Rendog VS Etho - Hermitcraft TCG Battles 03

Minecraft Hermitcraft : Rendog and Etho play a best-of-2 Hermitcraft TCG match with no wager and 2-2 split! Decks have been upgraded with Trades and Boosters.
Hermitcraft TCG Battles Playlist: • Hermitcraft TCG Battles
EPISODE CHAPTERS
00:00 - Game 1
23:41 - Game 2
1:12:32 - Game 3
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[@darokiin7921]

Two things I’m loving about this series: 1.) how Ren treats the Hermit cards as actual people (we’re gonna give Impulse a farm so he’s happy) 2.) Ren’s little observation tower of shulkers

[@somejerkbag]

Pretty happy TCG took off the way it did. After all the work Beef put into it. I was worried it would be a 1 and done like Tangos among us

[@rfresa]

It's so amazing to see all the other games that they create within Minecraft!

[@jaewol359]

Yeah it’s super cool. Beef must be so happy with the results.

[@tristanmendoza6948]

Unlike tangos among us tcg doesn't require that much hermit to Play and tangos among us is almost an end season so yeah

[@Shesstitchin]

I think among us came too late in the season too

[@bunta3434]

That was only coz it was the end of the season

[@Healion123]

"Say the line, Etho!" Etho: Waffle for 70! [everyone cheers]

[@diamondfinder8933]

TCG is becoming more and more addicting

[@WoobyMe]

And I'm absolutely here for it

[@WritingsOfQuill]

Etho: That's buh-! Uh... Baloney! People are getting spicy over these games 🤣

[@pinakijana9479]

58:17 That was a pro gamer move from Etho! He put two useless item on Hypno beforehand so that when he gets the Miner item card he can use Hypno's rare attack in back to back move and kill two afk hermits on Ren's side. (Hypno's rare attack is that he can attack afk hermits instead of the active hermit, but everytime he attacks an afk hermit he loses an item card. So putting two useless card makes him power up for two back to back uses. Incidentally Ren had two afk hermits on very low health. It's shame that the miner card took really long time to come out)

[@chair5613]

It wouldn't have made any difference. The card gets knocked off after the attack, and then he can just attach another at the beginning of the next turn. Same result. Say Hypno has one builder card attached when Etho starts his turn. He plays a miner card, attacks and knocks out an AFK Hermit, and the builder card gets removed. His next turn, he plays another builder card, attacks and knocks out an AFK Hermit, and he wins the game still.

[@sayanbiswas7364]

@@chair5613 That would imply he has a good draw of miner cards, which he didn't. Yeah he could keep the 2nd useless card in his hand, that would make no difference - he could just attach it on his 2nd Hypno attack. I guess he was just fidgeting to do something, since he had such bad rng.

[@CuriousMothling]

I think the way ren does the tcg stuff is my favorite out of all the hermits.

[@sixiqgenjimain]

Hey Ren! I feel like you can get more value out of the “splash potion of healing” card by changing hp breakpoints for your hermits rather than squeezing out as much healing as possible. A great example of this happened early in the game here where your 90hp impulse was faced against a 90dmg attack from Jev. While you only would get 20hp from that heal you would either force Etho to use a damaging effect card (which in general are pretty great) or you would force him to take an extra turn to take out your hermit allowing you to attack 1 more time, which means extra damage.

[@mikaelsanchez3609]

If he added some chorus fruit he could still be able to guarantee attacks while swapping hermits. Then after a few swaps he could heal them all. It would definitely be more efficient

[@lunar_orchid9308]

i think ren was concerned etho might have a sword card or something that would add the 20dm back and still kill his hermit. Thats why he did the bit with running to etho and asking if he had a damage effect. He didn't want to use the heal just for etho to still kill his hermit.

[@ChauNyan]

Ren and Etho's styles are the complete opposite and they are both highly skilled. Ren plays magic while Etho plays Hearthstone.

[@katie8881]

There have been many awesome things to come out of TCG- hermits getting super active, lots of crossover and collaboration, lots of bonus content, and players geeking out to name a few. But one of my absolute FAVORITE things has been all the hermits using the attack names to do impressions of each other. I love when hermits do that out of the blue normally ("booshes" or "xyz of doom") but this has taken it to a new level and I'm absolutely here for it.

[@WoobyMe]

I've never been happier, with all this extra Etho and Rendog content ❤️

[@nathanc8478]

Etho has the best energy when doing something he loves. Best burns too. To Sacr: "He has a plan. It's a retirement plan"

[@dragonladyusps]

Thank you, Ren, for posting these. Gives me something awesome to listen to while I do stuff. But, the out of the blue laughter does get me odd looks....but sooooo worth it.

[@Healion123]

so true! I barely have any clue how the game works but these videos make for some great BG audio!

[@PhoenixClank]

I think the biggest weakness of your deck is that you have Hermits of 3 different types in there. With your Hermit/Item ratio it can take quite a while for a useful Item to arrive in your hand.

[@liamengram6326]

This match was ages ago before he had many cards. He has run a mono redstone deck for weeks on stream.

[@Johngle]

28:34 with 13 hermits in your deck, you have a 75.7% chance of drawing at least 2 in your opening hand. In my opinion 9 hermits is the absolute minimum with the ideal being somewhere between 10-12

[@judodan8921]

at 44:31 Iskal took 70 damage but they only reduced his life points by 50. That means at 45:47 he should have been reduced to 80 but instead he was at 100. This may not have made a difference here but little things like that can end up making a big difference in games like this.

[@astashy]

yay!! i cant get enough of these tcg battles, thank you for posting them :D

[@j.blocher9081]

Thanks for the match! I do have to say that I think putting attaching items after attacking is a big deal and in my opinion could effect the outcome of an entire match. It's basically forgetting to play a land and coming up short to summon a creature in MTG. Even in non official match that really wouldn't be allowed unless it's your first couple matches. Especially since that damage or lack of damage in close games could make it or break it.

[@MarcJaxon]

That second match was brutal, man. Reminds of drawn out Magic games. GGs to ya both.

[@6ixOhOnee]

Loving the series! Hope there's a lot more to come

[@savdebunnies]

Thanks for uploading your matches!

[@dragonsamuslive]

Ren I love your strategy of having the most hemit cards. They can bash it all day but it works 🤣

[@dopyd3757]

I would enjoy a pack opening at the end of a video to show what you gained from the battles!

[@Bakee42]

Hey Ren could you make the TCG logo on the video a little smaller?

[@shawnheidingsfelder8179]

In two matches, we saw the upside and the downside of having a couple of extra hermits in your deck. If the opposing player has trouble drawing hermits, you'll likely win because you're more likely to have an AFK hermit on the board. When the board is full of hermits and you keep drawing more instead of useful cards, your options are severely limited.

[@hemanth.alluri]

The background music in the second match was a nice touch.

[@Shesstitchin]

Love how you center the camera so we can see the full board!

[@krekcabnow2910]

They need to make a rule in case a hermit falls asleep during the game.

[@t.errapinart]

Falling asleep to this, the gentle prog rock in the background has me totally vibing out. I'm loving this series ❤️

[@chewehong8318]

love the match and some aftermatch talk from all the hermits , thanks for including them is the vids , love it , and REST WELL too , gonna take care of yourself just like etho said , health is more than anything👍👍👍

[@ruemistressofyeets]

You gotta love how Ren is such a storyteller that he invents narratives to go with his gameplay.

[@hachagebrun2614]

4 GOATs's convo will always be the best nerd convo EVER

[@johndextersantos9541]

I think you can play TCG with two players looking in a double chest haha. . can't wait for the world download and play it with my friends. :)

[@Daniel-rd6st]

37:40 So lesson learned, you dont want to get into a barfight with Grian 😆

[@poissonCHA1]

this is just perfectly my vibe and my mood

[@HIllowder]

I'm genuinely entranced by these games, they are so interesting 😁

[@somejerkbag]

Wow what a great match 2 That's full potential right there

[@fizzle7421]

Thanks for uploading these videos like this, my dude. You should do something different with that tcg logo though. That bad boy is huge lol.

[@bethanyann]

And here we go! Yessss

[@-inFinity05-]

It is official the end of the work day! TCG and The Duck Call Room podcast made it fly by yet again!

[@JohnkyTonkbadonkadonk]

If I were Rendog, I would bribe Beef into making Alternate art cards of Rendog, with RentheKing art. No special effects of anything, just STYLE.

[@mikebaker2436]

13:05 One can understand his confusion. In Pvp, Etho never considers chorus fruit a single use! 🤣🤣🤣

[@sheriguy8313]

love how Ren commentates for the hermits. 😊

[@fdagpigj]

One card type that would be cool to see in this game would be items that can act as two different types. Ie. whichever is more useful to the hermit it's attached to is what it acts as. That would be an interesting alternative to 2x item cards which are currently the only optimal type of item card to ever include in a deck, being only limited by how many you can obtain. I guess the biggest problem would be manufacturing such cards as beef would have to make up to 45 different combos.

[@AshSabre]

lol my backlog is increasing when everyone uploading their tcg vods.. i still love this nonetheless..

[@WoobyMe]

Hey ren, could you make the TCG picture smaller on screen? I feel like it covers up a lot

[@DarkAngel-ki3co]

I love that no one has fixed the explorer weakness (electra) on the weakness board yet.... TOO busy playing the game!

[@miniciominiciominicio]

1:12:32 What is this lol ohhhhh I see I see Sneaky Ren! But thanks for posting these matches!! These are way back from Feb 8, surely you've played more matches since then? I hope so! :D

[@anoukrothoff6143]

Yeah i saw in beefs latest episode that he has a way better deck

[@mikebaker2436]

Imagine GigaCorp's chagrin when they send a surveillance probe and find Rosie helping Ren sort through his new booster packs. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Ron-oq3ro]

@17:00 never attacked with bdubs? Or can you not attack when you flip up?

[@andrew3139]

Doc can get turned on by a wild card!

[@TaffySongs]

Could you provide the date the game was played? Would love to know whether it's up to date with what I can see in your streams and in comparison to what other hermits have.

[@rowan_like_the_tree]

i saw someone else say it was from the 8th of February

[@ThEtRuTh576166]

The game masters need to get the rules figured out and know what they are talking about

[@plantcraftie4141]

in the second game Etho got some last minute luck after being unlucky the entire time haha

[@aaronc1051]

At 44:35 cub only took 60 health away, then changed it to only take 50 away when the attack was 70

[@orionlaos]

Why didn't Tango took dmg at the first turn of second game at 25:44?

[@stephenrose4167]

They RenDog, I just saw a vide that said if you feed a brown mooshroom cow a flower you get suspicious stew based on the type of flower you feed it. Test that out and use that at your next bbq/bry.

[@huemungus5535]

Honestly we need to see the write up of these rules

[@therealmanman7576]

Limited life ?

[@Bukan_windu]

Yeyy, another tcg

[@krekcabnow2910]

Grian being a beef cake is the craziest lore I’ve heard in a minute

[@andrewcavallo1877]

5:00 does the type advantage only function as an attacking bonus, or is there an attacking deficit against a type weakness as well? As in, Farm type does +20 damage against Explorer type, but does Explorer type do an attack with -20 damage against a Farm type, or is it just neutral?

[@kraashtest6089]

It's only an attack bonus !

[@andrewcavallo1877]

@@kraashtest6089 cool, thank you!

[@mojpeace]

Legend

[@mikebaker2436]

11:48 Legitimate answer to Ren's question... It COULD matter. There could be strategic advantage to playing out of order. Example: I have 2 hermits that I want to power their abilities with my card. If the attack succeeds, I want Hermit A to have the card... but if it fails, I need Hermit B's ability (like YOLO) instead for a future turn. Out of order card placement gives me this advantage of selecting card placement after an attack result that would impact resource allocation. Another way it could be useful is in matching weaknesses of Hermit types. Example: IF opponent's hermit lives, I need to resource Hermit A because of their extra damage, but if opponent hermit dies, I want Hermit B's ability for the next opponent Hermit that will activate... so I gain advantage by knowing the attack result before card placement. ...but these are just theoretical advantage in the game mechanics... none of the hermits are this shady. Note: In the specific case, Ren is correct. His situation didn't matter... but it is a problematic precedent that could theoretically impact game play in rare circumstances.

[@ameliamintz392]

Ren: leeets geettt.... Cub: physical? Me: 🤣😂🤣

[@arnabdutta2794]

Evolution of Ren’s WHAAAATTTTT!!??!

[@RatPrints]

I BELIEVE IN YOU KING!!!

[@PFABI06]

Wouldn't it be more fair to switch sides after each game? Ethos first game was clearly cursed!

[@lauriea2971]

Good game

[@dugganpersyn9653]

EPIC REN

[@charleybolstad7116]

YOU'RE NOT ON THE NEW LIFE SERIES? WHAT? WHY....maaaan

[@axelblake8234]

23:19 Cubfan lol.

[@wweminehead5458]

ITS REN DIGGITY DOG WOOOOF

[@Gamepro2112]

How did Etho’s Joe attack for 50? I thought the card said 30.

[@grondhero]

I haven't seen the Hypno close up, but isn't his blue power *Got 'Em* just require two items? So Etho could have won much earlier. Hypno uses his power _then_ loses an item card (meaning he'd have to have another item card to attack with *Got 'Em* again). That's the way I understand it. Maybe it's worded differently, but I'd think his card would have _three_ slots for his special power if it required all three to be filled. Anyway, I'm enjoying the TCG mixed in with regular episodes.

[@camperkiller3]

Hypno is a miner type so he needed a cobblestone item + any other item to use his ability. Etho arbitrarily put 2 builder items on Hypno to prepare to use the ability a second time.

[@pinakijana9479]

@@camperkiller3 That was a pro gamer move on Etho's part! If he got the Miner item a little early he could have killed two of Ren's afk hermits in back to back move! On other hand if Ren had a "Lead" effect card, that would have been game over for Etho.

[@fdagpigj]

@@pinakijana9479 Lead can be such a powerful card against any non-mono deck because it can screw you over big time and there is literally no counter play, aside from avoiding running hermits that require three items I guess.

[@camperkiller3]

@@pinakijana9479 I called it arbitrary because I can't think of a scenario where he would be unable to play the item after he used the move the previous turn. Like you pointed out it could very well have been a blunder if Ren had a lead.

[@colleenlavigne2196]

I see TCG, I click.

[@JamesOfEarth]

Tighten up on following the rules, Ren. Removing that redstone from X was pretty cheaty. Five hours of streaming notwithstanding.

[@JamesOfEarth]

Sure enough, you were only able to get the second attack via that cheaty hack.

[@JamesOfEarth]

Glad to see at least it didn’t result in a win. This was game 2 btw.

[@rowan_like_the_tree]

dude this is a game for fun, if the hermits don't really care about it there's literally no reason you should. let them have fun, let them enjoy it

[@huemungus5535]

This is something I still don't get. When did they start taking prize cards from the opposite deck. I'm pretty sure prize cards are supposed to come from your deck.

[@WoobyMe]

Not as far as I know. It should have always been from the other person's deck from launch I believe

[@ragepand4]

Yep, it's got to come from the opponent's deck. It's not much of a game "prize" if you just gave it to yourself. :)

[@huemungus5535]

@@ragepand4 not true an extra draw is an insane advantage in any tcg and an extra draw from your own deck would be a great reward.

[@Tksan97]

In the second game redstone to X wasn't an illegal move, it was a dumb one. You should clear that spot for him in an official match. So basically you cheated when removed the redstone from him, and attached the farm item. It the end it doesn't matter

[@joshmccarty8800]

I suddenly crave breakfast

[@toastedbread9752]

Am I stupid or do Hermits forget really often to play an Item card to power up?

[@antiisocial]

I have no idea what's going on. Lol.

[@RichardNixion357]

You need bows to balance hypno.

[@The_Daft_Monkey]

44:00

[@tiriosh16]

Iskall had double damaged against builder types

[@nastytaxi]

At 12:50 when Ren puts Doc in his place laughed so hard

[@weissxritter]

You mean when Ren needlessly got aggressive over being called out because he made a mistake and was acting like a child instead of adhering to the rules and taking it like a decent human being who can acknowledge and take responsibility for his own mistakes? Yeah, hilarious moment... I like watching these matches overall, but "I've been streaming for five hours," is no excuse for turning into a petulant child because someone points out that you're breaking the very clearly defined and established rules.

[@nastytaxi]

@@weissxritter I forgot how toxic the KZbin comment section is. I'm just remarking on how Doc is built up as this genius by him and his fans [which I'm a big Doc fan btw], but in this instance Ren (Known MTG player) definitely has more knowledge on this particular subject. I think that aspect is where the humor was derived for me personally. I think Doc did the correct thing by shutting up and not engaging. I also can't imagine what kind of toll being responsible for entertaining an audience of hundreds for hours on end is like. Maybe Ren overstepped and was frustrated. Maybe Doc feels a compulsion to be the smartest in the room. I feel like it's honestly an over reading of a tiny moment which is a curse of the modern age. Anyway, I thought the script flip was pretty funny in the moment, a fresh change of pace

[@Lemoniscake]

REN VS ETHO!!!

[@anoukrothoff6143]

You are first

[@Draug0]

You put a redstone on Xisuma, which is useless and locks you out of your secondary attack. He needs 2 farms and a blank and you already had the builder on for the blank. Oh I guess you took it off. Normally in trading card games, a card laid is a card played, so you might have been stuck with that in an official game.

[@CBDubz]

Ren, on your second game you shouldn’t have placed a hermit on your first yearn as you already had placed one in the pre match phase.

[@baserockbathead]

Love TCG but man that second game was hard to watch... had me yelling at the screen and now commenting..

[@ldgarius]

The solved game of Hermit TCG: This is an attrition game, very basic, no strategy, no decisions. You never tap a hermit to switch him for another one. you let him die, you get an extra attack to lower the other's hp. You just have to make your oponent "waste" as much damage as possible. E.g: a hermit has 70 attack, you have a 20 hp hermit, it will die, oponent wasted 50 damage. If you switch, those 70 damage go as full to your healthy hermit. Bad. It's just a maths game where given your cards and the energy you will kill X hermits in Y turns. Whoever has X the closest to 3 and Y the smallest, wins, that's it. Only attach energy to a hermit when you're the one attacking first with it, else you're putting yourself behind. So basically, never waste an attack, that's an extra 50-80 health you're giving your oponent, making him eliminate you easier and giving him the initiative. as per deckbuilding: The lame "good against X bad against Y" stats just makes this a metagame within you guys, but it's just better to go mono X. Chose your highest stat hermits, ignore anything else and put energy for them. Same goes for utility cards, their power should be compared to having an extra hermit or an extra energy card. Why bother with a card that does 20 damage when you can have a hermit tanking 300 hp and dealing 80 damage each turn. Go mono X, and if someone goes all in against you, they will also lose against the rest, so it's just a rock paper scissors. If this game was properly designed based on something like Magic the Gathering, and not pokemon, the difference in the colour pie gives the choice for going multiple colours over mono, sacrificing mana consistency for having other effects (card draw from blue, removal from black or white, etc).

[@bunta3434]

Hermit Faze Item Faze Effect Faze Attack Faze Draw/End Faze

[@karri-sebastiancalitu4306]

Pretty sure in any card game, you can still do anything after attacking, like hearthstone for example, I can attack first, then play any cards I want if I have the mana / time. As long as it's your turn, the order of attack / item should not matter at all. It's actually beneficial to wait sometimes even. Say you have a hermit who can rolls green does another attack, I would wait with my instant damage card until after that roll, if i win it, I save the damage item for the next hermit, if my attack is red and I only attack once, I play the insta damage item and kill the hermit this round. It open up strategy options. That's why it shouldn't matter, would give the game way more depth.

[@fdagpigj]

What's the purpose of the huge TCG logo at the bottom left corner? Is there something there that isn't suitable for youtube? If it's not blocking anything on purpose, it's just annoying.

[@sweetest-sweater]

it seems to me like it is blocking the in-game chat, i’m not sure why though.

[@fdagpigj]

@@sweetest-sweater I guess this is just stream footage (not the raw recording) so he wasn't able to remove it afterwards and it seems it was likely accidental as he got rid of it about halfway through the video.

[@theArhar]

110+20=140 brain is dead

[@bludymoon6031]

[@steffenaarsnes8066]

It's as if Ren doesn't follow the turn order on purpose just to quarrel, lol. Forget to place the item before the attack once, fine, forget it twice in a row because you're new to the game, awkward but ok, forget it every time in every match and each episode, and argue that it doesn't matter rather than just following the phases of the turn in order as intended by game design - come on dude, no one wants to have to deal with that nuisance.

[@TopkibblesTopKibbles]

💕💕😇

[@ryanwakefier]

The giant TCG map over the first half of the video feels like a water mark on a ripped video. Very distracting.

[@shashabogh7620]

waffle for seventy

[@anoukrothoff6143]

9th

[@anoukrothoff6143]

I actually was 10th wow that other guy probably beat me by a second lol