Remote ID FAA Update Sept 2, 2023

[@Yankee2003]

Killing it Tim! Nothing like taking the issue straight to the source. Excellent work. Thank you for the video. Have a great holiday weekend.

[@TimMcKay56]

Same to you!! Tim

[@slapdat.byteme]

If RID implementation gets delayed, I’m gonna be disappointed at having to put my criminal RC piloting career on hold.

[@TimMcKay56]

Boom!

[@ericapelz260]

Let's be honest: the FAA played the AMA like a fiddle. FRIAs were a strawman to keep the AMA from fighting them on RID. Their plan is that FRIAs will go away, and every flying model more complicated than a kite will have RID.

[@TimMcKay56]

FRIAs will be around for a long, long time. I have a video coming out on this. Just my personal thoughts. Tim

[@modquad18]

One could successfully argue that the reverse is actually true. But I get it, some will never be happy, no matter what (we’ll keep you in our prayers tho). Happy flying!

[@TimMcKay56]

@@modquad18 Thanks!!

[@kf4293]

Wow... My position as the resident cynic has been usurped! 😂

[@chuckcampbell3927]

@@kf4293 But you're right

[@rickh4310]

People who fly in very remote areas with no airports in the vicinity really don’t care anyway. I will fly as I always have, without remote ID.

[@TimMcKay56]

Copy

[@stevecarlson1616]

As someone who grew up building and flying RC aircraft its absolutely people like you and the AMA who are responsible for this and making excuses for this government overreach isn't helpful. Take a real stance instead of excusing away this BS.

[@TimMcKay56]

Boom!! 😳🙀😁 Tim

[@JDDupuy]

I have direct contact with someone up a little higher in the FAA Food Chain. You cannot implement a requirement without the required hardware being available. No coordination between the FAA and Industry to get these RID Modules available. In my 20 year career in the AF, I dealt with this nonsense with contractors all the time. As far as your statement about drones being manufacturer with RID, just got a new one in the mail today, no RID. So "China is Not" implementing squat across the board. DJI yes but the racing, freestyle quads it ain't happening. Thanks for your update.......!

[@TimMcKay56]

Thanks for the update! Tim

[@sUASNews]

DJI wanted RID and their airframes can comply

[@felixruiz2838]

Grace PERIOD !!! 😂😂😂😂 permanently !! 😂😂 Thanks for new info again . Nice Labor day weekend !!!

[@xjet]

Why do Americans accept this level of incompetence from their airspace regulator (or any tax-funded agency)? The FAA's primary role (at which they should be experts) is to create and enforce the regulations that will make the USA the safest and most efficient airspace in the world. Epic FAIL! If they can't even manage their primary role properly (ie: not specifying the standard for compliance until just weeks before the first part of the RID rule came into effect in 2022 and then not giving industry enough time to fill the supply-chain with RID modules by 2023) then they lose the respect of those they regulate. Compliance is by consent and compliance requires respect. The FAA has lost that respect within the ranks of a fairly large chunk of the RC/drone community. When the FAA screws up they play the "get out of jail free" card but when an RC/drone flyer screws up they risk huge fines and other penalties. Unacceptable IMHO.

[@TimMcKay56]

Xjet: Whatever. Getting back to the real world, for at least a moment. The FAA's job, at the end of the day, is to offer the world's most safe and efficient aerospace system. Not do everything on some exact schedule that was written three years ago, not to never, ever make a mistake, etc. And the results speak for itself: Zero commercial air fatalities in the US since 2009, over 14 years. As a former B-777F pilot, that is a remarkable accomplishment we should all rightly take pride in. There is an awful lot that can go wrong with international commercial airline operations. Note that general aviation has around 250 aircraft crashes a year. This drives the FAA bonkers (as they are the same accidents repeated since Charles Lindberg took to the skies), but GA pilots "want their freedom." And do not even get me started on the Part 103 ultralight accident rates. Grotesque. Every large organization has priorities. For the FAA, wrestling with tasks like the latest Space X launch clearance and the certification of the B-777-8, etc. RID is fairly low. I am certain there will be a grace period for compliance after Sept 16th, and this is the right and proper thing to do. Note that if a delay is offered, the earth still rotates around the sun, etc. Tim

[@xjet]

@@TimMcKay56 Zero commercial air fatalities in the US since 2009? What about the number of charter flights and other people who have died during "commercial" flight operations -- and there are *plenty* of them. Then there's the Boeing 737 Max 8 fiasco. Although the hundreds who died did not do so on jets run by US carriers, the FAA has oversight of Boeing and made the very poor decision to allow self-certification by that company. The FAA is not as great as you would make out. Then there are the number of fatals resulting from mid-air collisions between manned aircraft in the USA -- a totally unacceptable number when compared to our RC/drone death toll. Yet strangely enough, even though *all* RC craft 250g+ and not flown in a FRIA are now required to have RID but ADSB is not mandatory on these GA craft that keep crashing into each other with unacceptable regularity? I can design, build and fly an ultralight without any kind of knowledge test, without registration and without any form of electronic conspicuity -- but if I build a 250g RC model of the exact same craft and want to fly it outside a FRIA -- all of those things are required. The FAA is failing often and agregiously when it comes to their attempts to deliver good regulation for the hobby as well as their inability to address the real risks (self-certification, no mandatory ADSB and no licensing/registration of ultralights) of manned aviation. I know you're a defender of the FAA but do not be blinded to the reality of the situation.

[@TimMcKay56]

@xjet Remote ID is such a minor event in the grand scheme of things. But on the other hand, if RID is all that we have to worry about, we are in a pretty good place! 😳🙀😊 Tim

[@xjet]

@@TimMcKay56 I would agree... if broadcast RID wasn't simply the precursor to Network RID and the inevitability of "pay to fly". The airspace we've been using for free until now (0-400ft) has, in the eyes of some powerful corporations, become far too valuable to allow hobbyists to use it for free. Remember back during the discussions that ultimately resulted in the revocation of S336 that the Commercial Drone Alliance made it very clear that they saw no room for our hobby in *their* skies. Subsiquent regulation has been edging us towards that end-game ever since and the FAA's Remote ID NPRM remains the blueprint for the future. As I've said before, do a search for "at this time" in that final rule to see the clear intent to implement almost every aspect of that NPRM as soon as the technology allows.

[@SkyborneVisions]

@@xjet Bravo xjet! I'd say up until the last decade or so, the FAA was one of the few Federal agencies that actually took a decent and reasonable balance between safety and totalitarianism, run by people with some personal interest in the field they regulated--with a pretty good safety record adopted my many countries around the world. But like everywhere else now, we're run by an idiocracy, thanks in part to people attracted to power over others, and the hiring "diversity" of people who are only working there because of the color of their privates and what they do with said privates; and 1) don't know anything about the industry (especially drones); and 2) could care less about those operating in the industry or have any personal interest in aviation itself Our country (USA) is not run by those we elect but by life-long unelected Bureaucrats who don't care about us peasants that they rule over with impunity and no oversight, unless "nudged" by gifts or promises by lobbyist with deep pockets.... or blackmailed or (family members threatened) into enacting policies by the FBI or CIA (who are also unelected); and get to classify their malfeasance as "Top Secret"--but I digress...

[@doctorditman]

Excellent presentation. Thank you! I will stay tuned.

[@TimMcKay56]

Great! Tim

[@pacmag951]

Tim, thank you for the update, I sent you a message on this subject yesterday. We all really appreciate your diligent efforts on this matter.

[@TimMcKay56]

Thanks again! Tim

[@sparkey044]

Field is not approved, but I can still there with a id module. Does the module make it safer to fly there? This is nonsense.

[@TimMcKay56]

Yes, is confusing. Tim

[@craighermle7727]

Thanks, Tim!. I submitted a question to the FAA on AUGUST 10, 2023 about grace periods for broadcast RID modules,107 operations with legacy drones, and back-ordered broadcast RID modules from approved FAA manufacturers. I indicated that I was trying to comply with the ruling but may be unable to do so because the RID modules were back-ordered. I also provided correspondence from the RID manufacturer to support my back-order claim. I effectively received the same "stay tuned" response.

[@TimMcKay56]

😊👍🏻 Tim

[@tonyledford7941]

Thanks Tim. Great job of keeping us informed !!

[@TimMcKay56]

My pleasure!!

[@georgekelly1948]

You are my hotline for the latest. Thanks, Tim.

[@TimMcKay56]

No worries, thanks for checking in! Tim

[@marinrealestatephotography]

Again, it would be great if it one could use a phone app (like Aloft, which already works with the FAA's controlled airspace LAANC system), and one could just "broadcast" their plane and pilot details, the location they will be flying in, and the time period they will be flying. I mean, the LAANC system shows that the FAA can work with private industry and come up with something that is very convenient: it literally only takes a couple of seconds to get approval for low-altitude drone flights in controlled airspace.

[@TimMcKay56]

This is a very first step in a long technical journey. Tim

[@crystalclearwindowcleaning3458]

Thanks for getting the info direct from the FAA. Of course, they've known the modules won't be ready in time and the FRIAs are way behind for some time. There is no reason they haven't already announced a grace period or a date change. Come on FAA, get on the stick!

[@TimMcKay56]

Copy!

[@fastdude2002]

I’m still trying to find an affordable option for my DJI Mavic Pro. I don’t like the Spektrum module because I would have to strap an external battery to my Mavic. I need one with a built in battery and affordable

[@flyinghorsedrone5376]

Tim, really appreciate what you do and trying to keep all informed of very important information. thank you for what you do!

[@TimMcKay56]

I appreciate that!

[@robertklement5811]

Thanks for trying to find out what’s going on with FAA

[@TimMcKay56]

Thanks for checking in! Tim

[@sankaranramanarayanan6878]

Thank you for breaking things down so well, in a time of alot of anxiety and confusion. 1) I'm having trouble finding a list of approved FRIAs. Is there an official list? 2) Do you envision that there will ever be FRIAs not tied to for-profit organizations? I can imagine that schools, colleges and clubs will jump at the opportunity to charge for permission to fly at their FRIAs in the future, but will we ever have back the freedom to fly for educational and recreational purposes at sites close to home, exercising our own judgement in terms of safety?

[@TimMcKay56]

There is no list of approved FRIAs now. They will eventually be shown on the FAA's "UAS Data Delivery System" interactive map. The concept of a Community Based Organization is a big thing if the FAA/Congressional view. Spelled out in IRS documents, etc. Right now four CBOs for RID, but I am sure more educational institutions can get there if they apply. Tim

[@6StringPassion.]

Nice work. It's far simpler to get accurate and up-to-date information from you than it is using a KZbin search or the FAA's oddly non-intuitive website.

[@TimMcKay56]

Thanks, we’ll get there!! Tim

[@Paiadakine]

I send the FAA question and they usually respond in a day.

[@gordonmckay4523]

@@Paiadakine Thanks!

[@6StringPassion.]

@@joozdontlikethetruth6165 FAA Groan Zone

[@ednafronkelbarger8601]

As someone who has implemented Constituent Management Relations systems for governmental agencies, what you got is a standardized response which has been approved at that 4 star level. It's a fact of life that people will call and email any and every office and person they can think of to ask the same question over and over, until they find somebody who will give them the answer they wanted in the first place. That way, they could ignore the first 27 answers they got and say, "Hey, I was given this official response from Mildred, the account clerk who answers the phones while everyone else was out to lunch." And that's why the system will also record the fact that the person contacted X entity and was given Y answer, so the next person who gets contacted knows the history and that the person is just fishing. So, the next person who gets called can respond, "I see that X told you (answer Y) on such and such date. Is there anything else you need to know about the topic?" Obviously, you're the exact opposite of that kind of person, which is why you're such an excellent source of information.

[@TimMcKay56]

Thanks for checking in! Tim

[@triskellian]

Thanks again Tim for the update. I heard the same thing as many others about a rollback but no official word from the FAA. They've done this before for various reasons. I'll site the integration of ADSB transponders during the NextGen project for air traffic control a while back. If I remember correctly there were delays with that as well. In the meantime, it's time to put some models in the air and fly in gentle circles! ✈✈🛫🛫

[@TimMcKay56]

Thanks for checking in! Tim

[@BTf337]

There were no delays conceded by the FAA about ADS-B.

[@itsnessen]

Best info yet on the extension rumor. Thanks for putting these videos out!

[@TimMcKay56]

No problem!

[@TedB1800]

Thank you very much, Tim(and Steve). I was about to do the same as you did by emailing the FAA and copying Tyler Dobbs at the AMA, but, thought I'd wait 'till next Tuesday. I saw that claim on another site that RID had been "canceled" and wanted to try to verify that statement, but, you beat me to it. I'll be looking to you for further updates.

[@TimMcKay56]

No worries! Tim

[@kf4293]

Yah, I hadn't even watched one of those. I might watch Ken Heron's, since it's probably tongue in cheek.

[@dadoo64]

Thanks for the inquiry Tim. Like so many others I was getting nervous about the Sept 16th date. Especially since we are hosting a fun fly/swap meet on that date. Thankfully, our FRIA notice came in approved 2 days ago. Even though our field is now FRIA, I still ordered up a SKY ID from Spektrum because I like the telemetry I'll get back from it on my NX8 radio. Keep up the great work you do. Much appreciated.

[@TimMcKay56]

No worries, thanks for checking in! Tim

[@kerrymayden4802]

Thankyou Tim for the great info i have watched many of your post s and have learned so much .i fly in a fria in missouri and think the remote id will work itself out in time.its a great hobby and all those who fly uderstand the Faa position and the task at hand for the safety for all.thanks again.

[@TimMcKay56]

Kerry: Agree 100%, thanks for checking in! Tim

[@tomsvircev1716]

Great update! Thanks. I fly at a one of the AMA sites that was denied our FRIA. Hoping it can get worked out with a risk management assessment, but in the meanwhile, waiting for my SkyID module, and still have my UMX planes like the Pitts on your bench. (One of my favorites.)

[@TimMcKay56]

Good luck! Tim

[@flyingweed9671]

If your FRIA is not approved (because of a hazard to the public) you can simply fit RID and keep flying? These RID things must be very special if they can eliminate hazards. What a load of bollocks.

[@TimMcKay56]

😊👍🏻 Tim

[@FPVMystique]

Thank you, Tim.

[@TimMcKay56]

😊👍🏻 Tim

[@staticguy5554]

My fundamental problem is the world changed and I did not in so many ways. At age 74 I would like to live my remaining years unencumbered by endless government regulations controlling my behavior. I know the rules I grew up under. My nearest FRIA, don’t know if approved, is 30 minutes away, IMO too small with wooded flyover area. I live 5 minutes away from wide open spaces flying field. Compliance?

[@TimMcKay56]

Your choice! Tim

[@modquad18]

Thanks Tim! What a great time to be alive 🇺🇸

[@TimMcKay56]

Got that right!! Tim

[@user-ih4oh7gy6x]

Thank you sir, Have a great weekend

[@TimMcKay56]

Same to you

[@airhammer6203]

Thanks Tim for some concrete facts about all this stuff.

[@TimMcKay56]

Thanks for checking in! Tim

[@FredHarvey-wp2qy]

It blows my mind that the FAA says the RID is for safety! That is NOT the motivation! If a FRIA is denied because of structures, roads or gathering places for people, then it follows that it is not ever safe to fly there! Adding a RID module does not suddenly enhance the safety for the people on the ground. A much better plan would be to have No Fly zones. These already exist for busy airports, sports arenas, etc. Make everything else a FRIA. Stay below 400 feet AGL and go fly whatever you got.

[@TimMcKay56]

I'm doing a lot of research on this. RID is really not for safety, more for security. The 490 RID Final Rule takes a while to read! Tim

[@shadowofchaos8932]

1 hour and 15 minutes reply for an official, stay tuned, is incredible for the government agency. The fact it wasn't a hard 16th start date, no exceptions, response is a big deal. Rumors are definitely are getting stronger support with that email.

[@TimMcKay56]

It just takes time to get this internally coordinated within the FAA. This is a big deal. Tim

[@shadowofchaos8932]

@TimMcKay56 I guess the next question is, whom inside of the FAA knows Ken and JB?

[@danferrel9612]

I appreciate you keeping us informed.

[@TimMcKay56]

No worries! Tim

[@jaybird4610]

Thank you

[@TimMcKay56]

😊👍🏻 Tim

[@paulg9042]

Thank you! I commented on the video you mentioned "what's the source". Another 'trusted' drone youtuber did his own citing that original one. At least you did real homework and provided real information. Thank you for keeping the world honest!

[@TimMcKay56]

Thanks for tuning in! Tim

[@beachlover9108]

You don't have to repeat all the information about Remote ID every update video. Just refer viewers to your earlier videos for the details.

[@TimMcKay56]

Copy!

[@robc5296]

Great work, thank you for the latest official word. It only makes sense that there will be a grace period for those that "can't" yet comply. Luckily my club field has gotten FRIA approval, but I would still like to fly off of lakes and frozen lakes in the future. Looking forward to the set up and review of your Spectrum module once you receive it.

[@TimMcKay56]

Will do! Tim

[@scottrrichardson5506]

Tim, I really appreciate the update, flying RC Aircraft is my escape in this crazy world and it's important to me. It's worrisome that there are so many FRIAs still under review two weeks out. Even though I'm a park flyer, I'm still concerned. Keep up the good work, there are surprisingly few sources of updated information as we approach Sept. 16. Thx Scott

[@TimMcKay56]

Scott: Fully agree . . . time to enjoy a great hobby! Tim

[@keithstalder9770]

Invaluable Tim, many thanks!

[@TimMcKay56]

😊👍🏻 Tim

[@dronebuzz]

Entrepreneurs must always remain nimble and dynamic. We are all set - no matter when the FAA says, "When." Thanks for the coverage Tim! Be well! ;-) T

[@TimMcKay56]

Fully agree! Tim

[@sjorlando7282]

Myy Phantom 3 Pro doesnt have it built in... and good luck getting a module. So Ill keep flying as is.

[@TimMcKay56]

👍🏻

[@user-cb3cj7lo8g]

Hopefully these new rid modules will not cause interference with our flight systems

[@TimMcKay56]

I do not think so. Bluetooth and GPS lock on. Tim

[@wwjoesr]

Thanks for the update!

[@TimMcKay56]

You bet!

[@joshcook2681]

Thank you for your videos!

[@TimMcKay56]

Anytime! Tim

[@jeffvoigt3501]

Fresh accurate content. Thank you.

[@TimMcKay56]

😊👍🏻 Tim

[@drink__more__water]

There has to be a good chunk of people that don't care about keeping up with the hobby and the news around it. There's going to be so many unknowingly illegal fliers...

[@TimMcKay56]

Yup. Tim

[@The_Privateer]

I heard on the internet that if you wrap the remote ID module in aluminum foil it makes it work better!!

[@TimMcKay56]

😊👍🏻 Tim

[@pi.actual]

You can't blame the FAA for the lack of RID modules that is free enterprise and the drone community has been very loudly declaring for the past two years that they aren't going to buy them or comply with the rule so why would anyone want to build them?

[@TimMcKay56]

👍🏻

[@GrauFPV]

The faa can kick rocks and anyone who abides by RID, then you’re a chump

[@loach392]

Serious government overreach. The AMA should have filed a 2 billion dollar lawsuit to pay modelers for the stress. The FAA needs to be disbanded along with most other 3 letter agency's for overstepping their authority. They forgot who they work for.

[@TimMcKay56]

Well, that would be an original approach! Tim

[@gregoryl.4872]

Appreciate the update Tim.

[@TimMcKay56]

😊👍🏻 Tim

[@dronepilot260rc]

Thanks for the informative videos! 🎉

[@TimMcKay56]

Glad you like them!

[@jeffvoigt3501]

Thanks!

[@TimMcKay56]

Jeff: Don’t fuss about me, my wife says Thank You! 😊 Tim

[@Vic9244]

I'm not seeing your SkyID affiliate link...?

[@TimMcKay56]

No link, as I am not sponsored by Horizon Hobby. Purchased my own SkyID. 😁 Tim

[@frankmoreau8847]

The FAA FRIA map shows a total of 234 sites. Where is there a list of FRIAs

[@TimMcKay56]

There is no FRIA list that I know of. May be one after RID starts. Tim

[@johnbrittingham4471]

Just get the part107 certificate and get a drone with remote id. It's absolutely painless. I have been flying a compliant drone for three months.

[@TimMcKay56]

Agree!! Tim

[@RebelByNature]

I hear this a lot but fail to understand the motivation. Not even sure I understand the nexus with the 107 certificate other than if you fly under it you are (will be) required to use RID. You don't need the 107 to fly recreationally, legally or responsibly. So why suggest people spend the time and money getting a 107 if they are just going to be recreationally flying? Just do it is seldom if ever a convincing argument.

[@TimMcKay56]

Congrats!

[@WestVirginiasBigred271]

A lot of people are saying that The remote ID is not starting on September 16th that it has been delayed until further notice. Apparently companies can’t prudence the module fast enough. Either way most pilots will fly illegally. Most people can’t afford the module.

[@TimMcKay56]

Sept 16 date most likely will be delayed. Tim

[@petenick7829]

The flying club I belong to submitted a FRIA application in January 2023. Nowhere on the application did it ask for an exact map with borders delineating the exact area over which we would be flying. Our initial application was rejected because such area was not delineated. HAD WE BEEN ASKED FOR A MAP WITH BORDERS DESCRIBING EXACTLY WHERE WE WOULD AND WOULD NOT FLY, WE WOULD HAVE SUBMITTED THIS IN OUR ORIGINAL APPLICATION. WE WERE NOT ASKED FOR SUCH A MAP. So, in July of 2023, we resubmitted our FRIA application complete with map and borders demonstrating that we would not overfly parking areas, buildings, structures and people and a lengthy written description describing the same. But the FAA works at government speed. No doubt it is behind schedule.

[@TimMcKay56]

Check with the AMA. They know more than anyone the ins and outs of FRIA application process. Tim

[@petenick7829]

The AMA is the organization which sent out the original FRIA applications. Nowhere did the application ask for a map of the flying site with a designated border. Had the application asked for this, we would have supplied it with our original FRIA application back in January. @@TimMcKay56

[@glenwhatley7366]

So now, the nee remote id enforcemnent date is March 16, 2024. You're welcome Tim. Ken Heron had an inside source that told him it was going to be pushed back again, he just didn't have a date.

[@TimMcKay56]

Copy! Tim

[@TimMcKay56]

Copy! Tim

[@micsherwood4930]

Does ANYONE know why Tower Hobbies is not shipping orders of the Spekrum Module?

[@TimMcKay56]

I think it is everyone, likely production issue. I ordered mine from Horizon Hobby on Aug 25, not arrived yet. Tim

[@MrRV7A]

Why don't fixed wing ARF's or Heli's from Horizon Hobby have Standard Remote ID built in? I thought they had to comply last year.

[@TimMcKay56]

Just the way the regulation is written. If anything is "missing" from the drone/RC plane purchase (battery, charger, etc.) RID does not need to be built in. I am still researching this, video to follow. Tim

[@MrRV7A]

Thank you Tim@@TimMcKay56

[@justinanderson454]

Great work on this and I appreciate the update! I also received the same response on august 16 when I requested similar clarity on “chatter I have heard” regarding the 9/16/23 deadline. Unfortunately the market share that DJI has garnered for commercial UAS operators has hamstrung many in this situation due to there firmware update delays. DJI now states by the end of 12/31/23 they will have many of there legacy drones meeting the RID requirements.

[@TimMcKay56]

Thanks! Tim

[@nateteator3901]

I'm hopeful that the RC aircraft Market will grow in spite of the new rules coming out. Best-case scenario is that the government gets its poor performing surveillance system that checks the box for "Safety and Security". Pilots who are not using the RC aircraft to do harm will have a radio beacon to help them find their own drone in tall grass or a tree branch.

[@TimMcKay56]

This will work out. Social media gets folks spun up. Tim

[@mikekreen9336]

I have 1,612 acres of mixed land, crops, and livestock. I use a drone to check the livestock and fences. So what about flying on and over my own property? Why do I need remote ID for that?

[@TimMcKay56]

For RID to work everyone needs to participate. Tim

[@mikekreen9336]

Not understanding that, guess I'm not too tech savvy. So, unless the FAA jams my GPS system with an update, I'm not purchasing anything extra for something I don't need. @@TimMcKay56

[@donclark8673]

I really think the FAA should spend their time dealing with problems with full scale aircraft and not worry about us retired old men playing with toy airplanes

[@TimMcKay56]

Copy!

[@c123bthunderpig]

Reminds me of IFF in the old days

[@TimMcKay56]

😊👍🏻 Tim

[@eTexNerd]

RemoteID is supposed to transmit the controller's Lat/Lon/Alt also, right? How is an add-on module supposed to ascertain that if the transmitter (controller) does not have GPS? I'm thinking about basic radio controllers like RadioMaster and such, running EdgeTX in general, and communicating on OMP or F-SFHSS to operate RC Helis in particular.

[@TimMcKay56]

I believe standard RID uses GPS. I know the SkyID module uses GPS as well. Tim

[@eTexNerd]

@@TimMcKay56 Kindly allow me to rephrase: While an add-on remote-ID module may have a GPS receiver, and broadcast the model's GPS coordinates, if the remote controller in your hands does NOT have a GPS receiver to determine your position on the ground, and transmit it to the Remote-ID module (which in-turn broadcasts the controller's coordinates), how can anyone with such a controller (again, with no on-board GPS, or transmission of your coordinates) possibly be in compliance with Remote-ID? Or am I simply mis-reading the FAA's website that says the RemoteID must also broadcast "Control station location and elevation" in addition to the model's location, altitude, velocity and serial number?

[@TimMcKay56]

@@eTexNerd Apologies, I just don’t know enough on these new systems to give you a good answer. Tim

[@GhostRyderFPV]

@2:32 -AMA- FAA has approved 700 FRIAs But I am curious how many fields the AMA represented, versus the other CBO's, and what the go/no-go rate was for each was? Do you know if this information is public, Tim? Also, from another interested in this topic, thank you for reaching out directly, and being _the one with the receipts._ Versus, of course, a guy with a huge following an _"... an un-named source." Mind blowing...

[@TimMcKay56]

GR: Yes, the internet is an amazing place : ) No idea on how the other three CBOs are faring. I do know that Flite Test did not get their FRIA approved. No details but a lot of people are freaking out. Tim

[@TimMcKay56]

And, the AMA has around 2,500 RC fields. 1,800 or so have submitted FRIA applications. Tim

[@GhostRyderFPV]

@@TimMcKay56 _"freaking out"_ my time in the Navy didn't prepare me for the language, lol

[@TimMcKay56]

@@GhostRyderFPV Nor my 27 years in USAF. 😳🙀😊👍🏻 Tim

[@modquad18]

Took a look at Flight Test’s field and facilities and I can imagine why their FRIA was denied. It’s mixed in with a golf course, an RV camping area and primitive camp sites, which are not no-fly zones. Also ringed by a fair number of residential properties and at least one business. It would be helpful to know the parameters that the FAA uses to determine suitable locations. Perhaps in their case, some boundary adjustments might get them there??

[@dave1ahc]

thank you for that great video I noticed something interesting that I didn't catch in preceding videos you stated a weight limit that if it didn't reach a certain weight limit it was required to have remote ID. Can you expand on that I do have a license to fly commercially but my unit is actually under the weight limit so since I'm flying commercial he would I still need to put the remote ID on their irresponsibly greatly appreciated!

[@burtpanzer]

If it's under the limit, I don't think it matters if it's commercial.

[@dave1ahc]

@@burtpanzer That's good news because I was fretting on whether or not I was gonna have to buy a whole new drone or not

[@TimMcKay56]

All Part 107 need RID regardless of weight. Tim

[@jcradford1]

Now two days later, I got the same response. Usual govt incompetence, and follow the money.

[@TimMcKay56]

😊👍🏻

[@TheGulang]

Genuine question, who’s really going to enforce it? FAA angents driving around like police looking for model airplanes in the air?

[@TimMcKay56]

I have a video on this. If you stay our of trouble (don't crash into a police cruiser, do anything dumb) you should be in pretty good shape. If, for whatever reason the FAA wants to throw the book at you (usually multiple involvements interfering with manned aircraft), the regs allow then to do this to you. Tim

[@rwedel738]

The spectrum has the module. Will it work for all brands or only Spectrum?

[@TimMcKay56]

All brands, just needs power. Tim

[@kellyklaask7su990]

So I just now watched another video of Ken Heron that the Sept. 16th date has been cancelled with no new date announced yet although the feeling was it would be in December.

[@TimMcKay56]

That is just not correct. If you watched my video, the FAA said on a Friday night that the Sept 16 date is still there, but the FAA understands the issues and to stay tuned for developments. It is Monday on the Labor Day weekend, the FAA is not even at work since the Sept 2 e-mail was sent out. Tim

[@linzenmeyer]

So, word from the FAA actually, is that compliance is getting pushed back to december sometime because the RID modules ARENT as cheap as they thought they would be and manufacturers dont have enough/cant build them fast enough. Also, FRIAs arent really going to be a thing, you have to be an organization to request a FRIA and even then they are getting denied or are set up only temporarily for racing events. The cheapest RID I have found runs $105 after tax and shipping and they are so back logged, they arent shipping until the end of September.

[@TimMcKay56]

Negatory on the FRIAs. Around 750 already approved, lots more to follow. Good for four years. Tim

[@mattalford3932]

Basically, he said yes, it's going to be extended, but we don't know for how long.

[@TimMcKay56]

That's what I heard! 😁 Tim

[@airadaimagery692]

RID will be required for recreational model craft/Drone pilots, as well as commercial pilots.

[@TimMcKay56]

No RID needed for recreational flyers with drones that weigh less than 250 grams. Tim

[@airadaimagery692]

@@TimMcKay56 RID is required for BOTH recreational AND commercial pilots alike... In the beginning of your video, you stated RID will be required for recreational flyers, and you left it at that... As if excluding commercial flyers. I’m just trying to make that clear.

[@TimMcKay56]

@@airadaimagery692 Fully agree. My channel is focused on the recreational RC pilot who often is not aware of various rules. I am assuming Part 107 pilots know these things. Tim

[@airadaimagery692]

@@TimMcKay56 and you would be correct. But there are the ones who are just researching., and clear information does help. Even as a 107 pilot, your videos can be helpful, and are appreciated. Thanks.

[@TimMcKay56]

@@airadaimagery692 😊👍🏻 Tim

[@the1spyderryder]

First I understand that it has been pushed back.

[@TimMcKay56]

We do not know yet officially, but that is likely what will happen. Tim

[@fastdude2002]

I’m still trying to find an affordable option for my DJI Mavic Pro. I don’t like the Spektrum module because I would have to strap an external battery to my Mavic. I need one with a built in battery and affordable….

[@TimMcKay56]

Good luck! Tim

[@brandonwoodford579]

Hot topic for rc modelers. Exactly, 90% of the general population have no idea what remote id even is. Ive done quite a large bit of going around, and asking people if they know what remote id is. No one has even heard of it unless they are in the model aircraft hobby. I bet it passes over, theres no one to enforce it. So ok..

[@TimMcKay56]

Copy!

[@kurtzFPV]

Like CB licenses in the 70s lol.

[@Aaron1100us]

Also, how would they even know or enforce it? They would have to hire tens of thousands of people to go around the country to try and find people not in compliance. Say I fly my drone at the local park, there will be somone from the FAA there to check on us? LOL

[@TimMcKay56]

Copy.

[@jeromerobinson7064]

Phoenix Air Unmanned, uAvionix, UPS Flight Forward and Zipline - to conduct BVLOS drone operations at 400ft or below. After a request for public comment closed in June, the FAA has now approved these firms to begin operating.7 days ago

[@TimMcKay56]

Yup, events moving fast. Tim

[@jeromerobinson7064]

@@TimMcKay56 and this is out there for people to see and know about it. Wow

[@grumblewoof4721]

I am interested in this topic since the UK CAA has just asked for input from flyers regarding modifications to drone rules. "Stakeholders" have been working with the CAA to propose changes to the rules for flyers and drone manufacturers, however, the CAA does not list who the "Stakeholders" are. The UK decided to leave the EU and many EU regulatory bodies will no longer be adopted in the UK including the EASA drone classifications and rules. A section of the accompanying document to the questionnaire is very pro remote ID so it is clear that the UK CAA wants to introduce remote ID regardless of any objections from flyers. I, and as far as I can tell, everyone who has filled in the questionnaire, has said "NO" to remote ID. The reasons are security and privacy of drone flyers and burdens on manufacturers to comply. It seems the Government or "Stakeholders" want to be able to track drone flights and automatically prosecute and impose fines for flying into restricted areas. What will be classed as a restricted area will be decided by the CAA, the Police, local Councils, Companies, Government MP's and officials and likely wealthy individuals (I can surmise that these might be the "Stakeholders"). The UK could just end up being a patchwork of restricted areas and no where to fly drones apart from designated postage stamp sized fields in the middle of nowhere. Say "NO" to Remote ID.

[@TimMcKay56]

Thanks for this update! Tim

[@markitzero7408]

Everyone should submit a few requests for FRIAS just in-case they temporarily approve them all. It also may make the backlog longer, giving us longer to affordably enjoy our hobby.

[@TimMcKay56]

FRIA requests must go through the AMA, so this will not happen. Tim

[@markitzero7408]

@@TimMcKay56 So the AMA is denying FRIA status to their own AMA fields?

[@markitzero7408]

FYI per the FAA website.... FAA-recognized Community Based Organizations (CBOs) and educational institutions such as primary and secondary schools, trade schools, colleges, and universities are eligible to request the establishment of a FRIA.

[@TimMcKay56]

@@markitzero7408 Right, and so far just four CBOs are listed on FAA.gov. Other schools will need to get their CBO status. I think this is via the IRS. Tim

[@TimMcKay56]

@@markitzero7408 What does “a few requests for FRIAs mean” then. This is serious business with the FAA. No shenanigans. AMA has submitted 1,700 FRIA requests to FAA, to include fixing a lot of denials. Maybe the AMA knows what they are doing? Tim

[@bigdatapimp]

ALL RC MODEL AIRCRAFT ARE DRONES ACCORDING TO THE FAA! fixed wing are not exempt in any way from the regulations. Standard RID applies the exact same to fixed wing as it does to muti-rotors. The FAA DOES NOT CARE if it only has 1 prop or if it has 100, if you are flying it "remotely" it is a drone. Oh and BTW that makes you (and every other fixed wing RD pilot) part of the drone community. That is part of the problem. People keep trying to make a distinction that is not there because the AMA thought they would be exempt since they primarily fixed wing, but they are not and are now crying. Instead of standing up for the hobby in the first place everyone just figured they would be ok and did nothing.

[@TimMcKay56]

Correct, everyone knows this. The hope is the FAA will recognize the difference between the two communities, maybe offer some relief on RID. Tim

[@fredmunson8952]

These modules are not cheap.

[@TimMcKay56]

😊👍🏻 Tim

[@gemfaceter]

I just looked on Horizon Hobby that Remote ID is 70.00 dollars. As a retired person in my 70s this is getting ridiculouse. These FAA rules have just started and will only get worse.

[@TimMcKay56]

Copy!

[@billmakesmovies]

I have a DJI Mini 2. Purchased it like a month before the Mini 3 came out. I spent hundreds of dollars and weeks getting my 107 so that I can fly it and use the video legally. I find out I can't fly the thing now thanks to ridiculousness of the FAA and this RID. DJI doesn't seem to have any interest in updating the Mini 2 to make it work, which I think they totally could. Now my $800 purchase is worth probably $150 on the used market, if that, and then I will have to spend another $1000 or more to get a legal drone some day. Pretty peeved about all that. Hopefully a Mini 4 Pro and a Mavic 4 come out sooner rather than later, and I'll get those to be current and start making some money with this whole effort that will justify the cost, but I'm also pretty sure the FAA and Congress will ban DJI before we know it for no real reason other than they're good drones that work too well to allow the people to possess. Everything is stupid.

[@TimMcKay56]

Sorry to hear about this. One SkyID module should make you legal, right? Tim

[@billmakesmovies]

@@TimMcKay56 not really supposed to tape stuff to your aircraft. It decreases performance and causes a safety hazard! I learned that from the government!

[@billmakesmovies]

@@TimMcKay56 it really is incredibly stupid that I can fly this thing recreationally all I want because it weighs less than 249g, but if I want to take a picture with it with any potential for making one red cent, I need to tape some after market module to it.

[@TimMcKay56]

@@billmakesmovies 😊👍🏻 Tim

[@TimMcKay56]

@@billmakesmovies FAA has always taken a very hard line between recreational and commercial flight activities. Tim

[@gordoncollyer8252]

So the problem with the FAA reviewing FRIAs for “land-use” aka ground safety and proximity issues is that this is entirely out of scope to the RID issues (so is it statutory supported?) of air space use. Once the FAA can control a field’s use for proximity to a Parks’s lawn mower shed for example, during a RID review, there would seem to be little defense against the FAA claiming it can review any UAV flying site for similar issues totally independent of RID considerations. Others have said this another way, what about the existence of a RID module provides someone searching for a lost dog with “more” safety in and around flying sites. The FAA really should not be attempting to abridge local land use agreements, laws, and contracts…..it is not their job. So argue that RC planes are really “aircraft” and their runways are to be managed like full scale, and my point will be: fine then I want full, unrestricted acres to the airspace my tax dollars support, including landing rights ar Dulles international for example. The real problem is that the RID law was portly written and is being interpreted by folks who similarly don’t understand the technology they are attempting to regulate.

[@TimMcKay56]

😊👍🏻 Tim

[@eyespy1415]

Push to have RID modules supplied by FAA, at their expense. 1 tag 1 operator.

[@TimMcKay56]

Boom!

[@billyrebcollins9615]

My RC Airplane has GPS is that acceptable to the FAA as a form of Remote ID?

[@TimMcKay56]

No, very strict Means of Compliance for RID on the FAA website. Tim

[@billyrebcollins9615]

guess I'll have to get out of the hobby then,, just can't afford it. Oh well...@@TimMcKay56

[@BillKisel]

So, should I cancel my pre-order from HH? $70.00 is a lot for me to spend for something I don't need.

[@TimMcKay56]

Your call. Tim

[@MrRV7A]

We should leave all the RID modules on the vendors shelves.

[@702Wolfi]

Too late. It's what you get for complying without thinking things through first.

[@BillKisel]

@@702Wolfi Ouch! That hurts.

[@rjung_ch]

Personally, I think this is a huge failure of the whole coordination of the 16. September remote id requirement.

[@DumbledoreMcCracken]

Remember that this all started because, and was justified by, the remote aircraft that entered the White House grounds. This is suppose to protect 'high value' individuals, not the public per se. I am going to support any legal mandate issued by my FAA, and I see them as the only trusted agent in this space.

[@TimMcKay56]

Copy!

[@LouisPFloyd]

Can't get a FRIA or remote ID module ....WHAT TO DO NOW......?????

[@TimMcKay56]

Quite sure we’ll get a grace period. Tim

[@LouisPFloyd]

@@TimMcKay56 some are vehemently convinced that we will, and some are vehemently, convinced that we won’t the guy from FPV freedom coalition says we won’t but yet others say we will who knows… it’s all the guessing game.

[@TimMcKay56]

@@LouisPFloyd RID is a non-event. Things will all work out. Tim

[@FINNIUSORION]

two of the three different Rc clubs I've been a member of rented fields that were on the outskirts of an Ampitheater or stadium. ama clubs that have been flying there for years and years if not decades. but since they're in relative proximity to the stadium they will not get the free air status lol. you couldn't make this crap up. there's literally no safer place to fly.

[@TimMcKay56]

I think they will work this denial after the initial rush is over. Tim

[@dunlapmichaell]

I can't find any maps of the FRIA area. Any help?

[@TimMcKay56]

FRIAs will be published on the FAA's UAS Data Delivery System. Non published yet as "FRIAs do not exist" until after Sept 16, 2023. Tim

[@onthefly4]

I have a question. If I registered my under 250 gram drone will I have to have remote ID even if not required?

[@TimMcKay56]

No need to register if under 250 grams. Tim

[@cloudstreets1396]

How will this be enforced?

[@TimMcKay56]

Watch my videos! Tim

[@theplinkerslodge6361]

Gee, it's almost like we need a membership organization that can sue the FAA. If only there were such an organization, too bad for us.

[@TimMcKay56]

😁

[@fletchb]

Thank you for the update. I saw that video you mentioned last night and wondered the exact thing if it was legit or not.

[@TimMcKay56]

No problem 👍