I got it a while ago, was planning to review it but never got around to it. Although I think they are discontinued, so not sure if I will get around to reviewing it. I also got a Bulova Curv back in Septemeber which I really need to get around to making a video on.

[@thenexthobby]

@@RelativeTime Yep, that basic Surveyer style is discontinued. I see 2-3 colorways on eBay usually, but never the blue, green or black anymore without large dollars attached. Probably the smallest model with the 262kHz movement shoehorned into it.

[@SecondHourWatches]

Interesting looks, but apart from the dial it's not great

[@RelativeTime]

Pretty much. They are selling it for $35, so I'm guessing it cost them around $15 to make. At which point it's not surprising.

[@SecondHourWatches]

@@RelativeTime I'd say you're right on there Shane. Certainly not a high cost per unit

[@maciejrucinski5163]

Nice review and nice watch. I like those homages from AliE if only quality is decent. So if you find something interesting please let us know😉 Question: what was that brand when you said "there are better options - 10$ less..."?

[@RelativeTime]

It was a watch I ran across a year ago. The Nakzen Pagoda. About $25 for a good looking dial, seiko quartz and sapphire. Although I think they dropped the sapphire now.

[@maciejrucinski5163]

@@RelativeTime Thanks👍

[@Termiux]

wow indeed nitpicky, good review but yeah for that price really critical

[@knives_and_edc_things]

Very nice design. I like blue color, so i ordered today for 31€. 🥰

[@RelativeTime]

Cool. Hope you like it.

[@matt4398]

Trying to think of a name brand snap on caseback that claims 100 meters

[@RelativeTime]

I think there's a couple of Timexs, but have to double check.

[@islandterror5198]

I have a Chinese special with a Date Wheel that goes from 00-39 ☺️ This Saturday will be 32nd next Saturday with be the 00th... lol 😁

[@RelativeTime]

😄 wow! What brand is that?

[@islandterror5198]

@@RelativeTime It's a Binger B-8602M-1 Shane . Open Heart with Day/Month sub Dials & Date Window.. lol 😁

[@AJMacDonaldJr]

I don't like date subdials either.

[@drgjs]

Too hard to read! Pointless. Rather have a subsecond hand.

[@tonyphillips8726]

I don't get why you are complaining about the 311th day of the month. That day is special! It is my birthday. Septembruary 311 to be exact!

[@Penny2105]

I don't think the case is SS

[@RelativeTime]

It's pretty thin and lightweight, but they list it as SS. Why do you think it's not? Although one thing I'll point out, is that they don't list the grade of stainless steel either.

[@vince8395]

There is an idea of a Patrick Bateman; some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me: only an entity, something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there.

[@RelativeTime]

Would you like to see my business card?

[@-Dash-]

Looks ok if your budget is 30 bucks I guess.

[@WrongTimeWatch]

No sapphire, no thanks. Yes, I know it is a cheap watch, but for me it would be money wasted once I scratch that crystal.

[@Mrtellitlikeitis]

Looks cheap, is cheap. Spend 300 and get the presage IMO

[@RelativeTime]

Well it is cheap, sort of the point. All depends on what your budget is and what your looking for. Everyone has some limit to their budget, and these are good for someone who wants a dress watch, but isn't planning on wearing it often. So they can then spend the rest of their watch budget on something they will wear all the time.

[@nrs6956]

Basically and rather attractive design. But again NO crown guard implementation. Serious error with a inexpensive watch ti begin with. Perhaps a short lived life expectancy?

[@RelativeTime]

I think it would be fine for a couple years, after that start to show its age.

[@Zzutubez]

Jesus, the vocal fry on this one is strong. Pretty hard to listen to you for more than a minute.

[@RelativeTime]

Others would disagree. Out of curiosity where you from?

[@Zzutubez]

@@RelativeTime the UK. This way of talking seems to be more common among you NAs

[@RelativeTime]

@@Zzutubez Ok. Whenever anyone mentions it's usually someone from the UK or Northern Europe. So just been trying to track it to see if its a trend or a specific region. Honestly, I'd never even heard of it before someone mentioned it on here a year ago. After which I read up on it, and still not sure I'm actually doing it or I have a really deep voice. That and I'm originally from Southern California, so maybe part of the accent. Either way, you can't please everyone. Thanks for watching.

[@Zzutubez]

@@RelativeTime yeah I understand. Definitely not a deep voice thing, as it's actually more common amongst young American girls. But it's okay, yours isn't as pronounced as "24 hours at a time" is.

[@RelativeTime]

@@Zzutubez Well the Kardashians are the ones who made it famous and made it an epidemic among college-age girls. Yet if you look into it I think it's a vocal technique that goes way back. One of the articles even talked about it being a generational gap in how people respond to it. Where some found it more authoritative and others annoying. I don't know, as I said I started looking into it a year ago when someone mentioned it. All I know is this is how I've always talked.

[@pranaviyer971]

Why the hell do people make and buy Seiko homages? I mean, save up for the real thing.

[@mariooo2012]

why the hell you spend someone else money? I mean, it's not yours.