Religion is BANNED in China?! 中国宗教信仰自由吗?

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livinlavidaluke

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A British PhD student in China discusses his experiences of religion in China. At first, i thought it might be banned but in fact, 18% of the population are Buddhist and growing religions here such as Christianity account for 5% of the population. There are churches, mosques, temples everywhere you go in China, even in the most communist part of China which i show at the end of the video!
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@livinlavidaluke
@livinlavidaluke 3 жыл бұрын
Stick around to the end of the video where i go to a church in China, it was interesting!!
@Psalm118.26
@Psalm118.26 3 жыл бұрын
You might be interested in hearing this as I did an investigation on this matter over two years ago from all the commotion we were hearing in the MSM about China cracking down on religion and no religious freedom in China etc etc. Upon my investigation, it turned out that the US was weaponizing Christianity against the government in China. It was like digging for a needle in haystack but eventually I found an article revealing what was happening and why the CPC had to take action to stop extremism building up in underground churches similar to Muslim Ugyhurs being radically converted in Xinjiang. This is something western media is hiding from the world.
@NoGyiEa
@NoGyiEa 2 жыл бұрын
I also personally identify myself as an atheist. Here in Eastern Europe, on university campuses, young people who are generally part of more serious religious backgrounds (like Pentecostals, Baptists, etc.) tend to gather in very large groups in dorm rooms, pray together, read from the Bible or sing, generally in the evening. Politics or social aspect don't come into this stuff, but I can say that on the ground level, these people tend to seek to convert their roommates who are generally not very religious people (or other people generally in the class with them/on the university campus in general), or to ''force'' those in the room with them to attend these gatherings involuntarily, since they have nowhere to go at the time of the meeting. These things are fine, but can get annoying as time goes on. I can understand why China, with its history of religious extremism, takes these things much more thoroughly and seriously.
@jackliew7993
@jackliew7993 2 жыл бұрын
@@Psalm118.26 Totally agree.
@hcjet
@hcjet 2 жыл бұрын
religion law in China in short: no religion activities is allowed in public areas and only allowed in religion facility or area like a church, payment recruitment and force for religions not allow, everyone has rights to chose religion or not, everyone has right to quit from religions at any time; however one rule in China: communist is non religionism! (in other words communisms itself is a religion)
@joshlim4695
@joshlim4695 Жыл бұрын
The church appears like the Anglican Church I go to based on the settings inside, the Lord's prayer they recited and the traditional hymn they sang. As far as I know, China has strict restrictions on religious activities because apparently some foreign governments try to use extreme religious doctrines to influence and brainwash the local Chinese people in order to cause insurrections, political instability and coloured revolution that are aimed at toppling the Chinese government. Let's be honest about it, no country in the world will allow foreign interference, be it a communist or a democratic country.
@longhairdolphin
@longhairdolphin 2 жыл бұрын
Religion is not banned in China. China only ban those who use religion as a "divisive tool" for personal gain.
@Time4Peace
@Time4Peace 2 жыл бұрын
When I was posted to China more than 5 years ago to teach, I attended a local church in China. It was always overflowing with congregation. The pastor and visiting preachers were all local Chinese and at some points, I was surprised that some sermons touched on sensitive social and political issues. I attended church services for foreigners too and entry was by passport. The preachers are foreigners. I realized what the Chinese authority wants to ensure that religion is not used by foreigners as avenue of political influence. Years earlier, I remembered church members from overseas visiting China were asked to bring copies of Chinese bibles into China. During my posting in China, bibles were sold on the campus. I bought a couple as each costs less than US$2. At that price, China can export bibles for the world!
@padmaTony
@padmaTony 2 жыл бұрын
That’s true,I had same experience.
@kakaxifx4913
@kakaxifx4913 2 жыл бұрын
In China , nevery let relegion influence the political, that's the line from like 1000 years ago. The relegion used to influence the politicals(thousands of years ago) , and it ends badly, many people dead.
@surjatjandra3270
@surjatjandra3270 2 жыл бұрын
@@kakaxifx4913 yes. I agree with you
@jing5924
@jing5924 2 жыл бұрын
As long as there is someone is responsible for the gathering and the church is registered in the local government, anyone who wants to damage the church will be protected by the government. And it's not a cult.
@joneslo5572
@joneslo5572 2 жыл бұрын
I am an oversea borned Chinese. I had visited China many times on work assignments. While there, I was free to attend English speaking church reserved for foreign passport holders. I visited the so called government recognized churches and non- registered home churches
@Alina-yy4zu
@Alina-yy4zu 3 жыл бұрын
This is the legal norm in China. According to the Constitution of the People’s Republic of China, the people have the freedom to believe in religion, and no organization or individual can interfere with the freedom of religious belief of others. However, people who believe in religion cannot gather to promote religion among atheist masses, and can only hold it in specific religious places. Similarly, atheists cannot preach atheism in religious places like theists. Most people in China are atheists. For places such as universities and colleges, reminding foreign friends not to gather crowds to promote religion on atheistic occasions is a matter in compliance with the law.
@thisiskevin1000
@thisiskevin1000 2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily atheists, many are agnostics and irreligious people. And comes interests among millenial and gen Z populace about various religions today. Context matters in analyzing the real world
@annoyingchannel8812
@annoyingchannel8812 Жыл бұрын
So they restrict freedom of expression because they are scared of the message. Typical autocrats.In a pluralistic society the best argument would win.
@owenthecook
@owenthecook Жыл бұрын
Also, it’s against the law to preach religion to people under 18 years of age, as kids cognitive function have not been fully developed (a bunch of dum-dums), thus they cannot make rational decisions. Police will leave you alone to what you do in your home behind close doors, but there is going to be problems if you do that in public, eg. at a kindergarten or grade school.
@KurniaLim
@KurniaLim Жыл бұрын
@兰空keoic yes, IMO buddhism and taoism are just like philosophy of life on how to become a better person.
@huamok7088
@huamok7088 Жыл бұрын
As a Christian country like Canada has more Christians than gays and lesbians. But the Lord's prayer in the mornings has removed from public schools for many years. The schools can no longer allowed talk about christianity. Merry Christmas is now replaced with happy holidays. Yet the it is mandatory to share the family values including two dads or two moms in primary schools.
@Zerpentsa6598
@Zerpentsa6598 2 жыл бұрын
Even if the west can only understand "religion" as meaning only Christianity, the answer is a firm "No"! Religion is definitely not banned in China. There are numerous churches in China, and they are often well attended, unlike the many parish churches in the west with dwindling congregations of elderly pensioners. But churches in China are required to be registered and expected to be free from foreign interference or dependence. Foreign meddling can come in various forms, such as denominational dogmatic oversight and strictures. It can also come in the form of "teaching material" such as Bible study notes and books into which can be smuggled cultural or political ideologies and lifestyle which are detrimental to Chinese traditions. "Home churches" or underground churches are naturally frowned upon because they are by their nature often trying to form counter-cultural and even anti-communist movements among its members. Many of them also see evangelisation or "witnessing" or proselytization as a divine imposition on the followers, leading to people being badgered or pressured. Straight-laced American evangelicals will also dismiss China's myriad religious practices as religion. Seen as idolatry, Chinese religions are inconsequential to the arrogant western religionists. China has thousands of deities that people worship regularly. That's their RELIGION, and millions freely practise them without hindrance. Go to Fijian, the home of the Mazu cult, and you see millions of devout followers. Pop into any Buddhist or Taoist temple and religious freedom stares you in the face from the statues. There are many other religions such as Islam, Zoroastrian, Shamanism, etc. that flourish in China as long as they stick to what religions are supposed to be about. So to talk about religion being banned in China is ridiculous. Yes, certain "religions" are banned because they are deemed to be dangerous to social and political stability or corrosive of Chinese traditional culture, whether Han, Uyghur, Kazakh, Zhang, Miao, Lisu, etc. Doomsday cults, of which many American fundamentalist versions of Christianity tend to veer towards, are much frowned upon. Many are led by "charismatic" leaders who often live lavish lifestyles on the "giving" of their followers. China is right to ban them. If only politicians in the west have the courage to ban the devious televangelists who blatantly scam their flocks. But when people can be so easily (mis)led, it is a gift to the politician in a system where power comes through popularity.
@josechong8207
@josechong8207 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing... I have come to some of the same analysis and conclusions...
@becritical7476
@becritical7476 2 жыл бұрын
excellent sharing. I am 100% with your viewpoints
@annoyingchannel8812
@annoyingchannel8812 Жыл бұрын
Pure sophistry. The Catholic Church has to fight the state for the right to appoint its own bishops. Because the state wants to interfere and control the engagement with parishoners. And who deems religions as dangerous to social stability? The Chinese Communist Party. Who can never be voted out of office.
@horacioaust
@horacioaust 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime someone tells me that we banned religion, I was like, really? There is a catholic church right in the very center of Beijing. An entire automous province of muslims. Buddhist and Daoist temples everywhere. Not mentioning all the traditional gods temples like the drgon kings, the Old Man of the Moon. Religion is banned in normal campus, because it's a place for study, and it's only banned for preaching, nobody cares if you believe in some religion yourselves. And there are even actual religious universities where you can study buddhism, catholic, islam, or whatever you want.
@jing5924
@jing5924 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure nobody wants cults. There are cults in Australia, for example.
@kiddhkane
@kiddhkane Жыл бұрын
And there's even special fun camps for buddhists and muslims.
@おうねい
@おうねい 2 жыл бұрын
My mom is a Christian. She is the most devout Christian in the world. Since childhood, she must thank God for any good or bad things that happen around us. Thanks to my mom, our family became atheists. But I respect God very much. My mother is actually a sensitive and fragile person and God helped her a lot.
@donaldtan8565
@donaldtan8565 Жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in China, my father had been a PLA (People's Liberation Army) high-ranking officer before his retirement, being a communist Party member is a must, and of course, he had no religion. The interesting thing is, it has never been a problem that my mother was and still is a devout Buddhist,. I am an atheist and I married an Orthodox Russian-Ukrainian wife, moreover, our kids are Orthodox as well under the influence of their mother and Babushka (grandmother), and we have been living under the same roof happily. It might be a rare case but my family reflects a tiny part of reality in China, religions are not banned.
@anz473
@anz473 2 жыл бұрын
To be precise, Chinese law only allows preaching and other religious activities in places of worship, such as churches, temples, mosques, etc., but it is illegal to conduct religious activities in other public places. In short, the Chinese government treats religion like the US government treats alcohol, you can have it,but you can't just have it on the street.
@游志-j9q
@游志-j9q Жыл бұрын
In fact, it's OK to preach privately. If the person being preached doesn't expose it, it's OK. My mother has a neighbor who goes to her house to preach to her every day. My mother doesn't want to join in, but she says every day that my mother is bored, she won't talk to her. After she has gone there several times, she never goes there again.
@jackliew7993
@jackliew7993 2 жыл бұрын
As Chinese Catholic living in Beijing China, I really love this video. Thank you for your sharing.
@thisiskevin1000
@thisiskevin1000 2 жыл бұрын
Church and state functions are strictly separated - and its quite normal based on international practice and experience of course to preserve one individual's right to believe and question spirituality. People should research more on the 1982 PRC Constituion, and the complex histories of religions in China such as Buddhism (Mahayana, Tantric, Theravada and Pure Land schools), Christianity, Islam, Daoism and traditional folk religions, including Bön and shamanism. Requires an open mind and REAL WORLD interviews with real experts, adherents and relevant people
@IwasUnknownUser
@IwasUnknownUser 2 жыл бұрын
generally, we don't like any religion, esp. Islam and Christian don't tell us what we should do Abraham religion is not our culture
@thisiskevin1000
@thisiskevin1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@IwasUnknownUser Your right to question the existence of deities is understandable, but you should also know how to co-exist with them without offending their practice. Even Confucius himself is a religious skeptic as what I learned.
@thisiskevin1000
@thisiskevin1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@IwasUnknownUser And by the way, both the Greek and later Roman Empires have their grave reasons of using Christianity after their conquests of what is called the "Fertile Crescent" (present-day Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan, Palestine, Israel and parts of Turkey and Iran) area of West Asia/Middle East - an offshoot of Judaism.
@IwasUnknownUser
@IwasUnknownUser 2 жыл бұрын
@@thisiskevin1000 that's the western history, and had nothing to do with Chinese, and I lived in Israel for years and I knew the history. If Christian stay in EU and other countries, that's not a problem, and also after the religious reform, Christian already changed a lot. but Islam didn't Change and still a terrorism, let's face the reality.
@IwasUnknownUser
@IwasUnknownUser 2 жыл бұрын
@@thisiskevin1000 ​ @Kaven Borbon 1 no Muslim want to co-exist with non-Muslim, that's the problem 2 face the reality that there is evil belief like Islam which is always want s to destroy and dominate other people, unless Islam can be changed, if not, don't preach others to take the risks, the best way is to put all Muslim back to Islamic countries, don't bother us
@anonymintheworld9781
@anonymintheworld9781 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for share things about China. My father is atheist, my mother is Buddhist, my sister-in-law and my best friend are Christians, and I went to college with about ten Muslims in my class, I'm a Chinese living in Uk
@kelic5035
@kelic5035 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lucas for the video sharing. This is really an open eye for Chinese in Malaysia as many of us (youngsters) still eagling to go to travel in China. Hope to meet you there one day! 😁 Subscribed to your channel straight away~~
@livinlavidaluke
@livinlavidaluke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! ❤️
@kelic5035
@kelic5035 3 жыл бұрын
@@livinlavidaluke Thank you for the reply. Stay safe and make more videos ✌😁
@livinlavidaluke
@livinlavidaluke 3 жыл бұрын
@@kelic5035 no problem, although call me Luke not Lucas next time😜
@kelic5035
@kelic5035 3 жыл бұрын
@@livinlavidaluke Sure Luke. My sincere apologies to you. Cheers 😍
@Vince_LGMG
@Vince_LGMG 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for your video, it is very necessary to have more Vloggers to introduce more real situations to the western audiences.
@thisiskevin1000
@thisiskevin1000 2 жыл бұрын
And requires more translations into other languages to target particular audiences whose mother tongues are neither English nor Chinese.
@mohw7052
@mohw7052 2 жыл бұрын
You could make a few videos about the university life in China, it would be interesting for those that want to study in China.
@longyou8254
@longyou8254 3 жыл бұрын
Luke always can see the depth of an issue, really touching the core of crux, your opinion is valuable and insightful 👍
@livinlavidaluke
@livinlavidaluke 3 жыл бұрын
appreciate it👍
@kl9518
@kl9518 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Even allowed to film inside a church. You can't film in a church in some places in the west. You can't preach openly on the street in the UK. In the UK you can't openly read the Bible in some churches unless you are qualified or registered.
@LyxYun
@LyxYun 3 жыл бұрын
7:35 I subscribed immediately 😆
@j.z.3129
@j.z.3129 2 жыл бұрын
在中国,真正的宗教和信仰是完全自由的。 但是,不能对信徒和公众造成人身伤害,宗教不能颠覆政治,宗教不能煽动暴乱和造谣!中国政府要确保以上这些,就必须要注册宗教在中国的合法性。其他的中国政府是不管的,谁要信什么教都不会管,只要不会造自己和其他人和社会的伤害就可以了。
@mooglemy3813
@mooglemy3813 Жыл бұрын
Interesting info from a Brit. I still don't know what to make of western religion in China. Well I'll keep an open mind for sure. Enjoyed a lot of the comments also.
@游志-j9q
@游志-j9q Жыл бұрын
You should come and feel the scene of Taoist, monk and priest chatting together.
@ricardoluitam
@ricardoluitam Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Keep up the good work. Support
@Time4Peace
@Time4Peace Жыл бұрын
When I was posted to work in China years ago (in early 2000's), I saw bibles sold on a campus in Wuhan (street stalls within the campus). It costs less than US$1 for a bible. I bought a couple.to give it to my Chinese Christian colleagues. I also attended a Chinese local church close to where I worked. It was overflowing with congregation. I had to go half an hour early to get a seat. The pastors in the Chinese church are all Chinese. From their sermons, I guessed that had training overseas as they made reference to churches overseas. In one of the sermons, I was surprised to hear an advice to give thanks to God first, not to the Communist Party! I also attended a foreigner's church which is only meant for foreigners (entry by passport). The difference is the pastors are all foreigners. I guess China does not want the churches to be used as a tool for subversion but as a spiritual institution.
@十四弟少侠
@十四弟少侠 Жыл бұрын
We must thank the Communist Party? We stopped doing this kind of thing 30 years ago
@Time4Peace
@Time4Peace Жыл бұрын
@@十四弟少侠 Did I say you must?
@liangli9379
@liangli9379 2 жыл бұрын
Buddhism is religion. Temples can be seen everywhere. Christianity is exotic religion, government pays more attention because some people were misled and went extremism with it, like Falungong. If you are a Christian or any other religious belief and just doing your faith alone, no one cares you, but if you preach some unknown religion there, government can not tell what purpose you are after. That is why the restriction comes. They just do not want another Falungong again.
@squashdevicer
@squashdevicer 3 жыл бұрын
Go to any temple in China and they are teeming with people praying, making offerings, etc.
@supremacy2040
@supremacy2040 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you lying? In Taiwan YES! But the mainland NO, most temples are museums. Come on man.
@surjatjandra3270
@surjatjandra3270 2 жыл бұрын
@@supremacy2040 you alone are lying. I'd been to china. And visit temples there. People are free praying there. Even my relatives native Chinese are Buddhist always attend the temple in Fuzhou.
@culture5679
@culture5679 2 жыл бұрын
@@supremacy2040 why are you lying?? mainland has lots of temples.
@supremacy2040
@supremacy2040 2 жыл бұрын
@@culture5679 sure… they are museums.
@supremacy2040
@supremacy2040 2 жыл бұрын
@@surjatjandra3270 they are all tourist areas. What are you talking about? Actual temples and churches and religious places that everyday people use aren’t tourist areas. They don’t have proper services there.especially in Fuzhou are you kidding? The only place that’s many don’t even consider china that I’ve seen people actually doing proper Buddhist mantras and practices is in Tibet and even that is no longer a practicing temple because they CCP won’t allow it. People give offerings there too, monks go to pray there as well but they can’t be blessed by other monks and have Buddhist services there. I’m sorry to tell you, that what is happening in Buddhist temples in china isnt really considered being a “practicing Buddhist” I have family members who are monks, china isn’t a proper Buddhist practicing nation. Those who are monks in china have to swear their loyalty to the gov first, no REAL Buddhist would do that.
@liamtolen4216
@liamtolen4216 2 жыл бұрын
I have gone to Roman Catholic mass daily in Shanghai, The government refurbished the oldest catholic Cathedral in Shanghai at their expense. A religion has to be registered with the government just like the USA. Peace be with you!
@lovelife5783
@lovelife5783 10 ай бұрын
In the comments section, many people said that Chinese law does not allow missionary activities in non-religious places. Yes, large missionary activities targeting atheists at non-religious sites are certainly not allowed. But if only a few people are talking, and one of them is a member of a certain religion, he propagates religion to several others and wants them to convert. In this case, the government will not interfere.
@yy-tu4fo
@yy-tu4fo Жыл бұрын
因为很多宗教不好好服务教徒 总想着触及政治,远离了宗教本身。
@steevek
@steevek Жыл бұрын
越远越好!对大多数的中国人来说,宗教已经是过时的玩意!
@lordlee6473
@lordlee6473 Жыл бұрын
There are so many churches where I live, every time I passed by one, the words that pop up in my mind are tithe and tax evasion.
@huiqinjinxi4514
@huiqinjinxi4514 Жыл бұрын
Well done. I think the reason why Bible is not available everywhere in China is that most of Chinese are atheists like yourself, and of course that is just based on my 27 years of personal experience living in China. It is not true Chinese people or government are against any religions.
@duoduokk
@duoduokk Жыл бұрын
宗教信仰在中国大陆并没有受到限制,只是出于国情考虑,有些需要监管,避免出现那种狂热的宗教份子,只要不影响社会秩序与国家利益,你信什么教,政府不会管你。
@ansa336
@ansa336 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, one of your best videos.
@tianqi8387
@tianqi8387 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, hahah 以前在大学的时候有个同学就是基督教,他们还经常在学校聚一起唱基督教的歌,好像学校也没有干涉。不过在中国大部分都是无神论,如果去西藏这一块区域,就会发佛教比较多。
@livinlavidaluke
@livinlavidaluke 3 жыл бұрын
嗯嗯是的,西藏有很多佛教寺庙,新疆有很多寺庙,每个城市都有教堂!thanks for your comment!
@lxzeng8593
@lxzeng8593 2 жыл бұрын
中国年轻一辈都是基本无神论自由,宗教自由只要是好的。
@zhangkenny3604
@zhangkenny3604 2 жыл бұрын
不不,我们信神的,每到快考试了,各个教派的神我们都要在心里拜一拜,保佑我们不挂科才好。
@chickendinner992
@chickendinner992 Жыл бұрын
Mostly correct and fair. But 2 corrections: most good Unis in china are govt founded and maitained sort of so not really private institution; and if you are a party member you are not allowed to believe in any religions, which sort of make sense cuz party members need to believe in science and communism.
@kayapi5321
@kayapi5321 Жыл бұрын
中国是一个无神论的国家,大多数人都没有宗教信仰,所以当你遇到一个中国人,不要跟他谈信仰。但在中国你的宗教信仰是自由的,你可以选择归依任何一个宗教,只是在公共场所,不会举行大规模的宗教活动,官方的定位是,宗教可以净化你的心灵,让你更善良,摒除恶念,但不能制造分裂,凌驾于国家的管制体制之上。
@StrategicFooyouAgency-dg8yh
@StrategicFooyouAgency-dg8yh Жыл бұрын
话不能那么说,中国人绝对全都是信仰神的,为什么?我没钱的时候我信财神,我生病的时候我信佛祖,我运气差的时候我信三清,不下雨的时候我信龙王,我考试的时候信春哥(前提是它们都得灵),中国人绝对是最虔诚的信仰者了
@erfanyu902
@erfanyu902 Жыл бұрын
@@StrategicFooyouAgency-dg8yh 不平的时候可以骂天!
@user-amostalong13
@user-amostalong13 Жыл бұрын
@@StrategicFooyouAgency-dg8yh 这不算宗教信仰,可以算是精神寄托😂
@dsallen0716
@dsallen0716 Жыл бұрын
Throughout Chinese history, religion and politics have been separated... But there are religions outside of China that have always wanted to interfere with politics. So if purely religious beliefs are not forbidden. From the historical point of view... Religious involvement in politics has always been a war.
@lovelife5783
@lovelife5783 10 ай бұрын
Let me give you a simple example: in a religious country (especially a certain religion), a person must be born into that religion, and the person cannot get rid of that religion or follow another religion, and if a person wants to leave the religion, he will be hated and even killed. However, in China, a person has the full right to join a certain religion and to withdraw from a certain religion, and it is illegal for someone to force others to convert or prohibit others from leaving in the name of religion.
@suekis2903
@suekis2903 Жыл бұрын
Actually as a person who is good at singing, i remembered i sang christian songs in a choir when i was young to give performance to a group of adults😂even if i am not christian at all😂
@YizeCheng129
@YizeCheng129 Жыл бұрын
Me personally: I respect your religious practices within the law, but don't bother me or even force me to join. Besides, I am also from Guizhou, but in my hometown, I have never seen a church (or I have not followed it). The church in your video feels more like a group of friends getting together, singing, talking and so on.
@waiu0235
@waiu0235 Жыл бұрын
Allowing promotion of one religion will be unfair to one another. So i think the China Gov is doing right thing. You can still practice religion privately. Don't forget thete are 1.4 Billions people in China
@fatdoi003
@fatdoi003 2 жыл бұрын
what i say religion in China is free to worship but regulated.... also the government determines which ones are legit and which are cults
@annoyingchannel8812
@annoyingchannel8812 Жыл бұрын
Like autocrats. And sheep like you think big brother knows best. Pathetic.
@fatdoi003
@fatdoi003 Жыл бұрын
@@annoyingchannel8812 I'm atheist so I don't give a shxt if there's religion or not...
@tomliu7228
@tomliu7228 Жыл бұрын
The current China allows any believe if it doesn't involve any political issues which is a good way to see if it is good believe
@sc8916
@sc8916 2 жыл бұрын
At least you don't need to be worried about getting shot either in the Christian church or mosque in China
@root3183
@root3183 Жыл бұрын
对宗教的传教规范限制不仅是针对天主教或者基督教,对所有宗教都是一样的,包括中国道教和佛教。之所以有这些限制是因为中国政府不想中国人因为宗教信仰的不同而产生以宗教信仰为基础的分裂群体。这就像欧美现在的第三性别,不管你支持或者不支持第三性别本身属于个人自由,但欧美的政客为了选票人为的制造出以支持第三性别和不支持第三性别为基础的两个群体,政府非但没弱化而是强化凸显了这种意识形态上的差异,必然引起不同信仰或者说不同观点群体之间的矛盾和分裂。这对所有人都没好处,只会让人无休止地互相伤害。
@아홉개의꼬리를가진여
@아홉개의꼬리를가진여 2 жыл бұрын
指正一下,中国任何学校都是明令禁止宗教的,这是政府的命令,学校就是学习的地方,禁止任何宗教传播。 同时,中国除了执政的共产党之外,还有其他八个政党,都会参与国家政策的制定和施行。 中国共产党是无神论政党,只要你加入共产党,就不能参与宗教,你的信仰是国家和人民。 中国本土是道教,很多人信仰。 但中国人更多信仰的是自己祖先,信仰生活是自己奋斗出来的,而不是神给予的。
@yl8834
@yl8834 2 жыл бұрын
出国留学之后也发现这一点,我觉得跟我们国家历史悠久的文明有关,宗教在中国历史上的发展和存在的时间真的很短,而且中华文明和智慧的形成和发展也不是基于宗教。对于宗教治国甚至没有文明发展可言的国家和一些民族,很难跟他们解释这一点。宗教信仰就是很个人的自由,跟政府还有政治没有任何关系。你信什么那是你个人自由,但你不能做扰乱社会秩序危害他人。在中国我觉得我们对宗教大多看作是你自己选择的生活哲学态度。提及的学校也只是禁止宗教活动你信什么也没人干涉,小学就有其他民族和信仰的同学,大家都没觉得有什么稀奇的,会好奇大家习俗吃的不太一样去你家玩你来我家玩。可能西方对中国了解太少了就总觉得很好奇。特别很多外国人,包括跟我讨论中外文化差异的法国同学,我觉得欧洲年轻人还是多花些时间了解自己国家历史,再看看世界史,然后再慢慢了解中国历史。中国那么多民族能融合繁荣至今不是一朝一夕的,这个美国是理解不了的也不可能在未来解决这个问题。
@servanttoall4037
@servanttoall4037 Жыл бұрын
Here in Canadian province of Quebec, wear religious symbol if your are a state servants, whether be it the hospitals, schools or offices. And we all know about France no Muslim women can wear their Hijab or any kind of Islamic modesty, if you do you will be dragged and fined.
@coccinelle8482
@coccinelle8482 Жыл бұрын
Religion is not benned, it’s just don’t take such importance in commun life organization. As a Chinese person, religion just like dance club, you can choose or not choose it, of course, if your mother is a dancer, you may be proposed to dance since childhood.
@user-amostalong13
@user-amostalong13 Жыл бұрын
很好的观点
@ideaparkcc
@ideaparkcc Жыл бұрын
You're telling the truth.
@mimiwinarto9164
@mimiwinarto9164 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful hymn!
@michaeltse321
@michaeltse321 Жыл бұрын
The local churches around here only open at certain times.
@xukxukxuk
@xukxukxuk Жыл бұрын
Chinese government not encourage people to believe religion. But religion is definitely not ban in China.
@eastwind3550
@eastwind3550 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@dazuo2341
@dazuo2341 2 жыл бұрын
严格说,圣经在中国是免费的。所以不能商业销售或购买圣经,但你可以免费通过教堂获取。
@gendiabdi7281
@gendiabdi7281 Жыл бұрын
There are more Christians in Zunyi Church than in London Anglican Church?
@insideout9824
@insideout9824 Жыл бұрын
If I run a university, I wouldn’t want religious teaching in my campus too especially the one that contains violence in its holy scripture
@LFShen
@LFShen 2 жыл бұрын
China allows almost all religion, but prohibits any religious behavior with a political purpose
@arareign8944
@arareign8944 Жыл бұрын
That's VERY REASONABLE indeed...HERE in my country our constitution states the SEPARATION of the GOV'T and the CHURCH BUT the Dominant Church never adheres to that they even USES the PULPIT to teach the people TO BE AGAINST THE GOV'T and the GOV'T does nothing about it( because the people will rally to defend the Church ) and they are used to it...
@blueswu1975
@blueswu1975 2 жыл бұрын
中国一直都不是一个政教合一的国家。这跟欧洲的历史和发展经历有很大的不同。
@hokeatseng4094
@hokeatseng4094 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.....guess we told that China was such...cruel government.......till now many is still in the blues....about Christian being tortured so on so on...till I met a American teacher from Texas when he arrived in Malaysia from China telling us there is more freedom then of the USA ..🤔
@茉莉花茶萝莉控
@茉莉花茶萝莉控 2 жыл бұрын
China has freedom and democracy different from the West It is your freedom to believe in any legal religion in China If you want to know about China, please don't trust western media such as CNN and BBC If possible, welcome to China. China is completely different from your previous understanding
@jing5924
@jing5924 2 жыл бұрын
It's not banned in mainland China, but rather local governments respect its people’s religious beliefs
@frankfrank9987
@frankfrank9987 Жыл бұрын
good view which is basically based on facts..
@hcjet
@hcjet 2 жыл бұрын
religion law in China in short: no religion activities is allowed in public areas and only allowed in religion facility or area like a church, payment recruitment and force for religions not allow, everyone has rights to chose religion or not, everyone has right to quit from religions at any time; however one rule in China: communist is non religionism! (in other words communisms itself is a religion)
@grandwonder5858
@grandwonder5858 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to say this but here in the US the media are telling people Uighur culture, writing, religion, books, festivals, music, dances, etc are banned in China! And here you are telling us you are experiencing these things about the Uighurs in China? Well, somebody is lying and I don’t think it is you!
@goodluck250
@goodluck250 Жыл бұрын
There is a very simple proof of the Uyghur problem, check the back of any version of the RMB and you will see Uyghur on it. It is ridiculous to accuse China of oppressing race and culture, especially the Uighurs
@xiaomeiwang8103
@xiaomeiwang8103 2 жыл бұрын
感谢你的正义!
@tonylow9893
@tonylow9893 2 жыл бұрын
All religions if you sincere and honest,then all Gods will forgive no matters female or kids
@andrewlin6136
@andrewlin6136 Жыл бұрын
did you notice something , that there's no statue inside the church.
@txxxchao
@txxxchao Жыл бұрын
I attended an international Christian Church when I lived in China. Not sure if the content of the sermons needed to be approved first.
@livinlavidaluke
@livinlavidaluke Жыл бұрын
Yeah i think so
@Time4Peace
@Time4Peace Жыл бұрын
Not so. I attended one local Chinese church and was surprised that a pastor said in a sermon to give thanks to God, not the Communist Party! I asked my Chinese Christian colleague about it. She wasn't surprised. I am a foreigner.
@yizhang3507
@yizhang3507 Жыл бұрын
信仰自由,是包括人有信仰任何一个宗教的自由,也有不信宗教的自由。 但是很多地方不能随意传教倒是真的,比如学校这种有很多未成年人的地方。 我觉得西方很多国家并没有信仰自由,至少并不怎么尊重没有宗教信仰的人。
@wujiao8373
@wujiao8373 Жыл бұрын
great video
@livinlavidaluke
@livinlavidaluke Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@manamartha2904
@manamartha2904 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Luke, what are the least competitive universities to get into for the csc scholarship
@livinlavidaluke
@livinlavidaluke 2 жыл бұрын
Universities that are not in tier 1 cities
@mars-oo
@mars-oo 2 жыл бұрын
上初中的时候就老师讲。就算你反对宗教也不能和他们辩论。保护宗教,例如 上帝能创造自己搬不动的石头吗?
@erfanyu902
@erfanyu902 Жыл бұрын
理解。这是因为中国大部分信徒都是少数民族,为了团结他们,大部分无神论的汉族就要对他们有所包容。 可是在别的国家,教徒的势力很庞大,他们也很强势,这就要有人来跟他们辩论,灭灭他们的威风
@scy9272
@scy9272 2 жыл бұрын
What China does not allow is proselytising.
@stanbimi
@stanbimi 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job dubbing whatever the preacher said. 😁 You know that Buddhists are supposed to be atheists, right? 😇
@thisiskevin1000
@thisiskevin1000 2 жыл бұрын
It's a dharmic religion alongside Hinduism, Sikhism and Jainism
@stanbimi
@stanbimi 2 жыл бұрын
@@thisiskevin1000 What does alongside mean? Sikhism is monotheistic. Hinduism is both monotheistic and henotheistic. Jainism can be atheistic or polytheistic based on the way one defines "God." Buddhism rejected Creator God & creation.
@JWscandi
@JWscandi 2 жыл бұрын
​@@stanbimi "Buddhists are supposed to be atheists, right?" - This is a very wrong common notion about Buddhism. In Buddhism's 31 planes of existence there are planes of Gods. In the texts, even Buddhists pay respect to various "gods" that exist in various planes. "Buddhism rejected Creator God & creation" - This is also partially correct. Buddhism rejects the (benevolent, personified) Almighty God (which contradicts with realities and logic) but does not reject the ability to "create" by super beings. "Gods" have certain ability to "create" with their mind. Buddhism calls the nature of our existence as "imperfect nature" or Mara, while all religions called it the (perfect, personified) almighty God. That's the difference. Hope this helps, to all the readers.
@stanbimi
@stanbimi 2 жыл бұрын
@@JWscandi Your theories are the perfect example of how the contamination of Buddhist teachings by Hindu/Brahmin dogma since the "Mahayana" period led so many people astray about Buddhism. For the basics, read the early Buddhist texts such as the Nikayas or the Agamas. Also read up on the historical development of Buddhism in India. Good reference books are Professor AK Warder's "Indian Buddhism", or an introductory text: Professor D. Kalupahana's "Buddhist Philosophy- A Historical Analysis". There are many knowledgeable English speaking Buddhist monks still alive, such as Bhikkhu Bodhi in the US, or Ajahn Brahmavamso in Australia.Have some humility and listen to their discourses.
@JWscandi
@JWscandi 2 жыл бұрын
@@stanbimi I totally agree with you on the "contamination of Buddhist teachings by Hindu/Brahmin dogma since the "Mahayana" period.... Yes, my main references are based on nikayas esp. the middle discourses. Yes, I'm very well aware of historical development of Buddhism. Yes, I know Bhikkhu Bodhi, whom translated many texts into English. Yes, I know Bhikkhu Ajahn too. What I commented were based on my deep and vast knowledge of Buddhism, not restricted to those mentioned by your good self. Rest assured what I commented was valid....not theories.
@hsiaofonglinkane
@hsiaofonglinkane Жыл бұрын
I am Bhuddhist i connect the Temple master via wechat does not look have any problem though.
@sigmalife9625
@sigmalife9625 Жыл бұрын
When i like to laugh at stupidity,ive watch something like this.😅
@bartonlee3594
@bartonlee3594 2 жыл бұрын
We Chinese like religion, because we are now sick of the Communism religion.
@ganboonmeng5370
@ganboonmeng5370 Жыл бұрын
China do not ban religion.useless it is politicised..same policy in my country..and a good policy too...
@kiddhkane
@kiddhkane Жыл бұрын
Religion isn't banned in china. Only the "wrong" kind of religion is. Like Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Taoism. You are free to practice the one good religion, aka communism.
@YufengWang
@YufengWang Жыл бұрын
The most of universities are stated ownd in china,not privite。The religinon acctivy can only be hanpped in religion area,campus is not religion area,SO it is illegal。your video remind me one interesting thing,there is a bible in every hotle in 20 years ago,But now There is not
@workingproleinc.676
@workingproleinc.676 3 жыл бұрын
Short answear no.
@edie930
@edie930 3 жыл бұрын
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@weihuashi7069
@weihuashi7069 2 жыл бұрын
Religion is not banned in China.
@cedricwai7499
@cedricwai7499 Жыл бұрын
Correction, China never banned any religions. In fact China have many religions, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Taoist and etc,etc. Better do more research and homework.
@livinlavidaluke
@livinlavidaluke Жыл бұрын
What are you correcting? I literally said that in the video, did you watch it?
@taomao-jr9bf
@taomao-jr9bf Жыл бұрын
因为宗教在中国就是一个抽象的不能抽象的东西了,小说里有修仙大能,那我都代入做飞升大能了都,那我信的宗教的头头到底是什么啊😅
@yw7893
@yw7893 Жыл бұрын
It is not banned obviously. :)
@taboobunny9186
@taboobunny9186 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing bible is not widely sold there simply because most Chinese aren't Christian. Also, religion is not that important for most of us...I'm an atheist myself, even though my family is Buddhist..
@shnmak2958
@shnmak2958 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a Chinese comment (DA ZUO) explaining that “strictly speaking, Bibles in China are free. That’s why you can’t sell or buy a bible commercially, but you can obtain one free of charge from a church”
@arareign8944
@arareign8944 Жыл бұрын
@@shnmak2958 I think that's how it should be because the BIBLE is a word of GOD that shouldn't be COMMERCIALIZED BUT the so called CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES THEY ARE SELLING IT IN BOOKSTORES JUST LIKE HERE IN MY COUNTRY...
@onkycui
@onkycui Жыл бұрын
反正我个人是很讨厌法轮功的,我身边就有认识的人去学,还是大学的老师,结果后来疯掉了。有病也不去医院看病,天天说师傅会传功给她,然后他老公没办法了,把她绑到医院去看病了。我妈也差点要学了,还去听课了,回来说要买书和磁带,要30块。那个年代30块不是小数字了,然后被我爸一顿骂,骗钱的东西,才没去继续学。要不然,可能又神经了一个。看法轮功在外面的宣传,什么器官移植,骗骗农民还差不多,竟然还那么多外国人信了...🤣。现在神韵一场海外演出贵宾票300欧元,好像看到了我妈当年那30块的故事。
@sigmalife9625
@sigmalife9625 Жыл бұрын
Respect countries culture and tradition.mind your own.dont go there,plain and simple🙂
@taiwaing5410
@taiwaing5410 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@ielee1765
@ielee1765 2 жыл бұрын
Religions are not banned in China, all you heard is all western anti-CPC propaganda or western stereo typing. In school you are not allowed to teach religion but all the food for muslim halah food are cater for.
@ingenuity168
@ingenuity168 2 жыл бұрын
It's better to ban religion. Religion is divisive.
@ストリアン
@ストリアン Жыл бұрын
And the same people who say that are the same people who think that a capacity for religious experience and practice is intrinsic and innate to human beings; in other words, humans have a natural disposition towards the other-worldly-namely, the Divine. One must only be ignorant of human experience and history to think otherwise, so why would you hold the silly view that religion must be "banned"? Espousing garbage taken from the abyss of the hellish school of "new atheism" is not very impressing.
@ingenuity168
@ingenuity168 Жыл бұрын
@@ストリアン Whatever.
@madahua
@madahua Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Please let all Brits know what you see and trash BBC !
@IwasUnknownUser
@IwasUnknownUser 2 жыл бұрын
don't speak for us most of Chinese don't like Abraham religion like Islam or Christian, they are not our culture. we have Taoism and Confucius, which are sufficient for ppl who needs so-called religion. the freedom of religion in China is to allow anyone to discuss religion and object any religions, and allow any one to abandon religious belief without consequences no one needs to respect anyone just because the person is religious any religion can't intervene people's regular life that's why Islam is highly objectionable in China don't bring your ideology or religion to China you are not welcome if you don't et pork, don't com to China don't tell us to respect you, but you don't observe our culture or traditions
@williamlin2076
@williamlin2076 2 жыл бұрын
Im Chinese and I don't mind people not liking pork or Islam. Only thing that can be a bit annoying sometimes is when religious people try to get you to convert to their religion.
@IwasUnknownUser
@IwasUnknownUser 2 жыл бұрын
​@@williamlin2076 1 你所谓你不在乎并不说明问题,问题在于穆斯林和伊斯兰强迫别人必须屈服于伊斯兰,既然中国是我们的国家,那么来我的国家就得遵守我们的规矩,本质就是我们不喜欢伊斯兰不喜欢穆斯林,也不想接受他们来中国 2 在中国有穆斯林,但是他们基本没有中国认同,而且在中国的所有恐怖主义事件都是穆斯林制造的,不要视而不见,默不吭声 3 所有的伊斯兰国家和其他宗教国家都歧视排斥压迫甚至迫害非教徒,既然他们要求所谓宗教自由,为什么不在他们国家推行无神论/非伊斯兰教,既然不对等,那就不要来中国 4 吃不吃猪肉不是核心,核心是他们用不吃猪肉来区分人群制造矛盾,所以不吃猪肉就不要来中国,省的出现麻烦
@hlw9676
@hlw9676 2 жыл бұрын
you know china more than a normal chinese does.
@xz1891
@xz1891 2 жыл бұрын
Very simple... Individual belief, nobody gives a hoot, organized spreading, nan.
@ripplelau5553
@ripplelau5553 Жыл бұрын
I need to correct that you can buy The Bible and the Quran freely on taobao or other online shopping webs. Why can not? Strange fake news.
@tenlee4744
@tenlee4744 Жыл бұрын
Yes yes ccp is very powerful but chinese people easy to buy western people .
@suckmemore
@suckmemore Жыл бұрын
mark, set, 6sec, what happen to all those f$%king gods! ha..............................................
@jesschang5193
@jesschang5193 2 жыл бұрын
我们有信的自由也有不信的自由,不会有人说你是异教徒!
@Yan-666
@Yan-666 2 жыл бұрын
你居然连陕甘回乱都知道
@yusufrahman4
@yusufrahman4 3 жыл бұрын
Mate you are walking around in circles 😂
@livinlavidaluke
@livinlavidaluke 3 жыл бұрын
Nah I was having a walk along the river 😂
@yusufrahman4
@yusufrahman4 3 жыл бұрын
Can I get a shoutout
@jasonpwilson01XFORCE
@jasonpwilson01XFORCE 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in China for 10 years. Yes all religious practices are illegal in China.
@ameliah8164
@ameliah8164 2 жыл бұрын
funny
@Taoistimmortal
@Taoistimmortal 2 жыл бұрын
Stop lying to get attention you poor soul.
@wenlj726wen7
@wenlj726wen7 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know which so-called China you live in? The city where I live is only a second- and third-tier provincial capital. There are Buddhist, Taoist, Tibetan Buddhist, Christian, Catholic and Islamic buildings in the Central Plains, and churches and halls are everywhere. When I was in middle school and high school, it had been more than 20 years since then. On Christmas, my classmates and I would go to church to feel the Christmas atmosphere. During the Tibetan New Year, Tibetan Buddhism held pujas and Buddhist festivals. Mosques are too much here for us. There are too many. The Central Plains Buddhism is full of people on the first and fifteenth day of the lunar calendar and the Buddha's birthday. Local Taoism also has a dharma meeting on its own festival! In addition to various festivals, the usual prayer service is a very common activity, worshiping Buddha and Muslims praying can be seen everywhere! Up to now, I have lived for more than 30 years, and I have never felt anything new!
@hngyuli7455
@hngyuli7455 Жыл бұрын
I guess you have a very different interpretation of "religious practices" compared to most people.
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