I played around with it some. A setting of 4 on the new F2 bias will knock most bottlecaps in my area to iron. Anything below that, like a setting of 3-2-1 they will come in at around 12-14. You can only run one iron bias mode at a time. Whichever one you are on when you exit is the active one. Need to do some more testing.
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the feedback 👍 the default is set at 6 on the 800.. I was curious at what number the bottle cap would drop at. Thanks so much for sharing!
@illsuive5 жыл бұрын
Will be interesting to test it on my 600
@pero13377 ай бұрын
Did you find sweatspot?
@transvamp7474 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorials, I'm addicted to them and I just subscribed. I have about a quarter of a century under my belt metal detecting, although I slowed down a lot lately. I used some Whites and Fishers, never a Minelab. So very recently I jumped back into the present and got myself a Nox 800 (just received 2 days ago). Yesterday I took it out for the 1st time to a county park behind my house where I hunted before many times and found 9 coins in less than 2 hrs, among them a wheat penny and a 1947 Rosi, and 6 trash items. I'm taking baby steps in learning this machine, using only factory pre-sets for now. For the past 2-3 months, since I decided to buy this, I watched hundreds of tutorials and videos. The iron bias was one the more difficult aspects of this machine to learn, that is until I've watched your tutorial and it all cleared up in less then 3 minutes. Tomorrow I'm taking it to a lake for a fresh water and beach trial. I could use your expert advise on what program to use and I will experiment the FE and F2. All the best and thank you again!
@RelicDirtyhands4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I’m so happy you’re enjoying the tutorials. I spent my first few months only using the presets and they are great. This machine will take time to learn but worth the patience. Iron bias was difficult to understand and I had fun testing it out. You being an experienced detectorist, in high trash and hard hit sites keep that iron bias on zero. If you get too many falsifying iron nails, reduce sensitivity down to 18-20. If I’m scoping an area and I don’t have a lot of time, I will then sometimes up the iron bias.. it depends on the type of hunter you are.. all setting are to suit personal preference and site conditions. After three years with this machine, using zero iron bias, I’ve learned the iron tones. I found it was best suited for my hunted hard locations.. I prefer to decide to dig it or not. 👍 using iron bias you’ll dig less of everything not only iron 😁. Fresh water beach I would use Park mode. Park 2 is a little more difficult but worth learning right away. It will pick up fine small items. Beach mode is really only recommended for salt water beaches or on some fresh water beaches that have a high concentration of black sand.. the magnetic stuff you can pick up with a magnet. If mineralization is not a problem, park mode would be a great choice.. Have fun tomorrow 😊
@anyamanjarichannel38204 жыл бұрын
@@RelicDirtyhands Hi can u suggest not to use or use iron bias for beach mode?
@RelicDirtyhands4 жыл бұрын
@@anyamanjarichannel3820 personally I prefer no iron bias,
@WildDigger5 жыл бұрын
Best video explaining the F2 settings I have seen. Simple and to the point. Thanks.
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
WildDigger thank you so much 😊
@ryanjourney96075 жыл бұрын
My Equinox 800 will be here today, so this video along with the others will come in very handy. Thank You.
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
Congrats! Awesome machine! Good luck and wishing you a lot of great finds!
@jamkpa5 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial. I needed this to understand the new setting. You explain it so simple and easy to understand. Great job again And Thank you!!
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
john k yay! Thank you, I received 3 thumbs down so quickly, I was sure it was well explained but maybe not for everyone 😢.. I’m glad you understand the new settings! Thank you for letting me know phhhewee 😊
@DirtFishing5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting but we need some more info from Minelab. So is the detector now using both iron bias settings at once? How would you not use one over the other one? Would you set both at the same number, if not how will that affect things. I will play around with the settings and figure out what works best for me but it would be nice if they gave us more info on its use.
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
It works the same way as Iron bias but this new F2 is enhanced.. You can only use one at a time and not both.. FE will not interfere with F2 and vis versa.. if you dig a lot of nails and bottle caps, switch to F2 Iron bias.. you can increase or decrease the setting the same way as the original.. low means it will give a more natural response and you may dig more falsing.. High F2 will clasify more under iron like bottle caps and rusty nails .
@DirtFishing5 жыл бұрын
@@RelicDirtyhands Thanks. I done some testing and you are right.
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
DirtFishing awesome glad to hear 👍
@larrygenedavis4 жыл бұрын
I learn a lot from your videos . Thanks .
@RelicDirtyhands4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, I’m happy they’ve helped 😊
@briansparks85285 жыл бұрын
Thanks I was not aware of this new enhancement and I will find it very useful ,I will have to get my mine lab dealer to install it for me .Thanks again!
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
Brian Sparks if you have a computer, you can install it from home. 👍 or I’m sure if you live close to your dealer they may able to help, but maybe call first ☺️
@Udx387PaulA5 жыл бұрын
Sweet!!! Thanks Laurie. Really appreciate the tutorial.
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
Yeah 😊 I’m happy you like the tutorial 👍
@diggingupthepast5 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial again !!!!! Love the edit work!!!
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@diggingupthepast5 жыл бұрын
@@RelicDirtyhands Can tell me how did you make this tutorial what program ?
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
@@diggingupthepast Ha ha, it's all using pictures, audio and my corel video studio program. I've been using this program for years.. I love how mush I can do with it!
@diggingupthepast5 жыл бұрын
@@RelicDirtyhands Nice well thanks for the tutorial!
@MetalPirateGirl5 жыл бұрын
Rock On!!! Yet another rocking sweet well done job!!!
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I had people start to ask me questions so figured a tutorial was needed 👍 this update looks awesome, already installed it and I’m anxious to test it out.. I’m hearing a lot of great feedback from people who have already installed it. Whoohooo the equinox just got even better lol😁
@smashby5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this tutorial. Is using F2 effective if not using all metal? You mentioned that it was best used in all metal but I'm wondering what are we effects if using F2 while not in all metal. thanks again
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
Dale Ashby good question, I haven’t tested it without all metal. The specs recommended it.. 🤔
@LittleFluffNugget5 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video, thank you so very much!
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
Opportunity Nox you’re welcome 😊
@anast14954 жыл бұрын
If I put fe9 and f2 9, will the depth differ or decrease for other metals ??
@RelicDirtyhands4 жыл бұрын
It won't decrease depth but it will decrease your chance of finding masked targets.
@DiggingCanuck5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Laurie !!!
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
you're welcome.. it sounds like a great new option.. Anxious to try it out!
@illsuive5 жыл бұрын
Does this affect the default beach settings mode for example? Or does it only work in horse shoe mode?
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
Illusive. Default search modes will use the original iron bias unless you change it to F2. Minelab recommends you use it in horse shoe mode 👍
@mazda78735 жыл бұрын
Have not tested it but I saw a lot of good reports on it.
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
Mazda thanks so much for the feed back! It sounds like a great new option 👍
@yerdigginitmetaldetecting5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your work on these tutorials, they are really helpful. Quick question: when in the F2 mode on the 800, how do the 1-9 adjustments work? Would the lower number mask out more iron or the larger? Does what lower or higher number setting effect depth ... I’ll have to experiment I suppose.
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
It works the same as FE, the original iron bias, low means a more natural response, high it will more likely to classify it as iron.. F2 the default is 6 just like it was in FE. I suggested people watch the original iron Bias, as they work the same, just F2 is now enhanced but is still iron bias 😊
@sadnessinside1235 жыл бұрын
Another great tutorial. Trying to find a pdf or printable how to sheet on line. No dice thus far. Can you recommend any sites that would have that. I need tangible instruction manuals in the field; old man weather here. Thank you
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
I would email Minelab, they should have one
@sadnessinside1235 жыл бұрын
@@RelicDirtyhands thanks
@Ytcoinshooter5 жыл бұрын
It is my understanding so far that the two Fe and F2 actually work in conjunction. The lowest F2 setting would be an overall -1 Fe setting. I’ve got to spend more time working these settings in a picnic grove - carpet of bottle caps. Always more to learn.
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
It shows in the manual they work independently, when using FE, F2 is off and vice versa 😊 F2 still loves aluminium caps but most others it does well with.. I have a bottle cap beach running it max F2 9 was the only way I could mask them.. but I also feared I was masking the good targets as well.. this beach is littered with them
@Ytcoinshooter5 жыл бұрын
Thank you - I’m trying to get the straight info on Minelab’s intent. I’ve read and watched many sources of info on it. I do need to experiment a bit. I usually leave Fe at zero. F2 I’m going to test it it between 0 and 4 while leaving Fe at 0.
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
Ytcoinshooter testing is out is best, I love using iron bias 0 with 50 tones, you get used to the falsifying and really get to know it’s sounds and language.. in my test I didn’t notice a big difference from 0-4 but once I reached 6 I could clearly hear a difference.. all these settings are a give and take.. natural response 0 you may dig more undesirable targets.. running it high, you may miss targets in close proximity to iron producing the halo effect. I use it at zero not to miss a thing.. when I’m in a rush I boost it. The best info you can get is by Minelab.. all my tutorials have been based on the manual and answers I received directly from Minelab. I was shocked at the amount of false information that was being shared.. miss guided information as well. It can get confusing and overwhelming.
@tugboat84755 жыл бұрын
Will this stay in the memory or has to be adjusted every time when switched on? Also what number would you suggest for the 600? Max?
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
Tugboat yes, your changes are automatically saved. I would suggest Minelabs default to start., if you find yourself digging to much iron or bottle caps increase it.. if not you can decrease it for a more natural response
@detector18675 жыл бұрын
Great video are you able to do a tutorial of how to upgrade the equinox 800 thanks. Hh and Gl
@dermotgillespie51385 жыл бұрын
Hi look up minelab update connect your detector USB cable from the detector to your computer follow the instructions as laid out by minelab and bingo you have your update completed
@detector18675 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@RelicDirtyhands3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@mobiusmax65395 жыл бұрын
If the Fe2 setting helps null out iron nails, bottletops and other iron objects in general why would you bother going back to the original Fe setting, i.e in what conditions would the original Fe setting be better than Fe2 setting?
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
It’s an option up to the user, I haven’t tested it enough to say yet.
@pero13377 ай бұрын
So what iron bias is best overall? Did you find out yet :P
@RelicDirtyhands7 ай бұрын
F2 is the best all around, FE I preferred on older farm fields.
@pero13377 ай бұрын
@@RelicDirtyhands oi, thanks for answering still going near F2 - 0 and Fe - 0? or you pump it up on first run
@RelicDirtyhands7 ай бұрын
@@pero1337 are you having problems with iron or bottle caps? Zero is best, but if I use it or need it, I usually use a max of 4 and that’s usually enough for my sites. F2 was a version added with a later update. It’s a good overall iron bias but really helps when you’re digging to many bottle caps and chunky iron. The higher it’s set, the more you risk good targets being classified as iron, but using iron bias could reduce how many trash targets you dig. In areas I hit hard, I keep it at zero. But before I get frustrated I increase to 4. If you are dealing with too much falsifying, a reduced sensitivity can also help in those situations.
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
This new update gives you a new F2 Iron Bias option, it's said to make bottle caps and rusty nails a thing of the past! It’s used the same way FE did..
@TheReal-HeeHaw5 жыл бұрын
So much "Irony" in that statement. Thanks for the tuteral ✌
@jessestone39153 жыл бұрын
Great video but I can't understand why they just couldn't just update the FE setting without complicating the machine for two seoerate setting logically it makes no Sense or am I wrong
@RelicDirtyhands3 жыл бұрын
Personally I’m happy because I use the original FE 0.. My understanding is they created F2 to deal with steal bottle caps.. FE is used to deal with mixed metals and iron, F2 is used to deal with steal bottle caps and mixed metals. Personally I never raise my iron bias, I do prefer the natural response. My first year I found the machine complicated but it changed once I fully understood what all the settings do, now it’s all fun ☺️.. usually people search for iron bias when they are digging to many undesirable targets. I learned quickly what a falsifying nail sounds like and preferred zero.. the higher the iron bias the more the machine will classify mix metals as iron.. when in high iron nail trash, the machine does false, it’s super sensitive and I’ll drop the sensitivity a notch or two.. my last machine would often pick up nail tips as a high tone. Yet when you pinpoint it will slightly shift you over onto the iron. A false tip will be hard to isolate as you x over the target.. it’s like it moves a little.. a good target doesn’t react the same. I hope this helps 👍
@nick.c69695 жыл бұрын
What f number do you guys use
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
Nick. C this weekend I’m Going to try F2 at about 4 and see how it goes, I love FE and I’ve gotten to know it well but this new setting sounds great.. I have to try it out before I can say which one I’ll stick to though 😊
@nick.c69695 жыл бұрын
@@RelicDirtyhands keep me posted
@JonR355 жыл бұрын
So when in fe2, is fe1 irrelevant? Or does it work with the fe settings as well.
@RelicDirtyhands5 жыл бұрын
You can still choose FE it’s set as the default but now you have a new iron bias F2. I guess you can say it’s another choice . From the feedback I’m getting, a lot of people are impressed with F2. You can only use one at a time.. the original FE or the enhanced F2, it’s up to the user👍
@JonR355 жыл бұрын
@@RelicDirtyhands I know this but im asking if fe1 affects fe2 or does fe1 become irrelevant when in fe2. Thanks!
@breakit465 жыл бұрын
The Equinox Hunter yes fe1 is not working if you are using fe2.