Removing Balance Shafts and Installing Massive Speed Balance Shaft Delete Kit! - 2.5 Swap Episode 6

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In this 2.5 swap episode we're removing the 2.5 duratec oil pan, balance shafts and installing Massive Speed System's balance shaft delete kit. We also remove the 2.5 intake manifold to make way for 2.0 parts! Looking back, this is the very first part I ordered to kick off my 2.5 swap. Back then, I bought one of the most inexpensive bits just in case I figured the swap wouldn't be possible. Buying an engine felt so far away, but we are actually doing it now!
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[@warrenmiller5398]

keep up the content! can't wait to see your next vid on the 2.5 swap.

[@adinlouw]

slowly making my way through 2.5series..I dont own a miata at all, but i am seriously pondering buying a NC when ready. to use as a daily workcommute. anyway, i like the 2.5series, as I have a 1979 mazda 323 rwd, and swapping a L5 MZR engine into it, is one of my mazda dreams. thanks for sharing the vids. keep tehm up.

[@davea1317]

From left to right... knock sensor, then you have the pvc baffle plate (with a hose to the intake, rwd intake has a port for this as well), the last one is your EGR port (rwd intake also has a port for this) the tube on there now will not work... thanks for the NC miata content!!!!

[@lorenhumphrey1252]

very helpful and informative. I will get to removing my CB assembly.

[@krstanoski994]

I have Mondeo from 2002 ST220 V6 but with 5speed manual. I was asking myself is it possible to swap that gearbox and put the newer one with 6 speed manual?

[@alexgardiner3977]

Nice video but I trying to find out if that balancer shaft have a special setting when replacing?

[@T78ify]

Hi, I have questions for that. Is it gonna effect anything after remove it??

[@RoTaRyTeNcHiGoKu]

The piece you point to at the end is your crank case ventilation system, mountune and radium engineering make replacement kit for it or you could just keep the stock one. My understanding is it should be the same as what you have on your 2.0. hope this helps.

[@ColoredinLight]

Thank you!

[@Beakz_]

@@ColoredinLight From what I've read and researched, both the stock 2.5 and the 2.0 oil separator (Crankcase ventilation) will interfere with the NC intake manifold. Supposedly, one from a Ranger 2.3 fits and fixes the problem. The other thing to know is that the NC1 and NC2/3 intake manfolds differ slightly. NC1 is supposed to look smooth while the NC2/3 have reinforcing ribs on the outside which supposedly cause fitment issues regardless of what part you use, (Ranger, Radium, or Mountune). Check out Walter-Motorsports guide on the swap. They list out parts and part numbers.

[@Beakz_]

Also the tube/bung you pointed at is the EGR tube for the 2.5, it goes directly into the 2.5's manifold while the 2.0 has a metal tube that runs underneath the manifold and bolts in. Currently doing a 2.5 swap on my NC and looked into plugging it but realized it would be a flag for emissions testing with the tube missing. Xero Limit sells a block off plate for the manifold side and goodwin sells a plug for the block side. Still debating deleting it or just plugging the tube with JB weld lol.

[@876affilitech3]

What's the balance shaft for and why did you remove it?

[@j.r.cabrera4042]

What happens if you just cut the balance chain and dont delete the oil line

[@nazmo8900]

Hi i seen you taken out the balance shaft from engine and put the delete cap. I got ford s max ecoboost 2l i would to know how much oil would i need to top extra? And take out the balance shaft from my car!

[@austinsherwood7188]

I've heard it's another quart

[@thi626tracing]

Anyone knows the torque specs for the oil pickup tube bolts?

[@danielmartin2053]

Hello, sorr about my poor english, but I hope you will understand me. I´m repairing an LLR I5 engine (2011 chevrolet Colorado 3.7L) and I´ve disasembled the gears of the balance shafts (back of the engine) and !SURPRISE! no one of those gears has any lock on it, they turn free over the axles. How can I install all of them properly ? Please ! Can you help me?

[@creativem0nster579]

Is that plug under the intake the knock sensor? I’m not sure about the others.

[@ColoredinLight]

I think it might actually be!

[@321krupt]

I have a 2003 Mazda 6. It spun to bearings. Can I take my balance shaft off and it run ok after I replace the bearings

[@ColoredinLight]

I have to take the balance shaft out to fit the miata oil pan. I would leave it on if it was meant to be there

[@anxiety3681]

Is there a way to take off the oil pan with the engine still one. I tried to install this but because of the ac compressor, I couldn’t

[@ColoredinLight]

Can't speak for your car, I'm assuming a fusion or Mazda 3?

[@marknaidoo5819]

You need to unbolt the A/C to remove the sump. Removed my sump and added an oil drain port for the turbo install.

[@RV.P.P]

do we need to check the timing of the balancer before putting it back?

[@ColoredinLight]

No idea, I'm not able to put it back

[@glengrimm4075]

What is the benefit of deleting the balance shaft

[@dfsgffgf2000]

Hey man I missed the q and a live stream sadly I had questions on the 2.5 swap I am thinking of doing it myself

[@ColoredinLight]

You can always ping me on Instagram

[@abellopez31]

What engine is that please

[@mikej5853]

If you were going to put the balance shaft back in, is there a critical alignment step?

[@ColoredinLight]

I would not be putting it in. The 2.0 oil pan wont fit with it in, therefore it wouldnt fit in the car

[@rechietiu2857]

If ever your putting it back in. Is there a timing or alignment? Thanks

[@TheSixstringsyndicat]

@@rechietiu2857 yes a balance shaft needs to be timed or the engine will vibrate badly, hence, "balance" shaft.

[@rechietiu2857]

thomas hart thank you

[@boakium3089]

@@ColoredinLight why do you need to put the 2.0 oil pan?

[@no-replies]

This should be the same process for a 2nd gen Mazda 6 2.5, correct? Apparently this was a common mod when they were new

[@ColoredinLight]

Idk why youd remove it if you didnt have to

[@AverageJoesracingteam]

unfortunately I can't post a pic here, however, I put a 2.5 I'm my nc using the original 2.5 pan. naturally, I had to cut and rebrace the subframe a little. But now I am removing the counter balancers , then using a 2.3 pan that are $46 shipped from ebay. The subframe will still need a slight modification (ballpeen hammer) , but should fit without cutting and welding. The purpose is to sell the complete NC engine with oil pan to a spec miata racer for top dollar while replacing it with a $199 2.5 engine that makes more power and are super abundant

[@buckreynolds1779]

It's a process ....and where is that torque wrench? Thanks for the video Jackson....keep shoveling there has to be a pony somewhere

[@ColoredinLight]

Thanks for checking out the video!

[@buckreynolds1779]

@@ColoredinLight Don't get discouraged. Take your time...invest in decent tools as you are doing so.

[@buckreynolds1779]

My 06 Winning Blue is at AR Hendricks LLC in Cypress TX as I type. . So I am not doing the labor and research as you are so my hat is off to you. My 2.5L with 11.k just had 1.5 Stage XeroLimit Cam installed last night. Armond is dropping in a tune and drive it to the dyno at CP Motorsports in Houston. My chassis has 102.k miles on it stock so I will need upgrade the suspension of course when I get the car home. First Miata ever owned that I kept stock for 5 years. It'a AT BUT still a blast to drive. Installed the GWR 1.8 header and mid pipe. Kept the stock intake and exhaust as I don't think they make any difference and at 61 years of age I am not into loud shit. I will let you know my HP and TQ

[@Philcancontrator]

Some put baffled at the oil pan. Is it alright without it?

[@ColoredinLight]

What

[@guillaumetsogbe-hamel2145]

If you dont run a baffle you run the risk of oil starvation because the oil can move at a steepier angle in the pan when cornering.

[@Samiam_ariel]

does this make a noticeable difference?

[@ColoredinLight]

You have to do it in order to fit the 2.0 oil pan

[@MegaALO10]

What are the benefits and the cons of removing the balance shaft?

[@ColoredinLight]

The benefit is that you get a 2.5 motor to fit in the NC 😁

[@boakium3089]

@@ColoredinLight why doesn't it fit? You never actually explain that.

[@ColoredinLight]

@@boakium3089 the first step in doing these 2.5 swaps is understanding all the steps and pieces needed and why. Since I'm not making how to video on my first engine swap I wasn't going to be the resource for it. But you have to remove the balance shaft because the 2.0 oil pan will not fit with the balance shafts.

[@ballamaniac6984]

@@ColoredinLight u still didnt explain what the benefits are lol

[@ColoredinLight]

@@ballamaniac6984 lol look at the comments on this? I've explained it. You can't use it. There's no further answer than that.

[@JAYJAYJAY53]

What happened to your 2.0 ?

[@ColoredinLight]

Nothing was wrong with it

[@JAYJAYJAY53]

Colored in Light good subject . Document all costs ,time and difficulty. And your performance gains

[@FuquarProductions]

Thanks Goggle, it's the wrong 2.5 liter.

[@ColoredinLight]

Damn goggle

[@williamsouthard8204]

I have a 2.0 pan you can have just pay shipping

[@richie4353]

Hey buddy I have a extra one are you still interested

[@ColoredinLight]

Extra one of what

[@daveyharmon9187]

Do not delete the balancing shaft out of a stock 2.5 The balancing shaft helps keep the vibrations down down out of the motor and out of your car it will literally vibrate your car to death without the balancing shaft It's pretty much a fancier harmonic balancer

[@ColoredinLight]

I've run this engine in my car for 2 years now and it's fine. Also, you have to take it out for this swap. The Miata oil pan won't fit with the balance shafts.

[@superspinse]

You need to lay off the SOY!!! Fact!!!

[@ColoredinLight]

Tf are you talking about