Relativism in Altman's 'The Long Goodbye' | Philosopher Katja Vogt and Artist Jens Haas

[@michaelokorodudu2315]

This is such a fucking good film essay. I totally understand the film now. It was immersive and enducing that the theme song and slow 70s camera pan was so mesmerising the narrative didn’t wash over me. But I totally get it now. 2nd time watching too. Beautiful film and amazing essay. Thank you

[@rainydayswithdogs]

This is an insightful analysis of of a great movie. Really well made video, thanks very much.

[@16inchesoc41]

So....the cat is not a relativist? I'm not sure where any of this commentary is going.

[@coliohso]

a concept like relativism is almost so general and ubiquitous now that is retains very little substance when applied to criticism. It just doesnt illuminute much as a critical lens.

[@Michael-vk1vr]

The private eye lives in a morally relative world. It's true in Chinatown and Rockford files. They're just trying to show off their fancy smanchy college degrees

[@liammcooper]

the critical commentators should be pointed to how earlier film noir was non-relativistic in order to understand what makes Marlowe different

[@recepmmutlu]

great content

[@mikebelbin]

Marlowe is a hero: he makes a mistake (helps a bad guy) then chases the truth - despite what others are doing or whether they care. At the end he corrects the mistake with justice. He may be a loser but he's no fink.

[@Royalmunozz]

exelent analisis 10/10

[@novaboy49]

Elliott did a good job as Marlowe, but for my money, Marlowe will always be Dick Powell.

[@ivokolk3840]

relativism need not be completely absurd at all when analyzed from a contemporary metaphysical standpoint. take hugely influential figures such as Hilary Putnam or others such as Eli Hirsch. Relativism is absolutely not as much of a stretch as you’re making it seem.

[@longcastle4863]

Why do people ruin their youtube videos by putting in annoying distracting music over which you have to struggle to get what they're saying?

[@RobertSlover]

pretentious ramblings.....

[@jimmiller7584]

*clicks onto a film analysis regarding relativism in a movie just to insert his opinion about the narrators*

[@RobertSlover]

@@jimmiller7584 pretentious ramblings.....

[@seethevolcane]

Great movie. Obvious, boring commentary.

[@guyjperson]

Counterpoint to the last guy: This movie is horse shit. It does a half assed strip down scene solely to show off Ahnald's muscles. The improvised, overlapping dialogue is more stilted than scripted stuff because the actors have been told to cross over each other's words, but have nothing to work with. The Ernest Hemingway stand in sux. The Nazi from the Blues Brothers sux. I'll put the misogyny down to the era. I have heard about this film for quite a while, and have had it for a while, but finally watched it tonight. It is terrible. I like Altman, I liked Gould in this, I liked catching all the character actors just starting out. Altman is great at giving random characters "business". But this is a bad detective movie, and a bad film. Damn, I'm disappointed.

[@Michael-vk1vr]

There was always a sense of relatisim in the pi genre

[@XavierKatzone]

Naw - he's just a '70s character, the film is chock-full of tropes, and the repetition of the song in variation gets real old, real quick. This Marlowe is inept. He's more like Mastroianni in La Dolce Vita, just watching life go by. If you want a real "detective outta time," try Mickey Rourke in Angel Heart. But this Altman film is boring me. I just now made it to Wade drowning, and took a break. Sterling Hayden is the best character in the film. Not sure I'll even finish it.

[@aa.2864]

man really said angel heart LMAO

[@Rasinlaser]

It also took me a while to watch this movie (two sittings, you have to have patients with these older movies) but it wasn’t bad, but by no means is it the best Chandler adaptation on the silver screen … No that title is held for the Cohen’s brothers Big Lebowski( obviously the Humphrey Bogart’s Marlowe character is tremendous). Lastly I don’t agree with your hypothesis that Marcello in La Dolce Vita was just watching life pass by, the whole time he wants to get “in with the popular kids” and by the end I think he achieves that.

[@blueonblack83]

@Max William Lauf He is not just upset about the cat. He is upset because his friend lied to him, used him and almost got away with murder, and everyone he met in the movie treated him like a dog.

[@liammcooper]

lol imagine thinking angel heart is better than a long goodbye

[@forrestphilpot]

I love Angel Heart but this comment is crazy lol. This movie is an ultra wide lens on 70s and California culture, has a great relationship with dialogues and the comedy of misunderstandings, and lets Gould be a total powerhouse in every vignette of interaction he’s placed in. This couldn’t be farther from a movie like Angel Heart, which is so intentionally dark, spooky, and straight. Maybe go at it again with a different perspective? Or it just isn’t for you, which is fine. But your initial reaction to it is wrong.