2024 Taycan Market Crash: Is Now the Best Time to Buy?

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Welcome back to RBR! Today, we’re taking an in-depth look at the #Porsche #Taycan GTS amidst the current EV market turmoil. The Taycan, once a hot commodity, has seen its market value drop significantly. But does this mean it’s a bad time to buy, or could it actually be the perfect opportunity to get your hands on one? Let’s explore!
You’ve probably heard about the EV market plummeting, with models like the Taycan Turbo losing more than 50% of their value. But why has this happened? Is it just a temporary blip, or a sign of a permanent shift in the EV market? In this video, we’ll dig into what’s driving these changes and what it means for you if you’re thinking of buying one.
I’ll also share my personal experiences with the #porscheTaycan. I’ve owned two, a Cross Turismo 4S and a Sport Turismo 4S, so I will also impart my own experience. For those considering a purchase, we’ll ask the key question: Is the Taycan GTS a smart buy in the market today?
To do this, we will go beyond the market discussion and take a detailed look at one of the best models: the Taycan GTS. We will do a recap on what makes this EV stand out, and walk through its engineering and technical details, as well as performance. I’ll also take you through a real-world test of the Taycan’s range on a 450-mile road trip to Scotland-did it meet expectations, or fall short?
With the new Taycan models on the horizon, we’ll also compare the current GTS to the brand NEW Taycan in terms of tech, range and design. Is it worth holding out for the latest and greatest, or does the GTS still hold its own? You’ll get all the insights in this video.
And of course we will go for a drive, where I’ll give you my honest take on whether now is the right time to buy a Taycan, or if it’s better to wait. Could the market dip further, or is this the low point? We’ll consider all the angles before you make your decision.
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[@RemoveBeforeRace]

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[@ballerblocks]

Just imagine the depreciation these German cars will have when cheaper high end Chinese electric cars come into the market. And yes they are on par, quality and tech wise, not so much with design.

[@darkness8849]

you have to finish your fence bro, its on construction since years now :D

[@Crunch_dGH]

Re: Obsolescence Resistance. Skin deep beauty hasn’t cut it in the (Tesla-only) world of OTAUs enabled via vertically integrated electronic components that CAN’T be done when most of them are provided by subcontractors that struggle to communicate verbally, let alone electronically, with their counterparts. Thus, only Tesla & (partially, tofu dreg) BYD are able to continually refresh their products. Plus, (CCS “innovator”) VW-related cars are sadly the most retrograde, in that regard.

[@MaestroWenarto]

I had two Taycans and lost so much money....the drive is a dream - so my advice is to buy a use Taycan

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

You bought them brand-new? You are a brave man and I salut you!

[@YumboYack2521]

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722probably for a GT allocation, if not then brave isn’t the word I’d use

[@cassokon]

Thank you. Cars are depreciating assets so if you buy a new Taycan congrats; but also if you were/are able to get one cheap, congrats.

[@andrewstorm8240]

Only lose if you sell

[@bst379]

@@andrewstorm8240 Company car, then the depreciation is a tax write-off

[@YousufAhmad0]

The biggest mistake EV manufacturers made was to not modularize the battery pack so that owners could simply buy and swap in newer higher capacity battery packs into older models.

[@971sina]

Mistake or just good marketing 😉

[@verynormalman]

Phones used to have batteries that could be easily removed.

[@guywilkinson]

It's really difficult to engineer whilst trying to balance range and safety requirements.

[@petroskraitsis]

Nio is doing it.

[@sardororipov1302]

taycan actually has 33 modules that you can swap each and cost $800 each

[@Thisismyhandle218]

I got a used 2 year old Taycan 4S with a huge spec and 13k miles for less than £55k on a PCP with the Porsche 2 year warranty with a discount on extension to 3 years. I feel for the previous owner as they took a massive hit no doubt. To say that I'm pretty chuffed is an understatement, I absolutely love it and to Raj's point in the video every day I drive it it puts a smile on my face.

[@Watcheyes]

Which model year would you recommend?

[@umairejaz6665]

I am debating between this and the Model S. I prefer the looks of the Taycan, but the Tesla Model S doesn't look that bad. However, Tesla's technology is miles ahead.

[@Itsallagame1984]

@@umairejaz6665 get the tesla much better proposition.

[@aoaaron6166]

where did u get it from? im in the market for one.

[@Luminated67]

Personally I feel sorry for those early Taycan buyers, they were stepping into the unknown and they paid the price for it. Facts that many ignored, big saloon cars generally don’t hold their value, even ICE versions so a new technology EV one was not necessarily the right model to introduce. We have one in the family but we did it PCP back when Porsche thought they had the pricing right so are stepping out of it not costing us a packet. Only my opinion but because this technology is ever improving I think it’s mad to buy outright at the moment, better to either lease or PCP, at least with both forms you know the end cost for the period of ownership and if you don’t like it walk away.

[@ks-vq5er]

They don’t care most are leasing

[@Luminated67]

@@ks-vq5er Porsche don’t but other brands are giving great deals, I got an i5M60 for less £19K over 2 years. A £102K motor that costs you that little is the way to go.

[@tokyowarfare6729]

Early buyers of a Taycan are rich enough not to give a shit.

[@Natak222]

Please man, more of these investigative type of videos where you go deeper than your standard but vey polished car reviews. This is all you're missing

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Appreciate the comment! We're planning on some more 😎

[@runbuh]

Before you buy a gen 1 Taycan, read the long thread on their Taycan forum titled "Underbody Protection Panel damaged. Batteries and coolant lines need inspection. $72.5K replacement & labor cost.". A 3.33mm dent in the panel requires a complete battery replacement.

[@TimRobson]

But shouldn't that be covered by insurance?

[@runbuh]

@@TimRobson Go read up the thread. I believe insurance did end up covering it, but it took a huge amount of work on the owner's part to get the dealer and insurance to line up on the coverage (dealer wanted $72k, insurance was only going to pay $42k, IIRC). Additionally, the dealer kept his car off the road the entire time he was working out the financials, which took several weeks. The car was deemed too dangerous to drive (fire risk). He got a loaner for some of that time.

[@ThesGt]

thanks for this crash, i just got a 2021 Taycan 4S with less than 20k miles for 50% of the price new, its a great car and its a blessing for ppl wanting to get a great EV car for a discounted price, got the car 2 days ago and this is by far my best car i have ever driven and i love it

[@Boutit031]

When your turn comes to sell?

[@ThesGt]

@@Boutit031 who cares, every car will lose value, EVs will just lose more that's s given, the next guy will also get a good deal on my car and I will lose money on depreciation but the main depreciation already happen with the first owner, you are overthinking it, this is not s stock or an asset to make money, cars are really just toys you waste money and enjoy them for a period of time

[@LongyUK01]

I bought a GTS new from dealer at 40% off list…. Wouldn’t run a Taycan out of warranty… for a 2021 I’d say that’s still a risk.

[@wizzyno1566]

​@@Boutit031its already 50% off when he bought it.

[@rogerfroud300]

You'll probably have to keep it, because depreciation is still going to make you take a huge hit if you sell it.

[@orlandopenahernandez7631]

About a year and a half ago I was in the position to buy a new 'daily', i really like sedans for that, so I went to my local BMW, Mercedes and Porsche. They had available 330i plug in hybrid, C43 and base Taycan sedan with some preconfigure goods. Where I'm from they don't import the high end versions b/c they are a pretty penny, you can order them. I went for the Taycan knowing that in my country there is ZERO public charging infrastructure, but is was for daily use basically for my metropolitan area which includes 6 cities with an average temperature of 33 celcius during the day. I'm very happy with my purchase I've put around 15,000 km in that time.I charge it at my house every 2 or 3 days, perfect for my needs. I always keep an ICE SUV for my long trips. That has been my experience overall.

[@andrewhurstcars]

Of course you will still see a drop after you spend £70k on a second-hand GTS, if you buy one at that price as you suggest. It will drop to £40k in no time, then after 8 years the battery warranty runs out. All large four-door saloons have always lost a lot of money, that's nothing new. Look at the price of a four-year-old Panamera for comparison, the cheapest is £45k, only £5k more than a similar aged Taycan. The new Taycan is a huge step-up with about a 100 mile increase in range.

[@TheHispasians]

I just acquired a 2024 Sport Turismo GTS for 30% off MSRP. Coming from a Model S, I bought eyes wide open that EVs are not investments. Just enjoy the drive!

[@justinsymonds8470]

I agree with everything you said.a lot of non ev owners worry about range but if you can charge at home or have access to any public fast charger it really isn’t an issue if your ev can do around 250 in the summer and 200 in the winter. I started my electric journey with a i3 with 120 mile range which dropped to as low as 75 in the winter. Great for living in the city I had no issues but I moved to a rural location and it could no longer do. I got a Mercedes eqc with 250 mile range and I’ve never had to worry ever again! My next car will be a taycan, most likely sport turismo. EVs for me make THE BEST daily drivers, I get depreciation anxiety though so for me that’s the only kicker with EVs. My eqc is doing OK so far as I picked it up used!

[@MrDead1975]

I'm so glad I didn't buy a taycan turbo 1 1/2 yrs ago, I was so close and dodged a depreciation bullet

[@ystebadvonschlegel3295]

Me too - I had spec’d around $170K taycan build and then came to my senses. Really wanted it and wife said buy it - end up with a Z4 BMW convertible instead and it’s basically free vs what I would have taken a hit on from the Taycan.

[@808lublabs4]

I bought a brand new GTS sport turismo a year ago and I absolutely love it. I have no intentions of selling it as it is my daily so all the hype around resale doesn't bother me. Now if you're one to flip cars to try and make the cost make sense then look the other way.

[@peterinsani4203]

Fully agree, i custom ordered a brand new ‘22 Taycan CT 4S as my daily driver. If you haven’t driven one, you are missing out. I also own a 911 Cab, and my wife has a Macan S. The Taycan CT is remarkable and just as fun to drive as the 911, and more comfortable.

[@voksic81]

I got the CPO CT 4S and I go on 800km trips just to be in that car. It's amazing with all its imperfections and quirks, just amazing. Range is irrelevant cause it charges super fast; up to 20min stops at Ionity.

[@peterhammer6915]

exactly!! Best road trip car I have ever had. Have driven 5 times now from Stockholm to Bavaria and even to Italy. 95% using Ionity.

[@Aggie4life77]

I will say that I’m in the market in the US for a used Taycan GTS which is why this video popped up on my algorithm. The values have dropped over here, but no where near what is going on over there in the UK. In the US, you will be hard pressed as of Aug 30th to find a 2022 GTS under 90k and I’m being conservative. Most are still going for close to 100k or more. That’s the 2022 version. The 2023’s and 24’s are even higher. This video said in the Uk, you can get them in the 70k range? The rear wheel drives and some 4S models are going for that depending on how they are optioned.

[@harrygreen9548]

It’s pounds vs USD so probably in the same ballpark

[@Aggie4life77]

@@harrygreen9548 ah that makes sense. 70k pounds is like 91k USA so that’s about right. I stand corrected!

[@raiiiar]

You can afford a taycan but you don't understand how different currencies work?😂 I'm sorry maybe you were hungover or something.😊

[@Aggie4life77]

@@raiiiar Man shut up! I just didn’t realize that the exchange rate was that far off. I was thinking it was closer. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@Logangil515]

You provided so much quality information in this video. This is the first video I have ever seen of yours and it was so phenomenal to watch

[@beatles4sale2007]

Big luxury ICE cars (S class / A8 / 7 series) always depreciate steeply, so the Taycan has followed this. However historically Porsche cars have always had a low curve, take a 10 year old Cayman, they are still £30K which is half a new base 781 version for example. Does a 3 year old Taycan, that is 20% in range “less” than a brand new one offer great value….for sure if you can spend £50K and not worry about losing money. However how low will they go, if Porsche can’t shift the previous gen new ones in stock and the 1.1 new ones have “incentives” or just end up in fleet? Great pod as ever…

[@wallymaingear]

Bought a used GTS Sports Turismo CPO for 50% off and it's one of the best vehicles I've ever owned. Range is also OK, as i noticed Porsche is a bit more conservative with estimates than my previous Tesla.

[@jeffs6090]

I love his analogy to smart phones. It is the absolute truth that EVs are just smart phones on wheels. They are fully disposable after 2-5 years. I definitely personally still like EVs and they are here to stay, but people will eventually trade them out like they do their phones now. 2-3 year leases will be the only thing happening soon.

[@joeblack1642]

All cars are depreciated nobody has money for these high price. It’s not just EV’s even ice. Vehicles are depreciating rapidly cars are too expensive.!!

[@982spyder5]

Nah, I can still get sticker price for my 4 year old Porsche Spyder.

[@LivingLifeSlower]

Wonder what destroyed GBP 🤔

[@livinagoodlife]

The base issue is ignorance towards battery tech + not enough infrastructure for battery maintenance/repairs. People are too scared to get a secondhand EV because they think they are already half dead .. which if you watched Rory of Top Gear's recent videos, that just isnt the case. If EV manufacturers want their brands to signify longevity then they need to invest infrastructure to compete with what exists today for ICE vehicles.

[@MrLtybul]

ev was and is pushed by leftist politicians. a product subsided right from the beginning. ice versions do not depreciate so fast, heck top versions of Porsche rooster are increasing in value. it's simple as that.

[@mikewallace1723]

For me it is buying today and out of date tomorrow. Buying a phone or tv, it isn’t that important. But the technology is changing so fast. I am old enough to remember the video player era, and the best system, Betamax, was beaten by VHS! Solid state is coming. The key drivers are range and charging time. These factors are improving all the time. Not there yet for me. Cost of these cars means it’s a worry to buy if the technology is updated so quickly and impacts the value overnight. Early days, and technology is changing fast. I get it. But this isn’t a phone purchase!

[@dynamicsoulslayer]

Incorrect. Current BEV tech has hit its plateau at the top of its S curve. Like laptops they will continue the decline of depreciation until finally becoming obsolete in 4 years.

[@JayDee-b5u]

You make infrastructure sound so easy. 😂. 'They should just do it!' 🙄

[@pkrastev1]

I absolutely love Porsche as a whole, however, I will never purchase an EV! I have owned a new 911 RS America and absolutely loved it. Also owned a 2007 Carrera 4S and loved that also. Like many enthusiasts, I am attempting for years to purchase a new GT3 without success due to the games that dealers and others are playing with all of us. It's a shame that Porsche refuses to take control of the price wars that are currently facing all of us. In my humble opinion, Porsche should eliminate all dealers and start selling their cars themselves through centralized Porsche dealerships all managed by Porsche directly!!! Until then, I will continue giving my money to others.

[@fgrgtr]

Agreed with you, as a daily driver car, this is the perfect car. personally i won’t be able to get back from my CT TS, that i bought half the retail price, and shouldn’t depreciate a lot more quickly. The range is a mindset, finally better experience in long range trips with my wife, so happy to have 20min stop time to time. Compared to my previous Macan GTS, no comparison, faster, more comfortable, more space.. of course move to the new one : no way !!

[@onski_ski]

I totally agree with your mind-set comment, but my mind is damn stubborn sometimes. Rationally, those slightly longer stops on car trips are nice anyway. But with road trips, especially when they involve the Autobahn, also comes the desire to have a little race. Especially if you're in a Porsche.... All I have to do now is, very rationally, convince my wife that she can just relax while we blast along the road at 200km/h to our destination.

[@dancam3269]

Just bought a 23 plate Taycan cross turismo first owner paid over £120k and I got it for half that...£30k in options truffle club leather,massage,RWS,HUD+++ I know they have more to fall but for now its a keeper and I will just enjoy a great car which I would never have been able to buy new.

[@TimeisReel]

In the US you can get used Taycans for under 50k and used Tesla Plaids under 60k. They were over 100k new. The Cybertruck is next...

[@BiiYAAAA]

The market has totally changed I thought i could keep a couple of oldies for a sale in the futrue for profit.

[@j.r.986]

NGL, I’m bummed to hear that you got rid of your Taycans. I thought your white CT was the best looking Taycan I’ve ever seen, exactly how I’d spec one

[@lrnasigo1]

23’ GTS $113K 2K miles and 22’ GTS $92K with 15K miles in Texas

[@presley1234567]

Anyone who says you should lease is crazy. You still get costed in the interest and exit on the deal etc, not cheaper in real world terms. Good video bro but I’ll stick to my ICE and current 8Y RS3 Vorsprung 👊

[@Thisonegoestoeleven666]

Tidy auto.

[@monchoglu]

Funny, I'm actually considering a RS3 Y8 Sedan and Taycan CT GTS, among couple others. I really like the RS3 Y8 as a daily car

[@exe889]

Picked up an official Porsche used taycan turbo S yesterday. The initial owner lost around 90k over 4 years. It's even PPFd all over. So, they saved a tax bill, I got a car I couldn't otherwise afford.

[@ChristianFrench1]

I had a 4S Cross Turismo on order for 13 months and right before build commit, Porsche got greedy and upped the RRP by £13k so I cancelled it. I definitely dodged a financial landmine.

[@monchoglu]

You did indeed!

[@TheophilusPWildbeest]

Great report, much of it also applies to my car, I bought a BMW i4-40 a year and a half ago and thought HP finance would give me a better result than PCP. Wrong, and I'm feeling the pain with 50% depreciation. Love the car (including the Hans Zimmer sound effects) and it's plenty fast enough for me, like you I don't need sport mode, and the range is 250 in winter and 300 in summer which does me for a week. I normally change my car every two years but I think I'll hang onto this one because (a) I think it's great and (b) I don't want another horrible depreciation hit. Anyone who buys a similar used i4 now is getting a bargain, same as the Taycan.

[@Ndumei21]

The honesty towards the Porsche EV segment and lack of it towards the new BMW design language and recent M cars is noticable too Raz, respectfully

[@Swayzeo]

The E-Tron GT devalued even more

[@pauln0371]

Which makes it even better value 👍👍👍

[@wvu2123]

They aren't popular. I've been living in Southern California for two years now and I've only seen one, I see multiple taycans every week.

[@Chaness100]

This dude got me to buy a CT 4s. Great videos.

[@normanwatson9056]

This says it all and why I've never bought an EV, buyers drive the demand

[@richardmesser1091]

Good to know

[@georgewalker7061]

Great stuff, small point is that when you get to Knockhill it will be another 258 miles & maybe 5 hours just to the top of the Scottish Mainland.

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

What amazes me is the absence of the anti-EV crowd on videos about EV that they can’t afford.

[@plutodestroyer12]

eh to be fair ev’s are a luxury

[@timeslowingdown]

It's hard to hate on a Porsche even as an EV

[@verhu010]

Well many more can afford them now. Gotta love supply and demand.

[@louislambri]

Can’t afford ? More like I’ll afford to buy one. Nothing smart about losing £70k in a year. Whether you can afford it or not !!

[@timeslowingdown]

@@louislambri I can afford to buy one and I like them but I also don't wanna lose 70k in a year so I won't buy one. And i only want the range of the newest model lol

[@Bobajobbob007]

Everyone I know with a Taycan has had multiple issues from minor software, stuck charging ports to a full battery failure. It has put me off.

[@damindra]

Still think Hybrid and alternative fuels will be better than any full EV cars, I am happy in my hybrid porsche, quick enough, great sound and still able to toodle to the shops in silent(though silent in car parks I find wrong and should make sound)

[@Arken2249]

Great presentation. I wish prices were as cheap here in America. My only reasons for not buying EV is poor charging infrastructure and low range. They need to hit at least 375 miles. Subscribed!

[@jonathancollard3710]

By far the best graphics on any YT channel in U.K. or USA. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Good informative vid

[@dannylo4807]

The whole youtube community talking about this yet no one mention a non-hybrid 992 or Panamera will work nearly as well as its first day after 30years when maintained properly. It doesnt matter how well you maintain a Taycan, after few years or so the non-removable batteries will degrade below 70-80%…. Try finding someone wanting to buy a second hand 80miles realistic range taycan… good luck

[@TimRobson]

Fair point

[@getdealtwithquick]

Yeah, because the Panamera is such a smashing success in the used car market... limit charging to 80% for daily driving and get years of healthy battery life from an EV.

[@brownhairydog6472]

Comparing EVS to phones is exactly the correct analogy. Mod cars and EVS even more so have become generic and pretty much offer the same features regardless of brand. A lot of this has to do with regulation but many consumers just want something reliable with heaps of features and don't really care about a logo on the front. Unfortunately. Jeff, save for very few examples. It's going to be harder and harder for EVS to stand out and that hits the luxury brands the most.

[@filoniz]

Wow i am amaze at the difference in size of old Porsches vs new.

[@CambridgeAutogleam]

The old Taycan looks loads better than the facelift as well. I’ve got a customer who is up to around 90k miles on his Taycan turbo S. I’ve told him I’ll buy it off him for £20k next year 😇

[@markghazal3790]

Was wondering if you bring your ICE Porsches to Independent Porsche Service Shops or to the Dealerships and why would you choose one over the other? Thanks!

[@AGDunc]

I don’t understand the drive mode comments. They feel very different to me. I use Sport Plus for everything bar motorway cruising. The throttle response is completely different

[@chloemuffin1]

Don't forget to mention range improvement on the new Taycan, is also gained through a larger battery, 83.6 kWh of usable capacity with increase capacity to 97.0 kWh not just newer components and software

[@mikegregory8353]

One of the few videos that makes a Porsche EV appealing. Taycan is too big BUT it’s making me think, from a driving experience, the upcoming Boxster & Cayman might be quite interesting.

[@michaelpilos]

Dude! Innovation will always move forward.. ICE or EVs.. not the smartest argument…

[@JudsonVanDine]

Not sure if there's any other Canadian here, but are any other Canadians feeling kind of ripped that we keep being told by Brits and Americans that dealers are basically giving away used EV's? I don't think the Canadian market has got that memo. New Taycan at 4S at a Porshe dealer in like Montreal or the GTA is $175ish starting. Same car a year or two old off a lease with 10,000 km on the clock is $150k. By my count that's 15% , which is just standard depreciation rate for any vehicle...... wheres our Model Y's or Taycans or Polestars that are like half off??

[@drumminsensation]

One of the big problems with the porsche electric side was the horrific decrease in range in cold weather. Something that Hyunda, kia and tesla didn't suffer. I can't speak for Mercedes to be honest, but the porsche is by far still the best looking. I love the look of the cross turismo I just can't justify the battery efficiency.

[@nyc863]

In australia a TURBO S still under warranty that sold for over $400k on road is going begging at a non porsche dealer for $160k .. it has 15,000 miles on it! and all the options.

[@bartoski-ag]

u don't have real dollars 😂

[@nyc863]

@@bartoski-ag its the % that is important. Its a lot of %%%% down

[@12f8ewfo]

This is why you always lease EVs

[@PatRick-rm6dh]

😂 🎉😅

[@zali9657]

Exactly 💯

[@LCOF]

It will be interesting if there are really good lease deals for the new Taycan.

[@andrewhurstcars]

The depreciation is still built into the cost of the lease, plus interest on top. There is no free lunch.

[@12f8ewfo]

@@andrewhurstcarsyes that is how a lease works.

[@donwilber1628]

Good video. Looking at US prices, used Taycans are still $110-125k from Porsche, and mid $50s for a 2020, and up to $170k for newer models on the on other sites. Guess you should buy in the UK.

[@Themazcorner]

Thanks for the vid mate. Apart from the deprecation(which is inevitable) it's nice to see someone not talking down on an EV for a change 😅 Honestly for a daily and if one does not drive long distances EVs are where it's at for me. Specially performance versions of EVs you sort of get the best of two worlds(not really but still). Most folks will laugh but I think the 2024 Model 3 Performance is a baby Taycan in many ways. I would love to own a Taycan GTS but even the used ones are much much expensive than A new 3P here in Sweden(the 3P will also deprecation at lot). For sure the 3P is missing many of the things a Taycan has like a indicator stalk 😂 ( mainly radar, sensors and a real 360 camera). But it has the performance for daily stuff, enough space at least for me, it's quite refined on the 24 model and the ride is pretty good and its also pretty efficient. However with the pricing you guys have in the UK for the Taycans it's crazy value.

[@nismo379]

I'm not even an ev guy but will probably buy one of these just to get into my first Porsche of my own! I'm glad they dropped in price. I hope they make a bounce back somehow after I but one lol

[@N807DS]

I liked the video despite disagreeing with your options recommendations! Thanks!

[@TonySparxx]

The main issue with the tycan is range/ battery cappacity. If somehow a more potent battery for the Tycan, it will be an amasing car

[@CASFAN]

Have you not driven the Ionic 5 N? Amazing EV that to be fair. Really puts a smile on your face and whilst the simulated gearbox sounds like a gimmick, it’s remarkable how good it is. It’s the most fun EV I’ve driven to be fair.

[@JackBremer]

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[@dnesdlrow]

The topic of noise and gears in an EV is an interesting one. How about a video on the Ioniq 5 N?

[@turnerkevin3]

I have been looking at a 2021 taycan turbo s for around £60k is there things I should look out for or hidden nasty repairs ?

[@scottyruss1990]

Love this. Incredibly wise words about the desirability of ev vehiclea, and a great video. There will never be a desire to buy an ev car, especially an older one. So so true. Great comparison to a smart phone, quickly outdated

[@mayorshake7236]

This is why I am seriously concerned for Jaguar. They are completely jumping the gun….

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

Is Jaguar still selling cars? As far as I know zero in America right now?

[@mayorshake7236]

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 They are still selling F-Pace but that’s it. I think you can maybe still get a ‘24 F-Type but that will end soon. Any new models going forward are supposedly going to be all electric unless they change their mind.

[@ballerblocks]

Jaguar is going to be fine, as part of the jlr group, they are going to be filling the ev group quota, and if it goes wrong, they will just use JLR platforms and engines into new combustion models.

[@strongerandwiser2023]

The taycan values right now are great for second hand buyers. They are like 40k. Superb car for that money.

[@dk1872]

I test drove the Taycan yesterday. Great car but leaving the Porsche dealership and going back to my AMG to drive home felt amazing. You do see the difference in the weight, the agility and the drama of an AMG. If you are a petrol head it will be a huge mistake to buy a Taycan as your only car. as a 2nd car, 100% worth it!

[@dk1872]

Also what this video forgot to mention is that in the UK with salary sacrifice you can get a new Taycan for effectively 50% discount. Now the depreciation doesn’t look that bad, does it? If anything, you would be crazy to buy a used one!

[@peterhammer6915]

My Taycan is more nimble than any AMG I have driven. Granted, I haven't driven any small ones but the same sized AMG:s feel like boats in compared to the Taycan.

[@mtx1212]

it's all cyclical, just as ICE vehicles 2 years ago was depreciating like crazy, EV is now going through the same low trench...nothing to lose sleep over as market price will always normalize down the road

[@MrDjconquest]

These prices in the UK are mad….USA market still holding around 52-59K for a used base model Taycan, i cannot wait for the full depreciation to hit the US market so i can buy a 4s with performance battery for 50K USD…..So glad i cancel my CT 4 before receiving @ 116K USD back in 2022!!!!

[@Praise_God369]

it is mad from beginning to pay 150k for an EV in the first place 😅 And this design is how old 5-6year old ? its stupid. and boring. stupid and boring.

[@jonfrench7133]

amazing that ppl still think public charging is the comparison. £4.16 for 250 miles in my tesla, zero servicing. Your point on euro ev makers is true, over priced. Tesla readjusted in January and depreciation is pretty much same for similarly priced fossil fuel cars.

[@DrSaahb]

Great video as always and love the colour of this Porsche!

[@ThomasHoffDE]

great video as usual. can you possibly replace the battery with one with longer range in the future?

[@simkondo]

Like how that red tag in the cup holder was responding to the g-force in corners.

[@peter_w01]

Hey, great review! One thing about the ACC and the upgrade to InnoDrive. My Porsche salesperson told me yesterday that since the beginning of September 24 it is not possible anymore to upgrade to InnoDrive. If you have already upgraded, it will be active until 2027 and then be disabled. I find this very unfortunate - I am in the market for a used Taycan and this reduces the selection drastically.

[@Metal05]

They are still £70k. That’s still a big monthly cost with a hefty deposit. Rather have an RS6.

[@hugolepre1492]

I love the RS6 but for a daily, the Taycan CT or ST GTS drives considerably better better. Other than the brakes which are better feel on the Audi the RS6 drives live a boat. Charge at home, less maintenance are very convenient.

[@raiiiar]

@@hugolepre1492it depends on your setup. In my country all current Gen electric are too heavy for the destroyed roads. My 2018 amg is destroying my kidneys even with 19 inch wheels.

[@marcschu8483]

Where do you get a rs6 from the same year as the taycan for 70k? Let’s not forget the atleast x2 in running costs per month

[@LongyUK01]

I had a C8 RS6 for 18 months and swapped out for the Taycan GTS. I have not looked back. Not once. RS6 is all reputation. When the new car excitement wears off your driving a 15mpg A6 with a body kit (I had an A6 black edition before the RS6; for over double the money the RS6 just wasn’t ‘special’ enough). The GYS is better - it just is 🤷🏻‍♂️ Funnily enough I lost over £30k on that car too…. Go figure.

[@pphilvg]

I really can’t make out the second must have options. Listened to it like 20 times but cannot make out what you are saying there. Could you please clarify? Cheers!

[@dreamst]

The insanity lies in the MSRP. 150K

[@ph8077]

Funny, I've just bought another house & it has a "3 phase fast charger" apparently, whatever that means - more research needed I guess. I currently own a 2023 RS5 Vorsprung coupe & I'm thinking of replacing it in the next few months. By pure coincidence today on Autotrader I noticed the brilliant value of 1-year-old Taycans with

[@mikewallace1723]

Check insurance cost. Another area where they fleeced you.

[@m27gio]

Definitely agree it’s more Tesla esque! But headlight improvement for sure

[@liquid_metal]

Reasons for the Taycan eye-watering depreciation are multifaceted and I explain it below. I fortunately pulled the plug on a GTS Sport Turismo beginning of 2023 having received an allocation. Very glad I did, even though it's an awesome car. Like everything in economics, if something skyrockets, it will plummet at a similar rate. And Taycan used prices skyrocketed through 2022, an outcome of a lack of supply because of a microchip shortage; the first signs of inflation; and a lack of available finance. The only way from there was down at a similar rapid pace and like in physics, something hurtling that fast will crash spectacularly. And that is exactly what happened. I had a suspicion that would happen though was also leaving the UK, so even less point in having a relatively unused car in storage. While the reasons for this include the updated model, which was anticipated even beginning of last year containing new tech; the microchip availability issue being solved; competitor cars launching on the market that provided a similar ride quality/fun for half the price or less; the lack of available finance; but mostly because the Taycan was the most popular EV model for business owners and salary sacrifice schemes - because of the excellent tax incentives. Many of those were on 3 year terms 2020>2023, so a flood of used Taycan's hit the market creating the perfect storm. Used buyers held off expecting further falls meaning inventory continued increasing, and used prices reversed even more aggressively. Basically two years of inverted depreciation from the pandemic to 2022, where used prices were higher than new, reversed aggressively into 2023 where the the typical compounding of depreciation from 2020-23 all hit in the same year. Panicked, Porsche discontinued the GTS to try and maintain some price balance, but it's not enough. Had I went ahead with my £130k optioned GTS, within 6 months I would have lost £30k at least. Annualised, some 30-40% depreciation! What made this worse for many new Porsche customers is they purchased it via their business or salary sacrifice expecting used prices to remain high. They otherwise could not afford the car. In 3-6 months, many of these people were facing losses of £20-30k and where they are stuck on a 3 year finance term, they will eventually write off a total of £45-80k depending on the model they purchased and how imprudent they got with options. The lesson here with all luxury EVs is: wait, and then buy second hand UNLESS you get an excellent PCP or finance deal.

[@CallsignVega]

In the US, I'm only seeing big price drops on the crappy lower end models with RWD.

[@travisbruce5096]

I was waiting for this to happen, this is the only electric car and the e-tron GT I would buy, they look so good, great design

[@rolandsanders-s8s]

6year unlimited mile warranty on my pre owned Taycan

[@Huiando]

250 miles is way less than 410. Sweet spot is 500 from charging infrastructure perspective. Completely removes any range anxiety. 800 mi is not necessary. Ones a car has 500+ miles, there is no reason to update to one with 800mi. I owned evs for the very 6 years and battery degradation is tiny.

[@papugenas]

for me the biggest EV issue would be battery price which is just insane, when few years old taycan cost less than batteries you know this market is doomed.

[@amaqsood1]

Love the way Taycan drives. The biggest issue is unreliable battery. When winter hits battery dies and irony is that it takes Porsche months to put a new one. Also its battery has 8 years warranty. Most likely it will be worthless once battery warranty is expired.

[@peterhammer6915]

In 8 years time, or even earlier battery replacement will cost way less than now. Lighter batteries around 20k is my estimate in 2029.

[@jasonfranciosa]

Would love to pick up a used 2024 Taycan for 50% off MSRP. Can't wait.

[@apb3251]

So the benefit of having an old Taycan is using Google Maps to plan your route? 😂 I noticed as most motoring journalists also fail to mention (as they get it as part of their job) is insurance. This car is about x4 the price of its ICE equivalent to insure.

[@sinematographers3344]

Good compositing between models. How did you approach this for seamless edit ? Locked off Cam + Blender ?

[@Retheraq]

A Porsche EV being overpriced? Wow. Surprising.

[@G82Watts]

Thats insane that porsche says 0-60 3.7 then it ends up being 3.2 sec.. 😂 just like bmw.

[@pauln0371]

Crazy indeed. Even crazier when you realise it's the same time as a McLaren F1😮😮😮

[@cephasmakuzva]

I agree at these crazy LOW prices. Like a £40k taycan is phenomenal value. It really is a great time to get into what is a very premium electric car. And you get that porsche badge. You cant loose money either. Not at that price for a still 'new' porsche.

[@mikewallace1723]

I think you will still loose money. Battery fear! This will change as we get used to the technology. But who is buying at 8 to 10 years old car that may need a battery change? For ice there are local garages who can maintain the engine into old age. Not aware of this for EVs, yet. It will come.

[@cephasmakuzva]

@@mikewallace1723 maybe your right actually especially with those early cars the battery will suffer causing further depreciation but for the cars now like the taycan gts specced to 120k and 70k 1 year old with only 3000 miles. Its creating amazing value

[@WeAreWatchingU]

The headlights on the old version are so much better and futuristic.

[@BlackBirds93]

29:15 absolute necessary options you need to get

[@m176r3]

If I buy the turbo ? Does the turbo just come in a box for the car of my choice

[@ZDY66666]

even though these are half off, I still would rather buy a base 911 or a 981 Cayman GTS for 718 GTS 4.0 for bit more or a bit less than a 2020-2022 Taycan

[@Logangil515]

What year was the red taycan in the video?

[@Ethan-pd7nu]

Just bought a 2020 4S CPO for 63k usd out the door. Fully optioned out Carmine Red. Can't believe it.

[@pauln0371]

TBF with the state of our roads and the amount of speed cameras you could save even more money and just buy a newer Audi E Tron GT which is comfier and more than quick enough for a daily driver.These now start on a 71 plate with circa 30k miles for about £40k...

[@PappLacc]

Will be a GTS trim from the new 2024 facelift version? This GTS looks soo much better than the facelift models.