REN DUMB KING COME (REACTION)

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[@peterdobos1606]

details - his bouquet is white chrysanthemums (mourning), ferns (sincerity, among other things), and, telliogly, olive branches (a peace offering). Ren's attention to detail is legendary.

[@janegill8990]

Ferns are also a symbol of renewed life- resurrection 😉

[@thehangingparsiple5692]

Wow!

[@LookalikesCoUk]

I also think the bag pipes are the same as at the funeral of a monarch

[@loveisgreat750]

I think it's plastic flowers... I don't want to spoil the great impression👏👏

[@mitchchartrand]

​@@LookalikesCoUkand playing Amazing Grace, very apropos title and lyrics

[@Parula06]

Lenny is one of the characters in John Steinbeck's novel Of Mice And Men, that's the reference. I absolutely swooned when Ren did this., along with the David Attenborough bar. So good! No reference in Murderer to Dotta, Ren recorded and shot that over a year ago when he'd never heard of KD. Ren's lifting KD up, so is Knox, really. Dotta's on the radar, thanks to them. Whether he stays there is up to him. Hope he's able to capitalize on their help, improve his game and grow.

[@williamalexander7481]

My favorite was the Lenny line as well. It was such a good book.

[@poledra1980]

My firsts listens I heard the Mice&Men bar as “You’re eroding, this is my cement, crushing skulls… :) kinda worked too - and then I realised he said Lenny and then heard it differently :)

[@omnomshibob]

Not sure it's a good thing being on the radar considering he's lost 75% of his subs since Ren's Diss was released.

[@supertuscans9512]

Oh shit, missed this but the whole reference is going to be wasted on Dotta as much as if Ren had referred to the Hydron Collider..

[@IndubitablyUsee]

LENNY CRUSHES A RABBIT WHILE PETTING IT SO THATS THE DIRECT PORTION HES REFERRING TO

[@krisprepolec5616]

Only Ren can reference Steinbeck (Lenny in Of Mice and Men), David Attenborough, and Rage Against the Machine. He is both a beast and a lovely human❤

[@distractjen]

With a bit of Daft Punk sprinkled in for fun 😂

[@ckronenwetter]

A beast and a lovely human, that is spot on!

[@novaconstable8470]

He literally switched from beast mode to human/ren mode! ❤️

[@Calmontheoutside]

Yesss! Lenny in of Mice and Men. Sweet and feeble minded (as described in those times), yet capable of violence (the puppy), daunting in his size. Thank you-that was driving me crazy! (The only Lenny I could think of was Lenny Bruce.)

[@bronwynread2990]

Well said

[@peterdobos1606]

"You cease to exist" = 5 syllables.

[@distractjen]

Niiiice catch

[@sarahirwin8912]

One thing I love, is at the beginning, "Amazing Grace" has one meaning.. funeral. But at the end when it plays again, it's because he truly showed amazing grace. Love that juxtaposition.

[@PauloSantosMusic73]

The end was Ren just being Ren, but also a little future diss... Ren is basically saying: Dotta you got what you came for, a million new eyes are upon your shit... step up... if fail now who are you gonna blame then?...

[@Prgy4538]

In my 44 years of life, I’ve never seen this before. I just witnessed a massacre that ended with being killed with kindness . Only something ren can do. But it’s true, ren sees the facts joe sorta had 1m eyes it’s his turn to actually do something instead of be jealous and hate on others. Bravo ren!!!!!!

[@bookerwills8649]

I didn't expect anything less. Ren felt bad and could have gone harder but didn't want blood on his hand

[@supertuscans9512]

REN’s given Dotta his shot. I hope Dotta is familiar with EM because it may help him grasp the opportunity he’s been gifted. “ You better lose yourself in the music The moment, you own it, you better never let it go You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow This opportunity comes once in a lifetime, yo You better lose yourself in the music The moment, you own it, you better never let it go You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow This opportunity comes once in a lifetime, yo You better…” I wonder if Dotta is going to seize the moment and his chance to blow or is he gonna blow it? “

[@clscragg]

Lennie, from ‘Of mice and men’, written by John Steinbeck. Also the Kombucha, line, which refers to culture. Fungus culture tho. 😂 He was true to his world, he send him back to school. Physics, chemistry, literature, biology. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bonnievonbraun6276]

Ren is always doing the unexpected. That is why we all follow him. It's always a Surprise Party. 🥳🎉🎊 (Lenny is a character from John Steinbeck's "Of Mice and Men")

[@JoeYo77]

How can anyone Not love this kid?!

[@tundiel]

Thank you!! You're the first reactor to shout out 'Daft Punk'! Everyone's missing that one! Class react to a class act ❤

[@dee_owen]

I thought exactly same ❤

[@GarnetJ]

Yep, so many reactors missed the Daft Punk reference!

[@leob3447]

@@GarnetJ Yeah, it took me 4 listens before I caught that one myself.

[@janeanderson6704]

Agreed😂Many have missed that one 👍

[@phil1500]

He's also the first to count the five syllables in "you cease to exist" even though he didn't bring it up

[@donald1379]

Ren killed it with kindness...thank you

[@Dad-JanieWorld]

I said I didn’t want Ren to respond, because I felt like it was no win for Ren. But I’m man enough to admit, I was wrong. Good for Ren, to flip the script at the end.. Ren surprises me over & over again. Hat tip to Ren for truly using his platform for good!! He is just different!!

[@cherylmack1260]

And then he ends it with the song Amazing Grace.... Love his humor.

[@Spot-t]

Yo anthony just wanted to say man, you deserve all the attention you've been getting aswell lately, you're killing it with this content man

[@jonathanohnona9191]

dotta had a line about no instriments so I think thats one reason he did it that way.

[@serendipitish]

Clever of Dotta, I thought, trying to defang one of the advantages Ren has over him. "Don't dazzle 'em with this other shit, I want to compete on the rap field, bar for bar." And Ren's response shows respect for that, while also demonstrating he doesn't NEED any other shit to impress. Doing it a capella works on many levels (including the diss of "it's not worth my time" to produce a beat, or fit this to an existing one), but especially reframed it as a battle rap rather than a diss track, in a way that allows for Ren's game of lifting ships to make sense. 🎉

[@themojoslide]

So Dotta loved Ren's comeback and admitted defeat. He said he was actually eating red velvet cake for breakfast that very morning 😂 so found it hilarious! Now they are all good!

[@Snarky_Tart]

AR ❤ I think the reference to Lennie is a triple. Lennie Small is a character in the novel "Of Mice and Men". The character's name is already a double because Lennie Small is a physical giant of a man. I think Ren sees Dotta as the Lennie character, and the plot of the novel is a metaphor for the plot of Ren's diss track. In the novel, Lennie is a mentally defective giant who doesn't know his own strength. He's accidentally killed small, soft creatures, such as a puppy he's been given, by being too rough when he attempts to pet them. His friend, George, has always looked out for Lennie, and has tried to keep him from harming anyone. In the end, George is forced to shoot Lennie in a mercy killing, in response to Lennie accidentally killing a woman.

[@marianneszijj]

Ren added props and even an “interpretive dance” as he called it. 😅 King Dotta said the cake line cracked him up hard cause apparently he actually had cake for breakfast! 😅 No lie! Now, I am craving cake myself. 😁 Ren really is a rising tide lifting all ships. 😊

[@90sMade0]

Ren is nothing but authentic all the time ❤

[@Night_Parade]

I’ve learned to never have any expectations besides “it’s going to be fire”. Ren sets his own rules, he’s never a slave to what’s expected. Love this shit. Flipped the script in the Rennest way possible. Poet Warrior. You Cease To Exist - 5 syllables. Damn dude.

[@KatSnow11]

Aha! Nice on the 5 syllable catch, I don’t think I would have ever noticed that. ✌️

[@Is.this.thing.on-]

Lenny was a character in the novel and movie Of Mice and Men, who crushed mice, accidentally, when he picked them up to pet them.

[@survivalrush]

Yep, it's also a bit deeper than that I believe, Lenny was a big Black Guy (like the chap in 'The Green mile'), who had a mental disability, and needed others to support him in daily life. He also killed a woman accidently, by shaking her and snapping her neck (that may have been the transition to the jenny line? I'm not sure, but I'm always looking for the extra layers in Ren's Lyrics, lol). Deep stuff.

[@thehangingparsiple5692]

I believe it was rabbits he crushed x

[@thehangingparsiple5692]

​@@survivalrush I imagine Lenny in green mile was called Lenny because of the mice and men character 🤔

[@ianhislop6782]

@@survivalrushthere’s no mention of Lennie being black in Of Mice and Men. Both George and Lennie are allowed to live in the main bunk house so it’s implied they are white.

[@Is.this.thing.on-]

@@thehangingparsiple5692 could well be. It’s been over 30 years since I read the book 😂

[@mahelaniarektbb]

I just love the smile of like a proud uncle on your face while listening to Ren. Love this guy

[@kittymccarthy2111]

This is why we love Ren❤️

[@NativeNYerChicHK]

Lenny is the main character in the classic novel “Of Mice And Men”, he ALWAYS brings literary references. Fucking cool ♥️

[@lisayoung4987]

Ren is a killer with Kindness

[@libby215]

Ren recorded Murderer last year before going to Canada for treatment. Dotta mentioned Murderer and other Ren songs in his diss. Lenny in a tragic character in John Steinbeck's 'Of Mice and Men'

[@dawnpatterson8708]

I would SO love to see an interview OR you two just hanging out, talking about life AND having fun. I saw a post from Ren, saying he had poked the bear (Dotta) just enough to get him to release a diss track. So, he could respond. In a PERFECT Ren fashion. 1 Showing, that he could INDEED play his game and do it VERY well. 2 Make a point, that there is enough hate and division in the world. Why add to it? 3 Give him a spotlight and challenge him to SHINE. It was everything that we have come to expect from Ren. Love and support.

[@norahdenovan8658]

REN won hands down with talent, genius& love. He replied& then let it go. I love him so much ❤🙏

[@peterdobos1606]

Also, it's clear that Canada has rubbed off on Ren. You will never hear more apologies in a diss. Sorry, eh.

[@StelFiRu]

😂

[@EnigmaTimGaming]

Eh, while that IS a Canadian stereotype, it is also a British one, we apologise a lot. It's likely national guilt from all the colonialism (and also maybe where you got your stereotype from :P )

[@luntdesign]

Rubbish. Us British apologise. Most of us.

[@atwellorama]

Ren really is something different. Someone we need. And Dotta has subs now. Thanks to Ren, he has doubled his subs at the very least.

[@ricksurratt9034]

It was like a short film. Ren is hilarious. bar heavy short film.. also, he kept his tempo throughout amazing

[@Vmcf1968]

i loved this so much. i think it hits harder with no beat.

[@chicmedic]

Lennie is a character in the novel Of Mice and Men. Lennie loved soft animals but had a bad habit of accidently crushing them.

[@kizunadragon9]

the bagpipes are playing amazing grace. we think of it as a funeral song but if you look at the lyrics it's talking about how all things are possible though gods amazing grace. and the flowers Ren has in the beginning, once again he sets up whats going to happen if you pay attention. everyone always says Ren's twists are so surprising, they arnt, they are right there in plain sight all you have to do is look

[@Pablopax4]

Yes, a Ren interview is required, I want to hear the backstory of all this..

[@TuPham-gn9vt]

Ren explained why he decided to agree to a rap battle with Dotta (even though rap battleling is not his thing) in a post in his KZbin channel on his Community page. That post was dated 2 days ago and started with this sentence: "Okay I need to be totally honest here."

[@Veeliscious]

He just Killed Dotta's Hate with Love 💘 and signed out with Amazing Grace... "Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that." MLK Legend. 💖 Ren is next generation Warrior of Light 🦾❤️‍🔥 Am looking forward to a Ren interview with you as an Honorary Avengers member!

[@peterveste6976]

and this is why Ren is a amazing human ❤❤

[@caro.k2958]

Lenny is one of the two main characters on Of Mice and Men a giant of a man with immeasurable strength child like intelligence and no understanding of conscience. He crushes things animals and people without malice or intent such as the dead mice he likes to pet 😢

[@DimebagWuest]

Respect Ren! 🙏💪🇺🇸

[@peterveste6976]

OMG I would love to see a interview with you and Ren my favourite artist ever i also love your music Anthony ❤❤❤

[@christinefuss9585]

Lenny is in the book called "Of Mice and Men" He's a huge mentally disabled guy that tries to gently hold a puppy but unintentionally squeezes the life out of it. Great reaction.

[@josephcoen665]

Well Lennie didn't just kill a puppy; He did the same to a lady!

[@tandyhard8286]

First few seconds in "Oh. It's like that." 🤣💀 Im dead LMFAO

[@ceejluige4816]

Ren recently mentioned that he wrote Murderer a year and a half ago and sat on it. So no, there's no Dotta references in the song.

[@GarnetJ]

I was looking forward to your reaction! There isn’t anything like the smile on your face when Ren surprises or impresses you 😏 I really hope Ren takes you up on the invitation for a conversation. I know we were all curious to see the approach Ren would take. This was clever and hilarious. He honored the hip hop battle rap culture, sharpened his pen, and wasn’t afraid to step into the ring. He threw some wicked punches💥 🥊 But then he flipped the script and stayed true to his message of unity and lifting others up, rather than tearing each other down. Dotta’s subscribers have doubled as a result of Ren’s track. And even Dotta gave Ren props and respect on Dotta’s community post. I’m sure Michelle will punch back, but I doubt Ren will give him much attention. Dotta popped onto RedTop Reactions livestream and said the cake bar had him rolling because he had red velvet cake for breakfast 😹

[@nualaseamus]

This is why no one f***s with a warrior bard - they will take you down. Ren is smart, witty, talented and a legend in his time. The fact that Ren then can take it to the next level and chooses to eschew the hate. Love this man so much!!!!

[@hendersongalbreath1072]

Just the most Ren response possible. Kills the guy with violence and kindness on the same track. I have never heard a diss track that ended with a genuine gesture of goodwill and, as you said in your reaction, an "alley-oop" that gives him a real second shot. This dude is one of a kind.

[@annelix]

15:10 Murderer was written 2 years ago. I can't imagine that Ren knew Dotta then and used him for that.

[@JackBolton-hq2ul]

I enjoyed this reaction review so much I've subscribed. Ren is a whole different kettle of bees to so many artists out there right now, and I love that getting to the end of his performances rewards viewers/listeners with a shot of adrenaline - surprise at him rising to yet another level of genius within it, and that shot is STILL there for the die hard fans, because he's impossible to predict; add that to his extensive vocabulary and innate musical talent and he feels like the future of civilisation within music. Because that's what's lacking elsewhere, progress, insight, courtesy and humanity.

[@RealMistyRose]

This shizz was STR8 up off the cuff 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Ren technically not even a battle rapper & this cat is talented as hell he slaughtered it!!!! Funny as shizz didn't even waste time makin a beat 4 or puttin a beat to it....he's a beast on the rise 💯🤯🤙💪 🎤🎧🎶 Plus in the end despite stating his case extended the olive branch 4 peace & even showed love & respect. Ren is a Real One 🔥 #RenIsSavage #AnthonyRayReacts #HipHopDissBattle

[@AlExMaChErCoDiNa]

Was waiting eagerly for this reaction😂

[@michaelaghmalone-hansen5656]

AMAZING GRACE on the bagpipes....is the icing on the cake.

[@kittymccarthy2111]

Lenny is character in book of mice and men. Great reaction as always.

[@ellet6560]

“Flick of the Wrist” is a 1974 diss song from Queen,

[@mikeduplessis8069]

The mention of Lenny crushing skulls has to to with John Stenibeck's 1937 novel 'Of Mice and Men'.

[@CuteJByrd1]

I dont know if anyone said this yet, but for the Murderer line it was in response to the line in Dotta's diss where he said hes gonna become one because he was gonna kill Ren on his diss. Also, you've become one of my favorite reactors. You get it and i love your passion with it, plus your voice is butter! Much love 💕

[@TanyaQueen182]

The epitome of "be the better man". Ren IS the better man in so many ways.

[@justmejoy124]

Yo Anthony been waiting to catch your reaction. Woke up to see Rens this morning and caught Doms & Cliffs reaction so far. Felt exactly the same as that singer reacts opinion. Dude loved it. Man is Ren quiet and artist. Brilliant how he chose his approach. Truly original and frickin badass man. Ok ready to catch your view. Hope your day is great . Btw thanks for your prayers . Lost my loved one night before last but it's life ya know none the less appreciate it.✌️

[@dee_owen]

The reaction iv been waiting for ❤

[@loneyb11]

“Kombucha can really help feed and increase that good, healthy gut bacteria, which can help decrease any bad bacteria,”

[@dancerbird76]

Been waiting for your reaction. Love that you picked up Daft Punk reference. Loved watching this whole situation play out, learn a bit about battle rap and be reminded that Ren is in his own lane. Thanks Anthony. Hope you get the interview….would enjoy seeing you guys chat.

[@crunchydragontreats6692]

Knox responds and sends love. Ren responds, sends love and a million subscribers to like and subscribe. Current Dotta subs 8/8/23- 363. Dotta: Ren is about love, acceptance and compassion. His fan base is diverse, deep and wide. We are not only from the “culture”. We are from every walk of live. Every generation. Every musical background. Every culture. Welcome to the army of Ren. Times change, my friend. Time to change. Perhaps you can learn from this. Grow from this. We must all remember, we are human beings. Grab your ketchup and crunch away my friends.

[@aaronb.4830]

I really enjoyed the whole put down the Cake/little bit of Steak on my plate (since Ren is on that Paleo diet)/Beef/Butcher/Butchering the culture/ You aint brewing Kombucha scheme. You literally brew cultures to make Kombucha.

[@serendipitish]

Agreed, loved this scheme, and the clever kombucha part isn't getting much verbal commentary. And little steak = little stakes for Ren, Dotta isn't a threat to what Ren has, he can just have fun with this.

[@minneyruth]

Ren, we want to see this interview happen 🙏 lol ❤❤ Nice reaction you actually cleared up some of things he was saying ❤❤

[@sympotaz2960]

The reference to Dotta in Ren's murderer, he had Dottas name stuck onto the punching bag he was hitting i believe.

[@davidbrown7779]

Loving it I’m subscribing finally my friend. Your there with Knox man 💙

[@dalemurray1318]

Blues was "black" Jazz was "black" rock and roll was "black" soul was "black" it doesn't matter where a genre comes from what matters is how well you do it.

[@antimatter2380]

I agree with the sentiment with one caveat. The origins matter because in all those references you mentioned, there are countless artists that werent credited or paid when their music was stolen. We should always respect and learn from the past when we push new bounds into the future.

[@dalemurray1318]

@@antimatter2380 I'm talking about genre not particular pieces or performances. If a Mongolian writes a gorgeous Opera, does it matter that he isn't Italian? Is Stevie Ray not allowed to play blues?

[@dalemurray1318]

@@antimatter2380 The one's who "Steal" the reward for the creations, are the Record Companies, or the Publishers, or the Capital Investors, or the Manufacturers, In other words The Capitalists, and the Golden Rule* means it's LEGAL when they do it. *He who has the gold, makes the rules. The rules of Capitalism were made by Kings and they were intended to insure that the wealth flows UPHILL.

[@novaconstable8470]

Didn't dotta reference (call himself) a murderer in his ren diss? Im pretty certain there were no references to dotta in murderer as ren actually filmed that before hi ren.

[@dukecunning7046]

6:50 "You keep talking about skin color. That idea is so dated, bro." 100% agree with you AR! Love your discussion Anthony! 🙂❤

[@Pilk017]

Thank you for bursting out in "Killing in the name of", that happened in my head too. Honestly the whole reaction was a great break down. You know your shit.

[@Ibis-of-Equilon]

Imagine how sick it would of been to be in Ren's highschool drama class aye

[@StantonMoira]

That was funny as hell. The Michelle Show. Watching you walk off cracking up was hilarious. Did that the first time I watched it. 😂

[@lillyvanpug]

Watching you have fun with this was really enjoyable 😂 That little grin that kept creeping up was telling tales 🤭 And what a unique Ren comeback. Pissed on a corpse at the beginning, dug him up, cleaned him up and gave that dead body new life 🤯 Today is your second birthday, Dotta

[@kristinbrantley9075]

class act to the end

[@Lemonbees]

Amazing grace to end class act. Filmed in the car park rushed in-between treatments.

[@lunadyana3330]

Lenny from the Steinbeck novel, "Of Mice and Men." The lenny character was noted for being very dim witted and crushes the head of a puppy he loves because he doesnt know any better and, as a big oaf of a man, is unaware of his own strength

[@BorderlineWarriorPrincess]

I'm stoned and when you started singing killing in the name of, it sent me into a giggle fit, was really funny haha

[@DarienDudley]

Ren tears him down and builds him back up

[@campscramps]

Yayy! I've been anxiously awaiting your take on this! (Also, how did I become so obsessed with this saga... lmao)

[@patriotsfootballplc]

Ren put it all on Dotta. Sent him all the eyeballs so the pressure is on him to do something with it and capitalize because if he doesn't its all on him for the miss.

[@LadyCyr]

Ok not sure if you were told about this yet. But you asked who Lenny is. There's a book called of mice and men and Lenny is a character in that book. Of mice and men is about 2 brothers migrant workers but 1 if them is mentally slow and he's really strong and accidentally kills a girl just because he's trying to pet her hair. So because he can't cover up his brothers crime he kills his brother. Lenny was crushing skulls in of mice and men. Make sence now?

[@Yoyokanon99]

MURDERER is referencing Rens Murderer song. Dotta dissed Ren. On his diss track saying hes the Murderer..So now Ren said to him ok with his Thumbs up..

[@Jksmilez]

Lenny from the book "Of Mice and Men"

[@aimeekeel]

Ren dug up the body and desecrated the corpse. 😂 love that in true Ren fashion he was laughing and apologizing through most of it.

[@chronicinokla]

A rising tide ...... #RENEGADES

[@heartwork8318]

That was a great reaction! I enjoyed watching you watching Ren!✌🏻🫶🏻❤️‍🔥

[@DeeWeber]

Ren breaker of all walls ♾

[@michelleeagle595]

REN doesn’t lose sleep in the whispers of sheep ❤

[@Peacetrain66]

Great reaction😊Ren proves he can battle then explains why he doesn’t want to. He’s lover, not a fighter! Love wins💕

[@brooksy1217]

Lenny is the character from the book 'of mice and men'

[@maxmoller]

Ren already won with the Viagra line. 😂 And when he went RATM - "F you, I won't do what you tell me." It was all over. The fact that he went 180, and actually said some nice things in the end. Shows how big a man Ren really is.

[@kellywaller8829]

Lenny is a character from Of Mice and Men. His ability to exercise word play is legendary.

[@BrandonWestfall]

The bag pipes made me lose it.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

He took the high road.... "... Dotta is sick" But then he reminded us IT'S A FUNERAL!!

[@chrisparti]

Someone pointed out in the comments on another reaction, that Ren handled that with 'Amazing Grace'... as well as being a traditional funeral song obviously...

[@SAKluvsMAKEUP]

Lenny is a character in the classic novel Of Mice and Men, who doesnt know his own strength and kills a man. He is also Special Needs and very misunderstood.

[@aneurysm2479]

Man you're one of the best reactors. Love your takes. Never stop, please

[@2nicnag2]

When you lifted your glass up to drink as he started the viagra line, I wanted to shout ‘wait’ because I didn’t want you to spit it all over as you heard the rest of the line! First time checking out your oage and subscribed almost immediately

[@Seamus.MacLeod]

Lenny from "Of Mice and Men". Ren's going classic film/literature. "Dotta" is written across the top of the punching bag in the first chorus of Murderer.

[@Cynthiabecker24]

Congrats on hitting 200k subs. Keep pushing, much respect from Melbourne Australia. 🙏 🌏 💙