Remember When I Was Wrong About Elias Pettersson?

Since the internet wants to remind me, I donned my Tool shirt to talk about it.
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[@PetterHughes]

Pettersson now has 17 points in 14 playoff games with a few highlight reel goals and passes!

[@josha5266]

Is now a top 10 center that just had a 102 point, selke contender season.

[@You-Cant-Do-That.]

@@josha5266 Is now (currently) the top forward in the league

[@Ishkur23]

I think one thing a lot of draft analysts don't take into account is the player's drive and ambition. What's going on between the ears. At the draft Pettersson did not have a good shot. Scouting report said it was average, and Pettersson himself knew this. So he broke down his shot into 12 component parts, and he worked on each part individually over a whole year. This obsessive-compulsiveness paid off dividends when he tore up records in the SHL. So the draft analysts were not off. He was where he should've been at the time he was drafted. What they didn't take into account was how hard he was willing to work after the draft to get much, much better.

[@dangud]

👍

[@riot121212]

Very appropriate shirt to wear for this video....

[@TheHockeyGuy]

Same one I wore for that live stream.

[@pahulgill6114]

@@TheHockeyGuy 8-5

[@czarii2422]

pahul gill 4-0

[@pahulgill6114]

@@czarii2422 3-2, 2013. It hurts doesn't it, fk off kid!

[@czarii2422]

It appears I’ve triggered him. Lololololololol

[@griffhorn4992]

As a Canucks fan I couldn’t be more excited, were even scoring 5on5

[@Persholm1]

we're*

[@AmokCanuck]

@@Persholm1 were*

[@sleevelessace]

we are*

[@samkohler6221]

I doubted Pettersson because I didn’t think he was a good enough skater to make up for his size and I was super wrong. The guy is a total freak. I think he has the best offensive awareness I’ve ever seen.

[@generaldestiny8862]

Sam Kohler and his defensive awareness is A+ too

[@samkohler6221]

General Destiny dude’s crazy, if he was a better skater we could be talking about him as the best player in the league

[@fadedparadise447]

@@samkohler6221 his skating isnt even bad too... he's also so creative and deceptive with his puck skills!

[@nucks2233]

@@fadedparadise447 i didn't know much about him when he was drafted by us, but I trusted the brass and their decision. When I saw his Timra highlights I was like WTF!? This kid's amazing! I didn't think skills like that in Division 2 Swedish pro would translate to the NHL, but then when he dominated the SHL last year I was so pumped

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Oiler fan I'm in complete shock In his gretzkey like vision on ice. If Canucks are on ,I can't walk away from watching him. You have some great players very exciting team Wish you guys the best Coming season Oiler fan

[@talesofsymphonia295]

I was also taken aback a little when the Canucks drafted Pettersson at #5 because he wasn't really talked about or covered by the big media outlets. When I saw his highlights though, I was totally excited to get him at #5. Now that he's had 17 points in just 11 games in his young career, I'm just happy that we have another electrifying player to look forward to watching for years to come.

[@anttiheikkinen627]

There is a perfectly fine reason why Pettersson was not rated highly by many listings and that is because he played in Europe rather than in North American junior leagues. Unless the prospect looks really good in the league they play in in Europe he is slightly overlooked. In the same breath we see how experts in Finland/Sweden tend to rate the prospects playing in their league higher than those who play in the across the pond as they observe the players more closely. A good example of this is Sebastian Aho who most Finnish experts were already raving about and were talking how Carolina got a steal whilst ignoring some of the talent that was playing overseas in their draft year such as Jokiharju and Välimäki (they started to get more hype after the draft of course in Finland).

[@jameson1239]

They also don’t take into account how driven a player is to improve

[@historyrepeating]

I just watched a video of reactions to EP40 being drafted the other day... and tbh you still come off much better than the other guys Shannon 😂

[@BrentWalker4]

That's a hilarious video now

[@OneAndOnlyKJx]

You're good Shannon. You know more than anybody commenting on KZbin.

[@lucrativelyrics8131]

..but ya can't know the future

[@exeter1985]

I totally agree with you. I wish that habs123 could learn a little from you?

[@jakecandela9168]

Pepper ridge farm remembers

[@gocanuckurself1]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[@allghilliedup21]

I admit I was also one of the “who the hell is this kid?” When we drafted him. Even when he tore up the SHL, I was still doubtful and thought “he’s too skinny for the NHL. He’s gonna get demolished and pushed around.” That was until I saw him in preseason doing all kinds of dangles against Edmonton. Was even more impressed when he did it against Florida during the season. Amazing. He has such a nice shot. Having two guys (Boeser and Pettersson) with howitzer of a shot is a blessing.

[@tttll3437]

Kid is flourishing in his 2nd year...a true contender for the Hart this year....Superstar Petey!

[@nigelparkes4365]

Tool \m/

[@nathanstreilein758]

New album 2030?

[@tomatoversace3427]

Nathan Streilein 2019 my friend

[@psychedalex5906]

Tool?? My favorite hockey youtuber is also a fan of my favorite band??

[@marcher73]

the band is fine, i like "Sober", good song.

[@stevecampbell9670]

To be fair, all of the fans and everyone in the Canucks organization apart from Benning and Gradin thought that 5th was too high for Petterson. I am quite happy that we were all wrong.

[@bretthughes8679]

To be fair there were many people who were stoked from the start about the pick.

[@bretthughes8679]

Well that's not true! Many of us fans on CDC were ecstatic with the pick. I think

[@shawnreems493]

Idk I was pretty stoked when they picked him at 5th just for the stats he was throwing up in the swed league like beating Forsberg record is unreal

[@jarhead0099]

It's the butterfly effect though...if they had drafted tkachuk, its not automatic they would have picked pettersson. They could have had a better season next year, they might not have scouted pettersson if they felt they had different needs or didn't acquire dahlen...the point is you just don't know what the team would look like if tkachuk had been drafted by canucks

[@svedz]

Us swedes saw this coming miles away. Elias Pettersson won the points league with 56 goals in 44 games as a 18 year old. And his playoffs performance was nuts, the kid was literally on fire. The last time we ever saw a youngster tear up the Swedish elite league at such a young age was Peter Forsberg. He already has a 1.5 points per game (#3) in his rookie season. Pettersson is already an elite player, just give him a few more years and he'll be a beast.

[@CharlesCharloCharles]

You do get that was after the draft? So your references had nothing to do with how he was evaluated for the draft of 2017. Not 2018

[@drumagus2258]

@@CharlesCharloCharles he already played a full season with grown men in the sweden second division. he was top ten in scoring that year as 16-17 year old.

[@CharlesCharloCharles]

@@drumagus2258 that I know. Didn't claim otherwise. Just saying that his accomplishments in the SHL had nothing to do with his draft. As that happened after the draft.

[@svedz]

@@CharlesCharloCharles I'm talking about the people doubting Elias Petterssons skills coming into the NHL.

[@CharlesCharloCharles]

@@svedz not what the video was about, now was it. :) So obviously I assumed you were addressing the video and not the whole of Internet. However after the 2017 season most people knew Elias was good?

[@PancakesAndHammers2426]

Hardly anybody could have predicted how well he'd play.

[@steelassault262]

True, but after I laid eyes on that scrawny chicken neck Elias has, I went UHH_OHHH. I honestly think Chara could strangle him with one hand. Anyway, after Matheson rang his bell, on a rough play, I'm concerned they may need a body bag instead of a stretcher if Elias gets nailed with a brutal open ice hit.

[@PancakesAndHammers2426]

@@steelassault262 That Chara visual is hilarious.

[@steelassault262]

I could see Chara's big hand wrap around Elias's neck almost twice, and then Chara would contemplate whether he should snap the kid's neck with his thumb. And NO, I highly doubt Elias will ever get on Chara's bad side, or that Chara would do anything like what I'm describing, but I do think Chara could strangle the little boy from Sweden with one hand if he wanted to.

[@andrew1131]

www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2017/5/28/15706426/elias-pettersson-and-the-myth-of-the-two-horse-race The fancy stats know better than us

[@dr3putt62]

Pancakes and Hammers: sooo true predictions are a total crapshoot

[@alexandredaigle8479]

How are the Nucks winning 6-4 right now and Pettersson doesn't have a point

[@TheHockeyGuy]

Pettersson is having a good game, just not scoring.

[@dlind1985]

1 point he had (an assist on the seventh goal)

[@goomymaster6417]

@@dlind1985 Eight goal, actually.

[@robinfransson6689]

He suck

[@dsrevo79]

The team as whole are asleep offensive aside from horvat and pettersson.. they better score now n then

[@shawnswinehart3461]

Nice Tool shirt. Just saw them for the first time in May. It was life changing.

[@JeremyCuddles]

Hindsight warriors are whatever. I wanted Glass that year. I am man enough to admit I don't know everything about every draft eligible player. I latch onto players, read as much as I can, and hope for certain guys because of the very few things I know about the guy. The Canucks scouting staff are even surprised at how good Petey is. So these hindsight warriors need to chill.

[@1983skeletor]

You take risk when you state your opinion in front of thousands of people. I think you have more balls than all the people waiting to tear anyone down the second they are wrong. I have disagreed with you many times, mostly on pettersson but I in no way think your opinion is invalid. You are fun to watch and am thankful you do this! I admire you Shannon, it takes guts to do what you do! I support you even if we disagree sometimes.

[@SugaryHobgoblin]

DOPE Tool shirt Shannon. You keep getting cooler man!

[@stefanconradsson]

What is the exact address of the "Hockey Prospects" site that Shannon is talking about. It would be nice to always give addresses as a reference in the description when they are central to the discussion .. yes? Cheers

[@SherlockMahomes99]

I wanted Cody Glass at the time lmao

[@maguire9496]

TPCWorld - Top 5 Space Videos! Same thank did we didn’t pick him

[@jonahwilson9297]

Who else is here after petey just dropped 100 points

[@barneyblue7355]

Shannon, just curious why did they have Veleno going in the second?

[@canuck81]

"Nobody saw this coming" Benning saw it coming!

[@jahnvansohn9906]

No. If he saw it coming, he might have been 1st overall

[@ennisdelmar807]

@@jahnvansohn9906 van had elias at nr.1, they were planning to trade down to 8th spot but didn't because NYR traded up to spot 7 and also had Elias at nr.1

[@mikeJones-zo8si]

At the draft I thought why take a small Skilled sweed. Didn’t know much about him until about November /December when I started to watch videos of him. By March I was really excited to see him. You can see all the skills he has, even though he may not be that flashy he doesn’t need many chances with a little space to make a amazing play.

[@sheajarvis2624]

Can't wait for the review tonight 😁. Go Canucks Go.

[@BrendanP]

Pettersson has inspired the Canucks, hence the high scoring games. Good for Canucks as long as they win.

[@henriksedin112]

It's not even about the wins right now. It's about hope, and offensive minded hockey even with some losses is great.

[@dsrevo79]

No shit.. its embarrasing when u are outplayed bg a teenager

[@xMaximusDecimusx]

LOL at that shirt!! my man shannon!!!

[@stephenthornton8534]

it is appropriate that your t-shirt reads "tool"

[@wolferine2471]

No one expected Elias to be that good. I remember being disappointed that they didn't take Glass. Thank you Benning and the Canucks scouting staff.

[@ethans934]

Friedman had talk to some teams and they said if he played in Canada he would have gone one. Or if he had more weight it would have brought him up to 3

[@lojzek91]

Unrelated to the video, but I dig your Tool shirt!

[@DARK24-7]

Oh man Elias Pettersson is such a beast-looking forward to watching his career progress.

[@ryanstolz8049]

I always watch your draft!!

[@jaredparker689]

shannon don't worry man haters gonna hate - we don't watch you because you have a crystal ball, we watch you because you're a legend - 100k subs here you come

[@MagsinEH]

Nice shirt, Tool's my favorite band. Which comes first a leafs Stanley Cup final appearance or a new Tool album? 🤔

[@canadiencreative]

as much as i like watching/reading draft rankings, the lists NHL teams have are so much different. according to Friedman and Marek on the 31 thoughts podcast discussed how at least 1, possibly 2 teams, had Petterson ranked 1st overall. no one expected barret hayton at 5th this past draft, or Dubois at 3rd in 2016. this hockey prospect site seems to be as close as you can get so i’ll have to look into them, but really no one outside the NHL has any real idea on who’s going to go where

[@IzDawg813]

Boston losing confirmed. Let’s see if the curse of the “team gear worn during videos while a game is going on” hold true. Lol

[@kwright683]

I always think of Datsyuk, Daigle and now the recent history of the Edmonton Oilers picks when I hear people questioning how great or bad a drafted player is going to be. The visuals are known on how a player plays, but there are way too many intangibles that are not seen when dealing with players that age.

[@VancouverHouse91to94]

I love how some fans say it’s easy to look at a draft in hindsight and hindsight is 20/20. Well duh. That’s the only way to judge a draft. It takes about 4 to 5 years to judge a draft unless you’re getting a superstar at 1 or 2.

[@not2tees]

You were the hammer trying to saw the Pettersson plank, the saw that needed to drive home the Pettersson nail.

[@DickLongFlop14]

It’s great when people act like they aren’t using hindsight and “knew” that a player would be great

[@nneichan9353]

What if Jagr never took a hiatus from the NHL? What if Mario never had cancer, or had a healthy back? What if Lindros had no concussions? What if Crosby never got injured/concussed? What if.... No one can predict every variable.

[@MrBear1966]

Rumors are gradin pushed really hard to get Pettersson drafted and he was the one who bugged Benning about him

[@VillaiN1499]

I think fans just need to put less stock into draft media coverage because then you get fan bases that are upset for drafting a guy initially who is panning out to be the best in the draft. Fans aren't scouts and don't know what the actual teams think of the players, they just see what tsn, sportsnet, and other media outlets put out in rankings for them and so they don't get an accurate vision of the actual draft. Same thing in the 2018 draft when the Habs drafted Kotkaniemi and everyone was freaking out, and now he's made the team while Zadina is in the minors. Fans need to chill out at the draft and wait and see instead of calling for the GMs head at the draft table.

[@Diabolus1978]

You were not alone. There is a video on youtubers reacting to Canucks draft on pettersson and u are in there 2 u should try to watch it.

[@notmessa6289]

after Watching him playing first in Allsvenskan then in SHL i was sure that he was the right man to get Picked 5

[@guthriesturmey3863]

Hey Hockey Guy. I've been watching this channel for about a year and a half and it's been fun watching you get more comfortable and confident with your videos. If you don't mind I'd like to suggest a video topic that I would LOVE to hear your prospective on. You could ware a Capitals jersey with a tinfoil hat for this one. I would like to hear your thoughts on Alex Ovechkin quite clearly being a field agent for the KGB. Lets look at the facts. He's a super athlete, who has no problems getting physical with his oppents, much like an ideal KGB agent would be. He has played his entire NHL career in Washington, what better place for a KGB agent to play in? Despite reports that the Capitals should trade OV after each playoff loss they never did. Why? Was Lynn Leonsis get paid off by KGB alumni, Vladimir Putin? I don't know, but maybe. Also he plays in the same division as the Rangers, Devils and Islanders and who got arrested in NYC by the FBI in the summer of 2017? A bunch of Russian spies. Were these spies exchanging information with OV in the regular season? I can't say for sure that they were, but I also can't say for sure that they weren't either. And just why was OV soooo happy when he won the Stanley cup? Was it because he finally proved to everyone that he was a champion, that he played with heart, that he could lead a team to the top of the mountain, hights that he had never made it to in his professional career. OR was it because after all these years he finally was going to get access to the White House where he could plant bugs and take photo's of sensitive information. Think about it, the answer's clear as day. Anyway thanks for all the hard work you put into these videos. I hope at the very least this comment makes you smile

[@tobi6618]

Haha that's hilarious! Entertaining conspiracy theory :D

[@tylerkelly1625]

Kevin Bieksa on Matheson's body slam on Pettersson: "There should have at the very least been a threat. I used to threaten guys all the time, ‘I don’t care. I’ll pay the fine, and I’m going to break your nose. You’re going to have a broken nose by the end of the game.’"

[@Antigravityskateshop]

Fuck i miss him.

[@brandonnarayan5796]

What is the book on Juolevi? I haven’t heard anything about him.

[@timothytoolman927]

He's allowed a few short-handed goals down here in Utica.

[@45crisess]

As a canucks fan I was upset we didn't draft Vilardi. I hadn't even heard of Pettersson at the time lol

[@Yoshyoshbgosh]

I don't listen to Tool but their drummer is one of the best.

[@rjf7023]

Two more points last night for Juolevi - 13 points in 16 games and tied for leading his team. All from a 20 year old Defense man. You should do a video on him,

[@daydaviddunn]

How do the come up with these ranks just what the see on the iceOr are there interviews...i'll point you to hosang

[@skateordiedev]

I remember watching that draft with my dad and we were pretty shocked at the pick, i had no idea who he was at the time and we both had the same thing in mind, like "here we go again with another soft swede." So I hope no ones blaming you for that lol

[@samuelpettersson3694]

Greatest Hockey players com from Sweden , and we have many more here in Sweden ,,, Remember who is World champion , Not Usa or Canada

[@sleevelessace]

the one good move our gm made other then hughes lol i couldnt imagine our team without those 2 .... i hope they both stay for a long time, i have a feeling petey will, swedes have the history of been super loyal to our city not sure why but im not complaining n im sure rutherford told hank n danny to give petey "the talk" LOL

[@donnamaclaren7934]

Like your shirt Shannon.

[@chrisnivo]

I keep hearing two NHL teams had Pettersson ranked at number 1, anyone know who those teams are?

[@andrewruggiero1735]

I hated the makar pick now after 2 years and watching him in the ncaa, I love the makar pick now, funny how that works

[@havardmoen6423]

Great shirt

[@Sam-2468]

I wasn’t disappointed with the pick but I must say I didn’t do as much research as you. Saw videos and he looked pretty darn good though

[@rizflash]

As a Canucks fan my reaction after they drafted him was “wtf”. I expected them to draft either glass or valardi

[@ZachBonnell]

Go watch Kotkaniemi being drafted and see the look on the face of that random woman in a Habs jersey. And we all know about McGuire's reaction to Price being drafted.

[@CookiePhil]

Kotkaniemi hasnt proved anything

[@ZachBonnell]

​@@CookiePhil None of these kids have proved anything until they play their career out.

[@CookiePhil]

@@ZachBonnell you kind of inferred that Kotkaniemi would be a good pick

[@ZachBonnell]

@@CookiePhil Today he is a much more promising pick than what some Habs fans thought he would be.

[@Innersea]

The random women in the Habs jersey was apparently Filip Zadina's billet parents, which would explain a bit.

[@james_hky4874]

This kid is a LEGEND!!

[@rhinosity]

All that matters is that he is a great player!

[@carlton3741]

My prediction before the draft was that the Canucks were either going for Mittlestadt or Pettersson or Glass. Draft picks 4 through 10 were interchangeable so seeing Pettersson (rated at #8) was understandable. If Benning never got Dahlen for Burrows i would never have guessed Pettersson. And with the video the Benning getting excited over Pettersson during the draft you can tell that he scouted the hell out of him. But, i never would've guessed that he'd break records in the SHL and NHL.. I thought a 1st line center was pushing it

[@holdenkenne]

Nice shirt Shannon

[@seansaville5664]

Love the shirt

[@Bengha2011]

:-) Could you do a similiar reaction to drafting Alexander Holtz...he is also a swede :-)

[@pearldrums92]

Big of you to post this. Now do the Ovechkin is not Generation and Malkin is redact video. Just rattling your cage- Love all the content. My #1 source of Hockey news

[@TheHockeyGuy]

I will never discuss generational players vs franchise players again.

[@jimmybergstrom4465]

Hi, I'm nobody. I was 100% sure that Vancouver had their hands on 2018/19 calder trophy winner. Already in May/june 2018.

[@ssboooy4153]

Watching some of your old vids, Shannon, at it shows you’ve lost a lot of weight. Great job!

[@mrjohnsen3101]

I got on the train before late last season cause I live in Sweden. And Petterson was 🔥🔥 all season for the Lakers

[@zilvertron]

In a team that was already good enough to have you on the ice and still win games

[@jeremyruch5095]

How about those Canucks putting up 8 against Boston and Pettersson doesn't even get a goal?!?

[@jasmeg2844]

Had another assist though, plus a sick saucer pass which eventually led to Hutton's goal. Now officially outscoring Matthews in as many games.

[@brettkaufman6686]

why is the first half of this video reading other people's draft rankings?

[@willholden6273]

Ahaha u wore this same shirt in his draft

[@anusanrajaratnam2002]

Now he's right about Pettersson

[@siwash99]

And now, 8 months later we have added grit and toughness in free agency...almost as if there is a plan in place

[@STEPHENisSTEPHEN]

Why did Veleno drop ?

[@timothytoolman927]

Nice tee-shirt , "Tool" is my nickname.

[@theomega311]

I don’t blame you Shannon, the Preds drafted his brother Emil and it took him 4 years to even jump over, now he doesn’t great in Milwaukee but he’s trade bait for scoring depth. You might still be right I mean he’s so small be could end up Bured with injuries

[@stinkburger1761]

I remember I wanted Glass....I am now eating crow.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

Glass still looks good. I don't believe we are far enough out from the 2017 draft to know for sure who is or isn't an NHL player.

[@thunderhawk3kca]

Canucks already drafted a guy with a back issue in the past in the top 10, Cody Hodgson? Anyone where is he now?

[@wellyforpm]

we live in the same town and we have the same shirt.....

[@robinvikstrom9763]

What people either forget or don't know is that Pettersson was a dominant player as a 17/18 year old in the Swedish tier 2 league, playing against professional men despite his size. You don't dominate that league at that age without exceptional talent. Since 2011/2012, only one other U19 player has had more points than Pettersson in this league during a season and that's William Karlsson. Pettersson clocked in at 41P in 43GP, and Karlsson at 45 in 46GP. Also, for comparison, William Nylander had 27 points in 35GP as U19 and Filip Forsberg had 33 pts in 38 GP as an U19 player.

[@Martin-re8ei]

We need a EP40 video 2023

[@pistbi5721]

Im swedish and I did see all the matches Elias played in the swedish elite series and What I saw was amazing, he was the only reason for that team winning the title and he made the most points before the playoffs, and he was only 18, the swedish elite series are hard!!!!! Playing among super skilled players, and people are amazed that he was picked up early in the draft? I dont get it

[@tylerstevens1904]

4:54 nice sarcasm lol.

[@Billygeee31]

Well, now you are wro... Ohh, a Tool-shirt? Hello, my friend

[@dalamian]

Size is always going to be a thing it's one of the things you can't teach. As good as petterson has been he needs to be more skilled than guys who are bigger and stronger than him to overcome his slight frame. Size can sometimes make up for being less skilled, by just being harder to knock off the puck or push you out of position. If you have a battle for a puck in the corner who would you rather in there. Pettersson or Boeser/Horvat

[@lowdown2001]

the t-shirt says it all.

[@nathanielnot4u]

lmao the tool shirt

[@Cruxvae]

I was very high on Pettersson in 2017, so I get to pat myself on the back for that. Unfortunately, I was also very low on Cale Makar, so....

[@bretthughes8679]

This guy is missing one key fact. CDC before the draft had a poll The 2 highest picks were Miro and EP. There are tons of Nuck fans who are aware of more than just the CHL. In fact, I prefer looking at the Euro leagues and the USNDP now, more than the CHL. I for one had EP #1. and if you are on CDC you can look under bp79 to find my quote on that.

[@evantyoung8033]

It’s okay. There were several teams at the top of the draft who underestimated Pettersson as well. Though, I will say, I’m not at all unhappy with Nolan Patrick. He’s been very good since about the halfway point of last season. He’s been excellent in developing a two way game and becoming a quality faceoff guy in a short period. And I’m sure New Jersey and their fans feel the same way with Hischier. The Stars have to ecstatic with Heiskanen, who looks like a stud. Colorado is the one team in front who may be seriously regretting skipping Pettersson... but Makkar has a very high ceiling. Either way, Canucks fans have to be jumping for joy knowing that they have three building blocks up front with Boeser, Pettersson and Horvat.